Re: Egyptian Hieroglyph Man with a Laptop

2020-02-13 Thread via Unicode
Strange, has several meanings, not all positive. Perhaps the term outlier is less ambiguous. One definition is unfamiliar, some outliers over time become widespread in use, become famliar we no longer consider them strange, but as they are still different are still outliers. CJK is a

Re: Egyptian Hieroglyph Man with a Laptop

2020-02-13 Thread Ken Whistler via Unicode
Well, no, in this case "strange" means strange, as Ken Lunde notes. I'm just pointing to his list, because it pulls together quite a few Han characters that *also* have dubious cases for encoding. Or you could turn the argument around, I suppose, and note that just because the hieroglyph for

Re: Egyptian Hieroglyph Man with a Laptop

2020-02-13 Thread via Unicode
Dear Ken An interesting comparison, if strange means dubious, then the name kstrange should be changed or some of the content removed because many of the characters in the set are not dubious in the least. Regards John On 2020-02-14 04:08, Ken Whistler via Unicode wrote: You want

Re: Egyptian Hieroglyph Man with a Laptop

2020-02-13 Thread Richard Wordingham via Unicode
On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 20:15:07 + Shawn Steele via Unicode wrote: > I confess that even though I know nothing about Hieroglyphs, that I > find it fascinating that such a thoroughly dead script might still be > living in some way, even if it's only a little bit. Plenty of people have learnt how

Re: Egyptian Hieroglyph Man with a Laptop

2020-02-13 Thread Asmus Freytag via Unicode
On 2/12/2020 3:26 PM, Shawn Steele via Unicode wrote: From the point of view of Unicode, it is simpler: If the character is in use or have had use, it should be included somehow. That bar, to me, seems too low. Many things are only used

RE: Egyptian Hieroglyph Man with a Laptop

2020-02-13 Thread Shawn Steele via Unicode
I'm not opposed to a sub-bloc for "Modern Hieroglyphs" I confess that even though I know nothing about Hieroglyphs, that I find it fascinating that such a thoroughly dead script might still be living in some way, even if it's only a little bit. -Shawn -Original Message- From:

Re: Egyptian Hieroglyph Man with a Laptop

2020-02-13 Thread Ken Whistler via Unicode
You want "dubious"?! You should see the hundreds of strange characters already encoded in the CJK *Unified* Ideographs blocks, as recently documented in great detail by Ken Lunde: https://www.unicode.org/L2/L2020/20059-unihan-kstrange-update.pdf Compared to many of those, a hieroglyph of a

Re: Egyptian Hieroglyph Man with a Laptop

2020-02-13 Thread Phake Nick via Unicode
Those characters could also be put into another block for the same script similar to how dubious characters in CJK are included by placing them into "CJK Compatibility Ideographs" for round trip compatibility with source encoding. 在 2020年2月14日週五 03:35,Richard Wordingham via Unicode 寫道: > On

Re: Egyptian Hieroglyph Man with a Laptop

2020-02-13 Thread Richard Wordingham via Unicode
On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 10:18:40 +0100 Hans Åberg via Unicode wrote: > > On 13 Feb 2020, at 00:26, Shawn Steele > > wrote: > >> From the point of view of Unicode, it is simpler: If the character > >> is in use or have had use, it should be included somehow. > > > > That bar, to me, seems too

What should or should not be encoded in Unicode? (from Re: Egyptian Hieroglyph Man with a Laptop)

2020-02-13 Thread wjgo_10...@btinternet.com via Unicode
Hans Åberg >>> From the point of view of Unicode, it is simpler: If the character is in use or have had use, it should be included somehow. Shawn Steele >> That bar, to me, seems too low. Many things are only used briefly or in a private context that doesn;t really require encoding. Hans

Re: Egyptian Hieroglyph Man with a Laptop

2020-02-13 Thread Frédéric Grosshans via Unicode
Le 12/02/2020 à 23:30, Michel Suignard a écrit : Interesting that a single character is creating so much feedback, but it is not the first time. Extrapolating from my own case, I guess it’s because hieroglyphs have a strong cultural significance — especially to people following unicode

Re: Egyptian Hieroglyph Man with a Laptop

2020-02-13 Thread Hans Åberg via Unicode
> On 13 Feb 2020, at 00:26, Shawn Steele wrote: > >> From the point of view of Unicode, it is simpler: If the character is in use >> or have had use, it should be included somehow. > > That bar, to me, seems too low. Many things are only used briefly or in a > private context that doesn't