[tg-trunk] Re: Fwd: [tg-docs] Re: The future of TurboGears documentation

2007-06-30 Thread Paul Johnston
Hi, In terms of TurboGears code, I think TG should be setup for fairly plain SA; although you'll have to use SessionContext to get the automatic transactions. Anything on top of this - Elixir, assign_mapper, etc. should just work. But in therms of the documentation, I think we should

[tg-trunk] Re: Fwd: [tg-docs] Re: The future of TurboGears documentation

2007-06-30 Thread Paul Johnston
Hi, BTW, how difficult would it be to make CatWalk and ModelDesigner use the Elixir API only instead of SQLObject? Is this something that could be tackled for version 1.1? I'm not sure exactly, but my reckoning is: hard enough that we don't want to make a 1.1 release dependent on that.

[tg-trunk] Re: Fwd: [tg-docs] Re: The future of TurboGears documentation

2007-06-30 Thread Christopher Arndt
Paul Johnston schrieb: Hi, BTW, how difficult would it be to make CatWalk and ModelDesigner use the Elixir API only instead of SQLObject? Is this something that could be tackled for version 1.1? I'm not sure exactly, but my reckoning is: hard enough that we don't want to make a 1.1

[tg-trunk] Re: Fwd: [tg-docs] Re: The future of TurboGears documentation

2007-06-30 Thread Lee McFadden
On 6/30/07, Christopher Arndt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyway, I wish we would have an admin tool that doesn't rely on JS/AJAX so heavily or at least works without it. I feel the same way. I hate to admit it but when I explain AJAX to people who are tech savvy I use Catwalk as an example of

[tg-trunk] Re: Fwd: [tg-docs] Re: The future of TurboGears documentation

2007-06-28 Thread Neil Blakey-Milner
On 6/28/07, Mark Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd suggest moving discussion of weather 1.1/2.0 should use elixir by default to the trunk mailing list. I'll give a +1 to using Elixir. Been using it pretty heavily over the last few months, and have only run into a single problem in a

[tg-trunk] Re: Fwd: [tg-docs] Re: The future of TurboGears documentation

2007-06-28 Thread Noah Gift
+1. It is easier, and goes w/ the best of python moto. On 6/28/07, Neil Blakey-Milner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/28/07, Mark Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd suggest moving discussion of weather 1.1/2.0 should use elixir by default to the trunk mailing list. I'll give a +1 to using

[tg-trunk] Re: Fwd: [tg-docs] Re: The future of TurboGears documentation

2007-06-28 Thread Florent Aide
Hum... +0 on this. I do a _lot_ of plain SA in my work hours and I also do a lot of plain SA in TG or other for home grown projects and I would expect TG to come with plain SA by default. The SA docs are really good and the expressiveness of plain SA is sooo excellent... We can always have an

[tg-trunk] Re: Fwd: [tg-docs] Re: The future of TurboGears documentation

2007-06-28 Thread Christoph Zwerschke
Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: On 6/28/07, Mark Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd suggest moving discussion of weather 1.1/2.0 should use elixir by default to the trunk mailing list. I'll give a +1 to using Elixir. Been using it pretty heavily over the last few months, and have only run into a

[tg-trunk] Re: Fwd: [tg-docs] Re: The future of TurboGears documentation

2007-06-28 Thread Alberto Valverde
On Jun 28, 2007, at 6:11 PM, Florent Aide wrote: Hum... +0 on this. I do a _lot_ of plain SA in my work hours and I also do a lot of plain SA in TG or other for home grown projects and I would expect TG to come with plain SA by default. The SA docs are really good and the expressiveness

[tg-trunk] Re: Fwd: [tg-docs] Re: The future of TurboGears documentation

2007-06-28 Thread Jorge Vargas
On 6/28/07, Alberto Valverde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 28, 2007, at 6:11 PM, Florent Aide wrote: Hum... +0 on this. I do a _lot_ of plain SA in my work hours and I also do a lot of plain SA in TG or other for home grown projects and I would expect TG to come with plain SA by

[tg-trunk] Re: Fwd: [tg-docs] Re: The future of TurboGears documentation

2007-06-28 Thread iain duncan
On Thu, 2007-28-06 at 18:11 +0200, Florent Aide wrote: Hum... +0 on this. I do a _lot_ of plain SA in my work hours and I also do a lot of plain SA in TG or other for home grown projects and I would expect TG to come with plain SA by default. The SA docs are really good and the

[tg-trunk] Re: Fwd: [tg-docs] Re: The future of TurboGears documentation

2007-06-28 Thread Noah Gift
On 6/28/07, iain duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2007-28-06 at 18:11 +0200, Florent Aide wrote: Hum... +0 on this. I do a _lot_ of plain SA in my work hours and I also do a lot of plain SA in TG or other for home grown projects and I would expect TG to come with plain SA by

[tg-trunk] Re: Fwd: [tg-docs] Re: The future of TurboGears documentation

2007-06-28 Thread iain duncan
AFAK, Elixir defined Entities are still SA mapped classes on the inside. This means that whatever session and transaction machinery TG uses internally should cope equally well with both kind of ways to declare model objects. I see no reason, a priori, that would prevent the use

[tg-trunk] Re: Fwd: [tg-docs] Re: The future of TurboGears documentation

2007-06-28 Thread Alberto Valverde
On Jun 28, 2007, at 9:21 PM, Noah Gift wrote: On 6/28/07, iain duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2007-28-06 at 18:11 +0200, Florent Aide wrote: Hum... +0 on this. I do a _lot_ of plain SA in my work hours and I also do a lot of plain SA in TG or other for home grown

[tg-trunk] Re: Fwd: [tg-docs] Re: The future of TurboGears documentation

2007-06-28 Thread Noah Gift
On 6/28/07, Alberto Valverde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 28, 2007, at 9:21 PM, Noah Gift wrote: On 6/28/07, iain duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2007-28-06 at 18:11 +0200, Florent Aide wrote: Hum... +0 on this. I do a _lot_ of plain SA in my work hours and I also

[tg-trunk] Re: Fwd: [tg-docs] Re: The future of TurboGears documentation

2007-06-28 Thread Alberto Valverde
On Jun 28, 2007, at 9:54 PM, Mark Ramm wrote: So, what is our plan for the tool...use paster right...but what functionality do we need to add? The plan is to create some additional paster commands like: paster quickstart in much the way Fred already has in trunk. It would be great to

[tg-trunk] Re: Fwd: [tg-docs] Re: The future of TurboGears documentation

2007-06-28 Thread Ian Bicking
Alberto Valverde wrote: On Jun 28, 2007, at 9:54 PM, Mark Ramm wrote: So, what is our plan for the tool...use paster right...but what functionality do we need to add? The plan is to create some additional paster commands like: paster quickstart in much the way Fred already has in

[tg-trunk] Re: Fwd: [tg-docs] Re: The future of TurboGears documentation

2007-06-28 Thread Jorge Godoy
On Thursday 28 June 2007 11:57:17 Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: On 6/28/07, Mark Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd suggest moving discussion of weather 1.1/2.0 should use elixir by default to the trunk mailing list. I'll give a +1 to using Elixir. Been using it pretty heavily over the last