Christopher Chan wrote:
These are about 'standards'. Can there really be a technical argument
between using say the metric system versus the foot/yard or the ounce/pound?
Yes:
1) state your technical requirements
2) state the relevant properties of each standard
3) argue about which
Derek Broughton wrote:
Vincenzo Ciancia wrote:
Il giorno sab, 06/06/2009 alle 23.55 -0400, Martin Owens ha scritto:
Is it? I didn't think is was the port that defined the protocol but
the
nature of the messages sent over the connection. The port is a default
but not a requirement,
Il giorno lun, 08/06/2009 alle 20.50 -0300, Derek Broughton ha scritto:
That's not an argument, it's a complete misdirection. Are you really
just
fink using different nym?
Professional trolling here at work. Do the communist have to do with the
plan? Just to know on what side I want to
You're welcome David, anytime you want to set yourself up for that go for
it. I can't promise I'll be here to hand your ass to you after you've so
carelessly lost track of it, unfortunately.
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 10:36 PM, David Schlesinger
david.schlesin...@access-company.com wrote:
I want
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Nagy Viktor viktor.n...@gmail.com wrote:
hi,
I would like to see a recent maxima/wxmaxima version to be added to a
(still open) repo
the latest maxima version is 5.17: http://maxima.sourceforge.net/
the latest in ANY of the repos is 5.13
It looks like no one responded to the concern raised below. It makes
sense to me that all applications should be identified by their name as
well as their function in gnome GUI menus. Furthermore, not doing so
frequently increases confusion for naive users. For example, due to
ongoing bugs
Hello,
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 16:50, Patrick Goetzpgo...@mail.utexas.edu wrote:
I'm not sure what the answer is at the moment, but a no-brainer
choice is to clearly identify WHAT application is being invoked from the
menu.
I agree. Displaying a Document Viewer (evince) or Document Viewer /
Patrick,
What a great line!!! Umm... shoot the GUI?? (my command-line response).
Thanks for the smile.
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 8:50 AM, Patrick Goetzpgo...@mail.utexas.edu wrote:
When the command line is more user friendly than the GUI, this should
set off those little alarm bells that
Given that my signal to noise ratio is already at a white noise breaking
point (and that I'm probably not alone here), can we please keep these
kinds of tit-for-tat arguments, rhetoric, ad hominem attacks, and
flirting off the devel-discuss list? Surely facebook, twitter, digg,
etc. should
On Tue, Jun 09, 2009 at 09:50:26AM -0500, Patrick Goetz wrote:
It makes sense to me that all applications should be identified by
their name as well as their function in gnome GUI menus.
I disagree. I /love/ the fact that our menu's aren't full of meaningless
names of applications. In fact,
Hello Soren,
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 17:45, Soren Hansenso...@ubuntu.com wrote:
You think Evince is more helpful than Document Viewer? How so?
I personally think we should keep both, e.g. Document Viewer
(Evince). Why not have an inclusive view instead of an exclusive one?
The exact
Scott James Remnant wrote:
Why should Ubuntu actively prevent a developer from writing software in
C# if they wish? That software may not even be intended to be shipped
in Ubuntu, what if they want to use Ubuntu as the basis for an
application that happens to be written in C#? Do you
Olá Sitsofe e a todos.
On Friday 15 May 2009 12:14:31 Sitsofe Wheeler wrote:
That's reasonable too but w3m is installed by default and if it's used by so
few
perhaps it shouldn't be there by default - it strikes me as unsafe to be
putting
packages that can't be supported on people's
I want to thank Paige for taking advantage of my out of the office
advisory to share her generally childish behavior with my manager, off-
list. We had a good laugh over that one, thanks. No jobs available for
you right now, Paige, sorry, but feel free to send a resume when you
get to be
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Soren Hansenso...@ubuntu.com wrote:
On Tue, Jun 09, 2009 at 09:50:26AM -0500, Patrick Goetz wrote:
snip
No one knows to look for Document Viewer
If you put yourself in the place of someone who is not used to Linux:
You have a document you want to open (and for
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 11:45 PM, André Pirarda.pir...@ulg.ac.be wrote:
Similarly, the swap partition should be a Linux file.
This frees the user from swap considerations and opens Linux to dynamic swap
size.
There was a blueprint to discuss at UDS:
Il giorno mar, 09/06/2009 alle 09.48 -0400, Mark Fink ha scritto:
that's a LOT of bloat
also programs like Gnote are GPL3 so you are protected from patents
Come on this is the only fair criticism that I have seen until now; I
think we still don't ship timidity fonts and have broken midi
Il giorno mar, 09/06/2009 alle 12.14 -0400, Christopher Olah ha scritto:
It appears to me that the most important point has been forgotten: the
accusations of censorship. This, if true, is very alarming...
We can bicker over Mono all we like, but if people are being censored,
like the OP
Il giorno mar, 09/06/2009 alle 16.55 +0200, David MENTRE ha scritto:
I agree. Displaying a Document Viewer (evince) or Document Viewer /
evince would be a big plus.
Yes also because this is needed when talking to ordinary non-technical
users e.g. my mother on the phone I could not see the
Ubuntu is a centralised entity. No external person can control e.g. why
we have a custom search in the home page of firefox by default. People
who can't tell the difference will keep using a different google, but
there is not even way to get some discussion around this (I tried in the
past).
On 06/08/2009 05:45 PM, André Pirard wrote:
On 2009-06-08 23:32, Colin Watson wrote :
As of tomorrow's daily builds (assuming they build successfully,
anyway), GRUB 2 will be the default boot loader for new installations,
pursuant to the grub2-as-default discussion at UDS.
GRUB should be
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Patrick Goetzpgo...@mail.utexas.edu wrote:
Given that my signal to noise ratio is already at a white noise breaking
point (and that I'm probably not alone here), can we please keep these
kinds of tit-for-tat arguments, rhetoric, ad hominem attacks, and
flirting
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 17:45:56 +0200
From: Soren Hansen so...@ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: Properly identifying applications
To: ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com
If you put yourself in the place of someone who is not used to
Linux: You have a document you want to open (and for some
On Monday 08 June 2009 5:26:17 pm Paige Thompson wrote:
well _sir_, I just cant help _but_ notice _that_ you are all_acting
douchebags--_and_ I thought _I_ might _make_ that obser_vation_.
Well that wasn't very polite...
--
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On Monday 08 June 2009 6:45:20 pm André Pirard wrote:
Similarly, the swap partition should be a Linux file.
I think this was talked about at UDS as something people wanted to do.
--
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I like the idea of App name - function, or Function - app name. Either
way. There are enough hard-to-pronounce app names in the Linux world
that it should be required to list the app function along with the app
name. Even listening to Linux podcasts, there is never any consensus on
how to
On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 15:21 -0400, Mackenzie Morgan wrote:
On Monday 08 June 2009 6:45:20 pm André Pirard wrote:
Similarly, the swap partition should be a Linux file.
I think this was talked about at UDS as something people wanted to do.
were there discussions about how to manage
In the Intrepid cycle, there was something going on where it would add a
last good boot option to grub instead of all the old kernels in order to
keep the list cleaner and shorter. It was dropped quite close to release
because of some unfixed bugs, and seems to have disappeared. Whatever
happened
Olá Vincenzo e a todos.
On Saturday 23 May 2009 12:10:58 Vincenzo Ciancia wrote:
I am running jaunty. Sometimes, randomly, the disk starts spinning (I
hear the noise and see the light) and the system becomes unusable.
Often, to gain control of a shell (even in console) is a matter of
waiting
Olá Vincenzo e a todos.
On Saturday 23 May 2009 12:26:04 Vincenzo Ciancia wrote:
Perhaps this is a bug in the kernel related to suspend. I will
investigate again the problem in the following days.
After 3 or 4 hibernate/resume cycles my system tends to slow down a lot.
So usually i have to
Olá Davyd e a todos.
On Monday 25 May 2009 06:59:05 Davyd McColl wrote:
What I want to know is: is this common for 64-bit systems (to have dodgy
proprietary (ie, NVIDIA / ATI) drivers)?
I've been running 64 bits on this laptop (with NVidia FeForce 8400) and the
close source driver, since
Olá Chan e a todos.
On Wednesday 03 June 2009 15:57:58 Chan Chung Hang Christopher wrote:
You have ENTIRE communities of Linux users who have never even heard of
kibi/mebi/gibi let alone the IEC.
Let me take this a bit out of context: you have entire countries who never
heard of FOSS or
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On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 07:59 +0200, Davyd McColl wrote:
Good day
I've used Ubuntu for quite some time (years), following upgrade cycles
on 32-bit and staying clear of 64-bit just because a lot of people
have reported having a hard time of it. I recently installed 64-bit
Jaunty on my laptop
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Christopher
Olahchristopherolah...@gmail.com wrote:
It appears to me that the most important point has been forgotten: the
accusations of censorship. This, if true, is very alarming...
We can bicker over Mono all we like, but if people are being censored,
like
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 12:47 PM, David
Schlesingerdavid.schlesin...@access-company.com wrote:
it would be better if it was removed from the repos too, but ubuntu
would get back some of its respect if it at least removed MONO from
the default install like Fedora is doing.
A few questions:
a)
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 7:58 PM, David
Schlesingerdavid.schlesin...@access-company.com wrote:
Mark Fink continues to scribble:
luckily only stupid people who can't think for themselves fawn over
MONO...some of the forum moderators are novell employees (or people
who drink they're koolaid)...
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Christopher
Olahchristopherolah...@gmail.com wrote:
Ubuntu is a centralised entity. No external person can control e.g. why
we have a custom search in the home page of firefox by default. People
who can't tell the difference will keep using a different google,
On Tuesday 09 June 2009 7:56:34 pm Mark Fink wrote:
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 12:47 PM, David
and working on from there. I can't think of any similarly significant
contributions from Mark Fink or from Paige Thompson. Why would I respect
your view more than Miguel's? Respect is earned around
(``-_-´´) -- BUGabundo wrote:
Olá Chan e a todos.
On Wednesday 03 June 2009 15:57:58 Chan Chung Hang Christopher wrote:
You have ENTIRE communities of Linux users who have never even heard of
kibi/mebi/gibi let alone the IEC.
Let me take this a bit out of context: you have entire
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 9:42 PM, Mackenzie Morganmaco...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday 09 June 2009 7:43:37 pm Mark Fink wrote:
obviously some of the forum moderators are novell employees (or people
who drink they're koolaid) who are censoring respectable people like
neighborlee when they speak
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 09:01:48AM +0800, Christopher Chan wrote:
Except that this is not 'improvement'. This is about blowing that
erroneous three decade or so operating system convention of using SI
prefixes for 1024 multiples of bytes out of the water without adding to
the confusion that
It is certainly an improvement to make these things make sense.
Call it whatever you will. Improvement/fixing three decade long error
We can argue about how to do it, who to work with, etc, but
this confusion finally needs to be cleaned up.
If I earlier gave the impression not to
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