Re: EFF Privacy; hopefully Ubuntu will listen to users

2012-11-07 Thread Aurélien Naldi
On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 4:28 PM, C de-Avillez hgg...@ubuntu.com wrote: On 05/11/12 09:08, Jordon Bedwell wrote: This is from my perspective though and I have not really followed all too closely since I am the type of person to remove what I don't want and block stuff like Canonical's NTP

Re: EFF Privacy; hopefully Ubuntu will listen to users

2012-11-07 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 03:28:44PM +, J Fernyhough wrote: I'm currently looking into how Ubuntu meets the provisions of the Data Protection Act 1998, and more crucially what would need to be done to meet the requirements, so that I have some base of evidence and legal reasoning to put

Re: EFF Privacy; hopefully Ubuntu will listen to users

2012-11-07 Thread J Fernyhough
On 5 November 2012 15:35, Martin Albisetti be...@ubuntu.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 12:28 PM, J Fernyhough j.fernyho...@gmail.com wrote: (As an aside, it appears that being only enthusiastic about Ubuntu and all decisions, or at least getting in line, is a requisite for employment

Re: EFF Privacy; hopefully Ubuntu will listen to users

2012-11-07 Thread J Fernyhough
On 7 November 2012 15:23, Colin Watson cjwat...@ubuntu.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 03:28:44PM +, J Fernyhough wrote: I'm currently looking into how Ubuntu meets the provisions of the Data Protection Act 1998, and more crucially what would need to be done to meet the requirements, so

Re: EFF Privacy; hopefully Ubuntu will listen to users

2012-11-07 Thread Didier Roche
Le 07/11/2012 17:16, J Fernyhough a écrit : On 7 November 2012 15:23, Colin Watson cjwat...@ubuntu.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 03:28:44PM +, J Fernyhough wrote: I'm currently looking into how Ubuntu meets the provisions of the Data Protection Act 1998, and more crucially what would

Re: EFF Privacy; hopefully Ubuntu will listen to users

2012-11-06 Thread C de-Avillez
On 05/11/12 09:08, Jordon Bedwell wrote: This is from my perspective though and I have not really followed all too closely since I am the type of person to remove what I don't want and block stuff like Canonical's NTP and other tracking via our hardware firewalls instead of complaining about

Re: EFF Privacy; hopefully Ubuntu will listen to users

2012-11-05 Thread Robie Basak
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 09:45:59AM -0300, German Larrain M. wrote: Well, issues like this are the ones that motivate a fork (e.g. OpenOffice and LibreOffice) at one time or another. Is it necessary to reach that point? I don't think so. It

Re: EFF Privacy; hopefully Ubuntu will listen to users

2012-11-05 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 8:55 AM, Robie Basak robie.ba...@canonical.com wrote: Forks happen when people disagree. Is there really any disagreement here? Have any privacy-related patches actually been rejected, or is it just that nobody has written them? Patches being rejected are a bit narrow,

Re: EFF Privacy; hopefully Ubuntu will listen to users

2012-11-05 Thread J Fernyhough
On 5 November 2012 15:08, Jordon Bedwell jor...@envygeeks.com wrote: -- snip -- I think what Canonical and Ubuntu are doing is alienating old Linux users who are used to telling their computers what to do, not having their computer tell them what they are going to do and then them having to

Re: EFF Privacy; hopefully Ubuntu will listen to users

2012-11-05 Thread Martin Albisetti
On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 12:28 PM, J Fernyhough j.fernyho...@gmail.com wrote: (As an aside, it appears that being only enthusiastic about Ubuntu and all decisions, or at least getting in line, is a requisite for employment there.) It is not. -- Martin -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list

Re: EFF Privacy; hopefully Ubuntu will listen to users

2012-11-05 Thread Bruno Girin
On 05/11/12 15:08, Jordon Bedwell wrote: We've just had the Ubuntu Developer Summit during which the next release was planned, and everyone was welcome (both in person and online). I must have missed the session on privacy, or did nobody propose one? I don't think there was one, I think this

Re: EFF Privacy; hopefully Ubuntu will listen to users

2012-11-05 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
On Nov 5, 2012 7:53 AM, Bruno Girin brunogi...@gmail.com wrote: On 05/11/12 15:08, Jordon Bedwell wrote: We've just had the Ubuntu Developer Summit during which the next release was planned, and everyone was welcome (both in person and online). I must have missed the session on privacy, or

Re: EFF Privacy; hopefully Ubuntu will listen to users

2012-11-05 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Mon, 2012-11-05 at 15:52 +, Bruno Girin wrote: It's a couple of weeks late for UDS-R but what about creating a blueprint for UDS-S? Get the discussion going, gather examples of privacy issues and what could be done to address them. Then at the next UDS, we can work out solutions that

Re: EFF Privacy; hopefully Ubuntu will listen to users

2012-11-05 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, November 05, 2012 11:53:03 AM Rodney Dawes wrote: ... There were large changes to address some specific user concerns around the dash search, that went in after various freezes were in effect. ... That's also true of the shopping bits of dash search itself, so without time travel,

Re: EFF Privacy; hopefully Ubuntu will listen to users

2012-11-05 Thread Jeremy Bicha
On 5 November 2012 11:53, Rodney Dawes rodney.da...@canonical.com wrote: There were large changes to address some specific user concerns around the dash search, that went in *after* various freezes were in effect. One example is http://pad.lv/1065652 which while obviously a user interface

Re: EFF Privacy; hopefully Ubuntu will listen to users

2012-11-05 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 11:14 AM, Jeremy Bicha jer...@bicha.net wrote: One example is http://pad.lv/1065652 which while obviously a user interface change, happened after Final Freeze without the typical paperwork; presumably because it was *that* critical to mitigate the privacy concerns. I

Re: EFF Privacy; hopefully Ubuntu will listen to users

2012-11-05 Thread Didier Roche
Le 05/11/2012 18:14, Jeremy Bicha a écrit : On 5 November 2012 11:53, Rodney Dawes rodney.da...@canonical.com wrote: There were large changes to address some specific user concerns around the dash search, that went in *after* various freezes were in effect. One example is http://pad.lv/1065652

Re: EFF Privacy; hopefully Ubuntu will listen to users

2012-11-05 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Mon, 2012-11-05 at 12:11 -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Monday, November 05, 2012 11:53:03 AM Rodney Dawes wrote: ... There were large changes to address some specific user concerns around the dash search, that went in after various freezes were in effect. ... That's also true of the

Re: EFF Privacy; hopefully Ubuntu will listen to users

2012-11-05 Thread Chris Johnston
On 11/05/2012 11:32 AM, Benjamin Kerensa wrote: On Nov 5, 2012 7:53 AM, Bruno Girin brunogi...@gmail.com Or is it the case that nobody bothered to file a blueprint? Bear in mind that *anybody* in the community can create blueprints for UDS, not just Canonical. Anyone can create one but

Re: EFF Privacy; hopefully Ubuntu will listen to users

2012-11-05 Thread Jeremy Bicha
On 5 November 2012 13:19, Rodney Dawes rodney.da...@canonical.com wrote: I don't know if it's been done before or not, but perhaps the Release Team, and Tech Board, should take up any concerns related to some of the Canonical projects' involvement in that process, with the appropriate members

Re: EFF Privacy; hopefully Ubuntu will listen to users

2012-11-05 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, November 05, 2012 12:14:51 PM Jeremy Bicha wrote: On 5 November 2012 11:53, Rodney Dawes rodney.da...@canonical.com wrote: There were large changes to address some specific user concerns around the dash search, that went in *after* various freezes were in effect. One example is

Re: EFF Privacy; hopefully Ubuntu will listen to users

2012-11-05 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, November 05, 2012 08:32:35 AM Benjamin Kerensa wrote: Or is it the case that nobody bothered to file a blueprint? Bear in mind that anybody in the community can create blueprints for UDS, not just Canonical. Anyone can create one but Canonical does approve them. There are a

Re: EFF Privacy; hopefully Ubuntu will listen to users

2012-11-05 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, November 05, 2012 01:19:51 PM Rodney Dawes wrote: On Mon, 2012-11-05 at 12:11 -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Monday, November 05, 2012 11:53:03 AM Rodney Dawes wrote: ... There were large changes to address some specific user concerns around the dash search, that went in

Re: EFF Privacy; hopefully Ubuntu will listen to users

2012-11-05 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Mon, 2012-11-05 at 13:58 -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote: I don't know if it's been done before or not, but perhaps the Release Team, and Tech Board, should take up any concerns related to some of the Canonical projects' involvement in that process, with the appropriate members of

Re: EFF Privacy; hopefully Ubuntu will listen to users

2012-11-05 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, November 05, 2012 02:27:06 PM Rodney Dawes wrote: On Mon, 2012-11-05 at 13:58 -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote: I don't know if it's been done before or not, but perhaps the Release Team, and Tech Board, should take up any concerns related to some of the Canonical projects'

Re: EFF Privacy; hopefully Ubuntu will listen to users

2012-10-30 Thread German Larrain M.
with anti-OSS people. Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 00:03:13 -0400 From: nick rundy nru...@hotmail.com To: ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: EFF Privacy; hopefully Ubuntu will listen to users? Message-ID: bay002-w3239077a170718e5b5745dd5