In a message dated 5/15/2004 6:06:49 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
3 in 1.
You sneaky little Canadian
J
In a message dated 5/15/2004 7:54:35 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
David Miller wrote:
I don't think that I understand your implication
here. Are you saying that the presence of the
definite article in the Greek makes this "faith"
to be understood to be "teaching"? In
DavidM - glad we got this misunderstanding straightened out. My computer has been down due to the "trojan-byte" virus. A very persistent bug. I have nearly 500 posts to work through I will not try to respond to most of them -- just want to see what I missed. I do intend on replying to your post
In a message dated 4/21/2004 11:40:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
And, David, I will start with you. Repent you hypocrite before you burn in the Lake of Fire for all eternity.
In YahShua and by His Torah,
Daniel John Lee www.TorahandSpirit.com
Maybe having a computer
In a message dated 4/22/2004 12:06:50 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
invitro fertilization
I'm thinking that "Invitro" is the name of some Italian guy.
John
In a message dated 4/27/2004 8:26:09 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Daniel responds:
Oh, give me a break. You're about as obfuscating as any politician. Teaching is teaching is teaching. If I put forth a concept concerning scriptural doctrinal matters -- it's teaching. Even
In a message dated 4/27/2004 8:05:23 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Bill wrote When you insinuate that I have diminished faith or repentance, or the power of sin and death, or human depravity, David, you simply misunderstand me. These things are all real, profoundly real, in
In a message dated 4/21/2004 11:36:46 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Note that the New Living translation is just that, a translation, not a paraphrase. Do not confuse this with the Living Bible which was a paraphrase. I have listed a bunch of translations below:
Amen.
In a message dated 4/27/2004 11:58:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You said:
And, earlier in that post he writes the words "Judy Jezebel" -- proving
that he can actually rhyme and write at the same time. Daniel -- do you walk
upright while slinging the club and dragging
Cigars and scotch? Hopefully no one gets drunk. But -- preach on.
Brother John
In a message dated 4/28/2004 3:09:31 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
"Let me tell you how God redeemed the world.
On the eve of the Big Bang, over single-malt scotch and cigars, the Father,
Enough said (to me). Time for "delete." Thanks Izzy.
Grandpa John
In a message dated 4/28/2004 6:39:44 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Galatians 5:
15 But if you bite and devour one another, take care that you are not
consumed by one another.
19 Now the deeds of the
In a message dated 5/5/2004 8:10:49 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Do any of you come from this tradition? (last chapter of the book of Mark) Lance
For me, the answer is no. In fact, I am not aware of any church locally provide for such a practice -- and Fresno is kind of a
In a message dated 5/5/2004 9:03:15 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John, May I ask why? Izzy
Well, for one thing, Restoration theology is the result of a collection of hermeneutical principles that are shared and held in common. Now that is not to say that it is always
In a message dated 5/5/2004 9:24:59 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
J0HN AND I SHARE THE CHALLENGE OF MIDDLE-AGE:
THAT IS WHEN YOUR NARROW-WAIST AND BROAD-MIND EXCHANGE PLACES!!!
True.
JD
In a message dated 5/5/2004 9:37:48 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
FRANKLY, DAVID MILLER IS MY CLOSE FRIEND.
Of course he is and everyone on this list has seen the respect and love you have for the man. It kind of brings a tear to my eye. I'll be back in a few. I have to go
In a message dated 5/5/2004 10:37:52 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Judy wrote:
Anyone who is interested in hearing Holy Hubert for
free can find some messages at:
http://www.tvbn.com/index.html?http://www.tvbn.com/Frame/
Judy - I threw the baby out with the warsh water
Made my day Terry.
John
In a message dated 5/5/2004 1:09:38 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This area has been blessed with an abundance of reptiles in all shapes and sizes. Since I am a gunsmith, all the hunters know where I am. Since most hunters are also fishermen, and
In a message dated 5/5/2004 1:25:55 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
P.S. Id sure like to have a pair of your rattlesnake boots when Elsman makes me a Country-Western star on his radio station! J
- Ha. I don't know -- just had to say it.
J
In a message dated 5/5/2004 1:43:35 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
No question about my friend's fear. It was most obvious. What puzzled me was the reaction of the snake. Just striking was not too awesome, but striking with accuracy, with no head, no eyes, no brain. That was
In a message dated 5/5/2004 1:56:02 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Robert Duvall
played one recently (I can't remember the name, had to stop watching it);
he was in earnest but it was so hokey.
The Apostles, I believe.
In a message dated 5/5/2004 3:03:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
REALITY: MILLER AND ELSMAN JUST SPENT 30 MINUTES ON THE PHONE TOGETHER, NOT 5 MINUTES AGO.
YOU JUDGE IF SMITHSON KNOWS WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT.
You miss the point.
JD
In a message dated 5/5/2004 3:32:31 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Thanks David, for the explanation. The Lord sure made a diversity of
life forms, huh? I am going to start raising rabbits in an area behind
the house (the demand at present exceeds the supply), and under the
In a message dated 5/5/2004 4:11:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John, So you were raised in a Church of Christ, or in the Restoration Movement? Is the RM something like the Holy Spirit movement of the 70s or is it within the CofC ? I dont understand what it is. Izzy
C of
In a message dated 5/5/2004 6:59:17 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John, So what is it that you like about Restoration Movement theology if they are against the Baptism in the Holy Spirit? Do you miss being in that now, or are you still? Izzy
Many within the c of c are not
In a message dated 5/5/2004 7:02:18 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
If you look at the facts and resist the effect
of culture on your sensitivities, a light bulb will go off in your mind
and you will see the truth with certainty.
Sounds like the light bulb has already gone
In a message dated 5/19/2004 1:56:08 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Jonathan, Lance and John, do any of you consider yourselves to be
Universalists? How do you identify and define your idealology? Just
(really) wondering. Izzy
Business is awesome but little time to read,
In a message dated 5/20/2004 11:23:22 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'm not sure anyone can be a "genuine" Believer (in God's definition) if
they don't believe in God's promises of eternal judgment for sinners who
reject the Savior. I am assuming you do believe in this. Izzy
In a message dated 5/21/2004 10:03:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Thanks to you have prayed for our neighbor Wendy. Steven and I were able to
witness to her tonite. She asked if she could go to church with us again
tomorrow night. Please remember her in your prayers, as
In a message dated 5/24/2004 8:31:13 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John wrote:
I don't understand this observation. Doesn't the
reality of hell (whatever that is) exist apart from
our consideration? Why would God punish us for being
wrong in our understanding of eternal
In a message dated 5/24/2004 2:57:08 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
TTers, What is the most life-changing lesson that the Holy Spirit has taught you in the past five years? Izzy
What it means to be filled.
John
In a message dated 5/25/2004 8:55:50 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
He has shown me that I should realize that every trial and tribulation that He allows (not sends, necessarily, but allows) is for a purpose: (1) to test my faith, (2) to refine and strengthen me, and
Interesting commentary from DaveH and a good one, I think.
Terry, I couldn't agree with your comment more. Faith without works is dead but thinking and doing are two different things. Incidently everyone, I made no statement --- I only axed a question.
In a message dated 5/25/2004 9:29:48 AM
In a message dated 5/26/2004 3:34:30 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
TT'ers, I'll be in Valdosta, GA with the grandchildren for a week or two,
until my dau-in-law is feeling better. Keep us in your prayers and behave
while I'm gone. :-) Izzy
God bless
John
I will have to think about your explanation. Sorry I don't fire something back right away but it is my busy season (until winter, I hope) so it is 5 am to whenever and for this 59 year old guy, it is tough. I have some material on The Mediation of Christ by Torrance ( a God send and a great
In a message dated 5/26/2004 7:28:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
DAVEH: Hmwith all the conflicting beliefs as to what Jesus taught, it would seem like you are suggesting a lot of folks who think they are believers, really aren't believers and will end up being
In a message dated 5/28/2004 3:02:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Yes; and what about the 'cult/s' of 'believers' 'sanctifying' the children with belts and boards; unto 'perfection' by paddling, eh?
Morman or not, they believe this abusive madness is theological; and,
In a message dated 5/31/2004 10:17:33 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It's a 2 part issue, Gramps:
Paddling a child which is not prohibited, biblically, relative to it's whole message
'Paddling' unto perfection, in the context, below, which is a hideous human hubris,
In a message dated 5/31/2004 10:23:44 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ever think that G could have used a good spanking when he was a kid? Iz
lol
In a message dated 5/31/2004 10:32:12 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Proverbs 23: 13-14 Do not withhold correction from a child, for if you beat him with a rod, he will not die.
You shall beat him with a rid, and deliver his soul from Hell.
God
Maybe G is not talking about
In a message dated 5/31/2004 10:32:26 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
once heard the prevailing (read TT) understanding of the Atonement (see also Gibson's movie) as "Divine Child Abuse".
Another reason why I like you.
John
Me and dictionary are reading Torrence.
Bill, lance, whoever, if we are save by the faith of Jesus Christ; if salvation is ours to loose, what then are the roles of obedience to the gospel, evangelism to the "lost", in fact, are there lost. There must be because this is not the teaching of
Hats off on 10 descriptions of hell -- never put all that together before.
John Snithosn
In a message dated 6/5/2004 2:59:26 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
+++
IV The 10 descriptions of Hell are symbolic not literal
A. Physical garbage dump outside of
In a message dated 6/5/2004 7:40:11 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
JS:(yet one more spelling of your name) Just a note on reading/listening: Put the dictionary away. Read/listen all the way through for the effect of the 'package'. Thereafter begin to define/ask.
Start with
Bill,
Two brief thoughts and thanks for responding. One of our daughters lives in Colorado Spirings and attends a very large charismatic congregation (15,000 to 20,000 members). She loves it there. I have entered some brief thoughts below. I have forgotten the name.
In a message dated 6/5/2004
In a message dated 6/5/2004 9:07:12 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Bill, In my experience Jesus has not always been entirely someone I can trust in every sense of the word. Sometimes He is quite beyond any possibility of my understanding, let alone trusting Him. (Many times
To the list from one of my dearest friends.
Grace
John
A well-known speaker started off his seminar by holding up a $20.00 bill. In the room of 200, he asked, "Who would like this $20 bill?"
Hands started going up.
He said, "I am going to give this $20 to one of you but first, let me
In a message dated 6/6/2004 4:21:24 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John, Does she attend Ted Haggards church? I think it is called Life Christian Church. Ted married my son Todd and his wife Shirley in the AF Academy chapel. Ted taught Todd and several other cadets Bible
In a message dated 6/6/2004 8:57:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi John, thanks for the kind remarks. I am very happy to hear about your mother-in-law and her new-found passion for Christ.
Woodman Valley is the only church I know of in the Springs with those kind of
In a message dated 6/6/2004 9:21:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
DAVEH: John, have you invited your Mother-in-Law to join TT?
As I read your words, here, I could not help but think of the recent "conversion" of my mother-in-law and the power of the gospel message
In a message dated 6/7/2004 12:00:38 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
DAVEH: Whew...consider the logic of what you are saying, Judy. That he only wanted just a drop of water indicates it is symbolic. If you were really thirsty, would you crave a drop of water??? As for me,
In a message dated 6/7/2004 12:03:42 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Mom is not a computer type.
DAVEH: A loving son-in-law would buy her one for Christmas!!! :-)
Me thinks love goeth tooo far.
JS
In a message dated 6/7/2004 12:26:44 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
DAVEH: I don't know how much of this discussion about the symbolism of hell you have been following. Judy was wondering why I think the lake of fire depiction of hell is symbolic. Let me ask you, John..do
In a message dated 6/7/2004 7:08:27 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Sixteen years of public service to your country unequalled by many, if any.He possessed wit, charm, wisdom, jelly beans and a set of convictions he lived by when representing your nation to the world and it's
In a message dated 6/7/2004 7:24:58 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
JT: How 'bout a website hosted by y'all. People would write outlining the 'teaching' in question. Then, kind of like Ebert Roeper, (thumbs up/down) you could pronounce on it to the benefit of the world at
In a message dated 6/7/2004 7:42:45 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I take offense and find it a bit smug of you to make the comment above. It
is easy to sit in your armchair, far removed from the action, and call
someone stupid. Bush has had a tough row to hoe, and I think
In a message dated 6/7/2004 9:53:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
DAVEH: Thank you for your well thought out and expressed perspective, John. Now I have a much better idea of how you view this.
Sometimes I actually say what I mean to say. Thanks for the compliment.
In a message dated 6/7/2004 4:39:40 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
My, my, lots of political stews today. My advice: actually listen to what others think of America; it just may be true. It may be false but people flew planes into buildings to get you to realize something.
In a message dated 6/7/2004 5:40:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It would be hard to make a convincing argument that we are a Christian nation, but people do not fly planes into buildings because we are sinful or arrogant. They fly planes into buildings because they are
In a message dated 6/8/2004 9:25:33 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Izzy:Sorry, God did not put GWB into office you did.
An opinion no more inspired than Izzy's.
John
In a message dated 6/8/2004 8:17:15 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
jt: Don't be ridiculous Chris, why do you seem to revel in lies and half truths? Your Hebrew words
don't change a thing. It's another spirit Chris and I would not continue listening because it lies.
In a message dated 6/8/2004 8:31:45 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
By the way, for those of you who prayed for my neighbor Wendy: Tonight I asked her if she has yet invited Jesus into her heart as Lord and Savior. She said, Yes, I did after you told me I should. I asked him
Awesome. Thinking of women in politics for whom I have great respect, there is Nancy Reagan and John F Kennedy's wife. I am a Kennedy assassin buff - presenting movie and lectures to area schools from time to time -- and these two women rise to the top.
John
In a message dated 6/8/2004
In a message dated 6/9/2004 2:56:04 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John: Not one of my 'opinions' is inspired. They are just that, opinions. I'd always want for them to be subjected to the severest critique.
Hope you understood what I was pointing to -- that opinion is
In a message dated 6/9/2004 2:58:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Have you seen the 'new' film on the 'assassin'. Great 'indy' flick. I can't think of the actual title but, I'll get it for you if you wish.
Now you're talking. Get me a name. It is funny, but about 80% of my
Now, here with this post, I very much agree with Lance. We (the US) are not a "Christian nation." We are a nation with a whole bunch of Christians. The religious tenets that formed the foundation of our nation are, without question, being eroded. And, if the trend does not stop, there will come
In a message dated 6/9/2004 4:46:53 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Izzy and John:
You might be interested in this article.
Terry
http://www.beliefnet.com/story/147/story_14708.html -- This ties in perfectly with what I just wrote in response to one of Lance's scripts.
In a message dated 6/9/2004 5:44:34 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
If Tony Snow would be a better choice he would certainly have his own show with millions of daily listeners, as Rush does. He doesnt. Izzy
Oh, but he does. And Tony comes on at the same time -- 9 to noon. I
In a message dated 6/9/2004 5:58:38 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
One of my points to Izzy (I believe it was missed) was that in the past 4 months I have been on TT she has flitted around discussing the more superficial topics leaving the doctrinal debates for others. Then
In a message dated 6/9/2004 11:53:43 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You ended a sentence with a preposition in spite of your edumucation.
I know AND IT FELT GOOD DOING IT 11
jds
In a message dated 6/9/2004 11:41:24 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John: Not one of my 'opinions' is inspired. They are just that, opinions. I'd always want for them to be subjected to the severest critique.
Great. My here is done. Back to the job site.
David, John
I have included both Izzy and Miller's post to each other. One of the things I personally enjoy so much about this particular list is the sense of community, if not family, that so obviously exists. Hats off to Izzy for expressing what is experienced by several on this list and being able to do so
In a message dated 6/9/2004 8:12:30 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Izzy: I believe you to be approx 100% correctamundo on this point.
David/Judy (interesting combo) espouse an understanding that, though they
understand to be 'biblical', comes from a sort of 'perversion', held
In a message dated 6/9/2004 1:02:42 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
OR it could just be the next best thing to a good punch in the nose. Izzy
Easy does, girl. Peace not war. You have ruffled my feathers (yes, genuine chi chi chicken).
John
In a message dated 6/9/2004 1:16:45 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So why didnt you answer my questionI really want to hear from you that this rumor was false. Izzy
Actually I have heard the same thing from a number of pastors who insist that they know it to be true.
In a message dated 6/9/2004 4:53:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I said this:
tad bit on the arrogant side of the ledger, me thinks. You might not agree with Izzy, being Canadian and all, but her defense of country (her country, not yours) is understandable. Apparently you
In a message dated 6/9/2004 7:05:17 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It is not a rumour. It was instituted in Bill C250. This is the section in our criminal code that speaks against hate crimes/propaganda. It amended the law to add that one may not incite hatred towards someone
In a message dated 6/9/2004 10:36:27 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
"In fact"--eh?
One could calmly comment that this post sounds kinda suspicious, like it turns on the unreconcilable tautology somebody made up below.
(Perhaps you'd care to revisit, even revise it before
In a message dated 6/9/2004 10:58:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
what verse/s do/es this comment interpret?
On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 23:34:23 -0500 "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
In fact, Job himself shared [the belief that he had done
In a message dated 6/10/2004 8:07:22 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ronald Reagan: So now they think he was charming.
Exactly. They spent years saying exactly the same things about Reagan as they are now doing with Bush. What is so very good is the building confidence some
In a message dated 6/10/2004 9:16:52 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
"Interview With The Assassin" (Dallas 1963 The Second Shooter). The DVD has bonus extras.2003 Spirit Award Winner.
The manager of the video store turns out to be a mega conspiracy guy. He's going to supply
In a message dated 6/10/2004 2:52:33 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Good day Izzy,
I shall call off the dogs. I may even climb down from my high horse demanding apologies from anyone that moves. My attempts at convicting others of sin have always been failures; perhaps
In a message dated 6/10/2004 4:09:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
if you don't mind, pls compare/contrast the two 'shared' concepts, below
G
On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 02:40:31 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
In fact, Job himself || shared [the belief
In a message dated 6/10/2004 7:18:11 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
how do you think he and Luther and Billy Graham'll get along with JS, Hitler, the Pope, and Bill Clinton?
Who is JS?
JS
In a message dated 6/11/2004 3:56:38 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Yesterday JonathanH wrote:
What one can claim is that they have a proper confidence in what they teach and think. This is not absolute certainty. It avoids such pride. It refuses to confuse Gods word with
In a message dated 6/11/2004 6:08:18 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I sat in the bathtub yesterday morning and unexpectedly burst into great sobs of release. I knew that was the last loving cleaning release that I needed, and just sat there and gave in to it. It was as if the
In a message dated 6/11/2004 6:10:16 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
And, if you are really
concerned about being brief, try cutting your daily posts by about 75%.
Sometinmes civil disobedience is a proper response.
J
In a message dated 6/11/2004 7:10:21 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I shall call off the dogs. I may even climb down from my high horse demanding apologies from anyone that moves. My attempts at convicting others of sin have always been failures; perhaps the Holy Spirit
In a message dated 6/11/2004 7:54:46 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I sat in the bathtub yesterday morning and unexpectedly burst into great sobs of release. I knew that was the last loving cleaning release that I needed, and just sat there and gave in to it. It was as if the
In a message dated 6/11/2004 3:19:47 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
JS--wisely, i hope now, it's We who are under attack :)
Ditto
a brother John
Just curious -- a very quiet list this weekend. Are we still in business?
Saw the Apostles this weekend. A very interesting movie.
John
In a message dated 6/14/2004 8:42:22 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Do you mean The Apostle with Robert Duval? What did you think was the moral of the story? Izzy
moral of the story ??? I saw it as "a few days in the life." In the beginning, he was a very convoluted
In a message dated 6/14/2004 3:18:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I also saw it as an example of how even I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"very imperfect people can be used by the Lord for good. Izzy
Exactly. There are two kinds of saved people -- those who are
In a message dated 6/14/2004 3:47:54 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I saw the movie as well, but I was disturbed by it. While John saw positive aspects to it, I am the opposite. I saw how easily it is for a man (a leader with little or no accountability) to fall from grace
In a message dated 6/14/2004 7:41:04 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Maybe I dont remember the movie as well as I thought, but I thought the Duval character was already saved, but just feel into sin and then repented and felt called to become an apostle. Izzy
Was he an
In a message dated 6/14/2004 7:44:14 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Exactly. There are two kinds of saved people -- those who are described by Paul as "carnal " and those who are spiritual. Those descroptions mark the growth of each and every Christian. Do you think if one
In a message dated 6/15/2004 6:30:57 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
PS:Sad about the 'Rushmeister' isn't it?
I am one of his biggest fans but you are right -- it is discouraging to me. I no longer listen to Amy Grant for the same reason.
John
In a message dated 6/15/2004 7:02:10 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John:Disagree vehemently! God didn't stop listening to them and, neither have I.
Vehemently?! Wow. It is not a salvation issue with me. But it is a leadership issue. Leaders in the church are to be above
In a message dated 6/15/2004 9:48:14 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Just for the record. I was at a concert to support Compassion International and Amy Grant was one of the singers - (I mainly went to hear Mercy Me) She gave quite a testimony and spoke about her sin and
In a message dated 6/15/2004 11:09:39 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
How many times is the word weirdo in the Bible, Chris? Doesnt mean theres no such thing. Izzy
Interesting example. Gave me a smile.
John
In a message dated 6/15/2004 11:30:33 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Thanks for sharing your perception/experience John. I've seen too much of this in christian circles and you don't
very often hear from the one who was hurt. I used to like Amy Grant's music but have no
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