Re: [TruthTalk] Soul searching.

2004-03-17 Thread Dave
David Miller wrote: DaveH wrote: The soul is created at birth, when the spirit joins a physical/mortal body. This is interesting. Does this mean that Mormons do not believe that abortion is murder? Can you tell us the official Mormon position on abortion and

[TruthTalk] bibliolatry?

2004-03-17 Thread Judy Taylor
From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Vincent Fulton wrote:Scripture is part of God's word (the only partto which we have access) ... dm: No offense, but this statement indicates Bibliolatry to me. It meansthat the Bible has replaced the person of Jesus Christ. jt: Arn't you one of those

[TruthTalk] Lance, how far off is TOO far?

2004-03-17 Thread Judy Taylor
The answer to this is to realize that nobody is saved by philosophy ortheology. Your understanding has nothing directly to do with salvation, jt: I don't know where the above originated but it is only partially true. Philosophy and theology are distractions but understanding is everything.

Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] tough being a Christian

2004-03-17 Thread Judy Taylor
From: "Wm. Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Judy Taylor asks -Could it be an idol? I understand why DaveH, Blaine, Lance, Bill and John may not agree with me and that's OK;my understanding is that this is a forum where we exchangeideas and discussTruth. It's decent company,don't get me wrong. But

[TruthTalk] Lance, how far off is TOO far?

2004-03-17 Thread Judy Taylor
From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Perry wrote: ... I have always questioned how FAR one can be from the absolute truth, and still be "in the fold". For example, I consider the LDS to not be "in the fold" because their doctrine is so far off from that which is in the Bible. Now, the

[TruthTalk] Re:Judy Taylor (Theologiian Philosopher)

2004-03-17 Thread Lance Muir
Once youcommence speaking (typing) whether quoting scripture or commenting on the scripture you quote Judy you've become one of those you're criticizing. I'm not being caustic here but, you do see that don't you? Sorry Judy but you're one of us even through your very denunciation. Lance

[TruthTalk] Re:Polanyi, unemployed??Never!!

2004-03-17 Thread Lance Muir
He's sitting just over my right shoulder, he's in my walkman, my MP3 player and, he talkin' a blue streak. Lance - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: March 16, 2004 20:17 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Nothing "obtuse here" Amen

[TruthTalk] Tough being a Christian

2004-03-17 Thread Judy Taylor
From: "Wm. Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Beep, beep, coming through, What would you guys say tothe fool (gently now, I'm talking about myself) who says that it is not our theology (our biblical,doctrinal,and systematic beliefs) which save us; jt: I'd agree with the above statement. However,

[TruthTalk] Judy Taylor (Theologiian Philosopher)

2004-03-17 Thread Judy Taylor
From: "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Once youcommence speaking (typing) whether quoting scripture or commenting on the scripture you quote Judy you've become one of those you're criticizing. I'm not being caustic here but, you do see that don't you? Sorry Judy but you're one of us even

[TruthTalk] Re:One Liners..

2004-03-17 Thread Lance Muir
Throughout your correspondence at least that to which I've been privy you scandalize such as The Church Fathers, Theology Philosophy. Yet, while doing so you speak as a modern Church "Mother" and employ both of the latter disciplines without seeming to understand what they are. Take a

[TruthTalk] One Liners..

2004-03-17 Thread Judy Taylor
From: "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Throughout your correspondence at least that to which I've been privy you scandalize such as The Church Fathers, Theology Philosophy. jt:Calling something irrelevant so far as a walk with God is concerned is the same as National Enquirer type

Re: [TruthTalk] Tough being a Christian--MORE PRECISION IN HEADLINES OF POSTS

2004-03-17 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 3/17/2004 1:07:46 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kevin Deegan wrote: DAVEH: I don't think you've got that exactly right, but you are close enough that it works for the purpose of this discussion. From my perspective, the Lord reveals his will to his

Re: [TruthTalk] tough being a Christian

2004-03-17 Thread Terry Clifton
Dave wrote: Kevin Deegan wrote: New Age christianity says we must all be a bunch of sweet buttercups. Nobody should say anything negative! Don't be judgemental, DON'T you CORRECT me! That strikes me as ridiculous. I can just see Moses drawing the LINE in the sand and like the heretic in the

[TruthTalk] IMPRECICE HEADERS

2004-03-17 Thread Terry Clifton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/17/2004 1:07:46 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kevin Deegan wrote: DAVEH: I don't think you've got that exactly right, but you are close enough that it works for the purpose of this discussion.

Re: Re: [TruthTalk] tough being a Christian

2004-03-17 Thread Wm. Taylor
Judy wrote You, Lance, and John appear to be immersed ina mixture of philosophy and theology with some scripture and this combination seems to drawDavidM but is not what I am about. You make a lot of assumptions here. One might think we (the-three-of-us-and-David-sometimes) were joinedat

[TruthTalk] Re:William takes Judy to the woodshed

2004-03-17 Thread Lance Muir
AMEN BILL! At the time of this mailing I haven't read Judy's response but, why do I think that I and, perhaps others can anticipate both the content and tone forthcoming? PS-Judy: Bill's really offered you an Olive Branch in his communication so, why not accept it with thanks? Lance.From:

Re: [TruthTalk] Tough being a Christian--MORE PRECISION IN HEADLINES OF POSTS

2004-03-17 Thread Charles Perry Locke
Good point, Jim. I, too, have trouble following changing threads, especially when they split into two or more different topics, all with the same original Subject:! To expand on what Jim is saying, as a general rule it is a good idea to pay attention to the Subject: and, when the topic in a

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:William takes Judy to the woodshed--NEW HEADER POLICY

2004-03-17 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 3/17/2004 9:23:45 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Re:William takes Judy to the "woodshed" Date:3/17/2004 9:23:45 AM Eastern Standard Time From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent from the Internet AMEN BILL! At the

Re: [TruthTalk] The Last Days

2004-03-17 Thread Dave
Charles Perry Locke wrote: From: Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Last Days Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 22:32:37 -0800 Charles Perry Locke wrote: The RCC needed

[TruthTalk] Re:THE LAST DAYS

2004-03-17 Thread Lance Muir
These are those days past, present and future since the Son ascended to the right hand of the Father. Attempts to make connections between verses (any) and events (any)illustrate why "we" are so many in number (26,000 counting). Lance - Original Message - From: Dave To:

[TruthTalk] Response from the Woodshed...

2004-03-17 Thread Judy Taylor
From: "Wm. Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Judy wrote You, Lance, and John appear to be immersed ina mixture of philosophy and theology with some scripture and this combination seems to drawDavidM but is not what I am about. You make a lot of assumptions here. One might think we

[TruthTalk] Re:Jim exalts Lance.the web awash with rumours of new cult

2004-03-17 Thread Lance Muir
Thanks, Lance - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: March 17, 2004 10:24 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:William takes Judy to the "woodshed"--NEW HEADER POLICY In a message dated 3/17/2004 9:23:45 AM Eastern Standard Time,

[TruthTalk] Lance reinforces William taking Judy to the woodshed

2004-03-17 Thread Judy Taylor
From: "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] AMEN BILL! At the time of this mailing I haven't read Judy's response but, why do I think that I and, perhaps others can anticipate both the content and tone forthcoming? jt: Probably because you're so smart Lance... PS-Judy: Bill's really offered

[TruthTalk] Patrick's DAY

2004-03-17 Thread Chris Barr
- Original Message - From: servant of YHVH Sent: 03/17/2004 10:57 AM Subject: Patrick's "DAY" \o/ !HALALU Yah! \o/ Greetings in the Matchless Name of YahShua [that's the name Jesus was called by His mom, dad, brothers, sisters, disciples and others who loved Him] :) !! I

[TruthTalk] Re:CHRIS BARR SERVES GREEN ON ST PADDY'S

2004-03-17 Thread Lance Muir
Great Meal, Chris. Thanks, Lance - Original Message - From: Chris Barr To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: March 17, 2004 12:02 Subject: [TruthTalk] Patrick's "DAY" - Original Message - From: servant of YHVH Sent: 03/17/2004 10:57 AM Subject:

[TruthTalk] Re:Benicio del Toro models 21 Grams Performance after Judy

2004-03-17 Thread Lance Muir
Oscar nominated BdToro appears to be a silent watcher of this site. Lighten up, Judy! Blessings, Lance - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: March 17, 2004 11:24 Subject: [TruthTalk] Lance reinforces William taking Judy to the

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:CHRIS BARR SERVES GREEN ON ST PADDY'S

2004-03-17 Thread Kevin Deegan
How many other oneness people do we have out there? How many others do not believe in the trinity? Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great Meal, Chris. Thanks, Lance - Original Message - From: Chris Barr To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: March 17, 2004 12:02 Subject: [TruthTalk]

[TruthTalk] Re:CHRIS READS KEVIN REPENTS CHANGES SCRIPT

2004-03-17 Thread Lance Muir
Ya think? Oh and his TRINITARIAN views. Lance - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: March 17, 2004 14:24 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Patrick's "DAY" CB says Oh, and back to the shamrock and trinity thing ... Patrick was

[TruthTalk] Re:WILL THE REAL JESUS PLEASE STAND UP

2004-03-17 Thread Lance Muir
Michael the archangel? The Spirit brother of Lucifer? A different manifestation of the One God? These and other "understandings" are proferred by groups on the periphory of Orthodox Christianity. While wanting to stop short of hyperbole, I'd suggest that nothing and no oneis more worthy of

[TruthTalk] Real Missionaries give the ultimate for the lost

2004-03-17 Thread Kevin Deegan
We talked a while ago about RM's (Returned Missionaries)being failures. I was wondering how many LDS missionaries do their 2 year stintin Muslim countries like Iraq? 4 Dead 1 in critical condition. Notice that they were not on a 2 year "mission" they were real missionaries.

Re: [TruthTalk] Lance SUCKERED by RCC

2004-03-17 Thread Chris Barr
\o/ !HALALU Yah! \o/ Greetings in the Matchless Name of YahShua [that's the name Jesus was called by His mom, dad, brothers, sisters, disciples and others who loved Him] :) !! A biography FROM THE LATIN?!?!?!? The RCC couldn't make ANY inroads in Ireland for centuries. The clean-food

Re: [TruthTalk] Lance AGAIN SUCKERED by the RCC

2004-03-17 Thread Chris Barr
\o/ !HALALU Yah! \o/ Greetings in the Matchless Name of YahShua [that's the name Jesus was called by His mom, dad, brothers, sisters, disciples and others who loved Him] :) !! WWJD? Well, for starters, he would use His own Name: YahShuaas inYahthe Everlasting Father (Isaiah 9:6, John

[TruthTalk] Re:PATRICK SPEAKS ENGLISH

2004-03-17 Thread Lance Muir
The truth of the Trinitarian nature of God does not stand or fall with PAT. However, one doesn't have to read his own position on this in Latin. See "The Confession of Saint Patrick" Vintage 1998 Translated by John Skinner You should only read this Chris, if you want toknow the "real deal".

[TruthTalk] [Fwd: SAINT PATRICK'S DAY]

2004-03-17 Thread Terry Clifton
---BeginMessage--- SAINT PATRICK'S DAY Patrick the sinner, an unlearned man to be sure. None should ever say that it was my ignorance that accomplished any small thing, it was the gift of God. --Patrick, Bishop of Armagh, Missionary, Patron of Ireland, c.460. Prior to his death, Saint

[TruthTalk] Hot off the presses ...

2004-03-17 Thread Chris Barr
Just out in today's paper ... NATURALLY Speaking By Christopher C. Barr Public interest or private interest? The FDA is all over the news with its idea to fight against obesity by asking manufacturers to change their labels. "Oh, please Mr. Food Processor, would you change your labels?

Re: [TruthTalk] Lance from bad to worse

2004-03-17 Thread Chris Barr
\o/ !HALALU Yah! \o/ Greetings in the Matchless Name of YahShua [that's the name Jesus was called by His mom, dad, brothers, sisters, disciples and others who loved Him] :) !! A biography FROM ENGLISH NOW?!?!?!? You sound like one of those "If the KJV was good enough for Paul and

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Language-Including The Bible

2004-03-17 Thread Blaine Borrowman
Blaine: Good point, Judy. - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 2:37 PM Subject: [TruthTalk] Re:Language-Including "The Bible" From: "Wm. Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] jt wrote If they were kept in

Re: [TruthTalk] Pearls before swine?

2004-03-17 Thread Blaine Borrowman
Blaine: Ye!! Veeery interesting! Let me know if you remember where to see more info. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 4:13 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Pearls before swine? In a

Re: [TruthTalk] The Last Days

2004-03-17 Thread Blaine Borrowman
JS = Joseph Smith?? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 2:53 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Last Days In a message dated 3/10/2004 12:01:14 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [TruthTalk] Old hebrew Coins found in Kentucky?

2004-03-17 Thread Blaine Borrowman
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 5:31 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Old hebrew Coins found in Kentucky? In a message dated 3/10/2004 4:23:12 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[TruthTalk] Perry wrote:

2004-03-17 Thread Blaine Borrowman
Perry wrote:DavidM, would you go to the BoM to learn about Jesus? No, you would go there to learn about the heresies of the Mormons. Blaine: Care to discuss some specific heresies from the BoM Perry?

Re: [TruthTalk] Old hebrew Coins found in Kentucky?

2004-03-17 Thread Blaine Borrowman
Are you confusing Oliver Cowdery with Sidney Rigdon? Oliver was a school teacher first, later an attorney. Sidney was , as indicated, a minister. Blaine - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 7:28 PM

Re: [TruthTalk] DNA Evidence Discourages Mormons

2004-03-17 Thread Blaine Borrowman
Blaine: I am not much of a scholar, Kevin old buddy, but you seem to have a limited understandingof verymuchbeyondyour favorite verses. You seem to speak most often from the Traditional Christian point of view rather than from actual scripture. From: Kevin Deegan To: [EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] Old hebrew Coins found in Kentucky?

2004-03-17 Thread Blaine Borrowman
Blaine: Not so fast, Kevin, I was not necessarily making that argument. And your comparison with Muslims is off, too. Mormons are Christians, so the only fair comparison is with other Christians. But my question, is, Why are you so defensive/offensive about this religion? You really get