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DAVEH: Contention perhaps, such as is commonly found here?
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WHAT? That nice, positive place? iz
Great Granpa, Granpa and Grandson
(Father Son and ADAM/Michael)
Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How
do you get Father PLUS Son PLUS Holy Ghost EQUALS ONE?
DAVEH: I forgot to ask, Kevin.Would you please explain it using
the Trinity?
DAVEH: Ohhh.Kevin, I forgot
how can the
feeble efforts of man explain
Him?
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in the CREATORS of this planet
Why is Adam a creator of Earth?
Why are you to follow adam to become a God?
ELohim
Jehovah
Michael/Adam
Why is Adam a Grandson?
Great Granpa, Granpa and Grandson*
(Father Son and ADAM/Michael)
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an Emotive one!
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DAVEH: I would think anybody who understands that the argument of
using
a burning bush as evidence to prove that God is capable of creating
an
*unquenchable fire* is a bit weak if that *unquenchable fire*
(burning
bush) has been
ke this and how can the
feeble efforts of man explain
Him?
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Bless You All..!!!
Cheerio.Dave Hansen
David Miller wrote:
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TruthTalk. If any of you have felt muzzled by the no ad hominem rule,
now is your time to vent. However, I would ask that you consider that
you
Do YOU know of anyone who has read that
new biography on Joseph Smith? 'Joseph Smith - Rough Stone Rolling
DAVEH: I'm not aware of anybody locally who has read it. I belong to
Mormon-Library, and several members have it, but as yet none have
posted a personal review. Several reviews have been
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Or is Lance putting words in your mouth?
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DAVEH: Note to DavidM and other TTers. For the first time, I just
watched a half hour of Carl Baugh's TBN (Thursday nights) program about
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DAVEH: Not at all, Izzy. It is simply an observation of illogic.
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DAVEH: Contention perhaps, such as is commonly found here?
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iz
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DAVEH: Another typo, Kevin? Were you intending to send a subtle
message to the Bishop
GRIDDLE me that, Matman!
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How do you get Father PLUS Son PLUS Holy Ghost EQUALS ONE?
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DAVEH: I forgot to ask, Kevin.Would you please explain it
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the Trinity?
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God?
Father
Son
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spoken, and the devil is the preparator of it; wherefore the
final state of the souls of
men is to dwell in the kingdom of God, or to be cast out
because of that djustice of
which I have spoken.
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of Jerusalem to reflect how one who does not go to
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Then according to your own book you have been decieved
by the Devil into thinking there is No literal Hell
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church. The church brings resurrection life and righteousness and joy, just
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Subject: [TruthTalk] The gates of hell?
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that have been a typo, G..perhaps you meant.. mirth
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advertising for him, maybe even help his sales if people
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line is that one must look at whether or not any damage is done to the
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DAVEH: Hadn't thought about it, Kevin. Post a passage and let's
examine it.
Kevin Deegan wrote:
Is it figurative in the BoM too?
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NOTE
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www.umuc.edu/library/copy.html
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Responding to Kevin.It seemed to me that he posted the entire text
of each song.
Responding to KevinI think you are wrong about that. If you
wrote a book, the law would allow me to quote very small portions
Are you saying I am thoughtLESS?
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to some degree (didn't you say he's got one of your leather jackets?);
perhaps write, through
his internet site,and askhim to check out the TT archives for a
violation
( let us know what
he says:)]
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What pray tell is an EVangelical prior to 1900??
DAVEH: HmmIs this a test? If so, I should think the
answer is simple...PreVangelical.
Kevin Deegan wrote:
LOL That is FUNNY!
What pray tell is an EVangelical prior to 1900??
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Please keep off the Ad. Hom. grass so I can give the "Provoker" some
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sounded like a set up to
me? You agree DaveH?
DAVEH: Hmmm again.Sounds like
something he learned from SPers.
WHAT are you implying DH? Does this come close to a NON
BLATANT AD HOM in your eyes?
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DAVEH: Naw.It's just an observation, Kevin. Why do think it is an
ad-hom? Did you feel a twinge of guilt when
person?
Seriously; can you expound?
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in the hands of God of redeeming your fellow beings from the darkness
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You DaveH are a Pagan.
DAVEH: I respectfully disagree, Judge Dean.
To me, your above comment is a blatant ad-hom
Why is attacking your genuinely held beliefs
an attack on your person?
Seriously; can you expound?
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DAVEH: ??? You did what likewise, Lance?
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have never been attacked by a Mormon! GO FIGURE
Does that mean I do/do not/can/can not have my own personal
martyr complex as you put it?
If you want to postulate further on your false assumptions have
at it
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DAVEH: You've lost me on that, Izzy. Care to elaborate?
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DAVEH: Dean, from what you said previously about the oneness of
husband and wife, if I were
bulb
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quality is to be a male.
Dean, are
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on to seek and/or trust rests
with us. I happen to believe that God's call was to all ppl
in all generations. Abraham responded.
I expect to hear some balking from the Calvinists but this is
the understanding given to me judyt
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choose who they will serve.
along with the opportunity to grow in wisdom
and grace - or in deceit and darkness... judyt
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1Pe 1:17
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If you
cannot find such, then I will apologize to you.
DAVEH: YikesDid I really write that (yes)...I need to
reread
who falsely accuses and
then refuses to present the evidence is not tolerating sin, but rather
committing sin. Where is the fairness in that, Dean?
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their proper baptism, then Paul laid his
hands upon them and conferred the Holy Ghost.
FWIW.Jesus was baptized by John, and did
not need rebaptism.
I'm not sure what this rebaptism statement is suppose to mean. What's the
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), but
it does illustrate how God might accept a person even if the signature
did not get down on paper (they were never baptized).
David Miller.
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don't have the timenor the inclination
to do so now-but if you want to prove your innocence then
use these keywords-"DaveH" and "Fighting words"- search a couple of
years back should bring results-balls in your court play it or drop
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this even more sad is the fact that children are the ones who
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free speech has limitations. We recognize that.
DAVEH: Really! Who determines those limitations? In a theater,
governmental law determines whether one can
debaters out but they didn't stay around long:-)
Lonnie,Kevin,Ruben,and Larry Craft had a good time with their best.
Larry C. also had James White for breakfast and didn't break a
sweat:-)
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DAVEH: Hey DavidM.what's this all about??? I've not heard of it
before. Is this for real, and if sodo you think it is worth
visiting? Have you any personal experiences with it?
http://www.theholylandexperience.com/home.html
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DAVEH: H.I wonder if there are any new TT subscribers
today? And if so, I wonder what they might be thinking after reading
some of our posts! :-[
Judy Taylor wrote:
I don't think Dean is as hung up on
David's genitals as you are Bill.
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of the one baptizing him was from God. Does this properly
characterize our differences about baptism from your perspective?
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expected of the party who has entered into the
agreement. At least that's how I look at it. :-)
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sus Christ. It is a vehicle for expressing faith, the same way that an
automobile is a method of allowing gasoline or diesel to propel cars.
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es as well, and one is to provide a means of establishing faith
in Jesus Christ. It is a vehicle for expressing faith, the same way that an
automobile is a method of allowing gasoline or diesel to propel cars.
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DAVEH: Thanx for explaining this, DavidM. It does bring up another
question though. What other (other than baptism) ways do you see as
ratifying the covenant?
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As you probably know, I associate baptism with
such a covenant. How do you perceive it?
and receiving the Holy Spirit by faith, even before they had been
baptized in water.
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