Re: Ubuntu Software Store: What it does, and how you can help

2009-09-26 Thread Matthew East
Just to report progress on this discussion - sabdfl has decided to adopt the name Software Center. The comments on this thread were very helpful, as were the forum [1] and brainstorm [2] discussions/votes which showed pretty clear opinions among the community. If interested you can track the

Re: Ubuntu Software Store: What it does, and how you can help

2009-09-26 Thread Iain Lane
Greetings, On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 10:45:55AM +0100, Matthew East wrote: On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Iain Lane la...@ubuntu.com wrote: Cool. Glad to see that community input is listened to. What does this mean for the store metaphor throughout the rest of the application? I don't think

Re: Ubuntu Software Store: What it does, and how you can help

2009-09-15 Thread Scott Ritchie
Steve Langasek wrote: On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 04:14:44PM +0100, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: It would be cool if Debian and Ubuntu packagers could work together to address this in the Packages.gz format. I think this is unlikely to wind up in the Packages file in Debian over concerns about

Re: Ubuntu Software Store: What it does, and how you can help

2009-09-11 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 04:14:44PM +0100, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: It would be cool if Debian and Ubuntu packagers could work together to address this in the Packages.gz format. I think this is unlikely to wind up in the Packages file in Debian over concerns about increasing the size of this

Re: Ubuntu Software Store: What it does, and how you can help

2009-09-10 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dylan McCall wrote on 01/09/09 18:15: ... I'm a bit concerned about using price to distinguish things here. The price: free thing is flawed, because it furthers the misconception that free software is only free in price, when in fact being free in

Re: Ubuntu Software Store: What it does, and how you can help

2009-09-01 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greg Grossmeier wrote on 28/08/09 14:56: ... Just double checking that I understand this part correctly: we're going to have a line in every single software package description in all of the Ubuntu repositories that says Price: Free? EDIT: Just

Re: Ubuntu Software Store: What it does, and how you can help

2009-09-01 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Fri, 2009-08-28 at 11:07 +0100, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: The nifty thing about store is that it has those two meanings -- shop, and repository I don't agree. Store primarily means a place where you *purchase* things. The secondary meaning of a repository implies that it's somewhere

Re: Ubuntu Software Store: What it does, and how you can help

2009-09-01 Thread mac_v
On Tue, 2009-09-01 at 17:04 +0200, Siegfried Gevatter wrote: I have to add my voice in that I strongly dislike the name containing Store, for the already echoed reasons. Software Center or even Add/Remove... are much better names, IMHO. How about Software Zone or Ubuntu Zone... ;) I think

Re: Ubuntu Software Store: What it does, and how you can help

2009-09-01 Thread Bryce Harrington
On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 10:16:20AM -0700, ajmctaggart wrote: I definitely agree Bazaar could be confused with bzr,...But it is a word that seems to align well with Ubuntu and the goals, etc...maybe we just need It does align nicely, although I think it'd be a strange name for anyone not

Re: Ubuntu Software Store: What it does, and how you can help

2009-09-01 Thread Bryce Harrington
On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 09:19:27PM +0530, mac_v wrote: On Tue, 2009-09-01 at 17:04 +0200, Siegfried Gevatter wrote: I have to add my voice in that I strongly dislike the name containing Store, for the already echoed reasons. Software Center or even Add/Remove... are much better names, IMHO.

Re: Ubuntu Software Store: What it does, and how you can help

2009-09-01 Thread Bryce Harrington
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 8:16 AM, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: _like_ Package Bazar. Given we already have a concept of 'packages' On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 08:42:41AM -0700, ajmctaggart wrote: post, or bazzar? So what evokes this idea of a trading post or a bazaar in Given that this word

Re: Ubuntu Software Store: What it does, and how you can help

2009-09-01 Thread Milan Bouchet-Valat
Le mardi 01 septembre 2009 à 10:15 -0700, Dylan McCall a écrit : snip I'm a bit concerned about using price to distinguish things here. The price: free thing is flawed, because it furthers the misconception that free software is only free in price, when in fact being free in price is quite

Re: Ubuntu Software Store: What it does, and how you can help

2009-08-30 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Loïc Martin wrote on 28/08/09 12:20: ... We all seem to be copying the App Store from Apple (nothing wrong with that), but perhaps the part we should change isn't so much the first part in App Store, but the second one? After all, both provide the

Re: Ubuntu Software Store: What it does, and how you can help

2009-08-30 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
My vote is for Software Center. Pros and cons: + Software is more general in meaning (more than just apps) and it seems to be the the most used term and already the term chosen at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareStore. + Some lawers could also claim that AppCenter is too close to Apple's

Re: Ubuntu Software Store: What it does, and how you can help

2009-08-28 Thread Matthew East
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:28 PM, Danny Piccirillodanny.picciri...@gmail.com wrote: So does this mean no packagekit? I knew plans for it in karmic had been dropped but this appcenter will replace Add/Remove instead? Would it be possible and/or worth it to base it on packagekit? Danny, as per

Re: Ubuntu Software Store: What it does, and how you can help

2009-08-28 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matthew East wrote on 28/08/09 07:47: On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:28 PM, Danny Piccirillodanny.picciri...@gmail.com wrote: So does this mean no packagekit? I knew plans for it in karmic had been dropped but this appcenter will replace Add/Remove

Re: Ubuntu Software Store: What it does, and how you can help

2009-08-28 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matthew East wrote on 27/08/09 20:20: On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Przemek Kulczyckiprzemekkulczy...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:31 PM, Matthew Eastm...@ubuntu.com wrote: ... Now, AppCenter has a brand name: the Ubuntu

Re: Ubuntu Software Store: What it does, and how you can help

2009-08-28 Thread Matthew East
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Matthew Paul Thomasm...@canonical.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matthew East wrote on 27/08/09 20:20: On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Przemek Kulczyckiprzemekkulczy...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:31 PM, Matthew

Re: Ubuntu Software Store: What it does, and how you can help

2009-08-28 Thread mac_v
On Fri, 2009-08-28 at 11:07 +0100, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: I can see from the spec (and LP answer 81103) that it will be possible to purchase software from this app in the future, but it will also be possible to get software for free there, and for that reason I think a neutral name

Re: Ubuntu Software Store: What it does, and how you can help

2009-08-28 Thread Matthew East
(Adding ubuntu-desktop back to cc) On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Mackenzie Morganmaco...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday 28 August 2009 6:44:30 am Matthew East wrote: I saw that, but the problem is that people will not open the app in the first place. I saw the name Ubuntu Software Store before

Re: Ubuntu Software Store: What it does, and how you can help

2009-08-28 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matthew East wrote on 28/08/09 11:44: On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Matthew Paul Thomas m...@canonical.com wrote: ... Center was unfortunately off-limits because it lacks cross-Atlantic compatibility, i.e. it differs in US English vs.

Re: Ubuntu Software Store: What it does, and how you can help

2009-08-28 Thread Matthew East
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Matthew Paul Thomasm...@canonical.com wrote: Matthew East wrote on 28/08/09 11:44: On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Matthew Paul Thomas m...@canonical.com wrote: ... Center was unfortunately off-limits because it lacks cross-Atlantic compatibility, i.e. it

Re: Ubuntu Software Store: What it does, and how you can help

2009-08-27 Thread Matthew East
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Przemek Kulczyckiprzemekkulczy...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:31 PM, Matthew Eastm...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hi Matthew, On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Matthew Paul Thomasm...@canonical.com wrote: Now, AppCenter has a brand name: the Ubuntu