WHITE and BLACK SHOGI PIECEs

Shogi? Isn't that the game with only ONE colour of pieces? rubyrb$B$8$e$&$$$C$A$c$s(B/rbrp(/rprtJuuitchan/rtrp)/rp/ruby Well, I guess what you say is true, I could never be the right kind of girl for you, I could never be your woman - White Town

Currency symbols (was RE: Shape of the US Dollar Sign)

So, can Unicode characters die? rubyrb$B$8$e$&$$$C$A$c$s(B/rbrp(/rprtJuuitchan/rtrp)/rp/ruby Well, I guess what you say is true, I could never be the right kind of girl for you, I could never be your woman - White Town About "??" (L with two bars = "Italian lira" or

Unicode Conf. game idea: Vowel Karuta

You play karuta like normal, but on the cards are IPA vowels. So the guy says /i::/ or whatever and you have to pick up that vowel. rubyrb$B$8$e$&$$$C$A$c$s(B/rbrp(/rprtJuuitchan/rtrp)/rp/ruby Well, I guess what you say is true, I could never be the right kind of girl for you, I could

Re: Shape of the US Dollar Sign

--- Original Message --- $B:9=P?M(B: Michael Everson [EMAIL PROTECTED]; $B08@h(B: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Cc: $BF|;~(B: 01/09/28 13:24 $B7oL>(B: Re: Shape of the US Dollar Sign At 08:10 -0500 2001-09-28, Winkler, Arnold F wrote: I'm in the middle of a research for my Commercial Laws

Re: Egyptian Transliteration Characters

Is this the same Unicode that encodes characters and not glyphs? rubyrb$B$8$e$&$$$C$A$c$s(B/rbrp(/rprtJuuitchan/rtrp)/rp/ruby Well, I guess what you say is true, I could never be the right kind of girl for you, I could never be your woman - White Town --- Original

A pun - will this work?

A half-Jamaican, half-Japanese man is trying one of those contrived pseudosports you see on cable TV. He is aiming to beat the record score of 49,999 points. What do you say to cheer him on? rubyrb$B$8$e$&$$$C$A$c$s(B/rbrp(/rprtJuuitchan/rtrp)/rp/ruby Well, I guess what you say is true, I

FW: Re: A pun - will this work?

Um... no. rubyrb$B$8$e$&$$$C$A$c$s(B/rbrp(/rprtJuuitchan/rtrp)/rp/ruby Well, I guess what you say is true, I could never be the right kind of girl for you, I could never be your woman - White Town --- Original Message --- $B:9=P?M(B: Kenneth Whistler [EMAIL PROTECTED];

[OT] Computer input of numbers

Actually, there is no need of the digits at all! Why even have them? With my Japanese IME, I simply type the number as words (japanese number words are much shorter than the English) and convert! Or, you can say, why in English do we have the words "two", "three", etc., when we can merely write

Kana syllables

The small letters are for making like in my fake name. The regular Ri and the small Yu make Ryu. Some syllables require 2 katakana (or hiragana) symbols. But the thing is, are "ra gyou" kana to be regarded as having R or L for their consonant? You can get lots of 2-kana syllables. Like in the

RE: numeric ordering

Why not have as part of your kanji collation order, the Han digits one through nine, in that order? Why are they called CJK UNIFIED IDEOGRAPHs, anyway? Only a committee would come up with a name like that. rubyrb$B$8$e$&$$$C$A$c$s(B/rbrp(/rprtJuuitchan/rtrp)/rp/ruby Well, I guess what you

Re: The byte

rubyrb$B$8$e$&$$$C$A$c$s(B/rbrp(/rprtJuuitchan/rtrp)/rp/ruby Well, I guess what you say is true, I could never be the right kind of girl for you, I could never be your woman - White Town --- Original Message --- $B:9=P?M(B: Rick McGowan [EMAIL PROTECTED]; $B08@h(B:

The byte

The existence of the byte sucks. rubyrb$B$8$e$&$$$C$A$c$s(B/rbrp(/rprtJuuitchan/rtrp)/rp/ruby Well, I guess what you say is true, I could never be the right kind of girl for you, I could never be your woman - White Town --- Original Message --- $B:9=P?M(B: Marcin

Collation (was RE: [OT] o-circumflex)

Whoever invented English number words, then, had a very sick sense of humour. Why doesn't the word for "one" start with "a", the word for "two" with "b", etc.,? rubyrb$B$8$e$&$$$C$A$c$s(B/rbrp(/rprtJuuitchan/rtrp)/rp/ruby Well, I guess what you say is true, I could never be the right kind of

Re: Chinese Characters' Code

This is a reason to mark the CJK section, "This is where you will find the Chinese characters." rubyrb$B$8$e$&$$$C$A$c$s(B/rbrp(/rprtJuuitchan/rtrp)/rp/ruby Well, I guess what you say is true, I could never be the right kind of girl for you, I could never be your woman -

Re: [OT] o-circumflex

If they can't agree on the pronunciation for these cities, can they agree on the Hanzi for them? What ARE the Hanzi for these cities, anyway?? rubyrb$B$8$e$&$$$C$A$c$s(B/rbrp(/rprtJuuitchan/rtrp)/rp/ruby Well, I guess what you say is true, I could never be the right kind of girl for you, I

The trouble with text-sorting algorithms

The trouble with algorithms for sorting *text* is that often an algorithm that prurportedly sorts TEXT will really be sorting at least partly by PRONUNCIATION. So is it really sorting text? I bet you could disturb the peace by wanting to know how to sort the Japanese word for "Japan" in

Re: [OT] o-circumflex

I hate this sort: Club Mix 2000 Club Mix 98 Club Mix 99 Those non Y2K compliant fools! rubyrb$B$8$e$&$$$C$A$c$s(B/rbrp(/rprtJuuitchan/rtrp)/rp/ruby Well, I guess what you say is true, I could never be the right kind of girl for you, I could never be your woman - White

Re: [OT] o-circumflex

your woman - White Town --- Original Message --- $B:9=P?M(B: Thomas Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED]; $B08@h(B: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Cc: $BF|;~(B: 01/09/10 19:59 $B7oL>(B: Re: [OT] o-circumflex On Mon, 10 Sep 2001, [ISO-2022-JP] $B$F$s$I$&$j$e$&$8(B wrote: If t

Re: [OT] o-circumflex

There is also no word pair separated only by the I/J distinction (in English), right? rubyrb$B$8$e$&$$$C$A$c$s(B/rbrp(/rprtJuuitchan/rtrp)/rp/ruby Well, I guess what you say is true, I could never be the right kind of girl for you, I could never be your woman - White Town

Re: [OT] o-circumflex

rubyrb$B$8$e$&$$$C$A$c$s(B/rbrp(/rprtJuuitchan/rtrp)/rp/ruby Well, I guess what you say is true, I could never be the right kind of girl for you, I could never be your woman - White Town Who'd be a lexicographer? $B;d!)(B Mike.

RE: Grand Unified Syllabary Project Opens

So, do I use ra, ri, ru, re, ro, or do I use la, li, lu, le, lo? rubyrb$B$8$e$&$$$C$A$c$s(B/rbrp(/rprtJuuitchan/rtrp)/rp/ruby Well, I guess what you say is true, I could never be the right kind of girl for you, I could never be your woman - White Town --- Original

RE: Grand Unified Syllabary Project Opens

So, do I use ra, ri, ru, re, ro, or do I use la, li, lu, le, lo? rubyrb$B$8$e$&$$$C$A$c$s(B/rbrp(/rprtJuuitchan/rtrp)/rp/ruby Well, I guess what you say is true, I could never be the right kind of girl for you, I could never be your woman - White Town --- Original

RE: [OT] o-circumflex

Sorry about the kana. My mailer is Japanese. rubyrb$B$8$e$&$$$C$A$c$s(B/rbrp(/rprtJuuitchan/rtrp)/rp/ruby Well, I guess what you say is true, I could never be the right kind of girl for you, I could never be your woman - White Town --- Original Message --- $B:9=P?M(B:

RE: win95

Um, the first thing you want to do maybe is go to Asia or something. Um, everybody, do Asian versions of VB use Unicode? I know they can handle double byte characters because VB as a standard comes with "hiraganize" and "katakanize" functions. Once I tried to get around this when I was trying

(Typing wide characters in Windows)

I have seen this problem before, and as far as I can tell: You're in trouble. Windows is a royal pain sometimes, and this is one of these times. The only thing I can suggest is that you go out, but an Asian version of Windows, and try that. If you want to *SEE* these characters, if THAT is

ipa lyrics?

Why? Karaoke? rubyrb$B$8$e$&$$$C$A$c$s(B/rbrp(/rprtJuuitchan/rtrp)/rp/ruby Well, I guess what you say is true, I could never be the right kind of girl for you, I could never be your woman - White Town

RE: FW: Invalid unicode character, not found

That "1acbbc" thing is too big a number to be a real character, isn't it? The error was presumably the same king of thing as trying to give your birthday as "February 31". rubyrb$B$8$e$&$$$C$A$c$s(B/rbrp(/rprtJuuitchan/rtrp)/rp/ruby Well, I guess what you say is true, I could never be the

Increasingly OT: RE: Errata in language/script list

1. This "names vs. names of names" thing reminds me of people who confuse numbers with numerals. A number is a quantity. A numeral is a symbol for a quantity. Like the difference between a 30-pound stone and the numeral "30" on a scale. 2. I have seen Hanzi in running English text. This is a

Transliteration scripts

1. Cyrillic is probably a much better "all-purpose" transliteration script than Latin. I believe that if one must write Japanese in an *alphabet*, Cyrillic would be near-ideal. Tengwar would probably be ideal. Doesn't Tengwar already have the equivalent of a small tsu built into the script? I

Arithmetic in Transliteration

From what I have read on this list, a Roman-to-Hangul translation would be GREATLY aided by the use of arithmetic on Unicode values. Is this in there too? Arithmetic on Unicode values? rubyrb$B$8$e$&$$$C$A$c$s(B/rbrp(/rprtJuuitchan/rtrp)/rp/ruby Well, I guess what you say is true, I could

RE: Transliteration

I just saw the slides. That cursor-backup looks very tricky. So for someone doing the kana-to-Hepburn, you might have this: (here, "o^" means o-with-circumflex) (bakayarou disclaimer: I make lots of errors) $B$3"*(Bk|$B$*(B $B$="*(Bs|$B$*(B $B$H"*(Bt|$B$*(B . $B$*$&"*(Bo^

Netscape is behind

I have a copy of IE (I forget what version) that appears to support furigana (I used a text file with my fake name to test it). However, Netscape 6 appears to not have furigana support. I have tried using furigana and they are a bit difficult with HTML. I think in some aspects Netscape is

RE: OT: some kind of virus?

'Tis a Trojan, I think. Is it a .lnk extension? In my other e-mail (the spamtrap one) I got a 640K mail. It seemed like a Trojan. $B"!$8$e$&$$$C$A$c$s"!(B ?$B!V0&!W$O!V$"$$!W$G$9!#!V(B10^-10$B!W$b!V$"$$!W$G$9!#!h!V0&!W$O!V(B10^-10$B!W$G$9!#(B ?$B;d$O$m$3$($s$i$+$Y$5$G$9!#(B

Re: Unicode and windows menus

I did try it and it did not work. $B"!$8$e$&$$$C$A$c$s"!(B ?$B!V0&!W$O!V$"$$!W$G$9!#!V(B10^-10$B!W$b!V$"$$!W$G$9!#!h!V0&!W$O!V(B10^-10$B!W$G$9!#(B ?$B;d$O$m$3$($s$i$+$Y$5$G$9!#(B ?$B"v%i!<%a%s$O$G$9$h"v(B --- Original Message --- $B:9=P?M(B: "Michael (michka) Kaplan" [EMAIL

Re: Unicode 3.1 and Roman numeral harmonic analysis

So: is it because of the 12 tone scale that Unicode has exactly 12 Roman numerals? Or is it clock faces? $B"!$8$e$&$$$C$A$c$s"!(B ?$B!V0&!W$O!V$"$$!W$G$9!#!V(B10^-10$B!W$b!V$"$$!W$G$9!#!h!V0&!W$O!V(B10^-10$B!W$G$9!#(B ?$B;d$O$m$3$($s$i$+$Y$5$G$9!#(B ?$B"v%i!<%a%s$O$G$9$h"v(B

HTML character references

When you use escape codes either Onna or MSIE resolves them into characters for me. Is this good or bad? That is what God made zenkaku moji for. $B$j$j$j$j$j$j$j$j$j$j$j$j$j$c$!$!$!$!$!$!$!(B I wish they would make it so strings like this hirara;hiran;hirama; would work. Is that up next?

Mojibaka list

Have you got the list of what programs are mojibaka? Windows 98 Second Edition ha mojibaka. $B!!!z$8$e$&$$$C$A$c$s!z(B $B!!;d$O$m$3$($s$i$+$Y$5!#(B Riddle of the week: What song is 35971040100? That is not a catalog number. Hint: the chorus is 3597104042

Re: Is there Unicode mail out there?

$B!!!z$8$e$&$$$C$A$c$s!z(B $B!!;d$O$m$3$($s$i$+$Y$5!#(B Am 2001-07-13 um 2:53 h EDT hat Doug Ewell geschrieben: Simply replacing unknown characters with '?' doesn't work; the character is too easily overlooked. I would like to see mailers replace unsupported characters with a

FW: Re: Is there Unicode mail out there?

Those are MOJIBAKE for my SIG. 1) I think that is mojibake for my name. It looks familiar. 2) The second one reads, if I rightly remember, "Watashi wa loco en la cabeza". If I get a mojibakus or two in a Chinese sig, I don't say anything. (Is mojibakus the singular of mojibake? Perhaps

Re: Is there Unicode mail out there?

My other e-mail was a real "moji-baka", I'd say. That would be a good term, $BJ8;zGO(B: Re: Is there Unicode mail out there? (I didnt read all the thread so maybe I missed a step). So the proposal is that minimizing the charset is a good thing? This means that you and I start out in a

$B$U$j$,$J$/$@$5$$(B

$BBg2H9%(B!!!$B!!"+!!$U$j$,$J$/$@$5$$(B Is that like $B$@$$$9$-!)(B No, $B$@$$$9$-(B is $BBg9%$-(B. Or is it Chinese, in which case you have to be careful. I have heard of confusing words such as $B

What should be radicals

Shouldn't HAN DIGIT NINE be a radical? I've seen it in a few places in kanji. Also, what is the radical of "cut"? "Sword"? I remember the "cut" chatacter by thinking that 7 swords do a lot of cutting. $B!!!z$8$e$&$$$C$A$c$s!z(B $B!!;d$O$m$3$($s$i$+$Y$5!#(B Riddle of the week: What song is

CJK non-users looking up Hanzi

If you know even a few Hanzi, you probably know at least a couple of radicals, like person and water. If you really know nothing about Hanzi, you could use a little chart like what is already there, that shows the variant forms of radicals. $B!!!z$8$e$&$$$C$A$c$s!z(B

[OT] Beer vs. sake

I have heard that sake is, technically, a beer. They *do* make sake over there, don't they? They make sake over here. I used to get 1.5 liters for $15 or so. But I had to readjust the refrigerator to fit the bottle in. Sa I live in the USA. I love sake. Weak beer tastes like water. Strong

Re: Erratum in Unicode book

Skip is copyrighted. How about a non-counting (mostly), "take-it-apart" method? So I would look up "oku" (English??) under person-sound-heart. I would prefer a method that involved as little counting as possible. $B!!!z$8$e$&$$$C$A$c$s!z(B $B!!;d$O$m$3$($s$i$+$Y$5!#(B Riddle of the

Re: Erratum in Unicode book

$B!!!z$8$e$&$$$C$A$c$s!z(B $B!!;d$O$m$3$($s$i$+$Y$5!#(B Riddle of the week: What song is 35971040100? That is not a catalog number. Hint: the chorus is 3597104042 How about a non-counting (mostly), "take-it-apart" method? So you replace radicals with something else. It's the same

FW: Re: What should be radicals

- $B:9=P?M(B: Thomas Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED]; $B08@h(B: $B$F$s$I$&$j$e$&$8(B [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; $BF|;~(B: 01/07/09 15:03 $B7oL>(B: Re: What should be radicals On Sun, 8 Jul 2001, [ISO-2022-JP] $B$F$s$I$&$j$e$&$8(B wrote: Shouldn't HAN DIGIT NIN

The Script from Hell

The Script from Hell is hell to implement, but those who implement it will be ready for all other scripts. It has: - 7 characters, forcing it into three bytes. - Script joining. You try to script join 7 characters. - Furigana. With 7 characters, you're gonna NEED furigana!! (Yes,

Is there Unicode mail out there?

My onna.com mail is very good to let me read mail in many encodings; however, I think it only sends in SJIS or something. Where is there a Unicode mail? I think there is at least one out there. I hope it will not cost me money; that is for sake. That is, the U+9152 sake.

Erratum in Unicode book

The Unicode 3.0 book does not have sake under water plus 7 strokes. Sake IS water with 7 strokes more, isn't it? Has this been corrected in 3.1? I notice these things. $B!!!z$8$e$&$$$C$A$c$s!z(B $B!!;d$O$m$3$($s$i$+$Y$5!#(B Riddle of the week: What song is 35971040100? That is not a

FW: Re: Erratum in Unicode book

chorus is 3597104042 --- Original Message --- $B:9=P?M(B: James Kass [EMAIL PROTECTED]; $B08@h(B: Unicode List [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Cc: $B$F$s$I$&$j$e$&$8(B [EMAIL PROTECTED]; $BF|;~(B: 01/07/08 15:11 $B7oL>(B: Re: Erratum in Unicode book $B$F$s$I$&$j$e$&$8(B is

FW: Re: Re: Erratum in Unicode book

Who's in California?? I'm not. Else I would have showed up at No. 17. $B!!!z$8$e$&$$$C$A$c$s!z(B $B!!;d$O$m$3$($s$i$+$Y$5!#(B Riddle of the week: What song is 35971040100? That is not a catalog number. Hint: the chorus is 3597104042 --- Original Message --- $B:9=P?M(B: "Michael

Re: Re: Erratum in Unicode book

$B!!!z$8$e$&$$$C$A$c$s!z(B $B!!;d$O$m$3$($s$i$+$Y$5!#(B Riddle of the week: What song is 35971040100? That is not a catalog number. Hint: the chorus is 3597104042 --- Original Message --- $B:9=P?M(B: "Michael (michka) Kaplan" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; $B08@h(B: James Kass [EMAIL

kana and syllables (was: constructed script, etc.)

The kana are adaptable. Quite so! I mean, how can you have you-on (like in my name)? That does not fit your scheme. I like the syllable $B$j$g(B,that is to say, ryo (I think it is a ryo, I am not used to this IME). I heard it in a song once and wished out loud I could say Ryo that good. Then

Re: Conscripts

Deseret was very real to those who used it. I wish they said that to the lady who wrote "The Tale of Genji". She would have given him a VERY ladylike (in my opinion) kick to the face. Hiragana is a conscript. What is the criterion for "enough of a corpus to put it into Unicode"? Is it true

Terms constructed script, invented script (was: FW: Re: Shavian)

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FW: Re: Unicode transliterations (and other operations)

Have you a better idea? That is not low. Low is when I scare myself. You do not want to see what I think. Low is why I ought to be kept away from real, living women because of what I might do after 700 or 800 millilitres of sake. Low would be bad. And there is lower. Let us not go there. I

Medieval digit five (was: Re: status of Jindai scripts?)

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Re: Unicode transliterations (and other operations)

Maybe we are just being weird here. We ought to try to avoid twisting language, even if we do pretty much operate within our own little techie world here. Still haven't got the multiplication riddle solved, Mr. Kass? $B$i$s$^(B $B!z$8$e$&$$$C$A$c$s!z(B $B!!!_$"$+$M(B $B!

Re: New documents

Because Shavian was "serious" and the other two were "fantastic", I guess. No. This is no good. It is 04:57 and I have had zero sake. That is why I am crazy. Just because more people know Saotome Ranma than your next-door neighbor, does that mean Saotome Ranma comes before your next-door

Re: Unicode transliterations (and other operations)

So if I was trying to write my fake name in Polish, or for a Pole to read, I would write it as "Tendou Rjuud{U+017E}i"? That would be transliteration, right? $B$i$s$^(B $B!z$8$e$&$$$C$A$c$s!z(B $B!!!_$"$+$M(B $B!(B: Re: Unicode transliterations (and other operations) I

RE: Innovative use of Latin ?!

T|-|AT 1S S0 5EARC|-| ENGI|\|E5 W1LL N0T GET IT. U5E|) BY 1LLEG/\L S1TE5 A LOT. $B$i$s$^(B $B!z$8$e$&$$$C$A$c$s!z(B $B!!!_$"$+$M(B $B!(B: RE: Innovative use of Latin ?! On Mon, 2 Jul 2001, Ayers, Mike wrote: From: Martin Duerst [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] For people

Re: New characters query

$B$i$s$^(B $B!z$8$e$&$$$C$A$c$s!z(B $B!!!_$"$+$M(B $B!(B: Re: New characters query At 12:33 -0700 2001-07-02, Edward Cherlin wrote: Has anyone proposed the following for inclusion in Unicode? If so, what is their status? Daoist Hexagrams, 64 forms (the trigrams are

Re: Playing with Unicode (was: Re: UTF-17)

Yes. Very Zen. I like it. I am now on [0] bloody Marikos. Reminds me of YOU need at least [6] drinks to hear this. I will Rot 13 it. Va na Rqqvr Zhecul zbivr: Guvf jbzna snegrq erny ybhq. Fbzrbar orengrq ure. Fur fnvq: "V jnfa'g gnyxvat gb lbh... abg hayrff lbhe anzr vf" (sneg) V jbhyq

RE: The perfect solution for the UTF-8/16 discussion

Only one problem What of 1? Mozibake city. I have not had my ramen. I ought to. Oh yeah, another problem. How many bytes in "hello world"? But you know what I love?? YOU WILL USE HAN ZI AND KANA AND THE LIKE BECAUSE OTHERWISE YOU WILL TAKE UP TOO MUCH MEMORY

Kanji tattoo

For playing the dozens at a unicode convention: I wouldn't want *your* girlfriend. Why would I want a girl with so little personality she gets U+3005 on her arm? $B$i$s$^(B $B!z$8$e$&$$$C$A$c$s!z(B $B!!!_$"$+$M(B $B!

Re: RE: First of many newbie questions

$B!!!_$"$+$M(B $B!(B: Re: RE: First of many newbie questions From: "$B$F$s$I$&$j$e$&$8(B" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2) GET THE FREAKING BOOK AND LOOK AT IT and don't so anything stupid like confuse "8" with "B". No one would ever do this, really. The r

FW: RE: First of many newbie questions

quot;$+$M(B $B!(B: RE: First of many newbie questions Dear: $B$F$s$I$&$j$e$&$8(B Well, Mister Constable. What's new about that? Looks to me like e-Leven Digit Grrl just forgot to turn off her microphone again... We're witnessing the spacey under-mumble of a quickly crumbling m

Re: First of many newbie questions

WATASIHABAKAYAROUDA GOMENNE This is what I get when I have no sake and no Unicode book. OOF. So let's see. I have FIRST the shi and THEN the dakuten. Or if you like roses, use ba for bara. Ha and then dakuten, right? Or if you like Pokeacute;mon, use ho and then handakuten, right?

Localization without translation? (was: Re: Business Case for i18n?)

2001$BG/(B6$B7n(B14$BF|(B 9:43:17:GMT+00:00 Like that. This Internet disservice... $B$i$s$^(B $B!z$8$e$&$$$C$A$c$s!z(B $B!!!_$"$+$M(B $B!(B: Localization without translation? (was: Re: Business Case for i18n?) Hello Andrea, At 11:43 01/06/13 -0700, Andrea Vine

RE: Business Case for i18n?

This is nothing new. Look at the Spanish and Chinese signs in New York City. By the way, we did go over where the Kinmonbashi is, right? (Not New York City, I think.) $B$i$s$^(B $B!z$8$e$&$$$C$A$c$s!z(B $B!!!_$"$+$M(B $B!

RE: First of many newbie questions

How can you put the set of bits meaning one character "in" the set of bits meaning another character? One must come first! This game I was playing had "handwriting order". To input the first kana of my name "juuitchan", I had to type shi and then dakuten. I don't have my book but with Unicode

FW: Re[2]: Business Case for i18n?

$B$k$k$k$k$k$k$k$k$k$k$k$k$k$k!#(BWe cannot seee it... $B$i$i$i$i$i$i$i$i$i$i$i$i$i$i$i$i$i$i$i$i$i$i$i$i$i$i$i$i$i$i$i$i$i$i$i$i$i$i$i$i$i$i$i$i$i$i$i$i$i$i(B no need to attach$B$k$k$k$k$k$k$k(Bkill Windows $B$i$s$^(B $B!z$8$e$&$$$C$A$c$s!z(B $B!!!_$"$+$M(B

Meaning of conscripts

Before using the word "conscripts", keep this in mind: Cyrillic, hangul, and hiragana are conscripts. $B$i$s$^(B $B!z$8$e$&$$$C$A$c$s!z(B $B!!!_$"$+$M(B $B!

Lenient search engine

A search engine regards the words "stone" and "STONE" as identical. So why isn't $B$$$7(B treated the same as $B%$%7(B? The difference can be quite marked, such as $B%l%$%W(B versus $B$l$$$W(B or such. Something I noticed in the Unicode 3.0 book: Case. (1) Feature of certain alphabets

How to tell Japanese from Chinese.

My very simple rule of thumb for telling Japanese from Chinese is to look for kana. If I see even one kana, I am looking at Japanese, right? (Warning: A few kanji resemble katakana.) So if I see so much as a hiragana "to", it's Japanese, right? But sometimes there are stretches of many kanji.

Weird characters that are hard to pigeonhole. (was: how to tell japanese from chinese)

$B$i$s$^(B $B!z$8$e$&$$$C$A$c$s!z(B $B!!!_$"$+$M(B $B!(B: Re: How to tell Japanese from Chinese. On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, [ISO-2022-JP] $B$F$s$I$&$j$e$&$8(B wrote: My very simple rule of thumb for telling Japanese from Chinese is to look for kana. If I see

medieval digit five

The medieval digit FIVE (that is, in modern digits, 5) looked like this: / | | | | | \| | | | / / Kind of. $B$i$s$^(B $B!z$8$e$&$$$C$A$c$s!z(B $B!!!_$"$+$M(B $B!

Math operators

Is the multiplication sign in my sig the same thing as the Unicode multiplication sign? I mean, what I get when I type "Kakeru" into my word processor? $B$i$s$^(B $B!z$8$e$&$$$C$A$c$s!z(B $B!!!_$"$+$M(B $B!(B: Re: Query, please help Well, I was assuming he meant things

RE: RECOMMENDATIONs( Term Asian is not used properly on Computers and NET)

Why not label the Korean language option that uses Hangul, "Korean (Hangul)"? The Japanese language version, you might label "Japanese (kanji/kana)". But I have seen a game that would be best labeled "Japanese (hiragana)"... unless "jampu" and "daibu" (jump and dive) are not Japanese words.

Re: Why call kanji/hanji/hanja 'ideographs' when almost none are?

Call 'em this: U+6F22 U+5B57 ($B4A;z(B). If you want to know what to call them in running English text, just call them "Han characters", since that is what the Asians call them in their own languages. I mean, who is the real U+3070 U+304B U+3084 U+308D U+3046 here??

Re: Query, please help

Europeans and their tiny charset! $B!z$8$e$&$$$C$A$c$s!z(B PTKA IZGT F SFNNGYGB ZRMSFTB WM NFEGT FM MGYWPRMKA FM F SFNNGYGB IWOG IWKK QGT FT IPQGT ZFXG GHRFK YWJZNM. I have a somewhat related question: With the Euro coming up in a mere seven months I still see the symbol mostly as an

Best way to get Unicode in JavaScript?

I like escape codes. $B!z$8$e$&$$$C$A$c$s!z(B PTKA IZGT F SFNNGYGB ZRMSFTB WM NFEGT FM MGYWPRMKA FM F SFNNGYGB IWOG IWKK QGT FT IPQGT ZFXG GHRFK YWJZNM.

RE: Some Char. to Glyph Statistics, Pan/Single Font

So does my Rurouni Kensin album go under R or under ru? Maybe ru is better because few words start with ru. $B!z$8$e$&$$$C$A$c$s!z(B "AIS TSXQ QDOO TD AISC TDQMIG, HYCTDL, ZIC HIIUPLB XSHM GDOPHPISX CYTDL." "QMD XDHCDQ, AIS XDD, PX QMDCD'X LI CDHPWD. P VSXQ WSQ RMYQ P MYED KA TA YCT PL."

RE: RECOMMENDATIONs( Term Asian is not used properly on Computers and NET)

Um. Okay, what is the font supposed to have? Is this list correct?? 1. Han 2. Kana 3. Hangul 4. Those many, many Latin letters with diacritics for Vietnamese use 5. Probably also ASCII and misc. Han punctuation and similar odds and ends (sigh) Are you sure you want just *one* box for that? I

RE: Term Asian is not used properly on Computers and NET

So say "Han font" or "Hanzi font". $B!z$8$e$&$$$C$A$c$s!z(B EKYWY TXLY NPZ P MPVD XPHYV LPWWQY NKT ZPN XT WYPZTX PE PMM ET HPWWD "EYX EKTSZPXV'Z HTWY GSX P XSHOYW EKPX TXY PXV LTHHQEHYXE, ET HY, QZ RSQEY ZLPWD"

RE: ISO vs Unicode UTF-8 (was RE: UTF-8 signature in web and email)

You can just say Screw the number 8, let's use 21-bit bytes. $B!z$8$e$&$$$C$A$c$s!z(B EKYWY TXLY NPZ P MPVD XPHYV LPWWQY NKT ZPN XT WYPZTX PE PMM ET HPWWD "EYX EKTSZPXV'Z HTWY GSX P XSHOYW EKPX TXY PXV LTHHQEHYXE, ET HY, QZ RSQEY ZLPWD" --- Original Message --- $B:9=P?M(B: "Carl W. Brown"

Re: Genesis v. UDHR?

Trying to translate an English sentence often causes problems. Does "hurt" mean 1. Injure 2. Cause pain to 3. Both? $B!z$8$e$&$$$C$A$c$s!z(B EKYWY TXLY NPZ P MPVD XPHYV LPWWQY NKT ZPN XT WYPZTX PE PMM ET HPWWD "EYX EKTSZPXV'Z HTWY GSX P XSHOYW EKPX TXY PXV LTHHQEHYXE, ET HY, QZ RSQEY ZLPWD"

Re: ISO vs Unicode UTF-8 (was RE: UTF-8 signature in web and email)

$B!z$8$e$&$$$C$A$c$s!z(B EKYWY TXLY NPZ P MPVD XPHYV LPWWQY NKT ZPN XT WYPZTX PE PMM ET HPWWD "EYX EKTSZPXV'Z HTWY GSX P XSHOYW EKPX TXY PXV LTHHQEHYXE, ET HY, QZ RSQEY ZLPWD" There was another abomination proposed. Oracle rather than adding UTF-16 support proposed that non plane 0

RE: UTF-8 signature in web and email

$B!z$8$e$&$$$C$A$c$s!z(B Encoding-aware program that "understand" Unicode, should treat U+FEFF according to its literal meaning: "a non-breaking space having zero width". I take it that U+FEFF is the Cheshire Cat's favorite character. What about that CLOSED OPEN E, also? I got quite a

Re: A Europe of fonts

I thought that Yiddish was a language without a home. $B!z$8$e$&$$$C$A$c$s!z(B --- Original Message --- $B:9=P?M(B: John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED]; $B08@h(B: Sorin Paliga [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED]; $BF|;~(B: 01/05/25 10:42 $B7oL>(B: Re: A Europe of

RE: Pan UniCode fonts

Um. How about having all non-zero-width characters be the same width? $B!z$8$e$&$$$C$A$c$s!z(B --- Original Message --- $B:9=P?M(B: "Carl W. Brown" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; $B08@h(B: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Cc: $BF|;~(B: 01/05/24 15:34 $B7oL>(B: RE: Pan UniCode fonts Bob, I have worked with

RE: Single Unicode Font

We want to be able to tell our characters apart. Oh by the way how do you tell LATIN CAPITAL LETTER P from GREEK CAPITAL LETTER RHO? Sure if you have context or if somebody pronounces them! Why is my name question marks down there? It should be Tendou Ryuuji (in hiragana).

RE: Single Unicode Font

$B!z$8$e$&$$$C$A$c$s!z(B I may want simplified Chinese for the han because I like smaller font sizes. Is it Chinese that you wish to write? Does any language besides Chinese use those characters? I mean: A certain anime character has as his name the Hanzi $BMpGO(B (I think I got

Re: [OT] bits and bytes

Line break is not a character. It is number thirteen, though, isn't it? $B!z$8$e$&$$$C$A$c$s!z(B Life is assuredly better today when word sizes, other than on some embedded processors, are now uniformly multiples of 8 bits, and characters are numbered starting from 0.

(OT) Internationalization: Han numerals

In Chinese, I think 100 is $B0lI4(B ("one hundred"), whereas in Japanese 100 is just $BI4(B ("hundred"). And in Japanese, zeros are not used when writing numbers a certain way: 205 is $BFsI48^(B, not $BFsI4Nm8^(B, although it can be $BFs!;8^(B. This is why to me the HTML option