On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 12:38:35 +0100, João M. S. Silva wrote:
does it mean I'm not using systemd? I don't seem to have systemd
installed (Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS).
AFAIK systemd is default for 15.04 and 15.10 only.
[root@moonstudio ~]# dpkg -s systemd | grep -A1 Installing
Installing the systemd
On 08/15/2015 09:02 AM, Tom H wrote:
If you're using systemd, you should be able to use
update-rc.d service enable
update-rc.d service disable
as in Debian
Since I get:
$ update-rc.d modemmanager enable
update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/modemmanager: file does not exist
does it mean I'm not using
On 08/14/2015 10:07 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 01:33:46 +0100, João M. S. Silva wrote:
On 08/15/2015 01:12 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
As already pointed out, the drive in question is _sdc_, not _sdb_
What about kworker?
I wonder, if AppArmor or any of the other software I
Am Montag, den 17.08.2015, 12:38 +0100 schrieb João M. S. Silva:
does it mean I'm not using systemd? I don't seem to have systemd
installed (Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS).
update-rc.d and invoke-rc.d are tools for package maintainers only (to
be used from pre/postinst scripts) and only applies to
Hello everyone,
Could someone offer help in the transition to libimobiledevice 1.2.0?
The SONAME changes during the sync.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1485347
I can't help as I don't have any development or packaging knowledge.
libimobiledevice 1.2.0 has proper iOS 8 support that is
Am Montag, den 17.08.2015, 14:56 +0100 schrieb João M. S. Silva:
The specific problem here is that modemmanager depends on network-manager:
$ cat /etc/init/modemmanager.conf
(...)
start on starting network-manager
stop on stopped network-manager
(...)
But I don't need network-manager
On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 15:56:34 +0200, Oliver Grawert wrote:
hi,
Am Montag, den 17.08.2015, 15:41 +0200 schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
Btw. I'm still not used to systemd after using it for around 3 years,
but for my workflow a clean systemd at least is easier to handle,
than the Wily hybrid.
You
On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 08:47:33 -0500, Jamie Strandboge wrote:
On 08/14/2015 10:07 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 01:33:46 +0100, João M. S. Silva wrote:
On 08/15/2015 01:12 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
As already pointed out, the drive in question is _sdc_, not _sdb_
What about
hi,
Am Montag, den 17.08.2015, 15:36 +0100 schrieb João M. S. Silva:
Yes, it is:
$ dpkg -l|grep network-manager
$ dpkg -l|grep modemmanager
ii modemmanager1.0.0-2ubuntu1
amd64D-Bus service for managing modems
Thanks Oli, that sounds reasonable. I
hi,
Am Montag, den 17.08.2015, 15:41 +0200 schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
Btw. I'm still not used to systemd after using it for around 3 years,
but for my workflow a clean systemd at least is easier to handle, than
the Wily hybrid.
You might get used to the Wily hybrid systemd within 30 seconds, you
[root@moonstudio ~]# ls -l /bin/systemd /sbin/upstart
ls: cannot access /sbin/upstart: No such file or directory
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 Aug 12 16:58 /bin/systemd - /lib/systemd/systemd
FWIW even for 15.10 it's a hybrid, not a clean systemd.
When you do a clean install of 15.10 you get
On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 08:43:50 -0400, Luis Mondesi wrote:
When you do a clean install of 15.10 you get the Full Systemd
Experience ™ It's very awkward for the first 30 seconds or so, but one
gets used to its quirks very fast.
Cannot really complaint about it. Just continue on...
Hi Luis,
I
The specific problem here is that modemmanager depends on network-manager:
$ cat /etc/init/modemmanager.conf
(...)
start on starting network-manager
stop on stopped network-manager
(...)
But I don't need network-manager and all of its dependencies on this server.
I'd just like to start
Yes, it is:
$ dpkg -l|grep network-manager
$ dpkg -l|grep modemmanager
ii modemmanager1.0.0-2ubuntu1
amd64D-Bus service for managing modems
Thanks Oli, that sounds reasonable. I tried it but:
$ service modemmanager status
modemmanager stop/waiting
$
On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 17:03:02 +0200, Oliver Grawert wrote:
ubuntus upstream is debian in this case ...
... but systemd's upstream is _not_ Debian.
I already wrote:
it's off topic and we don't need to discuss it.
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Thanks Oli, it works OK with:
$ cat /etc/init/modemmanager.override
start on starting dbus
stop on stopped dbus
I think network-manager is only needed if you want to establish an
Internet connection over the HSDPA modem or so.
In this case I only use it to send SMS, etc. so I don't need
Am Montag, den 17.08.2015, 18:13 +0200 schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 17:32:42 +0200, Oliver Grawert wrote:
unfounded FUD
What next?
Actually everything I pointed out is correct, it's not unfounded FUD.
Even you mentioned that not all services are ported over.
neither the
hi,
Am Montag, den 17.08.2015, 12:05 -0400 schrieb Luis Mondesi:
A chkconfig like tool is needed, even if it's overkill.
what is wrong with using upstreams systemctl to manage services ?
this is what systemd upstream proposes and what is used in ubuntu and
debian (and hopefully everywhere
Am Montag, den 17.08.2015, 17:20 +0200 schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 17:03:02 +0200, Oliver Grawert wrote:
ubuntus upstream is debian in this case ...
... but systemd's upstream is _not_ Debian.
no, but you blame ubuntu for technical debian decisions here ...
martin pitt and
Hi Luis,
I strongly disagree.
For my everyday production environment I run Arch Linux since February
2012 with a clean systemd.
This year in July I installed Wily from the server ISO on this
multi-boot machine. What I got wasn't a Full Systemd Experience, but
a mess with init scripts
On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 17:32:42 +0200, Oliver Grawert wrote:
unfounded FUD
What next?
Actually everything I pointed out is correct, it's not unfounded FUD.
Even you mentioned that not all services are ported over.
It's not that hard for me to make a profound comparison between an Arch
Linux
Oliver Grawert [2015-08-17 15:24 +0200]:
if you need to prevent an upstart service from starting on boot you need
to create a .override files containing the word manual, as described
in your askubuntu links. i dont think there exists a tool to do that for
you (and such a tool would be quite
On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 18:37:04 +0200, Oliver Grawert wrote:
i havent called anything transparent, you have called the boot process
a mess and pointed to pointless proof
I was speaking about transparency and I called the absence of
transparency a mess. Your claim is, that it isn't a mess, so the
hi,
Am Montag, den 17.08.2015, 16:46 +0200 schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 15:56:34 +0200, Oliver Grawert wrote:
hi,
Am Montag, den 17.08.2015, 15:41 +0200 schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
Btw. I'm still not used to systemd after using it for around 3 years,
but for my workflow a clean
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