Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?

2006-03-09 Thread Dave Hansen
DAVEH: Is that a Mormon girl trying to give you a karate chop, Dean?!?!?! ;-) -- ~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain six email lists... JOKESTER,

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] spirit of Hinn

2006-03-09 Thread Dave Hansen
gave us copies to tear up in from of the Temple-but we didn't do so. DAVEH: Thank you for that measure of respect, Dean. I guess I will Get DavH off you back DAVEH: ??? Does that mean you have your finger on the EXECUTE DavH button, Judge Dean? Has Kevin been complaining about me bothering

Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?

2006-03-09 Thread Lance Muir
1. 'Those principles', Dean? Which? 2. I don't mind YOU being moderator, Dean. You do, IMO, change horses in midstream a lot but, I can adjust. 3. I don't think of you as 'mean' Kevin. I believe you're doing the best with what you've got. What more can one ask of one? 4. As to 'refusing so

Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?

2006-03-09 Thread Lance Muir
'Large sections of the Bible.that are included in my understanding'. The majority, not including those on TT, would do so, Dean. - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 08, 2006 17:45 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The

Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?

2006-03-09 Thread Lance Muir
No Dean, not chapter but, an entire book. Thessalonians? - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 08, 2006 17:48 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk? - Original Message -

Re: [TruthTalk] Addendum to 'snakes anyone'?

2006-03-09 Thread Lance Muir
Wow!, a voice of clarity amidst ...who knows what? Thanks. However Iz, my question actually was 'Is speaking in tongues THE evidence of having been baptized in/with the Spirit'? In some circles this is Pentecostal doctrine and, must be signed off on (?) by all pastors. - Original

Re: [TruthTalk] An Offensive Gospel.

2006-03-09 Thread Lance Muir
I'm a big audiobook fan so, I listen to her (AL) read her own books. My response is pretty much the same as yours. The political influence of her early life is pervasive in her writings. (Yup, I do feel similarly re:'Lib' ranters!) - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily

Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?

2006-03-09 Thread Lance Muir
One could not but AMEN that, Iz. Well said. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 08, 2006 17:47 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk? Being teachable is a state of heart. A lack of pride. A

Re: [TruthTalk] An Offensive Gospel.

2006-03-09 Thread Lance Muir
Are you aware (of course you are) that a dvd is out with Dylan's gospel music? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 08, 2006 22:47 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] An Offensive Gospel. "Well they'll choose a man

Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?

2006-03-09 Thread Judy Taylor
I like what Iz says also Lance; but I am curious about your definition since you are constantly making public note of the fact that noone who differs from you on TT is "teachable" I'd appreciate hearing it from you - not DM, BT, JS, Caroline, Debie or Slade, especially since you have

Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?

2006-03-09 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/8/2006 10:02:55 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk? Just make sure you are on THE roll up yonder!cd: cd: I am as fear of God still exists with me.Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?

2006-03-09 Thread Lance Muir
1. I DO NOT BELIEVE that none on TT is teachable! 2. 'personal brand of humility'? NO! - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 09, 2006 06:00 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit'

Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?

2006-03-09 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Dave Hansen To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/9/2006 1:57:44 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk? DAVEH: I can understand you saying that about Lance, Kevin.but, why did you include Judge Dean in that rant? cd: Hey-No

[TruthTalk] Fw: Open door on the journey

2006-03-09 Thread Lance Muir
- Original Message - From: John D Wilson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: March 07, 2006 18:56 Subject: Open door on the journey I am now in Singapore after a brief stop over in South Africa with Jonathan and Tracey. My journey out has been interesting: First of all a one and a

Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?

2006-03-09 Thread Judy Taylor
You still haven't answered my query ... What does "teachable" look like to you? or How do you - Lance Muir determine whether or not one is "teachable?" On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 06:13:44 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1. I DO NOT BELIEVE that none on TT is teachable! 2.

Re: [TruthTalk] ***************Respose - ModeratorcommentADHOM*************

2006-03-09 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Dave Hansen To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/9/2006 3:08:05 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] ***Respose - ModeratorcommentADHOM* Are you implying Dean called you such NAMES?DAVEH: I'll let Judge Dean answer that,

Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?

2006-03-09 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Dave Hansen To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/9/2006 3:30:12 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk? DAVEH: Is that a Mormon girl trying to give you a karate chop, Dean?!?!?! ;-) cd: Cute-No Dave she is a Pagan also. Did the

Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?

2006-03-09 Thread Lance Muir
I won't BE answering you on this, Judy. - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 09, 2006 06:25 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk? You still haven't answered

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Open door on the journey

2006-03-09 Thread Judy Taylor
A couple of questionsLance; 1. Is John Wilson preterist like you and is "preterism" his gospel? 2. What is "personhood" and where would one get the idea that Jesus had come to redeem it? John wrote: She said she never felt the church was interested in who she was as a person. I told her

Re: [TruthTalk] ***************Respose -ModeratorcommentADHOM*************

2006-03-09 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/9/2006 6:43:01 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] ***Respose -ModeratorcommentADHOM* NO, NO, NO! YOUR TRUTH, DEAN, is perceived by YOU absent any ad hom component. I'm with DH on this

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Open door on the journey

2006-03-09 Thread Lance Muir
1. I've no idea as we've never discussed it over the years we've come to know one another. 2. 'Personhood' Judy, has been discussed at great length. As I recall, you found the observations concerning it ('personhood') both ridiculous and humorous. - Original Message - From:

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] spirit of Hinn

2006-03-09 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Dave Hansen To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/9/2006 3:58:51 AM Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] spirit of Hinn gave us copies to tear up in from of the Temple-but we didn't do so.DAVEH: Thank you for that measure of respect, Dean. cd: That

Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?

2006-03-09 Thread Kevin Deegan
Is it the two sentences from me or the Five BIBLE verses that you consider a RANT?Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DAVEH: I can understand you saying that about Lance, Kevin.but, why did you include Judge Dean in that rant?Kevin Deegan wrote: You Lance can attack all you want. God

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Open door on the journey

2006-03-09 Thread Judy Taylor
Hmm! Are you sure your recall does not concern someone else Lance? I don't remember commenting on this and I certainly do not find it humorous. Jesus did not come to put a bandaid on the "old man" which would be our flesh or "personhood" The invitation is to become part of a "new creation" -

Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?

2006-03-09 Thread Lance Muir
Neither. It is who I perceive you to be as a 'person'. - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 09, 2006 07:18 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk? Is it the two sentences from me or the Five BIBLE

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Open door on the journey

2006-03-09 Thread Lance Muir
No Judy, I'm quite sure. Bill, David and John went on at some length concerning 'personhood'. No matter Judy, as your responses then were just like now. - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] spirit of Hinn

2006-03-09 Thread Lance Muir
One wonders with what frequency the _expression_ 'let's get it on' refers to a conversation? Don't you get most of this out of your system Dean at the dojo? By the by 'master' Dean, just how much of the Eastern philosophy have you assimilated? - Original Message - From: Dean

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Open door on the journey

2006-03-09 Thread Judy Taylor
So a "new creation" is not a "new creation" to you, Bill, David, and John and the old flesh personhood does not have to be "reckoned dead" - Noone must die daily. Is this what you are saying? Along with the fact that on this issue I have been "unteachable?" On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 07:26:29

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] spirit of Hinn

2006-03-09 Thread Kevin Deegan
I do not want you gone Dave. Please don't misrepresent me I have never said or implied such I am not a pope protestant or potentate! Banishment and worse is a Popish - Protestant distinctive! This is in their belief system I have told you before I am not of the RC nor their offspring the

Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?

2006-03-09 Thread Kevin Deegan
Now that was funnyDave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DAVEH: Is that a Mormon girl trying to give you a karate chop, Dean?!?!?! ;-) ** -- ~~~Dave Hansen[EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Open door on the journey

2006-03-09 Thread Lance Muir
No! - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 09, 2006 07:40 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Open door on the journey So a "new creation" is not a "new creation" to you, Bill,

Re: [TruthTalk] Addendum to 'snakes anyone'?

2006-03-09 Thread Kevin Deegan
READ THE POST Do I think those who don’t aren’t saved? No. Any other question? IzPerhaps IZ believes being IN Christ, IN the Spirit Baptized INTO is the act of being a Christian as the Bible states. All others that are WITHOUT or out side of that transaction of God's grace are NOT Christian.

Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?

2006-03-09 Thread Kevin Deegan
Of course what else is NEW?Is it because you are preparing an answer on you own dollar$ supporting WMD?Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I won't BE answering you on this, Judy.- Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc:

Re: [TruthTalk] ***************Respose - ModeratorcommentADHOM*************

2006-03-09 Thread Kevin Deegan
IMO?Your opinion is your opinion that Real Truth is unknowable, does that extend to your opinions? OTOH Youropionion is thatyour opinions should be accepted EX CATHEDRA.Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NO, NO, NO! YOUR TRUTH, DEAN, is perceived by YOU absent any ad hom component. I'm

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Open door on the journey

2006-03-09 Thread Kevin Deegan
It is in a book Not THE BOOKJudy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A couple of questionsLance; 1. Is John Wilson preterist like you and is "preterism" his gospel? 2. What is "personhood" and where would one get the idea that Jesus had come to redeem it?John wrote: She said she

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Open door on the journey

2006-03-09 Thread Lance Muir
See my post to Dean re:clarity! - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 09, 2006 08:21 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Open door on the journey It is in a book Not THE BOOKJudy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Open door on the journey

2006-03-09 Thread Kevin Deegan
Well as far as Theology it is pretty funny Actually it is hilariousLance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. I've no idea as we've never discussed it over the years we've come to know one another. 2. 'Personhood' Judy, has been discussed at great length. As I recall, you found the

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Open door on the journey

2006-03-09 Thread Kevin Deegan
Personhood? The theolgy is hilarious, that some to this view is nothing but SAD!Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm! Are you sure your recall does not concern someone else Lance? I don't remember commenting on this and I certainly do not find it humorous. Jesus did not come to put

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Open door on the journey

2006-03-09 Thread Lance Muir
I'm glad we amuse one another. I find you and Dean embarrassingly funny! - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 09, 2006 08:22 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Open door on the journey Well as far as Theology it is

Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?

2006-03-09 Thread Kevin Deegan
Is that an attack on as you put it my Person? Is such synonomous with AD-HOM?Shall we discuss your favorite subject and change the site name to Personality Talk? Can we get a group hug first?Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neither. It is who I perceive you to be as a 'person'.

[TruthTalk] Person

2006-03-09 Thread Lance Muir
It is apparent to all that I'm no match for such as Dean, Kevin and, Judy. I'm just not in their league. Therefore.NO, I'm not leaving! I'd only suggest that you look up the discussion on the above as it took place in the history of the 'believing community'. You needn't

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Open door on the journey

2006-03-09 Thread Kevin Deegan
Do you belong to a PERSONALITY CULT? Who said YOU amuse me?READ SLOWLY the Theology is greatly amusingI will check the dictionary/grammar I think "you" is a personal something or other. Theology is a thingy Why is this so confusing? Are you in AD-HOM land again. You are on the wrong

Re: [TruthTalk] ***************Respose - ModeratorcommentADHOM*************

2006-03-09 Thread Kevin Deegan
I will speak with great plainess of speech for ya You SELF-REFUTE in your philosophy/statementsWhat shall we do with the Law of NON CONTRADICTION? Banish it to America?Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I reall do hope that when you 'ranters' rant that you speak with greater clarity

Re: [TruthTalk] Person

2006-03-09 Thread Kevin Deegan
There you go refering us to your "bibLe" againWhy would I not find such import displayed in the HOLY BIBLE? Why do I need to go to those that ( IYO ) may or may not have REAL TRUTH Your philosophy is SELF-REFUTINGLance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is apparent to all that I'm no

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Open door on the journey

2006-03-09 Thread Lance Muir
YOU still AMUSE ME so, I'll hang around if only for laughs. - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 09, 2006 08:38 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Open door on the journey Do you belong to a PERSONALITY CULT? Who

RE: [TruthTalk] Addendum to 'snakes anyone'?

2006-03-09 Thread ShieldsFamily
It is one evidence. Not the only evidence, certainly. iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 3:52 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Addendum to 'snakes anyone'? Wow!, a voice of

RE: [TruthTalk] An Offensive Gospel.

2006-03-09 Thread ShieldsFamily
I refuse to purchase anything else from her, as she uses part of the proceeds to support liberal causes. She is one of those enigmas who calls herself a Christ follower who is a ranting liberal. Only God knows where the dividing line lies in such cases. iz From: [EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] View of REALITY

2006-03-09 Thread Kevin Deegan
Your DOGMA just ran over my CARma manLOL It is self refuting? You might as well say reality is self refuting. you might as well walk/not walk on a local highway. ( IMO ) ; ) Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The so-called law of non-contradiction is, on occasion, self-refuting.

Re: [TruthTalk] Addendum to 'snakes anyone'?

2006-03-09 Thread Lance Muir
ThePentecostal pastors/seminary teachers I speak with differ over this. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 09, 2006 08:43 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Addendum to 'snakes anyone'? It is one evidence. Not

RE: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?

2006-03-09 Thread ShieldsFamily
Ignorance is in the dictionary. Look it up. It seems apparent to me that the most ignorant are often the proudest of it, like the types who plaster their cars with bumper stickers that say things like Visualize World Peace, etc. iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: [TruthTalk] Addendum to 'snakes anyone'?

2006-03-09 Thread Kevin Deegan
No it is the ACT Things such as Love are the evidence/emblemCan one see your baptism into the death of Christ? That is a spiritual act performed by God One can however see the EVIDENCE of your Love. ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:It is one evidence. Not the only

Re: [TruthTalk] Person

2006-03-09 Thread Lance Muir
I should have know better than to suggest thinking. Shame on me! Do you enjoy saying nothing about something? - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 09, 2006 08:42 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Person There you go

Re: [TruthTalk] Addendum to 'snakes anyone'?

2006-03-09 Thread Kevin Deegan
SO Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ThePentecostal pastors/seminary teachers I speak with differ over this. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 09, 2006 08:43 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Addendum to 'snakes

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Open door on the journey

2006-03-09 Thread Kevin Deegan
PT 101Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: YOU still AMUSE ME so, I'll hang around if only for laughs.- Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 09, 2006 08:38 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Open door on the journeyDo you belong to

Re: [TruthTalk] An Offensive Gospel.

2006-03-09 Thread Lance Muir
This seems to be a real problem for you. All kidding aside would you attempt to help me understand you better on this? Do you believe that one cannot be a believer yet convinced that the right is wrong? - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To:

RE: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?

2006-03-09 Thread Kevin Deegan
HEY wait a second IZI have bumper stickers on my car is that a problem? They say things such as Visualize Whirled Peas ; )Just kiddin Actually I have scripture on my car GO FIGURE...ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Ignorance is in the dictionary. Look it up. It

Re: [TruthTalk] Person

2006-03-09 Thread Kevin Deegan
MayI quote? "This seems to be a real problem for you. All kidding aside would you attempt to help me understand you better on this? Do you believe that one cannot be a believer yet convinced that the right is wrong?"Part 2 Please fill us in on your enjoyment of GT Lance Muir [EMAIL

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Open door on the journey

2006-03-09 Thread ShieldsFamily
I cant help, also, wondering what kind of gospel this is.  Can you enlighten us, Lance, on redeemed personhood? How about repentance from sin and dead works? How about the cleansing Blood? I know we must be gentle when opening rusted shut doors, but we must use truth or we have released

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Open door on the journey

2006-03-09 Thread ShieldsFamily
I dont recall this either.  Id like to hear Lances take on it. iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 6:26 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Open door on the journey No

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Open door on the journey

2006-03-09 Thread Lance Muir
It's called the archives. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 09, 2006 08:57 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Open door on the journey I don’t recall this either. I’d like to hear Lance’s take on it. iz

Re: [TruthTalk] Addendum to 'snakes anyone'?

2006-03-09 Thread Lance Muir
So who has the truth? - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 09, 2006 08:49 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Addendum to 'snakes anyone'? SO Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

RE: [TruthTalk] Addendum to 'snakes anyone'?

2006-03-09 Thread ShieldsFamily
Amen. Some are more filled than others. Its a daily choice to abide in Christ and spill over with the sweet smelling fruit of the Spirit, or dwell in the flesh and spill over with stench of sin. But until we are baptized in Him we dont even have that choice! iz From: [EMAIL

RE: [TruthTalk] Addendum to 'snakes anyone'?

2006-03-09 Thread ShieldsFamily
Thats why Im non-denominational. It is an irrelevant issue to me. Let those who wish to hold up one doctrine over another cluster around their denominations. I only wish to lift up Jesus. The Holy Spirit will then lead each one into Truthas far as they will allow. iz From:

RE: [TruthTalk] An Offensive Gospel.

2006-03-09 Thread ShieldsFamily
No Im not saying that. Im saying that if one is filled with the Holy Spirit then sinful attitudes/beliefs should start to fall away. Like some people at our church have been heard to say, I became a Christ follower and then all my opinions about politics started changing. No one said

RE: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?

2006-03-09 Thread ShieldsFamily
I did not! Im not going to define ignorance; did you really want me to??? But Ive often noticed that those who are the wackiest are also the loudest about it. iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 7:53 AM To:

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Open door on the journey

2006-03-09 Thread ShieldsFamily
Sorry to talk over your head, Lance.  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 8:00 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Open door on the journey Huh? - Original Message

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Open door on the journey

2006-03-09 Thread ShieldsFamily
Its called ducking the question when you dont have the answer. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 8:00 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Open door on the journey It's

RE: [TruthTalk] Addendum to 'snakes anyone'?

2006-03-09 Thread ShieldsFamily
Whoever has Christ, obviously. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 8:02 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Addendum to 'snakes anyone'? So who has the truth?

Re: [TruthTalk] Addendum to 'snakes anyone'?

2006-03-09 Thread Lance Muir
Nuff said. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 09, 2006 09:14 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Addendum to 'snakes anyone'? That’s why I’m non-denominational. It is an irrelevant issue to me. Let those who wish

Re: [TruthTalk] An Offensive Gospel.

2006-03-09 Thread Lance Muir
Clarification please..the right, including GWB, can be wrong? FYI see the anniversay edition (2 discs) of 'All the President's Men'. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 09, 2006 09:18 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] An

Re: [TruthTalk] An Offensive Gospel.

2006-03-09 Thread ttxpress
haven't seen it, Bro--thx wonder what poetry'son it? let us in on it On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 05:05:20 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Are you aware (of course you are) that a dvd is out with Dylan's gospel music? ||

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Open door on the journey

2006-03-09 Thread Lance Muir
I've already acknowledged that I'm often not up to the level at which Judy, Kevin and Dean 'dialogue'. Shucks, now I've got to add your name! - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 09, 2006 09:22 Subject: RE:

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Open door on the journey

2006-03-09 Thread Lance Muir
It isn't when the question itself is in no way genuine. Believe me when I tell you that the archives contain the whole conversation. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 09, 2006 09:22 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw:

RE: [TruthTalk] An Offensive Gospel.

2006-03-09 Thread ShieldsFamily
Everyone can be wrong about something sometimes. You can be wrong about something that doesnt grieve the Holy Spirit. No one is infallible on every issue. But Believers dont hold onto beliefs that grieve the Holy Spirit. iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Open door on the journey

2006-03-09 Thread ShieldsFamily
Who are you to judge whether I am genuine when I say Im not sure what your friend meant when she told a woman that Christ would redeem her personhood?  Are you calling me a liar? Id really like to know what she means by that.  Is she saying Jesus loves the real youyou dont have to conform

RE: [TruthTalk] Addendum to 'snakes anyone'?

2006-03-09 Thread ShieldsFamily
You know.I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. Get it? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 8:37 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Addendum to 'snakes anyone'? Huh? again!

Re: [TruthTalk] Addendum to 'snakes anyone'?

2006-03-09 Thread Lance Muir
Oo, I see. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 09, 2006 09:52 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Addendum to 'snakes anyone'? You know….”I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life.” Get it?

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Open door on the journey

2006-03-09 Thread Lance Muir
Perhaps you will read it again. She (John) is a he. There's no way I'd call you a liar, Iz. No, I'm not going down that road again (person/persons/personhood). Just think of him (not her) as a heretic(k) along with me then, move on. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Open door on the journey

2006-03-09 Thread ShieldsFamily
Whatever. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 9:00 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Open door on the journey Perhaps you will read it again. She (John) is a he. There's no

[TruthTalk] Fw: Prayer Update: Shankar

2006-03-09 Thread Lance Muir
- Original Message - From: John D Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: March 09, 2006 10:54 Subject: Prayer Update: Shankar Greetings from Singapore. Today I met with Shankar--the Taoist I met in Singapore a year ago. His mother came from Japan and his father from

Re: [TruthTalk] Person

2006-03-09 Thread Kevin Deegan
Coming from a Master Cryptologist I thought you really enjoyed the cryptic messages passed from within the deep dark caverns of the "community of real crypto believers" Incidently, is Gary the high priest and pinnacle of community communication?Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MayI quote?

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] spirit of Hinn

2006-03-09 Thread Dave Hansen
That wasn't not done out of respect. DAVEH: Hmm...Do you have any respect for Mormons, Dean? Sure sounded like a set up to me? You agree DaveH? DAVEH: Hmmm again.Sounds like something he learned from SPers. Would a Mormon High Priest do such? DAVEH: None that I know

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Open door on the journey

2006-03-09 Thread Kevin Deegan
DO WE REALLY WANT TO GO THERE ONtoLOGICALy? Ontorelation aspects of personhood and the chemical attachments? My holistic rememberance of the "discussions" brings back bad memories!Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's called the archives.- Original Message -From:

Re: [TruthTalk] Addendum to 'snakes anyone'?

2006-03-09 Thread Kevin Deegan
Truth is not a shell game unless one is a Spiritual Huckster then it can be a tool for fooling the masses There are plenty of them out there! "Jesus Christ was not begotten by the Holy Ghost' if the Son was begotten by the Holy Ghost, it would be very dangerous to baptize and confirm females,

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Open door on the journey

2006-03-09 Thread Lance Muir
Well, well! It's good to see that someone actually does remember THAT CONVERSATION, even if unfavourably! - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 09, 2006 12:05 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Open door on the journey

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Open door on the journey

2006-03-09 Thread Kevin Deegan
If it quacksShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its called ducking the question when you dont have the answer. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 8:00 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org

RE: [TruthTalk] Addendum to 'snakes anyone'?

2006-03-09 Thread Kevin Deegan
So what does the fact that they are wrong have to do with anything? If I can find some other group who is wrong on the issue what does that prove? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 7:48 AM To:

Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?

2006-03-09 Thread Dave Hansen
That is Judge Moore to you buddy!! DAVEH: I have a hard time figuring out which Judge I'm dealing with, as he seems to speak from both sides of his mouth. :-\ DAVEH: I can understand you saying that about Lance, Kevin.but, why did you include Judge Dean in that rant?

Re: [TruthTalk] An Offensive Gospel.

2006-03-09 Thread Kevin Deegan
For further TRUTH see DC comics "Superman" circa 1950 (all volumes)Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Clarification please..the right, including GWB, can be wrong? FYI see the anniversay edition (2 discs) of 'All the President's Men'.- Original Message -From:

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Open door on the journey

2006-03-09 Thread Kevin Deegan
Can we please have some ONTOLOGICAL REDACTIONISM here?ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry to talk over your head, Lance. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 8:00 AM To:

Re: [TruthTalk] Hidden in Christ

2006-03-09 Thread knpraise
Just talked to my 38 year old lawyer/state wrestling champ son -- on the phone. He is presenting a song and a lesson to one of the Unity Churches in Seattle, this weekend. He is not a professional speaker although he is very much a professional type guy. He has titled his lesson "Man's failure

Re: [TruthTalk] Hidden in Christ

2006-03-09 Thread Lance Muir
Always good to see a 'person' such as yourself on TT, Bishop! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 09, 2006 13:25 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hidden in Christ Just talked to my 38 year old lawyer/state

Re: [TruthTalk] ***************Respose - ModeratorcommentADHOM*************

2006-03-09 Thread knpraise
There is not a single good accomplished by calling names, true or untrue. Rules of debate simply do not entertain the notion that an ad hom is always a lie. That is a misrepresentation of "ad hom." It can be something very true but off subject. A person makes a statement and the accepted response

Re: [TruthTalk] Hidden in Christ

2006-03-09 Thread knpraise
Ditto. -- Original message -- From: "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Always good to see a 'person' such as yourself on TT, Bishop! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 09, 2006 13:25 Subject: Re:

Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?

2006-03-09 Thread Judy Taylor
Why not? You seem to expect answers to your frequent questions Lance Do you have a reason - or just being contrary?Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I won't BE answering you on this, Judy. From: Judy Taylor You still haven't

[TruthTalk] Responding to Moderator Comments

2006-03-09 Thread David Miller
Dear TruthTalk list members: If you see a post that has Moderator Comment or something similar, please do not reply to that post to the list. If you want to comment on it to the moderator, do so off list. If you think it appropriate to courtesy copy me or other TruthTalk members,

Re: [TruthTalk] Hidden in Christ

2006-03-09 Thread Kevin Deegan
"I contrasted that with what manyfundies believe"JD is back with GUNS BLAZING calling names, justITCHIN FUR ehFIGHT. Too bad their are no "fUNDIES" here, we could sit back and watch the FUR FLY![EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Just talked to my 38 year old lawyer/state wrestling champ son -- on

Re: [TruthTalk] ***************Respose - ModeratorcommentADHOM*************

2006-03-09 Thread Kevin Deegan
You DaveH are a Pagan.DAVEH: I respectfully disagree, Judge Dean. To me, your above comment is a blatant ad-homWhy is attacking your genuinely held beliefs an attack on your person? Seriously; can you expound? Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I called you a Mormon-to which you do not

Re: [TruthTalk] Deeply Held Beliefs

2006-03-09 Thread Kevin Deegan
OOPS! just noticed the SUBJECT so I reposted changedKevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:You DaveH are a Pagan.DAVEH: I respectfully disagree, Judge Dean. To me, your above comment is a blatant ad-homWhy is attacking your genuinely held beliefs an attack on your person? Seriously; can

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] spirit of Hinn

2006-03-09 Thread Kevin Deegan
Sure sounded like a set up to me? You agree DaveH?DAVEH: Hmmm again.Sounds like something he learned from SPers.WHAT are you implying DH? Does this come close to a NON BLATANT AD HOM in your eyes?Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That wasn't not done out of respect. DAVEH:

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