Sounds to me that rather than teaching them the truth you teach racial
bigotry. It appears to mirror Izzy's 'tell the blacks and Indians to get
over it' opinion. I wonder if she applies this theory to the Jews (or
anyone that is disenfranchized) as well. I would suggest reading Howard
Zinn's 'A
David,
The category mistake you are making is comparing an equation (as in
something that is equal to) to a similarity. A metaphor/simile/analogy
illustrate relations, not equivalence. In other words one can only take
the metaphor so far until it breaks. When you use the marriage covenant
to
David,
Any chance you would consider removing the Peace be with you from your
signature? Most of your posts do not seem to be attempts at peace but
rather division (see almost every post addressed to Smithson). I cringe
every time I get to the bottom of one of your posts. I admit that I am
one
In the past we have discussed what happens when Jesus
Christ became man. I believe this to be an important topic asAdvent
approaches (the usual time we celebrate the incarnation). There are few
topics that are more worth considering than what happens to humanity when Jesus
takes it upon
Hi Izzy. Flesh in this context means the entire
body. Flesh used in a Pauline sense is that which is not oriented towards
God. Conversely spirit (little 's') is that which is oriented towards
God. Both encompany the entire human or as the Hebraic mindset puts it:
the body animated. Even
Hi Izzy,
I came across this article because the author is a Karl Barth scholar. {I am
fascinated/obsessesed with/by Karl Barth}
The article describes better than I ever could the ramifications of patriotism
and how a Christian may want to respond.
TRAPPED IN THE FLAG?
While globalisation
Izzy,
Please begin to read carefully. The article I posted
was not written by Karl Barth. It was written by a Karl Barth
scholar. I came across the article because of a course the author teaches
at Oxford on Barth. The article itself has nothing to do with Barth at
all. Any confusion
Hi Izzy,
I want to clarify your point here.
Izzy states, I am trying to deal
with spiritual principles; not personalities. What if thinking evil of another
brings evil upon you? Is that possible? Izzy
Jonathan asks the following as clarification: If
thinking evil of another brings evil
The new FireFox browser is very nice. I love how one
can open new windows as tabs.
www.firefox.com
Jonathan Hughes
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Welcome back Izzy. Although us wacky Canadians have
already had our Thanksgiving I shall be thankful this weekend for
you.
Jonathan
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I read this thread and attempt to find out why you (David) or so opposed
to the realization that Abraham and King David both sinned. You seem to
want to do almost anything to prove your interpretation. Me thinks you
doth protest too much. Never have I seen anyone attempt to explain away
Hi David,
As textually violent as I find some of your posts I must make it clear
that at times you bring an apprehension of what others are attempting to
say that is noteworthy. You do this below in your way of asking for
clarification. I like it.
Jonathan Hughes
Judy wrote:
I don't
Hi Izzy,
As you have taken the time to create discussion on this
topic you are deserving of a response. This is the kind of thing I want to
see from you. Thank you. I am at work right now and may get a chance
in my break this afternoon to sketch out something more complete but from
looking
Hi Izzy,
Hope this helps:
Wikipedia defines the TOE as: A theory of everything (TOE) is a theory
of theoretical physics and mathematics that fully explains
and links together all known physical phenomena (i.e.
"everything").
This is a scientific construct designed to encapsulate all
of
Hi Izzy,
Just so you aren't holding your breath I will not be
outlining each post where you have failed to see how you are not participating
in edification or evencontributing in a meaningful way to the forum.
When there is an elephant in the room either you can see it (as a few of us have
Terry,
I doubt calling someone's apprehension of the unilateral
covenant (Read gospel and therefore read Jesus Christ. We do not divide
God's action from God's being.)a pile of dogshit or a man-made story would
be the reason the Lord has placed you on this forum. You may find that the
Lord
This could be a good time
tomake a few random comments onrepentance. A few days ago
Terry asked John why the outline of parts of his faith didn't include the word
repentance. Most people on this forum believe that repentance is necessary
for salvation; they see it as a necessary step or
A quick aside to the listing of the Levitical Laws: Are the following
commands by God considered part of the Levetical Law or God's moral law?
I get a bit confused as some of the laws I consider to be moral are
included in what is often called the ceremonial list.
1) Be fruitful and mulitply
2)
Hi David,
You mention below that God says that David was right in everything
except the matter of Uriah. How do you understand the passage in 1
Chronicles 21:1-30 (parallelled in 2 Samuel 24:1-25) regarding David's
sin of numbering the people? How do you incorporate this 'sin' with the
matter
Izzy,
The post before yours accusing Lance of 'interrupting the conversation
between others just to be negative' contains three references to the
name 'Lance'. Lance did not interrupt. He was addressing a post that
had a lot to do with him.
Secondly, was Lance being negative? The post he was
Last night I took my two and a half year old son Noah
to his first swimming lesson. Noah isn't really afraid of water as much as
he is afraid to spend time with someone other than his mother. Last night
was daddy time. He didn't have his nap during the day and was mildly
cranky by the time
Hi David,
A few (ok, seven) things to consider:
1) Lance typed up the Karl Barth quote as an addendum to the post he
wrote before it. It was not offerred up on its own although I can see
why it could be construed that way. Lance attempted to make it clear
that it belonged with his earlier
Hi David,
Thank you for the compliment. I wrote this piece this morning while the
event was still fresh in my mind. A dream of mine is to be published.
Now if I could just get him toilet-trained!
Jonathan Hughes
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Hi Judy, for once I am actually in agreement with you
here. But I am left confused. On one hand you point to Christ as the
fulfillment of the law, that we do not have the law plus Jesus. >From past
posts of yourswhich seemed to place primacy on the law and types I would
have thought you
Allow me to try to draw this out a bit further here. A picture would say
it better but my drawing skills are quite suspect.
Creation -- The Fall -- Law -- Failure to uphold the law -- Grace
enters in Jesus Christ
The usual method of thinking about this is to follow the word picture
above.
Some quotes that may contribute to this discussion:
The wrath of Jahweh is not a principle of judgment which places God
over and against the world, but being in act is also being in
fellowship and this is what kindles the strife; the battle of God for
his people necessarily involves his struggle
Well it seems to be a quiet TruthTalk day. Last week
we had a few discussions about whether God has chosen the President. The
following is taken from November 4th's Hannity and Colmes show on FOX (I do not
get the channel in Canada but make a point of reading the scripts when time
permits).
When Lance posted this he thought that Izzy would jump on
it thinking how wonderful it was considering howmuch she was enjoying one
of Willard's other books. There was no intent to bait her at all. In
actual fact it was an attempt to meet Izzy on an even ground. Why do you
enjoy jumping on
Lance and I talk2 to3 times a day. I
believe I can fairly state what he was thinking when he posted that quote to
you. However, he is a rascally wabbit.
Those who are quick to judge others on this forum include
every single member. Not a day goes by without some judging going
on. The
As it was a rather long quote I would claim that it was not
taken out of context. However it raises an important point for the members
of TruthTalk. We are all, including me, guilty of taking each post on
TruthTalk as a summation of that person's gospel. In reality it is but a
small portion
Oh one other thing. I have read 'In Search of
Guidance' and 'Spirit of the Disciplines.' I have not read 'The Divine
Conspiracy.' I have dipped into it before but not been through it
completely. I began it last night. I will update you on the Gospel
of the Right versus the Gospel on the
Thank you David. I agree, except for the fact that I often am a bit too
much of an ass.
Jonathan Hughes
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I heartily endorse Izzy's recommendation. Dallas
Willard is well worth reading and digesting.
Jonathan Hughes
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Divine
To make it clear: A vote for Kerry would have been a compromise vote as well. There
was no perfect candidate. You are correct that under Bush it is far more possible
that a prolife stance judge will be elected.
I would enjoy a discussion on pacifism. I wonder if it is possible to do it from
Welcome Slade the Moderator! Hopefully we will never need moderating :)
David, I hope this does not mean you will fade into the ether again.
Please stick around if at all possible. The same is to be said for
Perry.
Jonathan Hughes
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No I do not.
Jonathan
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Jonathan wrote:
I feel that America
Hi Judy,
I would agree that Buzzflash needs to be taken with a grain
or two of salt. My advice for that site is to avoid the editorials done by
the Buzzflash staff. Rather, just follow links to outside newspapers and
sources. This tends to limit the extreme liberal bias. My second
piece of
Hi Perry,
Your assessment makes sense but does not really address the article
itself. In reality, abortion under Bush has increased instead of
decreased. This is not just due to economic factors but from the
policies or blocked policies put through by the White House. Bush may
be against
Judy, what you write on this forum is anything but
balanced. However, what you say is important and it invites forum
attendees to draw their own conclusions. This is exactly why Bush's Brain
is an important film.
Jonathan Hughes
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Izzy, if all you have to offer is put downs why do you
continue to be part of this forum? Does it fulfill your need to take out
your anger?
Jonathan Hughes
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It does take arocket scientistto see that you
are no better than Arafat and to realize that God loves each of
you.
Jonathan Hughes
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Israel is just as much a terrorist nation as Palestine (who
lack nationhood). When one agrees with terrorism one calls it just
war.
Jonathan Hughes
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Critique and mudslinging are two different things.
What I do is critique, what you do is mudslinging. One involves love, the
other anger. The amount of posts that I write on subjects other than Bush
far outweigh those that are directed towards him. George Bush, the
Christian, is not above
Izzy, do you actually believe that the left is completely
bereft of truth? That the right holds a monopoly on all that is
right?
Jonathan Hughes Supervisor of Application Support Kingsway Financial 905-629-7888
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Jonathan, do you actually believe that the right is
completely bereft of truth?
Jonathan responds: Absolutely
not! Please see my post to Judy about reading both
sides.
Jonathan, do you think that the right holds a monopoly on
all that is right?
Jonathan responds: Not a
chance. Both
Here is a good example of what I wrote to Judy this
morning. Here we have two sides with obviously different agendas.
When one examines the facts in this particular case the left has a point.
The right also has a valid point. This is how analysis of what is
happening needs to be done. We
.
Apparently he has removed all mention of this from his
speeches and his website as of now, but it was his
sole focus for the past few days. Go
figure. 1971 deja vu ...
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Here is a good example of wh
Hi Izzy,
Being month-end at my place of employment and with critical
financial issues flying left and right I have not been able to give you a worthy
response.
In a nut-shell I do believe the words of Psalm 11.
However, and this is a big however, I do not think that Psalm 11 speaks
*Jonathan snickers softly*
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To the uninitiated:'Very well put' when spoken by
Judy translates into:Someone
In
blue below.
Jonathan Hughes
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Arafat is Dying
In a message dated 10/28/2004 1:16:50 PM Central Daylight Time,
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Here is a sermon by a
person I highly respect (Victor Shepherd) on the subject of defining sin.
Enjoy.
Crucial Words in the Christian
Vocabulary: Sin (3)
Genesis
3:1-7 Romans
1:28-30 Ephesians
2:1-10 Mark
7:14 -23
Some people enjoy restoring antique
automobiles. Some people enjoy
Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we.They never
stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and
neither do we.
-George W Bush
Come on I am sure you all have a few.
Others I enjoy:
If you don't stand for anything, you don't stand for anything!
A
Hi Judy,
Articles like this are interesting. Why not supply a comment of your own or set up a
discussion question?
Also are you aware of the political agenda of David Horowitz's site
www.frontpagemag.com? If so, can you see how that agenda seeps into the article?
Jonathan
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Lance,
The Bible is only a problem for liberals and non-Christians
(termed losers) like you, John and myself. For people like Judy the Bible
is not a problem at all. Judy has the Holy Spirit who has given
herperfect understanding of the text. She then comes onto TT and
tells us what the
Judy:I know you don't like for me
to say this and you and Gary areunmerciful in yoursarcasm and
ridicule... .Jonathan: You whine more than a pig in heat. You
give out just as much sarcasm and ridicule as you take. You are no better
than Gary, John, Lance, or
myself.
This e-mail and any
Refusing to take your own advice is not a good character
trait as well. Lets make a deal Izzy. Next time you go on vacation,
actually vacate.
Jonathan Hughes
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Let us hope it is soon.
JBH
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Theory of Sin
Hughes Jonathan wrote:
I can mold the Bible to say
like the kind that comes from a circumcized
heart One that loves God, others, and self.
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'you give as good as you get. The rest is unkind overkill.
From:
In a blatant attempt at humour this afternoon have a
gander at the following article from today's online satirical magazine The
Onion. Judy and Izzy will enjoy this one. I thought it to be very
funny. I took out the pictures to make is smaller.
JBH
Kerry: Stem-Cell Research May Hold Cure
Actually the law brought in consciousness of sin, not birth
itself. We needed the law to show that we were transgressing
something. Birth only transfers the ability to sin on to future
generations. You are not a sinner because Adam sinned. That is the
Roman Catholic view of original sin.
Ah Terry if it was only so simple.
Of course Christ could be tempted. The bible clearly shows it not only
occurring but says that He was tempted in all ways just as we are. You
are correct in that God wants fellowship with men (and women too). You
are incorrect that practicing sinners are
The appropriate response should have
been:
Jonathan, you are right. I am sorry for putting you
in the 'liberal' Christian category. Yes you did use scripture. You
did support your claim. The problem really does lie in myself. I am
very ashamed to admit this. I intentionally did not quote
David, this is marvelous. Of course whenever the heretic Jonathan
compliments you get wary! I was going to do something just like you
have done to illustrate the biblical material on how Jesus Christ had a
human nature just like you and I: a sinful nature. Jesus of course
while having the
For the record I am in agreement here. Christ is the eternal Son of His
Father. The promise that rests in Him were available to Abraham,
Zachariah and Elizabeth. God's promise of adoption was present before
the foundation of the world.
Jonathan Hughes
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Congrats Izzy. Children are precious.
Jonathan Hughes
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BTW, We are celebrating
Judith,
You are correct in that we need to remember balance and
context. Let me lay it out for you. Jeff was the one who quoted John
1.1 and set up the direct comparison of Jesus = Torah.
Jeff: "In the beginninjg was the WORD,,
and the WORD was with God and the WORD was
God." The WORD my
Hi Laura,
Let me rephrase some of
this. Torah can be compared to logos in the sense that logos means word
(lowercase w meaning scripture). Torah cannot be compared to Logos in the
sense of John 1.1 where Logos means Word (uppercase w meaning a Person).
When you quote a verse from the NT it
?
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Torah can be compared
to logos in the sense that logos means word (lowercase w meaning
scripture). Torah cannot be compared to Logos in the sense of John 1.1
where Logos means Word (uppercase w meanin
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Ok a little debunking for ya now.
Context:
18A certain
ruler asked him, "Good teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?"
19"Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is
good--except God alone. 20You know the commandments: 'Do not commit
adultery, do not murder, do not
Hi David,
Tempting, but perhaps we should concentrate on the threads already
started before we move to this issue.
Jonathan Hughes
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Ok a little debunking for ya now.
Context:
18A certain
ruler asked him, "Good teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?"
19"Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is
good--except God
Terry I am putting this up on my fridge :)
Of course I will go back to my error-ridden ways
promptly.
Jonathan Hughes
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Another post!!! Wow. I hope this means that you are back. We need you
on this forum.
www.factcheck.org is not applying liberal spin David. IT is misleading
of you to say so. It hits Kerry just as hard as it hits Bush. It is a
bipartisan site that even Dick Cheney suggests that people use. I
Aye that was classic.
Jonathan Hughes
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4th Commandment
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This would be a great discussion to have. I started this with you David
the day before you left the forum for other priorities. This was when I
'outed' you as a person who believes sin is a legal issue, not an
organic issue.
Defining sin in legal terms instead of relational terms will lead
,
the other side believes Jesus would come to adopt us (Ephesians 1) regardless of
whether sin is present or not.
Jonathan Hughes
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Oh how I have missed the old David Miller debating tactics. Ask a
question - get some sort of agreement on something considered common
sense - and then whammo, come in for the crushing blow. I had hoped you
would have progressed beyond these tactics. Oh there I go thinking the
worst of people
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Hughes Jonathan wrote:
This would be a great discussion to have. I started this with you
David the day before you left
Ok here is another futile attempt at getting people to take
a look at the character of George Bush. This is for all members of TT but
I would especially like to see replies from the 'moralists' on this list - Judy,
Izzy and Terry.
BUSH MISLEADS ON TAX CUTS
At Thursday's debate President
When the day of Pentecost had fully come, they were
all with one accord in one place.(Acts
2:1) It does happen.Terry
Does
this mean Honda's are in the Bible?
Jonathan Hughes
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Izzy and Judy,
I would appreciate if you would respond to this in a
clear and coherent way. The article below describes how Bush and his
administration have intentionally taken words by Kerry to mean something
completely different than they actually are. I consider this a case of
President
Unfortunately Judy did not include the article that was sent by her
friend. For those wondering what this email refers to I have included
the article below.
By David H. Hackworth
Recently, when John Kerry brought up the possibility of a return to the
draft, SecDef Donald Rumsfeld
John writes: Perhaps I should
explain my view of a legalist -- it is one who imposes his/her rules on
others as a basis for continued fellowship or in a judgment as to whether one is
a believer or not.
Jonathan writes: I just looked Linda up in the dictionary and voila
the exact same
Hi Terry. I don't think you read closely
enough. Note that what is quoted below is not my message. It is what
I am saying that the group of Judy, Izzy and yourself are saying. I gather
that I was bang on. I personally agree only with the last sentence.
I do not agree with the first or
This would be the same Izzy that calls people losers and pathetic
degenerates? Did Lance do any name calling? Of course not.
Hypocrite!
Jonathan
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Quite possible one of the best posts you have ever done
John. Thank you. Let us continue to fix our eyes on Jesus the author
and finisher of our faith.
Jonathan Hughes
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Ok I promise that this is the last article from this site
(www.newswithviews.com) but this one
is quite interesting. Again the subject is why one should vote for the
Constitutional Party instead of Republican or Democrat. Here is a person
that holds that to vote Demo or Repub is a wasteof a
Hi Michael,
Not that John needs me to defend him in any way but you are
constructing your theology from one experience Jesus had with his
disciples. I would suggest you re-read the story and ask yourself if the
story is really about Jesus dissolving storms or if perhaps the story is
1) No verse speaks for itself. They all involve
context and require interpretation. John is not throwing the verse out of
his bible. John is claiming that you are mis-interpreting (intentionally)
the verse.
2) Christ does not hold the covenant. Christ is
the fulfillment of the covenant.
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1) No verse speaks for itself. They all involve context and require
My my how the chickens cluck when our sacred cow is tipped. Did I
advise people to not read Henry Wright? Of course not. Sounds an awful
lot like a cult when one is not allowed to critique his teachings. I
advised TTer's that they have a bit of background to see how he and you
do your
No this is part of the if you want to have a discussion then at least
come to the table prepared instead of broad generalizations (all
liberals are bad), name calling (losers) and your most recent effort of
just plain saying that I was no longer saved. Note I have never
labelled conservatives
Hi Terry,
Thank you for asking for clarification. Let me know
if what I say next does not make sense and I will attempt to be clearer. I
appreciate any time I can work on articulating my beliefs.
1) Always remember the unassumed is the
unhealed:I believe that Christ Whoinhabited a human
I agree that Clinton was a better 'president'. He was
far more fiscally responsible and has far less blood on his hands than Bush
does. He was far from perfect of course. He was morally bankrupt in
the sexual realm. That being said he is no more morally bankrupt than
every single person on
Jonathan as JH.
Jonathan Hughes
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Lance writes:
Bill Clinton was a 'better'
Jonathan as JH.
Jonathan Hughes
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I agree that Clinton was a better
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On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 21:37:50 -0400 Jonathan Hughes
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Lance writes:
Bill Clinton was a 'better'
To help everyone gear up for tomorrow nights debate here is
an interesting article on teh flip flops Bush has done. Kerry has been
accused backwards and forwards of being a flip flopper and it will most likely
be mentioned a few times in the debates.
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