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* New upstream release:
- unity-2d-panel crashed with SIGABRT in Unity2dDebug::unity2dQtHandler()
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Yes, that's very annoying.
But well, that just reminds us that it's still an alpha version : I almost had
forgotten it...
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Yes, and that's what I warn about time ago - #46
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bug 923749 is about the responsiveness
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You waste your time with lot of experiments. This should be solved with
a simple solution and that isSCALE or SHRINK the window when
launcher appear. Milliseconds should be at 0.1. Linux is about
speed!
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- Unity needs a way to switch (tab) between windows on current workspace
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To
¿Fixed? The bug description says more responsive and less prone to
false positives. Yes, of course there aren't false positives now, but,
responsive? Now is UN-responsive :-(
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Design prototype published for launcher reveal. See updated bug
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Make Launcher left of screen reveal more responsive and less prone to
false positives. One approach to achieving this could be requiring the
user to push the pointer a certain
Im interested in how the new reveal setup prototype would work for a
touchscreen setup. No mouse.
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Hadmut, Unity will become more customizable as soon as the developers
make it more stable. That's just not possible right now with the huge
amount of work to be done. But from what you are saying, clearly what
you want is Xubuntu. It's a great spin-off, fully supported by
Canonical. Try it out.
@danillo
well a tab is not a bad idea and would be tablet/finger friendly too.
not sure if it has to overlap apps. Maybe it could have it's own
vertical space on the side (as suggested on comment #9; which would also
serve to show where the alerts generated) and the tab could be more
compact and
would also add that having a visible cue like a tab makes it more
intuitive.
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@Danillo:
You mean they've tried to force their users into unity before it was
stable?
Actually I am already using Xubuntu (or to be more precise a regular
ubuntu with post-installed xfce) on some of my computers, e.g. the one
where I am writing this comment right now.
XFCE is currently better
Hey, we just could stop the rants? I really don't fancy that shit in my
inbox. This bug report has enough comments IMO
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@hadmut
the global menu problem is another bug entirely:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/682788
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@manny:
Sure, it's another bug. But caused by the same reason, which is trying
to force users into a particular (but poor) desktop design.
So fixing the bugs involves identifying and solving that general
problem.
They won't fix the bug by just playing around with details like timing
and
@Nathan: This is not a „final solution” for a simple reason and design
problem:
The basic idea of the launch bar is the ability to hide to allow an
application window to occupy the whole screen (which is in principle a
good idea), while still beeing usable and responsible through mouse
events.
Gnome 3 has resolved this with a simple solution. Every time the
launcher appears, the windows go scaled. It could be even simpler to
somehow shrink the window like Firefox does when new tab is opened.
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One easy change that seems to largely fix the problem for me is to
increase the Edge Reveal Timeout to 1000 (one second). This pretty
much eliminates Unity jumping open when I don't want it, at the price of
a small, occasional wait.
The main bad thing about this is that it's poor user interface
I think I have an idea. What about this:
1. Reveal Launcher after standard time
2. If mouse cursor leaves the launcher before timeout (for example - one
second), hide the launcher immediately.
3. If mouse cursor stays for longer than timeout, use current behaviour
(launcher hides after
reveal launcher only if mouse is over the launcher area _and_ window
button is pressed at the same time...
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Nine out of ten people are impressed of their iPhones and Androids
because of responsive desktop. so playing with milliseconds is a quite
sensitive issue.
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Pako, I agree
what im trying to state is this;
1. Each user will utilize their desktop differently obviously, so the
false positives is a subjective description dependent on each users
desktop usage. IE. doing away with false positives (in regards to the
launch bar) entirely in theory is not
@Nathan: No. Definitely not.
The main and major mistake of unity, which your proposal does not solve,
is to force the user into a particular desktop and working style without
leaving any options, without allowing to configure to your local needs
and taste. Unfortunately, this enforced style does
I feel that Unity 2D's launcher gives me less false positives, but it
could just be a false impression since I don't know if its behavior
really is different from Unity 3D's. If it is, starting by making 3D's
behavior more like 2D's would be great.
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I have thought about this long and hard, and have come to the
realization that in addition to any changes to attempt to address this
issue, that the ability to move and scale the launch bar is the most
important aspect as it gives a final solution to any issues we may be
unable to solve for false
Please keep in mind that this is not just a problem of particular
programs like Firefox or Chrome. E.g. when using a regular terminal in
full screen mode, it is impossible to mark lines for copy/paste if you
want to mark them from the leftmost column.
I never understood what sense this unity
Please keep in mind that this is not just a problem of particular
programs like Firefox or Chrome. E.g. when using a regular terminal in
full screen mode, it is impossible to mark lines for copy/paste if you
want to mark them from the leftmost column.
i agree.
A simple solution might be to move
This is a highly annoying bug, I am darn near ready to remove the unity
desktop because of it.
In Chromium/Chrome you cannot move the back button so you are really
stuck, it is now my default browser.
I think a much more simple fix would be to allow moving the launcher bar
to the right side of
False positives is also the most annoying behaviour for me. There were
some comments about moving the home button to the lefmost side, but i
doubt Chrome developers change their original button layout (which is
perfectly fine) to fix Canonical stubbornness.
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too bad no one payed attention to my mockup in comment #9
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/765819/comments/9
needs updating and some tweaking but something like that would help with
the false positives a lot no matter where you encounter the problem
vertically (not just the top
@estelar57 Yes, too bad :(. If i'm not wrong, OSX takes a similar
approach to avoid false positives, adding 2 o 3 pixels between the
application and leftmost border (when the launcher is moved to the left
side).
Hope someone takes into account your mockup.
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I actually tested it (in a partial manner) with my dad and some friends
(my guinea pigs ;)). I un-maximize a window, stretch it and place it 6 o
7 pixels away from the left border. I noticed the times they stumbled
with launcher were reduced and the times the launcher appeared they
became
I think the false positives are really a critical problem for Unity. I
would be glad if someone within the Unity team would shed light about
plans to fix this in 12.04. Changing the layout of buttons is wrong. Not
only because Canonical doesn't control Chrome development, but because
you have to
Of course the fourth solution is a movable launcher. But that has a
discusion of his own (Bug #668415) with over 260 comments and counting.
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Some people talked about the upper-left corner. I made a suggestion sort
of related to this in bug #887142.
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In my opinion upper-left corner invocation is slow and non-natural.
There are best solutions.
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Personally I set the unity icon size to 32px and the launcher to never
hide, I lose a few horizontal pixels, but it is much easier to use
without the launcher popping in and out every time I want to use
something on the left side of an application. I am unconvinced that an
autohiding launcher is
@alanbell
yea sometimes i would like to toggle the visibility options quickly when
working, kinda how you can on mac osx:
http://i.ehow.co.uk/images/a04/9m/bu/mac-os-x-dock-features-800x800.jpg
but most of the time i prefer it out of the way.
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ah yea the options are also on the dock itself:
http://assets.gcflearnfree.org/topics/202/dock_options.jpg
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This issue when posted on reddit in a thread named Why Unity is
Annoying, got 373 upvotes in 18 hours.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/ngvx3/why_unity_is_annoying/
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I proposed an alternative here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/899782
Although most related bugs are about firefox, I think my proposal is
more generic, however it might not be needed, or easy to implement. Just
my 2 cents.
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To manage
It also affects me. When I try to click on the previous page button in Firefox.
To often it makes the launcher to show up and i have to wait until it hides
again before i can reach the utton again.
Possible solutions: Change buttonslayout. Put the adress bar on the far
left and place the
Although then people would accidentally trigger it while trying to hit
the close button.
I note that that region of the left edge of the screen no longer
triggers the launcher. Maybe this unresponsive area could be extended an
inch down or so? At least while a web browser (or full-screen app) is
Changing the Firefox layout would interfere with muscle memory, just to
accomodate an Ubuntu bug. And doing so wouldn't solve the problem for
Chromium, Epiphany, Midori, or Opera users.
I personally like GNOME Shell's solution of making the upper-left corner
the trigger. It doesn't seem as
On 16/11/11 19:25, Bart Broeckx wrote:
Possible solutions: Change buttonslayout. Put the adress bar on the far
left and place the previous and next page button between the adressbar
and the Google search bar.
Yes, I think that's useful. Let's put the Home button far left, then the
arrows,
On 16/11/11 19:35, Feathertail wrote:
[Supporting top-left-corner reveal of launcher]...Although then people would
accidentally trigger it while trying to hit
the close button.
Yes, but having the launcher visible then isn't a problem, as you will
inevitably move the mouse away and either
@Mark: Later versions of Firefox will very likely not have the search
bar at all (I believe they intend on integrating the two a la chrome).
This would essentially put the navigation arrows all the way on the
right.
Now, this WOULD make it consistent with nautilus' button positioning.
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My opinion of Unity is fairly low because this bug overshadows the few
aspects of Unity that I actually like.
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I was thinking of changes to the default button layouts, not the
function of unity itself when i reported this bug (which was
subsequently marked as a duplicate). For example in Firefox the bookmark
button is hidden for the Global Menu, so i was thinking that the
back/forward buttons and other
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While not exactly the solution to the responsiveness of the launcher, I
propose to add some sort of (configurable) set-up time for the launcher to
stay hidden, just like there is a hold time for it to stay revealed after
moving outside the border.
That means that right after revealing the
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probably a stacking problem again, so unrelated...
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In latest Oneiric, launcher doesn't show at all unless I press the super
(aka windows) key...
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Assignee: Marco Trevisan (Treviño) (3v1n0) = (unassigned)
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well i did made a mockup long ago to stop the false positives, as well
as to let the user know where the alerts from the launcher are all the
time (even multiple alerts) after the icon wobble.
is a simple, easy to implement solution and hardly noticeable.
the only difference now is that there's
Since Unity is currently on Oneric really buggy, I'm using Unity 2D and
noticed that the launcher's behaviour is a lot better here than the 3d
version.
I get very rarely false positives. When hitting the back button on
chrome/firefox, no launcher reveals.
So, can't you just implement the same
Allowing us to configure auto-hiding behavior of unity would also help.
If it's open all the time, there's no problems triggering it
accidentally.
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@Jason, John: how would the sustained pressure against the left side of
the screen be measured?
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This a huge Fitts' Law because of how close the Back and Close Search
buttons of Firefox are to the launcher.
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@Marco, further to our conversation the other day reverting bug to
Confirmed.
Short description:
Reverted this bug to Confirmed, as the patch submitted does not match
the solution agreed with Jason for triggering the reveal based on
sustained pressure against the left side of the screen (as an
less prone to false positives
This part have not been fixed even feels it have got worse with the recent
release as the default responsiveness value of the launcher have increased
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This bug was fixed in the package unity - 4.6.0-0ubuntu1
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* New upstream release.
- compiz crashed with SIGSEGV in __strlen_sse2() (LP: #814619)
- PlacesHomeView::PlacesHomeView leaks memory (LP: #818450)
-
** Changed in: unity
Assignee: Jason Smith (jassmith) = Treviño (Marco Trevisan) (3v1n0)
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Status: Triaged = In Progress
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Pushing the pointer a certain distance *past* the left edge of the
screen to reveal the launcher can't be done currently since in X a mouse
pointer can just be inside the screen, and since the mouse pointer
generally is made with a left-pointing arrow and its top-left angle is
the real pointing
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