Waiting on pins and needles! Izzy
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Well I promised myself I wouldnt
write any more
A distinction I've found helpful on this C vs C
discussion is drawn from IF IFF. The former can be understood as" If this
then that" while the latter is understood to mean (not say) "If and only if".
`Are there "conditions" attached to grace? If there are and, we are fallen how
then do we
Jt's meaning? Anyone presented with what you
outlined from scripture then, has the capacity within to say in response: a. I
do understand what you've just explained to me and I accept it and will repent
or, b. Same but, nope I don't want it.Lance
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Thanks for putting your "cards on the table"
Lance
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I would hope that anyone presented with anything I
say would be Berean enough to look for it
Jonathan Hughes wrote:
Well I
promised myself I wouldnt
write any more posts until I had finished writing an exam next Monday
but I
wanted to put one small one forward. Blaine and Johns comments
below (thank you gentlemen) highlight an area that I have had a lot of
change
in
Lance Muir wrote:
A distinction I've found helpful on
this C vs C discussion is drawn from IF IFF. The former can be
understood as" If this then that" while the latter is understood to
mean (not say) "If and only if". `Are there "conditions" attached to
grace? If there are and, we
Judy Taylor wrote:
We probably need to lay all preconceived
ideas aside andexamine our understanding of what grace means, that is
the definition ofgrace in the Word of God. We are taught that it means
"unmerited favor" - who coined that one? We are also taught that noone
could ever
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the flow of the blood is eternal and continual, that our sins are remembered NO MORE.
jt: Unrepented sin has not gone anywhere John and there is nothing wrong with God's memory
Because I ahve changed my
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john: Because I ahve changed my mind about sin does not eliminate sin from my life
(Rom 7:25, I John 1:8 , Ro 3:23)
jt: We not only have to change our mind and hate it, we separate ourselves from it and
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I don't know whether or not you said it but you hear it all the time in Churches
YOU said that I made that statement and when put on the spot, you ignore and move on.
John
ome and had actually done while in the flesh.
God Bless You,
Bill
Taylor
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message dat
Judy Taylor wrote:
I don't know that there is a difference
Terry - keeping and fulfilling is the same thing but we have been
taught doctrines in Christendom that do not conform us to godliness and
holiness. Enoch was pleasing to God and so was Elijah (they were
translated). We are
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John, I know you are aware of this, but for the sake of those who may not be, the difference between our Bible's translation and these here is strictly a matter of interpretation.
Hey -- thank you for the
Thank you, my brother, and through you God has made
my day as well.
Bill
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thought the prices to be a bit on the ram-it-in-you-and-twist-it-off high side
of reasonable.
Bill
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John wrote:
I Jo 1:8 makes a statement in greek, a present tense
statement: if we say that we are having no sin,
the truth is not within us.
all have sinned and are falling short of the glory
of God. [Romans 3:23?]
Hey, John, aren't you mangling these verses? The mood of these verbs
John wrote:
Because I have changed my mind about sin does not
eliminate sin from my life
(Rom 7:25, I John 1:8 , Ro 3:23)
Quoting other scriptures does not change the truth
expressed in those I offered to you.
Romans 7:25 is a summation of what it is like for the unregenerated
person
THIS WORRIES ME. WHAT DAVID MILLER WROTE BELOW CANNOT BE SUBSTANTIALLY IMPROVED UPON. I VERY SELDOM AGREE WITH DAVID MILLER. BECAUSE THE SUBJECT IS SO GRAVE, I WOULD SUGGEST YOU PRINT- OUT WHAT DAVID WROTE AND TAPE IT TO YOUR "REFRIGERATOR", AS THE IMPORT IS SO MAJOR THAT IT MAY MAKE A NEW MAN OUT
CANT HEAR YOU WHEN YOU ARE
SCREAMING!!! Thank you, Izzy
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Elsman, Would you kindly turn down the volume? We can all read normal typeset. We are not deaf, dumb or blind. Or do you consider your points to be so insignificant that you must SCREAM them out at us in
Thank you kindly, Brother! Izzy
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In a message dated 4/1/2004 2:15:03 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Elsman, Would you kindly turn down the volume?
Izzy -- remember I said "this guy does not have an off button? Well, if you turn the volumn down enough, it turns off. Right? Well, the volumn never changes
See, you underestimate Counselor Elsman. J Izzy
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See, you underestimate Counselor Elsman. J Izzy
Time will tell. Maybe.
John
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the flow of the blood is eternal and continual, that our sins are remembered NO MORE. The problem for the sinner is not sin, it is the decision to avoid God and, hence, His solution. The problem is already
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