Re: [TruthTalk] In a Box

2003-06-07 Thread Dave
  Charles Perry Locke wrote: From: Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Charles Perry Locke wrote: As for the nature of the Godhead, it is a paradox which requires a resolution. LDS resolve it with multiple gods, Protestants resolve it with the Trinity Doctrine. Protestants do not use the

Re: [TruthTalk] Slithering

2003-06-07 Thread Charles Perry Locke
From: Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] DAVEH:  So far Perry, I'm only hearing it from three vocal people..you, Izzy and g.    (At least I did not perceive that DavidM was complaining too.)  I'm not sure how many TTers are subscribed, but I suspect three does not represent a majority. Would other

Re: [TruthTalk] Slithering

2003-06-07 Thread Terry Clifton
How 'bout we all step back and take a little different approach? Let's assume that we are wrong about why Dave H is on TT. Let's just say that we honestly do not know why he is on TT. Let's further assume that Dave H is not even sure why he is on TT. Then let us assume that he is on TT

RE: [TruthTalk] Gluttony Exercise

2003-06-07 Thread David Miller
Izzy wrote: How does one commit gluttony on only one meal/day? I don't know. That's what I was asking Gary. He seems to have a handle on this gluttony thing. I sure don't. Izzy wrote: It seems unlikely that in one meal you could consume more than your daily caloric needs. ( or by

[TruthTalk] Politics

2003-06-07 Thread ShieldsFamily
Terry, While in theory I would agree with you about Christian independents, I cannot for this reason: Every Democrat is a representative for the Dem Platform, which INCLUDES support for all those liars, thieves (via taxes), homos, and killers which you mentioned. Those same independents

RE: [TruthTalk] Slithering

2003-06-07 Thread ShieldsFamily
Oh, thanks Dave H, for making it perfectly clearNOW I GET IT! You are NOT trying to learn truth! Duh! This explains everything! (Excuse me for thinking otherwise!) Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Friday, June 06,

RE: [TruthTalk] Slithering

2003-06-07 Thread ShieldsFamily
Dave H, may I respectfully say that for you to think your posts make me uncomfortable is flattering yourself. Irritating, perhaps, but not uncomfortable. :-) That's why I just generally don't even read them. But sometimes I do when the subject seems interesting. Izzy -Original

RE: [TruthTalk] Prooftext

2003-06-07 Thread ShieldsFamily
Dave H, I too believe in free agency, and therefore would not try to pressure someone into my own beliefs. I know that without the inspiration of the Holy Spirit in their lives there is NOTHING I can do to influence anyone to seek after Jesus. I do NOT believe that we are all spiritual

RE: [TruthTalk] Prooftext

2003-06-07 Thread David Miller
DaveH wrote: Do you always go around thinking the worst of folks? Don't you think some people with smiles on their faces just may be reflecting that which is inside? Most of the time I take people at face value and think no ill of them. But through experience, I have found that most

[TruthTalk] Roots

2003-06-07 Thread ShieldsFamily
Perry, Welcome back into the fold! This rejoices my heart! However, it saddens me that you were so disillusioned as to leave in the first place. Are you finding any greater satisfaction now? Please explain, either way, if you don't mind. I hope you and your family have found a wonderful

RE: [TruthTalk] Slithering

2003-06-07 Thread ShieldsFamily
Terry, you are SO RIGHT about all that! J Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terry Clifton Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 7:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Slithering How 'bout we all step back and

RE: [TruthTalk] Gluttony Exercise

2003-06-07 Thread ShieldsFamily
David, Seems to me that gluttony is the sin of food idolatry. I doubt that is your problem. :-) You, my DH, and I are just getting older (don't tell!) and not living the active life of a farmer. I'm probably the most active of the 3 of us, and still need to augment with daily doggie walks. I draw

RE: [TruthTalk] Prooftext

2003-06-07 Thread ShieldsFamily
Dave H, FYI I have NEVER sent any of these emails!!! ROFL! Izzy, -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Miller I have been accused by some via private email of aiding and abetting you by giving you ammunition to use against other

RE: [TruthTalk] Gluttony Exercise

2003-06-07 Thread ShieldsFamily
Maybe g has a handle on it because he just spends his day exercising his body. I'm too busy for that! Balance, people, balance! Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Miller Izzy wrote: How does one commit gluttony on only one

[TruthTalk] Sports on the Sabbath ruling

2003-06-07 Thread ShieldsFamily
What do you sports fans think of this court ruling regarding the Sabbath? http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=32957 Izzy -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6)

Re: [TruthTalk] Gluttony Exercise

2003-06-07 Thread ttxpress
gluttony entails 'overweight'--vice versa; it means consuming more[calories--in this case] than is necessary.. (e.g.) if gluttony is a function of covetousness (why not?), partic in an environment where starvation is a reality, too--and the overfed/overeaters are 40% while another 40%

RE: [TruthTalk] Gluttony Exercise

2003-06-07 Thread David Miller
David Miller wrote: Hey Gary. Do you think a person can be overweight and yet not be guilty of gluttony? Gary wrote: gluttony entails 'overweight'--vice versa; it means consuming more [calories--in this case] than is necessary. So does that mean your answer is no? It sounds like you are

Re: [TruthTalk] Roots

2003-06-07 Thread Charles Perry Locke
From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] Perry, Welcome back into the fold! This rejoices my heart! However, it saddens me that you were so disillusioned as to leave in the first place. Are you finding any greater satisfaction now? Please explain, either way, if you don't mind. I hope you and your

Re: [TruthTalk] Politics

2003-06-07 Thread Terry Clifton
That is why I suggested that you at least look at those who have no party affiliation (independents). I voted for one for president in the last election. Seemed like a good idea to me, but the Lord had other ideas about who should run the country. I think He usually gives us about what we

Re: [TruthTalk] Gluttony Exercise

2003-06-07 Thread ttxpress
On Sat, 7 Jun 2003 11:26:51 -0400 "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David Miller wrote:your weight of 240 with 6'2" height would still be overweight [*OW].I don't agree with that if you were to pitch against me, DavidM, you wouldn't think i'm *OW:)--nopitchers i play bb with think

RE: [TruthTalk] Politics

2003-06-07 Thread ShieldsFamily
Again, Terry, I respectfully disagree. I do not believe that the Lord leads us to throw away our votes on hopeless candidates so the Democrats can win. Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terry Clifton Sent: Saturday, June 07,

RE: [TruthTalk] Gluttony Exercise

2003-06-07 Thread ShieldsFamily
g, you need to spend less time reading Mein Kampf and perfecting your body, and more time reading the Word and perfecting your righteousness. Iz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003

Re: [TruthTalk] Gluttony Exercise

2003-06-07 Thread ttxpress
you're callin' mea perfection-ist..and a Nazi-ist, too, I guess...what's next--that I'm a 'slitherin' Mormon? (ftr, not even DaveH ever called me one of them! rof) gary ottoson * http://ozg2003.blogspot.com On Sat, 7 Jun 2003 15:15:27 -0500 "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: g,

RE: [TruthTalk] Gluttony Exercise

2003-06-07 Thread ShieldsFamily
How about slitherin socialist/Marxist/fascist/commie? J Iz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 4:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Gluttony Exercise you're

Re: [TruthTalk] Gluttony Exercise

2003-06-07 Thread Dave
ShieldsFamily wrote: How about slitherin? socialist/Marxist/fascist/commie?J Iz you're callin'me a perfection-ist..and a Nazi-ist, too, I guess...what's next--that I'm a 'slitherin' Mormon? (ftr, not even DaveH ever called me one of them! rof>) DAVEH: I guess I didn't want to offend the

Re: [TruthTalk] Prooftext

2003-06-07 Thread Dave
  David Miller wrote:  I have been accused by some via private email of aiding and abetting you by giving you ammunition to use against other Protestants.  I guess they think you are some kind of secret intelligence agent for Mormons.  LOL. DAVEH:  ROTFLOL   From my LDS perspective, that is

Re: [TruthTalk] Prooftext

2003-06-07 Thread Dave
  ShieldsFamily wrote: Dave H,  I too believe in free agency, and therefore would not try to pressure someone into my own beliefs.  I know that without the inspiration of the Holy Spirit in their lives there is NOTHING I can do to influence anyone to seek after Jesus.  I do NOT believe

Re: [TruthTalk] Slithering

2003-06-07 Thread Dave
ShieldsFamily wrote: Oh, thanks Dave H, for making it perfectly clear?NOW I GET IT! DAVEH: I've got to ask, Izzy.Why did you not understand this from the first time I said I wasn't in TT to learn truth? Did you honestly think I didn't mean what I said? I really am tiring of others like

RE: [TruthTalk] Slithering

2003-06-07 Thread ShieldsFamily
Well, Dave, at least we finally learn you DO have a temper! (However, I forgive you if you forgive me for provoking you.) But I guess we will continue to disagree about whether mormons know the real Jesus, or a figment of J.Smiths imagination. Izzy -Original Message- From: