Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-04 Thread Judy Taylor
Excuse me Gary... It is in the NT. In fact Jesus Himself said that unless one is born again they can not even see the KOG much less be part of it... or haven't you read this part of the Bible yet? On Sat, 3 Dec 2005 22:46:14 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: myth (this ain't in the NT;

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-04 Thread Judy Taylor
e-From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 14:44:20 -0800 (PST)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth) I am speaking as a pastor

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-04 Thread Kevin Deegan
and its oneobviousreaosn why there's an ACLU LOL Now that is funny! To SAVE US from the New Birth![EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: myth (this ain't in the NT; its the fount ofAm Fundamentalist culticlegalism--its how legalism works to maintain partic racist exclusivity..its why evangelism in

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-04 Thread knpraise
please. jd-Original Message-From: Judy Taylor < SPAN class=correction id="">jandgtaylor1@juno.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 04:09:26 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-04 Thread Judy Taylor
From: Judy Taylor SPAN class=correction id=""jandgtaylor1@juno.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 04:09:26 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth) Wha

RE: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-04 Thread ShieldsFamily
again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth) myth (this ain't in the NT; its the fount ofAm Fundamentalist culticlegalism--its how legalism works to maintain partic racist exclusivity..its why evangelism in Fundamentalism equates to church s/hopping..and its oneobviousreaosn why there's

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-04 Thread ttxpress
conservative constraint constrains comprehension, callit constriction On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 04:07:46 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: unless one is born again they can not even see the KOG --new birth of the Spirit..[is] required..[to] have fellowship with others in the body

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-04 Thread ttxpress
..like a bull snake on a fat cat, ablack belt on th' butter ball'sbaloney On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 13:23:01 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: conservative constraint constrains comprehension, callit constriction On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 04:07:46 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-04 Thread ttxpress
..just thinkin' howJCs word of Wisdom nourishes the soul (even of the strangled and stranded:) On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 13:37:31 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..like a bull snake on a fat cat, ablack belt on th' butter ball'sbaloney On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 13:23:01 -0700 [EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-04 Thread knpraise
:-)-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 13:23:01 -0700Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth) conservative constraint constrains comprehension, callit constriction On Sun, 4 Dec

[TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-03 Thread Lance Muir
This man served our Lord faithfully throughout his life as did John Calvin. To take note of these truly shallow, petulant, and uniformed caricatures is reprehensible. What 'spirit' inhabits such an one as this? Take care Judy" - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To:

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-03 Thread Judy Taylor
I am not in any position to judge Barf's personal life and neither are you Lance. Calvins' was a bit more public. And didn't you write the following "I've met the 'Huntmeister' and, we spoke. He's big into this 'end times' drivel. . " Talk about the pot calling the kettle black, isn't the

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-03 Thread Judy Taylor
Oh Lance, I forgot to mention that I can not take credit for your descriptive subject line It is an original Kevinism (if I remember correctly) but after perusing some of the subject's theological ideas I found it appropriate. Remember ad hom is against the person. I don't know the man; my

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-03 Thread knpraise
al Message-From: Judy Taylor jandgtaylor1@juno.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 07:46:22 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth) I am not in any position to judge Barf's per

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-03 Thread Judy Taylor
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 07:46:22 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth) I am not in any position to judge Barf's personal life and neither are you Lance. Calvins' was a bit more public. And

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-03 Thread knpraise
" (Webster's Encyclopedic Dictionary.) -Original Message-From: Judy Taylor jandgtaylor1@juno.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 07:53:12 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-03 Thread knpraise
1@juno.com To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 11:10:40 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth) I know he would not pledge allegiance to Hitler which is noteworthy but the very fact thatHitler and

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-03 Thread Judy Taylor
On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 11:35:48 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Frankly, the most ridiculous criticism of Barth I have ever seen. An absolutely laughable commentary. It's a short note and hardly a commentary but have a good laugh on me ... Barth's regard for the

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-03 Thread knpraise
-Original Message-From: Judy Taylor jandgtaylor1@juno.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 11:45:39 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth) On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 11:35:48 -0500

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-03 Thread Charles Perry Locke
@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth) Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 11:12:22 -0500 Total chunky style barnyard. By the same logic, I can call you Jezebel Taylor and Kevin Dunce Deegan and and so on. And ad hom has

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-03 Thread knpraise
e.PerryFrom: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 11:12:22 -0500Total chunky style barnyard. By the same logic, I can call you Jezebel Taylor and Kevi

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-03 Thread Judy Taylor
reference I was surprised to find that it is, in some types of arguments, regarded as an effective argument...and that was exclusively in political debate.PerryFrom: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-03 Thread knpraise
see my comments below. -Original Message-From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 15:06:27 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth) On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 14

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-03 Thread Kevin Deegan
and the concerns he dealt with in his battle against liberal theologies (among otherconsiderations.) -Original Message-From: Judy Taylor jandgtaylor1@juno.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 07:46:22 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-03 Thread Judy Taylor
rns he dealt with in his battle against liberal theologies (among otherconsiderations.) -Original Message-From: Judy Taylor jandgtaylor1@juno.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 07:46:22 -0500Subject: Re: [

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-03 Thread Kevin Deegan
ripture and places his opinion above holy writ. -Original Message- From: Judy Taylor jandgtaylor1@juno.com To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 11:10:40 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-03 Thread Kevin Deegan
d written word (CD I, 2, 528-529).[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:-Original Message-From: Judy Taylor jandgtaylor1@juno.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 11:45:39 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-03 Thread Kevin Deegan
ee my comments below. -Original Message-From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 15:06:27 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 1

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-03 Thread Kevin Deegan
beral theologies (among otherconsiderations.) -Original Message-From: Judy Taylor jandgtaylor1@juno.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 07:46:22 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-03 Thread Charles Perry Locke
@mail.innglory.org To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth) Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 14:54:27 -0500 Comments concerning Webster are correct, I am sure. But I included the only definition Webster entertains in the referenced

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-03 Thread Kevin Deegan
Perry Locke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 10:36:14 -0800Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)John, there are many dimensions to the ad-hominem argument on which Webster's does not elaborate. In fact

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-03 Thread knpraise
BARTH. -Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 14:44:20 -0800 (PST)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth) I am speaking as a pastor. I do agree that such conduct

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-03 Thread knpraise
both a contradiction to your shallow claim thatyou do not judge Barth and a clear statement to the fact that you know nothing of what this man believes and the concerns he dealt with in his battle against liberal theologies (among otherconsiderations.) -Original Message-From: Judy Taylor jandgtaylor1@

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-03 Thread Kevin Deegan
purpose? TO WIN AN ARGUMENT ABOUT BARTH.-Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 14:44:20 -0800 (PST)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth) I am speaking as a pastor

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-03 Thread knpraise
om: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 14:54:27 -0500Comments concerning Webster are correct, I am sure. But I included the only definition Webster enter

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-03 Thread knpraise
(PST)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth) I just posted your words. It is then 'your' assessment that your words "besmurch" your "efforts" Do you have a Ministry to "Judaizing punks"? There is nothing in the

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-03 Thread Kevin Deegan
e of "Barf" is both a contradiction to your shallow claim thatyou do not judge Barth and a clear statement to the fact that you know nothing of what this man believes and the concerns he dealt with in his battle against liberal theologies (among otherconsiderations.) -Original Message---

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-03 Thread Kevin Deegan
Deegan openairmission@yahoo.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 16:39:51 -0800 (PST)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)I just posted your words. It is then 'your' assessment that your words "besmurch" you

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-03 Thread Judy Taylor
except here on TT. Ad hom is an attack on the person or words of an individual "rather than an appeal to pure reason" (Webster's Encyclopedic Dictionary.)-Original Message-From: Judy Taylor jandgtaylor1@juno.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc:

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-03 Thread Kevin Deegan
your house, no doubt, folding underwear. We are done.-Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan openairmission@yahoo.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 16:39:51 -0800 (PST)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)I j

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-03 Thread Kevin Deegan
uot; has no such limitations except here on TT. Ad hom is an attack on the person or words of an individual "rather than an appeal to pure reason" (Webster's Encyclopedic Dictionary.)-Original Message-----From: Judy Taylor jandgtaylor1@juno.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: Truth

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-03 Thread Terry Clifton
f an individual "rather than an appeal to pure reason" (Webster's Encyclopedic Dictionary.) -----Original Message----- From: Judy Taylor jandgtaylor1@juno.com To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; Sent: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 07:53:12 -0500 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On J

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-03 Thread Kevin Deegan
an an appeal to pure reason" (Webster's Encyclopedic Dictionary.)-Original Message-----From: Judy Taylor jandgtaylor1@juno.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ;Sent: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 07:53:12 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once a

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-03 Thread Charles Perry Locke
to continue this? If you do, lets please write to me privately. Thanks, Perry From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth) Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 19:40:30 -0500

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-03 Thread ttxpress
xt." Think about !!! jd -Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan openairmission@yahoo.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 13:49:36 -0800 (PST)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-03 Thread knpraise
: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth) AND? If he cleans up his mouth and stops being "DIVISIVE" that alone will place him firmly within the Christian camp? No need for a Conversion? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My comments and questions remain.

RE: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-03 Thread ShieldsFamily
(among otherconsiderations.) -Original Message- From: Judy Taylor jandgtaylor1@juno.com To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 07:46:22 -0500 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth) I

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-03 Thread ttxpress
myth (this ain't in the NT; its the fount ofAm Fundamentalist culticlegalism--its how legalism works to maintain partic racist exclusivity..its why evangelism in Fundamentalism equates to church s/hopping..and its oneobviousreaosn why there's an ACLU) On Sat, 3 Dec 2005 23:50:51 -0500 Judy

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-03 Thread knpraise
9:51 -0800 (PST)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth) I just posted your words. It is then 'your' assessment that your words "besmurch" your "efforts" Do you have a Ministry to "Judaizing punks"? There is nothi