Re: [TruthTalk] Putting people down

2005-12-08 Thread Judy Taylor
I sure don't wonder at this Christine, Whenever you post JD makes allusions to your age, like he is the old man full of wisdom and you are just the novice who still has to learn; do you sometimes feel like you are being diss'd? On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 21:11:05 -0800 (PST) Christine Miller [EMAIL

[TruthTalk] Why is it that those people who profess participation, by adoption through Christ in God's family...

2005-12-08 Thread Lance Muir
Forever rail against the graciousness of this selfsame God? Judy Kevin wish to inform us what God can't do through Lewis Tolkien (in print or on film). Y'all ought to read Linda Shield's observations. Amen Linda! David, Christine, Judy and Linda rail against feminism, absolving the

Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject--AE

2005-12-08 Thread Judy Taylor
When all of us stand before God at the great white throne judgment... we have to know where we failed. Noone will have grounds toaccuse Him of beingunloving or unjust because we will have condemned ourselves and we will know thiswithout anyone having to tell us... So the test is for us

[TruthTalk] On employing the words OF GOD without the WORD OF GOD

2005-12-08 Thread Lance Muir
IFF one (mis)cites Scripture with the intention of speaking for God, what is it that one has done? Perhaps one who only/always cites/interprets without error can enlighten us?

Re: [TruthTalk] Putting people down

2005-12-08 Thread Lance Muir
Perhaps when her mind and the MIND OF GOD are more in sinc; having built upon this foundation layed for her by her mom (someone almost never mentioned by either her or her dad..strangely) she will then be spoken to more frequently as Christine and, not David's daughter. (I'd mention you

[TruthTalk] DAVE HANSEN

2005-12-08 Thread Lance Muir
It may have been the 'lost in the suffle thingy, Dave. Did you not see my specific questions concerning your clarification re:AE from a distinctly Mormon perspective. I GENUINE BELIEVE THAT SOME ON TT MAY BE UNAWARE JUST HOW DIFFERENTLY YOU VIEW 'god's lineage'!! I'm not suggesting

Re: [TruthTalk] Why is it that those people who profess participation, by adoption through Christ in God's family...

2005-12-08 Thread Judy Taylor
Lance my goodness, this looks more like a morning rant than morning musings ... sigh! On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 05:30:46 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Forever rail against the graciousness of this selfsame God? Who is railing? Taking His Own Words seriously is hardly

Re: [TruthTalk] On employing the words OF GOD without the WORD OF GOD

2005-12-08 Thread Judy Taylor
Lance why don't you trying employing the "words of God" with the WORD OF GOD sometime and give us an example of the "real thing" IYO of course. jt On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 05:41:25 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: IFF one (mis)cites Scripture with the intention of speaking for

Re: [TruthTalk] Putting people down

2005-12-08 Thread Judy Taylor
Your fault if you don't know her mother's name Lance. David has mentioned it on TT before. I know it. Also why would they be talking about her when they are so ridiculed and maligned? I don't notice you saying a whole lot about your wife on this list either and I certainly would not know her

[TruthTalk] Judy says:'FOR THE RECORD I DON't believe csl actually knew the Lord

2005-12-08 Thread Lance Muir
Your DISCERNMENT ON THIS MATTER (who knows, maybe a few other matters also) is wide of the mark.I've occasionally drawn a comparison between yourself and David Miller on this discernment thingy, Judy. Do take care won't you, Judy, in consigning persons to Hell?

Re: [TruthTalk] Putting people down

2005-12-08 Thread Lance Muir
My rather ill-formed point Judy, had more to do with David's errant 'take' and the male/female thingy. He and, others who espouse such errant thinking/teaching are somewhat accountable for the very issues they rail against. - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To:

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy says:'FOR THE RECORD I DON't believe csl actually knew the Lord

2005-12-08 Thread Judy Taylor
Yes Lance, I do appreciate your concern But I have yet to consign the first person to hell - it's all in your too vivid imagination. On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 06:19:44 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Your DISCERNMENT ON THIS MATTER (who knows, maybe a few other matters also) is

Re: [TruthTalk] Putting people down

2005-12-08 Thread Judy Taylor
How would you know how DavidM loves his wife Lance? Isn't this putting your opinion out there a bit? I don't think he has shared his whole mind on this matter exhaustively - do you? Also his priorities are definitely not mainstream. So why is he the subject here? On Thu, 8 Dec 2005

[TruthTalk] WATCH BELOW AS JUDY ASSISTS LANCE IN THE ART OF INTERPRETATION

2005-12-08 Thread Lance Muir
Judy said'For the record, I don't believe that C. S. Lewis actually knew the Lord' Lance, having made an incorrect leap in logic,due to a belief that Judy believed that persons who die while not knowing the Lord (Lewis is dead), go to hell, thought she'd so consigned him. I suspect that

Re: [TruthTalk] Putting people down

2005-12-08 Thread Lance Muir
I don't eat rabbit. - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 08, 2005 06:37 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Putting people down How would you know how DavidM loves his wife

Re: [TruthTalk] WATCH BELOW AS JUDY ASSISTS LANCE IN THE ART OF INTERPRETATION

2005-12-08 Thread Judy Taylor
On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 06:44:00 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Judy said'For the record, I don't believe that C. S. Lewis actually knew the Lord' Lance, having made an incorrect leap in logic,due to a belief that Judy believed that persons who die while not knowing the

Re: [TruthTalk] WATCH BELOW AS JUDY ASSISTS LANCE IN THE ART OF INTERPRETATION

2005-12-08 Thread Lance Muir
OK Judy! Having painted yourself in a corner, just make yourself comfortable. I'll watch your posts in future for use of the word 'HELL'. - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December

[TruthTalk] ATTENTION MODERATOR(s) We do have two (2) of them don't we?

2005-12-08 Thread Lance Muir
Quoting Judy Taylor: He (God) says that only those who know how to separate the holy from the profane can be his mouthpieces. They (JRRTY CSL) were not speaking for Him (God). IMO JUDY YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW TO SEPARATE THE HOLY FROM THE PROFANE! Applying the same logic to you as you applied

Re: [TruthTalk] Lance Needs to Check Archives

2005-12-08 Thread Judy Taylor
Lance, it may be wise for you tocheck the archives before making these wild accusations. It's not me doing the painting. It is you who have me in a corner of your mind labelled "fundamentalist" And you ascribe to me all of the beliefs in your "fundamentalist"card file. As perthe issue of

Re: [TruthTalk] Is Judas going to Heaven?

2005-12-08 Thread Kevin Deegan
Again you choose to personalize? Are you attacking my caracter?Why would God allow a "Devil" into heaven?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:-Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 19:40:57 -0800 (PST)Subject: Re:

Re: [TruthTalk] ATTENTION MODERATOR(s) We do have two (2) of them don't we?

2005-12-08 Thread Judy Taylor
Are you up to being able to separate the holy from the profane yourself Lance? On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 07:17:46 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Quoting Judy Taylor: He (God) says that only those who know how to separate the holy from the profane can be his mouthpieces. They

Re: [TruthTalk] ATTENTION MODERATOR(s) We do have two (2) of them don't we?

2005-12-08 Thread Lance Muir
Honestly Judy, just SOMETIMES! Now, back to the matter at hand; IFF you are wrong concerning JRRT CSL (according to some on TT) then, what are we to think concerning that which we read of you hereafter? - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To:

[TruthTalk] What is it with this PERSONALIZE PROBLEM?

2005-12-08 Thread Lance Muir
Are the PERSONS on TT suggesting that that which they say is not embodied truth? Just say so so that we may factor that in when reading you.

Re: [TruthTalk] There he goes again

2005-12-08 Thread Kevin Deegan
Your games don't work with peoplewho actually think and walk upright at the same time.You are playing games THIRD REQUEST Show us where I called CSL "EVIL" Show us the substance of the problem with what I posted.Or STOP Putting your FALSE ALLEGATIONS in my mouth! This is the only way

Re: [TruthTalk] ATTENTION MODERATOR(s) We do have two (2) of them don't we?

2005-12-08 Thread Judy Taylor
That is not my problem (what you think); it is entirely between you and the one you serve. My responsibility is to walk in good conscience toward the Lord and others. On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 07:30:48 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Honestly Judy, just SOMETIMES! Now, back to

Re: [TruthTalk] What is it with this PERSONALIZE PROBLEM?

2005-12-08 Thread Judy Taylor
OK - You go first On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 07:32:45 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Are the PERSONS on TT suggesting that that which they say is not embodied truth? J ust say so so that we may factor that in when reading you. judyt He that says "I know Him" and

Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: sda.htm

2005-12-08 Thread Kevin Deegan
WOW you know a lot about that stuff are you an OCCULTIST?What was with the sacrifice of a Black sheep?The Author is D M Quinn He is a commited Mormon. He is a Professor at BYU from the publisher:In this ground-breaking book, D. Michael Quinn masterfully reconstructs an earlier age,

[TruthTalk] For an INERRANTIST y'all are ERRANT (IMO - whew!) in your interpretations, Judy

2005-12-08 Thread Lance Muir
Even the one 'infallible interpreter' on TT has taken issue with your Scriptural interpretation(s) on occasion(s). Many have taken exception to your non-personalist hermeneutic. Many take exception to your sacred/secular dichotomy. Many take exception over your dualism/gnosticism. Many take

Re: [TruthTalk] ATTENTION MODERATOR(s) We do have two (2) of them don't we?

2005-12-08 Thread Lance Muir
Judy: You made it YOUR problem when you stated that he did not know the Lord. (I don't think you even employed an IMO). Why not, at the very least, give us an "IMO'? - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc:

Re: [TruthTalk] Putting people down

2005-12-08 Thread Kevin Deegan
Apparently he does not see it. He is unable to DEAL with issues only attacks PEOPLE who raise issues.So don't let it get to you. Just be glad he has not yet called you aIDIOT, JEW PUNK etc. When he calls someone a name it is only "designed to help" them! Christine Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[TruthTalk] IDIOT, JEW PUNK???????????????

2005-12-08 Thread Lance Muir
Please explain? Who called who this?

Re: [TruthTalk] Blaine Autumn equinox

2005-12-08 Thread Kevin Deegan
So there was NO Autumn Equinox in 1824? 1825? 1826? 1827? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Blainerb: Not only was your author wrong as to the ruler of Capricorn, he implies that the autumn equinox falls on the 22 of September every year of the four years Joseph Smith went to the hill to meet with

Re: [TruthTalk] To Lance who is ever seeking the perfect person

2005-12-08 Thread Judy Taylor
On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 07:42:37 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Even the one 'infallible interpreter' on TT has taken issue with your Scriptural interpretation(s) on occasion(s). Many have taken exception to your non-personalist hermeneutic. What in the world is this?

Re: [TruthTalk] Lance's Opinion - My problem???

2005-12-08 Thread Judy Taylor
Lance I don't make your opinions my problem so why is what I write your problem? You won't ever have to answer to anyone for it. I am responsible for what I speak/write. Why arn't you just as concerned about the heretic hunters as you are about the occultic type fantasy folk? jt On Thu, 8

Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject--AE

2005-12-08 Thread Terry Clifton
I won't speculate, Dave, but I should point out that monkeys and horses do not have a soul. == Dave Hansen wrote: He knew they would sin. He did not plan for them to fall. He planned a remedy for the fall. Big difference.

Re: [TruthTalk] Why is it that those people who profess participation, by adoption through Christ in God's family...

2005-12-08 Thread Kevin Deegan
It is not that He can not do. It is that he will not do. God does not speak thru profane persons such as Cain Esau. In fact he calls them names as in "PROFANE" Though he criedEsau was REJECTED! details in the HOLY BIBLE Nobody is railing against the grace of God. God offered his grace

Re: [TruthTalk] Lance's Opinion - My problem???

2005-12-08 Thread Judy Taylor
Bottom line Lance is Jesus' criteria for knowing the Truth (Himself) is When we abide in Him and HIS WORDS abide in us - is when we will know the Truth and the truth will make us free . Rather than when we know a little bit about Him and mix it with pagan folklore and mystery religions

Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject--AE

2005-12-08 Thread Terry Clifton
I truly wish you could see this ,Dave, because it is important to our understanding. The tree was there for a reason. God could have programmed every creature to behave exactly as He wanted them to, but He did not. He even gave angels a choice. He wants us to come to Him out of love, just as

Re: [TruthTalk] Why is it that those people who profess participation, by adoption through Christ in God's family...

2005-12-08 Thread Lance Muir
Kevin please, what was this IDIOT, JEW comment you posted? - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 08, 2005 08:13 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Why is it that those people who profess participation, by adoption through

RE: [TruthTalk]

2005-12-08 Thread ShieldsFamily
My time is too valuable to spend reading every book on the planet, whether it appeals to me or not. Lance is the one who does that. iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 10:10 PM To:

RE: [TruthTalk]

2005-12-08 Thread ShieldsFamily
When I was younger and smarter. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Taylor Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 10:19 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] How many years ago would that be? Bill -

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy asks Lance

2005-12-08 Thread Judy Taylor
Are Kevin and Judy chasing them down to behead them or burn them at the stake taking away their opportunity to repent, Lord willing? The latter (as you call them) do not argue with orthodoxy as they are part of it but neither do they sanctify the Lord in their hearts which is apparent by the

[TruthTalk] I DIDN'T READ IT BUT I DID FIND IT REVOLTING says Iz

2005-12-08 Thread Lance Muir
There's something afoot Watson! No there isn't, it's just a contradiction. - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 08, 2005 08:32 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] My time is too valuable to spend reading every book on the planet, whether

[TruthTalk] THE TRUTH HIMSELF****DAVID MILLER PLEASE TAKE NOTE!!

2005-12-08 Thread Lance Muir
Judy and I, at least for a nanosecond, believe the same thing. This, IMO, is that at which I was getting and, so it would appear, was Judy. HE IS THE TRUTH. Our statements concerning Him are always provisional. That's the best that even you can do, David.

RE: [TruthTalk] Why is it that those people who profess participation, by adoption through Christ in God's family...

2005-12-08 Thread ShieldsFamily
Judy, how about considering the fact that CSL was MUCH OLDER than you when he got saved, and maybe just hadnt had all the years and/or Bible Study Fellowship experiences that you have. You have grown over the years, according to your words below. Im sure CSL did also. No one has it all

RE: [TruthTalk] Why is it that those people who profess participation, by adoption through Christ in God's family...

2005-12-08 Thread ShieldsFamily
Lance, if you have any substantive evidence in favor of Feminism for Believers please let us know. Meanwhile please cut the personality analyses. iz PS Im the one who accused you of drive-by shooting posts. Youve done it again. All put-downs; no evidence. Hollow bullets. From:

RE: [TruthTalk] Why is it that those people who profess participation, by adoption through Christ in God's family...

2005-12-08 Thread ShieldsFamily
Lance, why dont you ask those of us who have supposedly been marginalized what we think of our station in life? Have you ever met a happy Feminist?? iz David, Christine, Judy and Linda rail against feminism, absolving the believing community of its part in

Re: [TruthTalk] Why is it that those people who profess participation, by adoption through Christ in God's family...

2005-12-08 Thread Lance Muir
Honestly, no I have not. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 08, 2005 08:53 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Why is it that those people who profess participation, by adoption through Christ in God's family...

Re: [TruthTalk] Why is it that those people who profess participation, by adoption through Christ in God's family...

2005-12-08 Thread Lance Muir
I rarely attempt to change the minds of those I deem unchangeable. No 'drive-by' here, Linda. Please illustrate, sans archives, any who have changed their mind on any issue whatsoever on TT? A substantive issue would be best but, I'll settle for somethin' teeny. - Original Message

RE: [TruthTalk] Why is it that those people who profess participation, by adoption through Christ in God's family...

2005-12-08 Thread ShieldsFamily
Bingo. (Gods plan is the only way to joy.) iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 7:56 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Why is it that those people who profess participation, by

Re: [TruthTalk]

2005-12-08 Thread knpraise
THE POINT OF MY POST IS you found the book "revolting" when, in fact, you had not read the book. Now, had you read the book , your opinion might have been the same. You have said nothing that argues this point. jd -Original Message-From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]To:

RE: [TruthTalk] Why is it that those people who profess participation, by adoption through Christ in God's family...

2005-12-08 Thread ShieldsFamily
Ive changed my mind since joining TT. I used to think like most of you do that its expected that a Christian will sin every day. Now I think thats a lie of the devil. Ive learned that Jesus not only delivered us from the Penalty of sin, but from Slavery to sin. Halleluia!!! iz

Re: [TruthTalk]

2005-12-08 Thread knpraise
Linda, if you posted to me under this heading,a few minutes agp, I can't open it. It has that little paper clip thing. jd-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 09:02:43 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] THE POINT OF MY POST IS

Re: [TruthTalk] Why is it that those people who profess participation, by adoption through Christ in God's family...

2005-12-08 Thread Lance Muir
Well that really substantive. I take it back and, humbly apologize. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 08, 2005 09:04 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Why is it that those people who profess participation, by adoption

Re: [TruthTalk] There he goes again

2005-12-08 Thread knpraise
Read your post and figure it out. "Games" is what you are all about, Kevin. The point of your web-work is to show just how harmful Lewis really is. And don't talk to me about "third requests." You have failed, literally, to answer dozens of quetion posed to you. Once again, The gamemeister in

Re: [TruthTalk] DAVE HANSEN

2005-12-08 Thread Dave Hansen
DAVEH: Yes Lance, I saw it and simply have not had enough time to respond to all the posts (including John's). The past few nights I've had conflicting activities after work, and I've not been getting enough sleep. I'll try to get caught up (sorta) tonight or tomorrow. No guarantees though!

Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject--AE

2005-12-08 Thread Dave Hansen
monkeys and horses do not have a soul. DAVEH: ??? Aren't you speculating when you make that claim, Terry? What Biblical evidence supports that theory? Terry Clifton wrote: I won't speculate, Dave, but I should point out that monkeys and horses do not have a soul.

Re: [TruthTalk] DAVE HANSEN

2005-12-08 Thread Lance Muir
Thanks Dave. Glad to hear that you took note of it. L - Original Message - From: Dave Hansen To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 08, 2005 09:42 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] DAVE HANSEN DAVEH: Yes Lance, I saw it and simply have not had enough time

Re: [TruthTalk] Putting people down

2005-12-08 Thread knpraise
Besides this particular thread, Christine, could you give me an example of a "put down" fromme to you.? I have tried to be very respectful of you because of of your relationship to David. Give me an example(s), please. jdm wrote: JD, I feel put down by you quite a bit. Not only do you

Re: [TruthTalk] What is it with this PERSONALIZE PROBLEM?

2005-12-08 Thread knpraise
yet another excuse to not answer questions. You and Kevin have this down to an art form !! -Original Message-From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 07:37:00 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] What is it with

Re: [TruthTalk] Is Judas going to Heaven?

2005-12-08 Thread knpraise
I am addressing your actions not your "caracter." -Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 04:26:19 -0800 (PST)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Is Judas going to Heaven? Again you choose to personalize? Are you attacking my

Re: [TruthTalk] Putting people down

2005-12-08 Thread Lance Muir
Ah let her whine, John. Ya know kids these days a born with a sense of entitlement! THIS IS A JOKE, DAVID/CHRISTINE! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 08, 2005 10:45 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Putting

Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE

2005-12-08 Thread Kevin Deegan
While it may be noble to want to keep one's children pure and innocent, a loving parent who overly protects their children will end up with kids acutely susceptible to the ills of the world. NONSENSE That is like saying a gardner who overprotects his PRIZE flowers from weeds and pests will

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy says:'FOR THE RECORD I DON't believe csl actually knew the Lord

2005-12-08 Thread Kevin Deegan
No one is consigning persons to Hell. Persons are responsible to God if they reject his ways He is the one that will consign them FOREVER.All the great big crocidile tears in the world will not change God's truth. There is a HELL and Most people end up going there according to Jesus

Re: [TruthTalk] WATCH BELOW AS JUDY ASSISTS LANCE IN THE ART OF INTERPRETATION

2005-12-08 Thread Kevin Deegan
Wow big demands for someone who will not put substance behind his beliefs.Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Judy said'For the record, I don't believe that C. S. Lewis actually knew the Lord'Lance, having made an incorrect leap in logic,due to a belief that Judy believed that persons

Re: [TruthTalk] ATTENTION MODERATOR(s) We do have two (2) of them don't we?

2005-12-08 Thread Kevin Deegan
Are you up to being able to separate the holy from the profane yourself Lance?Honestly Judy, just SOMETIMESLance defaults to NOLance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Honestly Judy, just SOMETIMES!Now, back to the matter at hand; IFF you are wrong concerning JRRT CSL (according

Re: [TruthTalk] Is Judas going to Heaven?

2005-12-08 Thread Kevin Deegan
Help me see MY ACTION below?IMAGINE Judas, Esau, Hitler, Jeffery Dahmler, Bin Laden, Kevin Deegan IN Heaven Some say it's easy if you try.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am addressing your actions not your "caracter."-Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] Why is it that those people who profess participation, by adoption through Christ in God's family...

2005-12-08 Thread Kevin Deegan
Go back to sleepLance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin please, what was this IDIOT, JEW comment you posted?- Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 08, 2005 08:13 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Why is it that those people who

[TruthTalk] books we MUST read???

2005-12-08 Thread ShieldsFamily
JD, when I tried to respond to your email it crashed my computer. So Im reposting on a different email from what you sent me. Our computers definitely have bad blood for each other! So according to your theory, if I peruse a book and find it to be unappealing or uninteresting then

Re: [TruthTalk] What is it with this PERSONALIZE PROBLEM?

2005-12-08 Thread Kevin Deegan
OK I am not the Oracle of truth. But I Know where to find it!JN 17:17 THY WORD IS TRUTH There he goes again! JD why don't you start up your own PT (People Talk) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yet another excuse to not answer questions. You and Kevin have this down to an art form !!

RE: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE

2005-12-08 Thread ShieldsFamily
Im so glad my grandchildren are being homeschooledthey are brighter, more socially adept (AND prettier) than the average child!!! J iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Deegan Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 10:38 AM To:

Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: sda.htm

2005-12-08 Thread Kevin Deegan
Blainerb: Like most of what you quote,your author was apparently depending on the ignorance of the reader to persuade against Joseph Smith.A BYU Professor depending on IGNORANCE? CMON Even though Mr Quinn was EX'd by his church http://www.lds-mormon.com/sepsix.shtml He still maintains his

Re: [TruthTalk] What is it with this PERSONALIZE PROBLEM?

2005-12-08 Thread Judy Taylor
I think anyone who introduces a new thing should pave the way - which is to start with themselves. My response is not an excuse for anything - what am I excused from?? On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 10:52:49 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: yet another excuse to not answer questions. You and

Re: [TruthTalk] books we MUST read???

2005-12-08 Thread knpraise
When you take time to mention that you found the book "revolting," I assume you have read the thing. My criticism still stands. I did a perusal of the book when I first opened.That first glance gave me a very different view of the book than when I actually read itvery different. But since

Re: [TruthTalk] What is it with this PERSONALIZE PROBLEM?

2005-12-08 Thread knpraise
If you cannot answer your own question by reading my post in context of the related thread,then I have no idea why you are here, on a DISCUSSION group where reading with understanding is, of course, a requirement -- albeit not arequisite one jd-Original Message-From: Judy Taylor

Re: [TruthTalk] Is Judas going to Heaven?

2005-12-08 Thread knpraise
"Help me see ..." says the blind man !!! ??? -Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 08:53:30 -0800 (PST)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Is Judas going to Heaven? Help me see MY ACTION below? IMAGINE Judas,

RE: [TruthTalk] books we MUST read???

2005-12-08 Thread ShieldsFamily
Look, Mr. Nastyman, I only said it seemed revolting to me, so I didnt read it. OKAY Is there some requirement in my life that I should have read a book that you thought was worthwhile or what??? Criticize all you want. You are quite practiced at it. At least you

Re: [TruthTalk] A tribute to Perusal knowledge

2005-12-08 Thread knpraise
Why are you forcing the obvious pretense of merriment upon the rest of uswho are eqully members of this DISCUSSION group. NOTa picture party or a pity partybut adiscussion group ??? !! The Mormon look is obvious in the fair skin and blondness of hairs, yet you have nothing but disdain

Re: [TruthTalk] books we MUST read???

2005-12-08 Thread knpraise
:-) -Original Message-From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 14:19:45 -0600Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] books we MUST read??? Look, Mr. Nastyman, I only said it "seemed revolting to me, so I didn't read it." OKAY Is there some

Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE

2005-12-08 Thread knpraise
Actually, my youngest daughter (22 years old) has told me why she has decided to NOT hoime school her children .. and itis for much of the same reason as seen in the opening line below. She told me thateach of the eight friends she had at Fresno Pacific U (who were all home schooled)

Re: [TruthTalk] Why is it that those people who profess participation, by adoption through Christ in God's family...

2005-12-08 Thread Kevin Deegan
OOPS I hit the DELETE keyLance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin please, what was this IDIOT, JEW comment you posted?- Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 08, 2005 08:13 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Why is it that those

Re: [TruthTalk] Why is it that those people who profess participation, by adoption through Christ in God's family...

2005-12-08 Thread Kevin Deegan
Dean put away the NASVLance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I rarely attempt to change the minds of those I deem unchangeable. No 'drive-by' here, Linda. Please illustrate, sans archives, any who have changed their mind on any issue whatsoever on TT? A substantive issue would be

Re: [TruthTalk] There he goes again

2005-12-08 Thread Kevin Deegan
That is fine just DO NOT SAY I CALLED CSL EVIL again or you will prove again that you are a LIAR![EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Read your post and figure it out. "Games" is what you are all about, Kevin. The point of your web-work is to show just how harmful Lewis really is. And don't talk to

Re: [TruthTalk] Is Judas going to Heaven?

2005-12-08 Thread Kevin Deegan
As usual you ignore the issues and deal with personalities. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: "Help me see ..." says the blind man !!! ??? -Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 08:53:30 -0800 (PST)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]

Re: [TruthTalk] The Triune God, Holy Scripture Interpretation - Why diverse...

2005-12-08 Thread Blainerb473
Blainerb: These are great questions, Lance, I don't usually bother, but I even took time to look up some of your words in my dictionary to be sure I understood them. :) See my comments in blue below: In a message dated 12/7/2005 5:16:02 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [TruthTalk] Is Judas going to Heaven?

2005-12-08 Thread Blainerb473
In a message dated 12/7/2005 9:15:24 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: IMAGINE Judas, Esau, Hitler, Jeffery Dahmler, Bin Laden, Kevin Deegan IN Heaven Some say it's easy if you try. Ha Ha!! Blainerb

Re: [TruthTalk] There he goes again

2005-12-08 Thread knpraise
Spoken like a true legalist. The effect of your words was topitch Lewis as evil. jd -Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 14:40:07 -0800 (PST)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] There he goes again That is fine just DO NOT

Re: [TruthTalk] The Triune God, Holy Scripture Interpretation - Why diverse...

2005-12-08 Thread knpraise
This is a great comment: I think you may not expect more than you are willing to receive, -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 18:51:34 ESTSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Triune God, Holy Scripture Interpretation - Why diverse...

Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE

2005-12-08 Thread Blainerb473
Blainerb: You seem to be forgetting how wonderful you as a daughter of God are, Judy. Without Adam and Eve's partaking of the forbidden fruit, none of us including your wonderful self wouldeven be here--Adam and Eve would just be lounging around in their perfect little paradise, never

Re: [TruthTalk] Is Judas going to Heaven?

2005-12-08 Thread knpraise
How is this different from OT days Yes we now have God's Law written on our hearts ??? jd -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 11:11:07 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Is Judas going to Heaven? How is this different

Re: [TruthTalk] Blaine Autumn equinox

2005-12-08 Thread Blainerb473
Is that what you think I said? You are joking. Or you are as usual trying to sidestep the issue; I am therefore assuming you have no answer to defendthe hoax your were quoting. Blainerb: In a message dated 12/8/2005 5:53:30 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So

Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: sda.htm

2005-12-08 Thread Blainerb473
Like the wise men of old who knew of the Messiah's birth, and where it was to happen, I study the stars, Kevin. But as with anything considered occult, there are many who prey upon the ignorance of the masses, and teach corrupt crap that originatesin their own evil imaginations. Your

Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE

2005-12-08 Thread Terry Clifton
I think you might have missed something, Blaine. There is no reason to think that Judy would not have been here if there had been no fall. The command to "Be fruitful and multiply" came prior to the fall. See Genesis 1:28. Terry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Blainerb: You seem to be

Re: [TruthTalk] Is Judas going to Heaven?

2005-12-08 Thread Judy Taylor
In OT days they did not have the Holy Spirit indwelling them, nor did they have God's Law written on their hearts. They lived in a theocracy and Moses had to gather the ppl, men, women, and children and read God's Law to them every seven years. jt On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 19:21:12 -0500 [EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject--AE

2005-12-08 Thread Terry Clifton
Genesis 2:7 ...man became a living soul. This is only said of men. No where in the Bible will you find a reference to the soul of a horse or a monkey. Animals were not made to have eternal lives any more than trees or vines. They were created for man to use, to eat, to have dominion over.

RE: [TruthTalk] A tribute to Perusal knowledge

2005-12-08 Thread ShieldsFamily
You caught me, jd. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 3:01 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A tribute to Perusal knowledge Why are you forcing the obvious

Re: [TruthTalk] There he goes again

2005-12-08 Thread Kevin Deegan
Adjusting your claims again? D"eegan puts him down as evil""The effect of your words was topitch Lewis as evil."ONE Problem, you can not get anything straight, they were not MY WORDS http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/exposes/lewis/general.htm Lewis termed himself "very Catholic" --

Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE

2005-12-08 Thread Blainerb473
Are you saying Adam and Eve were capable of having sex prior to the Fall?? What sacrilege is this?? :) Blainerb In a message dated 12/8/2005 6:48:37 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think you might have missed something, Blaine. There is no reason to think that

RE: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE

2005-12-08 Thread ShieldsFamily
I can only hope that my darling grandchildren will never blend in with those demonic creatures that attend the Government Schools. J iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 3:24 PM To:

RE: [TruthTalk] A tribute to Perusal knowledge

2005-12-08 Thread ShieldsFamily
PS I forgot to bragerr, I mean mention, that my 7 year old granddaughter has been playing the piano for the past year. Son Todd taught himself to play after graduating from the Academy, and he is teaching her to play. But they can play the daylights out of any instrument! And, boy, can the

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