Some you know as members of TT. Others have been named. And still others will remain unnamed -- people who would have no meaning to you. Not to be left out of the mix are Christ and Paul..in that order. Christ the author and finisher. Paul - the patient and courageous theologian. The
Write with special thoughts and "whats happenin" amy time.
God Bless.
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Thank you so much for the photos of your beautiful self and family. I agree with JD; our kids outdo us to the max! I cant help
Ditto Judy's comments from me
jd
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Christine, I can't see the picture - Must be my Norton spam blocker or something, is there another
way you could send it? Have really enjoyed you. Thanks for beinga blessing to
well, if you all are going to quit because I came on line -- I'll just lurk.
jd
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Ditto Judy's comments from me
jd
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Christine, I can't see
Who is Gary Olson?
-- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
LOL! So true as to be hilarious. iz
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy TaylorSent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 3:04 PMTo:
Can't make disciples without mentoring - it is impossible. Apparently you do not know this -- I'm guessing you don't do it or you wouldn't make fun of the idea.
jd
jd
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Go ye into all the world and Mentor the
Good post -- as far as it goes. What you leave out is this: they never fully arrived !!! God remained patient. Kinda like it is right now.
jd
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Truth and freedom go hand in hand, but truth will produce freedom
Since you are right about everything else, you must be right about this. Sorry I asked.
jd
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Your buddy JD, the one who sent you the baseball bat; apparently he was lucid
enough to accomplish that; the rest of
maybe God is trying to tell you something, Kevin. The "x" in the box is probably not what you had in mind.
jd
-- Original message -- From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice.
I trust you know that many are in prayer for you and yours.
John
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I do know that with a thankful heart, Iz. Lance
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Christ's mentoring is what made the 12 apostles the force they were. Let's see-- that's 12 divided by three (years) and a 100 years later , they tell me there was somewhere around 6 million Christians. But make fun of it if you will.
Part of mentoring (read:discipleship) is the giving up of
This, of course, is not the truth. You already know what I do. Now, because your memory is no longer than your brain stem means nothing to me. You ask only to cause trouble. But go tothe archives and look it up.
The bean count still belongs to the Lord.
jd
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Why can't it be the way it is written? Well - I wouldn't know the answer to that, Judy. I am talking about what is written. 26 seconds versus 144 hours is about what is written. Your little proof text has nothing to do with the topic of creation and this Genesis account.
The reason why you
I rest my case !! And a fourth post (of the morning) that is absolutely content free talk about "substance abuse !!" that is what goes on in your your posts.
jd
-- Original message -- From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Big problem JD; the "biblical
z
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Why? What do they do for you?
It's all about him, his thoughts, his opinions, the movies he sees, etc. etc.
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Amen and thank you.
John
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I was afraid this was too long,
It's not what is taught (for me and in this case) so much as it is WHO TEACHES THEM. You want the secular world to be responsible -- I don't.
jd
-- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] So, here we are, back to the fact that IF you believed
We have at leat three general patterns represented here on TT:
1. Drive-by or protest evangelism.
2. Ivory tower evangelism.
3. Mentor evangelism.
I have made my choice.
Enough said.
jd
Science is great -- but this is a good illustration of just how ridiculous even scientist can get. So it only took the Big Lizard how many millions of years to say "Good night and good luck?"
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And I
I have been aware of such musings, myself.
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as the accumulating evidence suggests,certain Words doreveal preciselymanymonotonous mutualmonolithicmusingsmangling males
On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 05:39:37 -0600
Of course. But that is not really the issue.
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So IYO it is better to have secular folk teaching untruth than truth. I see
. izzy
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Selling the old house and building the new house is precisely what does not happen in new birth. What you moved to avoid is the real analogy. I am surprised that you think differently.
jd
-- Original message -- From: "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
'Renovation of
If I can have no opinion about the creation because I wasn't there, then you are excluded for the same reason. Certainly I wasn't there, but I know how to read AND comprehend at the same time. That ability came my way shortly after learning to walk upright. When will it happen to you?
jd
Make that 5 posts.
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You JDhave rejectedsubstance unlessconformed to your liking and by then it is no longer substance but mixture.
So what would be the point??
On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 11:33:51 + [EMAIL
What's scary is that you think the solution is to have an antagonistic educator "teach" what he does not believe -- you thinking, of course, that he will do so without commentary that thoroughly negates the purpose of this compromise. In the real world, Linda, you simply cannot construct a model
With man , it is impossible but with God, it is possible. Your illustration is more to the point that we are saved by the miracle of God apart from our works.
-- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Perhaps a poor analogy. But we didnt
Judy, you are as carnal a spirited babe as I have ever known. So get off your high horse. There is a difference between defending sin and admitting to its presence.
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The old house was judged at the cross; if you
Linda -- politically, I am a rightwinger -- but who went to war for what reason? And, did you miss Lnace's good point? What kind of fit will you pitch when the Muslim population wins a court fight to teach their view of whats happening now in our schools !!??
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Me, a shotgun, five weeks, a trot line, lots of dead bluejays (their breast meat is the same as dove), all the wild mushrooms, onions, clover, young cattails (looks a bit like celery) I could eat -- watching the cute little Humming Birds bite and devour one another -- probably the meanest little
LOL we're talking serious humor. I am laughing too hard to do anything but go and put the coffee on. Back in a few.
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How long Oh David, how long?
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Here's an idea -- maybe the church could actually do its job !! You know, instead of paying the local school district to do it.
jd
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Solution: teach false theories.
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Like I said, Judy, your spirit is as carnal as any. When you get that "fixed," talk to me. You''ll still have my e-mail.
jd
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And why is it present? Not enough power emanating from the cross to get rid of it
Three kinds of evangelism present on this list.
1.. Drive-bye or protest evangelismKevin , Dean, David (often but not always)
2. Tower of power evangelism -- where the saint does her best work at home and not in the real world.
3. Mentor evangelism (Lance , Bill and others)
We
God did !! In 26 seconds OR LESS... or maybe 13.5 million.
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In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God
Who spoke the worlds into existence?
On Sat, 25 Mar 2006
Shucks !!
And, did you note that us "liberals" do not agree on everything? One is not the puppet of the other. For my money, you are the poster girl for "carnal Christian" if same includes "rebellions" as an indicator.
jd
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Where did you go to school ?
-- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Great idea, jd!!! And how about everyone who wants their child to grow up to be a son of hell should send their children to the local government schools? iz
From:
Ya got me !!
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Why is it that you only call women rebellious; and only when they disagree with you? Your masochistic roots are exposed. iz
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Our prayers are with you.
John
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Lance, our prayers are with you, with her and your family. Talk with you soon
Joanna
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I said exactly what I had in mind, Judy. A "carnal babe" is still someone made alive in Christ. "Jezebel spirit" does not define you from my perspective. It is funny, to me, that you [all] can dish it out ("unsaved, messenger boys of Satan, of the Accuser, a product of the hell you preach," and
Like I said -- and it can be proven -- you three can dish it out but you cry and whine everytime the tables are reversed. You (each of the three of you ) have judged myself, Lance, Bill, Debbie even, and G as if you were the dispenser of grace. You could not get more hypocritical.
I do not
Judy is "implicitly" a liar. Do you get the point!!
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myth (the statement of a man of God inspired by the Spirit of God employed asfeminists' rhetoric)
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Well, I certainly think you qualify as the house pro on zero.
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I knew a guy that got so bothered dealing withcult members, in frustration he said "let them go to hell" He meant it and so many today might as
Results that combine both commands, "preach the gospel" and "make disciples/"
jd
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Results? #3
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Three kinds of evangelism present on this list.
1.. Drive-bye or protest
I made the mistake of answering this line of questioning in detail, before. No point in doing it again.
jd
-- Original message -- From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tell us about some ofyour AMAZING sucess stories!
Have you discipled any other Bishops?
Who are they?
Refer to Matt 28 19ff and Mark 16:15 ff -- and stop prestending that you alone understand scripture. Your BSF buddies do not think much of your theology, that is for sure.
jd
-- Original message -- From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"preach the gospel" and "make
sent earlier -- [TruthTalk] re: pictures
They took my picture right after I found out that I had received yet another post from Judy Taylor. Note the blank look on my roughedly handsome face.
jd
-- Original message -- From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Nice looking
Left to right -- Chad - the Lawyer; Julie - Miss everything in HighSchool and worship leader at her church; Russ - worship leader , business owner -- Nancy, the youngest, worship leader and new Mom for the second time. James, the doctor son is not pictured. I raised Russ and James after the
Judy -- I do know what you believe.Let me make something clear since our time together is quickly coming to an end. "Carnal" applies to you, IMO, because of what I see as a reliance on your own brand of intellectualism. As a result, you own the most unusual collection of theological opinions I
tower power -- nothing much to report in terms of results.
Protest-evangelism -- ditto.
Mentor evangeliism -- it is the method of historical record --- how he church grew from 12 to several million within its first 100 years of life.
jd
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In the past two days, some 28 posts similar to this one in terms of content. Number 29 is only a few minutes away.
jd
-- Original message -- From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
O that is right I remember, now.
You said two door Blue[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I made
There is much about this list that I like. I remain a political conservative when it comes to the increase of states rights, free enterprise, spending within our means,
property rights, and those sort of things. Neither the Republican nor Democrate parties demonstrate values similar to mine in
Public education was first offered as an alternaive to Christian education.
jd
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No, it is not 'strange'. In most cases 'creation science' reflects neither.
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Dog-gone it all. Why do you say such things??!! Past collegues? You mean those guys you knew 18 years ago before you became a software programer?? Your teachers back in the college days of your youth?
jd
By the way, every past colleague of mine that I have argued this point, about creationist
A guy who thinks "ur mutha wears Combat (let's be sure to capitalized that word) boots" has something to say concerning [real] discussion on TT !!?? Tell me it isn't so.
jd
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Is there any doubt why there is a
I have never heard of Gary North, but I see his theology in much that has been written on TT.
jd
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Funny, I would've thought that you and Gary would be best buds.
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Yes. Look at Pat Robertson. If he were president, he would be killing heads of state he considers enemies of the [our] state.
jd
-- Original message -- From: "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You certainly have! (see Iz, Judy, Kevin David) Stage direction: The word
I believe Lance has the more accurate picture of what I was trying to convey.
jd
-- Original message -- From: "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I read his father-in-law's 'Institutes of Biblical Law' (RJR). I read some of North's books. I followed him during the Y2K
IFO can accept this self-characterization. But when your words sound like North's or Paul Hill's, they allow others to see a similarity in your thoughts as compared to the violent thinking of those named above.
jd
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Who was the violent one? Rushdooney or his son-in-law?
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/sandlin10.html
jd
-- Original message -- From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] So you learned something. He was a leader in the Dominion/Reconstruction movement I believe he was
http://www.millerformayor.ca/
http://www.starboundranch.com/
can you transfer ownership and just move on??
jd
-- Original message -- From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, it is Friday. Time to say our goodbyes. I will leave the list up through the weekend to give time for lurkers to catch up and perhaps make their final
If "it" refers to creationism , you didn't read my last paragraph. And I do believe in [my brand of ] creationism --- still don't want it taught in the secular school system.
jd
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You didnt answer the
Hats off to you , Linda, on this one. It starts with our families. We can yell and scream at each other, here on TT, but some of our decisions can damn our children. Your patience and trust in the Lord is above the call.
jd
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Excellent !
jd
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No, I wish I could be with them every day to do that, but I only get to teach them when I visit them out of state. The girls have been reading since they were four years old and are SO
My answer is Lance's. In view of that , I will interject this comment -- your alternative is not the only consideration. I do not want the secular system giving review to matters of faith. Nothing good would be accomplished -- and high school kids, by and large, do not "believe in evolution"
No one's talking about "thought police," Kev. If you want to talk like Hill and North - expect the rest of us who listen to you to think you are of the same ilk, denials not withstanding. That's all I am saying.
jd
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Mann instituted public education as an alternative to the existing private and religious system of the day. That is what I am talking about. What the Puritans did in the 1600's is NOT what I am talking about. I am telling you that public education started in Mass. as a reaction to "religious" and
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What do I believe about Genesis? Did you read any of my posts?
Sciencehas no answers to our confusion, our bondage, our need for community andan innate longing to live beyond what we see.As soon as we turn Genesis into a statement of science, we lessen its value to
:-) I shall miss these pithy responses.
jd
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After reading you, I'm inclined toward a YES!
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David, allow me this moment to reveal just a tad about the Smithmeister. Bulldogery is that which speaks of my passion. Indeed, I have gotten angry twice, here on TT, both times following one of your priceless comments . Twice in three years (going back a ways .)?!! Not bad, I think.
I am
actually, that is not true. But go with it !! Who cares.
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It goes beyond taking responsibility Judy.
You have been accussed of having the same murderous spiritas that bunch of Dominionists and Reformed
I was responding to this jewel: violent thinking is not violent action And who gets elected to be the thought police anyway?
-- Original message -- From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] If I am talking like Hill North it must be a typo or More Likely a Parity Error on
Exact - a - mundo !!
-- Original message -- From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can't makethe old man act new, anymore than you can make aMannequin dance Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There is no such thing as a "renovated" heart Lance; more misunderstanding
Sofile a claim ! Or are you afraid the judge might not see it as libel ?!!
(I am there with the humor -- have I hurt your feelings yet?)
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The Lack of understanding is just laziness of thought and lack of effort.
Just quoting your words while mocking Lance --
And your comments on "FUNDIES" have hurt me, kd
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Are you trying?
Why would my feelings be hurt?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sofile a claim ! Or are you afraid the
I am talking about what we teach in school and Judy comes back with something about"the secret things" and then Kevin, bless his little heart, comes back with something about reading the Bible --- NEW FLASH !!! ObviouslyTT as a DISCUSSION GROUP died some time ago !!
Over here , guys !! I am the
What in the hell do you think I have been talking about? You are so far off course here, as to be just plain silly. I am not a "big banger" nor do I believe that a lung fish is ancient family. In fact, I am with the growing opinion that there has not been enough time for evolution to have worked
Yet, how much time did you spend doing the same to others !!?? Give me a break.
jd
-- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gnats have injured my ego more than you and yours are capable of doing. Too bad your objectives on TT are thwarted. iz
With much debate, the Fundies destroy any opportunity to place "creationism" into the school programs for the reason stated below. Amen.
And, again, a foot in the door would only allow the warring hordes (Rad Fundies) to swarm our educational institutions and run helter skelter -- yelling and
And who is going to present these competing versions of creation -- the average Joe school teacher ?? Do you have any idea what an antagonist educator would do with such information? Actually, this "creationism in the school" thingy is really starting to sound like a bad idea !!
jd
Daivd, I have several books on my shelves written by Christian scientists proclaiming some version of theistic evolution.
Secondly,you and are both members of the fundamentalist community. If you have missed the M.O. of any number of our brethren, I haven't.
Look at Pat Robertson. A Dufus of
David !! Honestly, this is one of the sorriest posts you have ever written. First, an atheist mocks God and I am no atheist.
Secondly, the reason you are confused with what I said (144 hours of time to speak the words of creation that took only 26 seconds to actually speak) is rather simple --
Well gosh . thank you !!
I am out of the office for awhile -- but it trulyhas been fun !!
jd
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You have risen to new heights, soon to be appointed ARCHbishop, John.
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Weee, yeaahh. And your point?
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WE DON'T NEED TO BE IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM IF WE ARE DOING OUR JOB
Our Job is NOT the school system or Politics, render unto Cesear
Unless of course you are swayed by the
Hear that, Judy. Who would have believed you to be a party girl.-- jd
Lance wrote: Would you apply the word 'bias' equally to yourself and, to Judy with the same force?No, I would not.I have a bias, but it is not as strong as the bias in place when a person has the establishment behind him. The
You two guy's version of "checkmate" is really humorous.
-- Original message -- From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Back to the drawing board, he did not THINK of that.David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Lance wrote:
There are as many 'species' of creationists as
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You two guy's version of "checkmate" is really humorous.
-- Original message -- From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Back to the drawing board, he did not THINK of that.David Miller [EMAIL
Linda, I believe that de-evolution is a much stronger force than evolution. I believe that natural selection only works when a mutation creates not only the change , itself, but a population with the same mutation and a reproductive proclivity that prevents the unique from being absorbed BACK
What do I believe about Genesis? Did you read any of my posts?
Sciencehas no answers to our confusion, our bondage, our need for community andan innate longing to live beyond what we see.As soon as we turn Genesis into a statement of science, we lessen its value to the human spirit.
What do
Are you the teacher?
-- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Im so thankful that my 4 grandchildren are being homeschooled so they can be taught the Truth! Lance and jd; should it be illegal for them to be taught about Creationism at home?
And we all talk as if "David and Judy" agree on matters of critical importance. They do not. I leave TT knowing without any doubt of the discord that exists between pundents of the radical fundy side of the aisle. Their only concern is to continue the debate until the libs give up and walk away
It is a shame we will not be able to finish this thread, I suppose, but I must say something here -- the conflict (speaking for myself) is not between science and religion. It is between religion and fundamentalism (radical fundamentalism, if you will.) Knowing that the first step will not be
Go back to sleep, Judy, and the problem just might resolve itself.
jd
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Oophs! The mockers have been emboldened ...
Anarchy is at the door
On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 08:47:26 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Wed,
Do you even know what this thread is about, Judy? WHICH VIEW OF CREATIONISM GETS INTO THE CIRRICULUM -- HUH ???
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So?
There isn't a single fiew of the whole church that is agreed upon
by the whole church either.
Do you even know what this thread is about, Judy? WHICH VIEW OF CREATIONISM GOES INTO THE SCHOOL CURRICULUM -- HUH ??!! Be sure to answer with "the right one, John -- duh !!" or will that be Linda's piece of intellectual contribuation for the day?
jd
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Paul opposed the intolerant legalists in the church and so will I while, at the same time, writing the words of Romans 14. He is one of my mentors -- I will do the same.
A Rad Fundy is not defined by the words she reads but by the froth of mouth as she "evangelizes" the lost.
If the shoe
How busy are you , for the Lord, my dear southern plantation owner ?? Gave away any unwanted furniture lately? I would be careful with such criticism when one's duff is permanently shaped to her favority chair !!
jd
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Likewise, here. It will go onto the shelf next to my "Little Black Box" or something like that.
jd
-- Original message -- From: "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] I will give it a read, David.- Original Message - From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:
What's you oldest "Batman and Robin" edition?
jd
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From one book worm to another.
I read a book a week, love reading, I guess I just read the WRONG books!
I have a personallibrary room and a few
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