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A. Eibach, has unclutter improved at all on the reasons it was removed
from the default install before (described in my 2010-06-17 comment)?
I suspect that an external utility will always be too slow, Ubuntu has
so many toolkits that trying to fix it there will always be a game of
whack-a-mole,
No 'unclutter' here on Lubuntu Utopic (beta; default). Had to install it
manually. Considering the age of this bug, and that even Mr. Ubuntu
himself has replied here, this should have been included in the default
distro long ago??
Anyways, this is not why I chose to comment here as well.
A good
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Reopening paper cut task as part of a review of closed paper cuts.
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I really dislike it when my mouse disappears, I like to know where it is
if I have to pick it up while writing. For example, while writing this
comment I could have the need to check my email or IRC. I do feel it'd
be great as an option though.
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Edition.
Firefox is part of the default installation.
On the other hand, this fails on the trivially fixable part.
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From https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PaperCut:
A paper cut is a trivially fixable usability bug that the average user
would encounter in default installation of Ubuntu or Kubuntu Desktop
Edition.
I know, and I considered that.
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Can anyone please confirm if this is still an issue in 12.10, and if so,
does anyone know how easy it will be to fix?
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Ubuntu 12.10
Gedit, Ubuntu Software Center (GTK3): the mouse pointer gets hidden when I
start typing.
Firefox, OpenOffice (GTK2): the mouse pointer remains on screen when I start
typing, even if the cursor is right above the typed text.
Seems that currently its a GTK2 problem only. Firefox is
Actually, GTK3 is the only library having it fixed.
Also some GTK2 apps might have had it fixed (cursor over text input
box and similar).
(almost) Everything else (like non GTK apps) still has this problem.
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The feature of the hiding cursor could is there, you only have to
install the software unclutter and start it with every start of you're
Unity via startprograms.
Installation: sudo apt-get install unclutter
I added a video to my comment, showing that unclutter hides the mouse
cursor,
I disagree. I often have trouble with the cursor disappearing - not
right now, but other times - when I'm typing in Firefox. I also had
trouble with the cursor jumping about because of the malfunctioning Alps
touchpad. So the cursor would jump and change the insertion point for
new text, etc. and
It seems you are talking about the text cursor, while this bug is about
the mouse pointer (also called cursor).
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I'm out of the office until 1st August.
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Situation same in Ubuntu 11.04...
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Changing to low that's a wishlist in theory, unclutter doesn't work
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Martin, see my 2005-05-09 comment. If it was enough, I wouldn't have
reported the bug in the first place. :-)
Whoever added unclutter to the default seed, can they please remove it?
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This is unusable here. After the last round of updates and a restart,
when hovering a gtk app (like xchat or gwibber), the cursor starts to
flicker like hell and the cpu sky rockets (Xorg, metacity and the given
app).
Also, on non-gtk apps (like a regular xterm), the cursor completely
disappears,
I am on lucid, without unclutter, and in gedit, gnome-terminal etc. the
mouse already disappears when I start typing. Shouldn't that be enough?
It seems unclutter introduces quite a bunch of bugs (flickering, extra
CPU usage, etc.)
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Regarding comment 39, the workaround in bug 385034 helped me.
That said, the whole thing seems rather unpolished.
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Why are we trying to work around this with unclutter? why not fix this in gtk+ ?
gtk+ already does this for entries and text views.
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@mpt
Good compromise between actual situation (mouse pointer always visible ) and
solution proposed in this bug report (mouse pointer should disappear when
typing, reading and all cases where mouse pointer is useless).
I'm using unclutter on lucid lynx from two weeks and I think that is very
neuromancer, a good compromise between what? unclutter's behavior is
worse than both the status quo and the behavior I specified.
Greg, thanks for the hint, but I just tested unclutter -keystroke and
it seems to have no effect at all. (For example, the cursor does not
hide when typing this bug
Matthew Paul Thomas:
To solve the GIMP-issue you experience you can use the -not switch,
which could exclude GIMP from unclutters handling.
As for your two other examples you're right that there is no way to
decide the timeout value within every specific program or in the
detailed manner you
mpt, sound like you're running unclutter without the -keystroke switch.
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I've also tried unclutter and for me it's a good compromise.
1) in open office cursor disappear nearly immediately (between 1 or 2 seconds)
and this is very very comfortable when typing. If you move the mouse or change
current application (with alt+tab switcher or something
Was that the timeout trigger?
I agree that it is less intuitive.
Last time I tried unclutter, the trigger by keystroke did not work. That
way is more intuitive and already used by some code (parts). Like the
gnome terminal, and some (GTK+) text fields, IIRC.
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unclutter makes me feel better, since it remedies the main problem of visual
obfuscation.
As little as the problem may be, it is gone, not perfectly, not consistently,
not even natively patched, but as a user i already can say thanks.
i'd suggest to put some effort into WM-based solutions. No,
I have just tested unclutter, and my recommendation is that it *not* be
included in the default install or session. It does not solve the
problem, and it introduces new problems.
Example 1: With unclutter running, click in an OpenOffice.org or AbiWord
document, and start typing. The cursor should
being using it since yesterday I find the behaviour rather confusing as
well, the change gives you the feeling that something has happened
without clear indication of what and why, not having the cursor
displayed after some second during mouse work or reading also slow next
actions because you
Why is the mouse pointer so important while you type text?
Besides, it will appear the moment you touch the mouse.
Additional ideas, for v2.0 ;)
- use a fade-in , fade-out effect instead of instant (dis/re)appearance
- related to above comment: do not make pointer disappear completely, but
Unclutter seems like the cleanest approach to solving this. I'll request
that the desktop team consider it for MIR and the CD.
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I don't think that hiding a pointer when it does not disturb your vision
is a good idea. For example now I am typing in this field and I find
it's quite an advantage to see where the pointer actually is. At least
hiding shouldn't be default behavior, people who really need this
functionality will
Maverick brings hope for mpt ;-) [
https://lists.launchpad.net/ayatana/msg02831.html ]
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ubuntu mouse settings, then that isn't a papercut. Read the page on
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The patch is not in working order. It is just a rough idea, and perhaps
I should remove it from here. Unclutter (from comment #20) seems like it
would work for all programs, although I just installed it and it didn't
make my cursor disappear when running unclutter -keyword. The best
thing to do
I'm unsubscribing reviewers for now. I'll talk to one of the devs about
unclutter. Thank you for taking the time to submit a patch. If at a
later time you decide to give it another go and want a review, feel free
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Why not rely on Unclutter to do this? I've been using it for months and
it works flawlessly.
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I had a look at this today, scrolling through pages of gtk gdk stuff.
I have tried coding up a potential solution, and the preliminary patch
is attached. Please note, it is just an experiment, and has not been
tested in any way, it was just to see where I could solve the problem.
I think that it
IMO this should be done much higher than that (or lower, depends on the
viewpoint).
What about all the non GTK/GDK apps?
But the patch is a good start.
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Hm... i never saw my cursor dissappearing, but now i look closly at my
Cursor: Sometimes he dissapears, sometimes not.
In GTK:
Cursor dissapears if you type into a Textbox AND the cursor is over the Textbox
Cursor won't dissapear if you use type-away search in list (type the file you
are
I just wanted to throw mine in:
It's certainly not something that bothers me to the point of aggression,
however these types of things seem to be the point of the hundredpapercuts
project anyway. Nothing terrible, just something that would make usability even
more hassle free.
I especially
mpt wrote:
But won't this make people lose the pointer?
* No. For human eyes, such a small object is much easier to find by movement
than by searching the entire screen. As soon as they grab the mouse again, the
pointer will appear, and they'll see where it is.
Very interesting... I'v used
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Just noting it is same in Ubuntu 9.04...
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Why is this marked fixed ?
Nothing has been changed since the report.
And the upstream is not marked as fixed either.
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I just did some file browsing with the latest Feisty beta, using the keyboard.
Then, I had to reach for the mouse to move the pointer out of the way, becasue
it was covering the name of the file...
Besides, this is not GNOME specific. Not all apps are GNOME/GTK+.
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The bug has been marked fixed upstream with that comment:
GTK+ does this for entries and text views. I don't think it is really needed
anywhere else.
Marking the distribution task fixed, feel free to argue upstream if you
want
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The solution :
unclutter - hides the cursor in X after a period of inactivity
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