Re: Special Type Sorts Tray 2001

2001-10-10 Thread Roozbeh Pournader
On Tue, 2 Oct 2001, Michael (michka) Kaplan wrote: And I am sure Apple is hard at work on the Desert font and keyboard for Mac OS 11? :-) OS XI you mean? ;)

[OT] ANN: Site about scripts

2001-10-10 Thread Lars Marius Garshol
I have just made public a site with information about the world's scripts and languages at URL: http://www.ontopia.net/i18n/index.jsp It's based on the topic map I posted about earlier, but now has a much more user-friendly interface. It currently contains information on 128 scripts, but I

Re: Site about scripts

2001-10-10 Thread Michael Everson
At 17:23 +0200 2001-10-10, Lars Marius Garshol wrote: If anyone knows of a mailing list devoted solely to scripts I'd be happy to know about that as well. See http://www.evertype.com/standards/iso15924 -- Michael Everson *** Everson Typography *** http://www.evertype.com 15 Port Chaeimhghein

RE: [OT] ANN: Site about scripts

2001-10-10 Thread Suzanne M. Topping
-Original Message- From: Lars Marius Garshol [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] If anyone knows of a mailing list devoted solely to scripts I'd be happy to know about that as well. The Qalam list on yahoogroups might be of interest to you. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/qalam

RE: [OT] ANN: Site about scripts

2001-10-10 Thread Hietaniemi Jarkko (NRC/Boston)
You may consider trying to classify the artificial scripts a bit more. For example I *think* (I'm a bit rusty on my Elvish) that for Tengwar would be either Abjad (like Hebrew), or maybe Featural (like Hangul), and Cirth would be Alphabet (like Runic).

RE: Site about scripts

2001-10-10 Thread Michael Everson
At 12:02 -0400 2001-10-10, Hietaniemi Jarkko (NRC/Boston) wrote: You may consider trying to classify the artificial scripts a bit more. For example I *think* (I'm a bit rusty on my Elvish) that for Tengwar would be either Abjad (like Hebrew), or maybe Featural (like Hangul), and Cirth would be

Re: [OT] ANN: Site about scripts

2001-10-10 Thread Lars Marius Garshol
* Hietaniemi Jarkko | | You may consider trying to classify the artificial scripts a bit | more. For example I *think* (I'm a bit rusty on my Elvish) that for | Tengwar would be either Abjad (like Hebrew), or maybe Featural (like | Hangul), Tengwar has vowel diacritics that seem to follow

RE: [OT] ANN: Site about scripts

2001-10-10 Thread Hietaniemi Jarkko (NRC/Boston)
Tengwar has vowel diacritics that seem to follow temporal order, so it may be that it should be an abugida rather than an alphasyllabary, but it is not an abjad. I am not too sure of the distinction between abugida and alphasyllabary, to be honest. Help on this would be welcome. Here's

sample text ok?

2001-10-10 Thread Peter_Constable
Someone asked me for some actual Arabic words that show Arabic contextual forms. The following sample contains what I think are five occurences of heh in various positions. Can anyone verify that all of these are heh and that this combination of words (which I took from the What is Unicode

RE: sample text ok?

2001-10-10 Thread Peter_Constable
On 10/10/2001 02:13:03 PM Magda Danish (Unicode) wrote: The words are all just fine. Thanks. I have to point out though that there are only 4 different shapes of heh - not 5 - the first occurrence of heh in word # 2 and # 4 being the same. Yes, I knew that: five instance illustrating four

Re: ZWJ and Turkish

2001-10-10 Thread John Hudson
At 12:13 10/10/2001, Roozbeh Pournader wrote: I was wondering how should a standard compliant engine render span lang=trfzwj;i/span in a font that has the 'fi' ligature: 1) What do you mean? It is Turkish! fi should never be ligated in Turkish... 2) But can't you see the ZWJ? I'm

RE: sample text ok?

2001-10-10 Thread John Hudson
At 12:26 10/10/2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have to point out though that there are only 4 different shapes of heh - not 5 - the first occurrence of heh in word # 2 and # 4 being the same. Yes, I knew that: five instance illustrating four shapes. I had picked out four words that I

Re: Roadmaps

2001-10-10 Thread Keld Jørn Simonsen
On Wed, Oct 10, 2001 at 07:53:51PM +0100, Michael Everson wrote: The Roadmaps to Unicode and ISO/IEC 10646 have been maintained by the ad-hoc committee on the Roadmap, which consists of Michael Everson, Rick McGowan, and Ken Whistler. They were hosted on Michael Everson's site, and this

Re: sample text ok?

2001-10-10 Thread Roozbeh Pournader
On Wed, 10 Oct 2001, Jeff Guevin wrote: They are all heh, and to the best of my knowledge, not bad words. Words 2 and 4 (RTL) mean, respectively: she and this ... I don't know what the other two mean. The third is from it. I don't know about the first. roozbeh

RE: Roadmaps

2001-10-10 Thread Carl W. Brown
Keld Simonsen, -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Keld Jorn Simonsen Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 1:07 PM To: Michael Everson Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Roadmaps On Wed, Oct 10, 2001 at 07:53:51PM

ZWJ+ZWNJ+ZWJ (Was: ZWJ and Turkish)

2001-10-10 Thread John Hudson
At 14:23 10/10/2001, Roozbeh Pournader wrote on the Unicode list: Right, but just make sure that ZWJ+ZWNJ+ZWJ (the worst thing in Unicode, as I call it) also works on your Arabic fonts... Presuming that the result here is that the final ZWJ should override the ZWNJ, the easiest way to handle

RE: sample text ok?

2001-10-10 Thread John Hudson
At 14:27 10/10/2001, Roozbeh Pournader wrote: No, it's not a fifth form. It's just the initial form. Since Heh is too similiar to the Arabic digit five, when refering to the letter, an initial form is usually used. The glyph in at U+0647 in Unicode charts is just that... I know it is based on

Re: Roadmaps

2001-10-10 Thread Keld Jørn Simonsen
On Wed, Oct 10, 2001 at 02:25:17PM -0700, Carl W. Brown wrote: I disagree with ISO's policy of charging for all of the public standards. I would also rather that they be available for free. Some are. I actually have some ideas to make all ISO IT-standards available for free, with the

RE: ZWJ+ZWNJ+ZWJ (Was: ZWJ and Turkish)

2001-10-10 Thread John Hudson
At 15:35 10/10/2001, Paul Nelson wrote: Why would you do something like this? These are control characters and should not be played with. The shaping engine should set the shapes of the charaters on either side correctly. Since glyphs for control characters are not normally displayed there is no

Re: Roadmaps

2001-10-10 Thread Michael Everson
At 22:07 +0200 2001-10-10, Keld Jørn Simonsen wrote: I think the problems fro WG2 to refernce Unicode web pages are the same as referencing Michael Everson's web site. If the roadmaps are planning for the ISO standard, they should reside on the ISO web. Immediate updates will be on the Unicode

RE: Roadmaps

2001-10-10 Thread Michael Everson
At 14:25 -0700 2001-10-10, Carl W. Brown wrote: I think the problems fro WG2 to refernce Unicode web pages are the same as referencing Michael eversons web site. If the roadmaps are planning for the ISO standard, they should reside on the ISO web. The Roadmaps have always, and will

RE: Roadmaps

2001-10-10 Thread Carl W. Brown
Keld, In the case of ISO 639 there is an online, official, up-to-date registry available at the Library of Congress site. It is there because the same codes are used in the MARC standard. However even though they seem to keep it up to date, it is an unofficial copy of the standard. Other