Re: US-ASCII (was: Re: Invalid UTF-8 sequences)

2004-12-10 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: Kenneth Whistler [EMAIL PROTECTED] On the other hand, for many English speakers, RSVP is simply learned as an unanalyzed verb, pronounced aressveepee, meaning send a response to this message. And to castigate such speakers for politely prepending a please to that verb is a little too

Re: [even more increasingly OT-- into Sunday morning] Re: Unicode HTML, download

2004-11-21 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: Stefan Persson [EMAIL PROTECTED] I haven't used M$ IE for many years, though, and my memory might be wrong. Blinded by the misspelling of the product name, maybe? :-) See http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdnmag/issues/0700/localize/ and the section entitled Choosing Character Sets for info on

Re: [even more increasingly OT-- into Sunday morning] Re: Unicode HTML, download

2004-11-21 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
This is JScrript tags in HTML -- client side script. I do not if other browsers have solutions for this problem? Michael - Original Message - From: Christopher Fynn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Michael (michka) Kaplan [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Unicode List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 21

Re: basic-hebrew RtL-space ?

2004-11-04 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: kefas [EMAIL PROTECTED] That is easily done by assigning the U-codes to some keys on the keyboard, but I dont know how to combine this with the pressing and releasing of CAPS. MSKBLC.exe , keyboard-layout-creator, does not allow for that. Hmmm actually, if one puts the alternate

Re: bit notation in ISO-8859-x is wrong

2004-10-10 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
Not really a Unicode issue And not really a bug. Whether one calls the first item #0 or #1 is a regional or technical matter that is honestly somethind that does not matter. International standards (like 8859), football fans (we're #!!), and elevators (floor 1 in e.g. the US, floor 0 in e.g.

Re: Much better Latin-1 keyboard for Windows

2004-07-18 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.livejournal.com/users/gwalla/39856.html is a page about (and a link to) a truly excellent Windows keyboard driver that provides full access to the Latin-1 range but is completely compatible with the US-ASCII keyboard except for AltGr (the right

Re: Looking for transcription or transliteration standards latin- arabic

2004-07-09 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: Peter Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] But Kaplan is referring to something quite different, optionally ignoring diacritics in search operations. This is indeed desirable, so that a single search can match both Dvorak and Dvok for example, and so that the one doing the search does not need to

Re: Looking for transcription or transliteration standards latin- arabic

2004-07-08 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: Michael Everson [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think it's stupid (in general) to argue for stripping a letter of diacritics. If a reader is ignorant of their meaning, that can be cured. But if they are meaningful, stripping them is just misspelling the words they belong to. Why would anyone want

Re: Proposal to encode dominoes and other game symbols

2004-05-26 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: Michael Everson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 5:35 AM Subject: Re: Proposal to encode dominoes and other game symbols At 13:09 +0100 2004-05-26, Michael Everson wrote: Just because someone hasn't put them on a web page (in a clumsy graphic) yet

Re: ISO 15924

2004-05-20 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
Fix the typo and the kingdom shall be your bounty MichKa P.S. Hint: the subject is smarter than the body. - Original Message - From: Mahesh T. Pai [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 7:49 PM Subject: Re: ISO 15924 Michael Everson said on Fri, May 21,

Re: Response to Everson Phoenician and why June 7?

2004-05-19 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
I would respecfully suggest that Dr. Stephen A. Kaufman will need to come up with a more convincing or (and probably and) professional argument than this one if he wants it to be taken seriously by people who have a very good understanding of both Unicode and glyphs, and who further have a serious

Re: Philippe's Management of Microsoft (was: Re: Yoruba Keyboard)

2004-05-07 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: Philippe Verdy [EMAIL PROTECTED] And my comment here was not about Microsoft should manage its business snip the rest Its still offtopic. Please take it to alt.microsoft.sucks or whatever other forum you feel might be appropriate. :-) Once a thread goes bad it is hard to convert it back

Re: Philippe's Management of Microsoft (was: Re: Yoruba Keyboard)

2004-05-07 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
the codepage warnings in the View|Options dialog. MichKa [MS] NLS Collation/Locale/Keyboard Development Globalization Infrastructure and Font Technologies - Original Message - From: African Oracle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael (michka) Kaplan [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Unicode List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent

Re: Standardize TimeZone ID

2004-04-25 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: Michael Everson [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 08:49 -0700 2004-04-25, Mark Davis wrote: There is a different committee mailing list than the one for the UTC. However, for the public [EMAIL PROTECTED] list it didn't seem worth having separate public list yet. (After all, much of the material on

Re: Standardize TimeZone ID

2004-04-24 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
If the officers believw that rather than the UTC that a new committee is needed to govern the repository, then it stands to reason that the Unicode List is the wrong place for locales a separate list for discussions related to that standard is the most sensible approach. MichKa [MS] NLS

Re: OT? Languages with letters that always take diacriticals

2004-03-16 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: Marion Gunn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Irish in Roman script is written i with dot above, Irish in traditional script is written i without dot above. The current flooding of our local advertising and publishing markets by various non-native uncial fonts to write our language goes against

Re: Version(s) of Unicode supported by various versions of Microsoft Windows

2004-03-05 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
This is one of those really hard to define questions, given how many pieces actually define what gets bundled under the term Windows. The KB article is not being entirely fair by taking the lowest level that exists and assuming that the entire platform must be designed that way. Given that core

Re: Version(s) of Unicode supported by various versions of Microsoft Windows

2004-03-05 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: Antoine Leca [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, I do not believe this is the most adequate place to discuss this, For what it is worth, I agree with you on that point. :-) Now, the file in XP is still exactly 262144 bytes in size. To me, this is evidence that only the BMP characters did receive

Re: [OT?] Modifying (Unicode) sorting of languages using diacritics in MS Word and MS SQL Server

2004-02-27 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: Patrick Andries [EMAIL PROTECTED] [PA] Yes, the GUI tool is very nice. So easy to use in theory that I don't understand why it is only available in English (i.e. one does not need to be a techie and thus know English to be able or want to use this tool). Well, the tool is localizable,

Re: [OT?] Modifying (Unicode) sorting of languages using diacritics in MS Word and MS SQL Server

2004-02-23 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: Patrick Andries [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have the same question for MS SQL Server 2000... Similar answer to the one Chris gave for Word, though with a slightly older version of the Windows sort tables Finally, I would like to know if it is possible for a user to add an

Re: Install regional language setting options of system through program

2004-02-13 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
Not really a Unicode question, but For just adding keyboards, you will likely be able to more easily use the LoadKeyboardLayout API. To change individual settings within a chosen user locale, you can use the SetLocaleInfo API. For other settings, see

Re: UTF8 locale shell encoding

2004-01-16 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: Philippe Verdy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Exactly. However the conversion to UTF-8 from UTF-16 (the Windows WideChar encoding used in the Win32 Unicode API) is supported natively in MultibyteToWideChar() as if it was a SBCD/DBCS character set, even on Windows 95. This is incorrect. UTF-8

Re: UTF8 locale shell encoding

2004-01-16 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: Philippe Verdy [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Michael (michka) Kaplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is incorrect. UTF-8 support did not exist until Win98 for the Win9x family, and did not exist until NT4 for the WinNT family. Even after system updates? Even after system updates. The support does

Re: Pre-1923 characters?

2004-01-03 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: Michael Everson [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 09:03 -0800 2004-01-03, Peter Kirk wrote: But in the light of naming errors like this one implementers should be advised not to use character names, because they are not reliably helpful. I wouldn't say that. It would better to advise them, as we

Re: Windows and MacOS keyboard layouts in human-readable format?

2003-12-30 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: Doug Ewell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Michael is right, of course, that the differences between keyboards amount to more than just the basic layout and Shift and AltGr keys. There are custom shifting keys, dead keys, and unusual uses of Caps Lock, not to mention Far Eastern IMEs. But I don't

Re: Windows and MacOS keyboard layouts in human-readable format?

2003-12-30 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: Adam Twardoch [EMAIL PROTECTED] I agree with Michael that the simplistic approach I have envisioned would be rather incomplete -- I'm willing to accept that limitation. I am aware of many issues involving IMEs, chaining dead keys etc. I would be willing to leave them out of the scope,

Re: Windows and MacOS keyboard layouts in human-readable format?

2003-12-29 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
Such a format for Windows would be quite inadequate since it is missing many things, such as: 1) The version of Windows in which it first shipped (there were minor differences in what was in 9x vs. NT, and on NT some characters were added to keyboards in later versions). 2) The fact that many

Re: Windows and MacOS keyboard layouts in human-readable format?

2003-12-29 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: Philippe Verdy [EMAIL PROTECTED] If the intent is to display in a user interface which keystroke the user must press to create a character sequence it can be useful to know the character generated in the default state without modifiers (or the character generated in CAPSLOCK mode).

Re: Unicode Conferences - Which one?

2003-12-10 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
I would have to say (as someone who is presenting at both of them!) that it really depends on the platform upon which you are developing and to some extent how much you really feel you need to know about particular topics. The GDDC will cover more info about Microsoft technologies than the IUC

Re: Fonts on Web Pages

2003-12-02 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: Carl W. Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] I use Microsoft WEFT to embed fonts. I have had complaints that it does not run on non-Windows platforms but then Bitstream does not either. The problem with Bitstream is that it requires an active-x control to be installed and many people will not do

Re: MS Windows and Unicode 4.0 ?

2003-12-01 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
You are correct, Mark. I could probably intrigue people with tales of attempts at file systems that change their rules based on locale settings, but mostly it would just cause nightmares for anyone who understood what a bad idea that would be. Suffice to day that Windows will not boot if I != i in

Re: MS Windows and Unicode 4.0 ?

2003-12-01 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
I know I'll end up regretting this From: Philippe Verdy [EMAIL PROTECTED] That far? So why isn't there correct support of UTF-16 on Windows 95OSR2, 98, 98SE and ME (notably for their FAT32 filesystem)? I can understand it for Windows 95 and 95OSR1 as they were designed before, and may be

Re: Unicode for Windows CE

2003-11-29 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
I also sincrely doubt that MSKLC will create keyboards that will work on a CE device, to tell you the truth. Maybe they do, but they have never been tested there and I would be surprised if they had no problems (never forget the First Tester's Axiom!). MichKa [MS] NLS Collation/Locale/Keyboard

Re: creating a test font w/ CJKV Extension B characters.

2003-11-20 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: Frank Yung-Fong Tang [EMAIL PROTECTED] so.. in summary, how is your concusion about the quality of GB18030 support on IE6/Win2K ? If you run the same test on Mozilla / Netscape 7.0, what is your conclusion about that quality of support? In Summary? Well, in summry, I fail to see how

Re: How can I input any Unicode character if I know its hexadecimal code?

2003-11-15 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: Patrick Andries [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was enquiring about ways of using Unicode on a popular platform (Windows). I'm terribly sorry to enquire about a practical issue. No need to apologize. How about a practical answer? :-) If you install the Chinese (Traditional) - Unicode IME as an

Re: How can I input any Unicode character if I know its hexadecimal code?

2003-11-15 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] input of this interesting IME that is expecting UTF-16 code units ... Oh, you did mention that, didn't you? I wonder if surrogate pairs will work here... They will. Its fairly cool, if you ask me. Ignore Philippe's ramblings here, they are offtopic and hav nothing

Re: How can I input any Unicode character if I know its hexadecimal code?

2003-11-15 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: Philippe Verdy [EMAIL PROTECTED] May be that's something to suggest to Microsoft for inclusion in a future version of its wonderful MSKLB tool, You mean MSKLC? I hope the B in your exposition stands for Bodacious or something which works great to create keyboard drivers for

Re: How can I input any Unicode character if I know its hexadecimal code?

2003-11-15 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: Peter Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 15/11/2003 09:08, Philippe Verdy wrote: ... (also in Hebrew and Arabic for vowel points and marks which should better be entered with a logical order after the base letter, even if they produce combining sequences to the application through the WM_CHAR

Re: How can I input any Unicode character if I know its hexadecimal code?

2003-11-15 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: Patrick Andries [EMAIL PROTECTED] I would like to input arbitrary hexadecimal Unicode values in an application (XMetal) which does not seem to use the RichEdit control. See my other post for the answer to this question. Unfortunately, I don't seem to be able to key in a large decimal

Re: How can I input any Unicode character if I know its hexadecimal code?

2003-11-15 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: Philippe Verdy [EMAIL PROTECTED] As far as I know, an application has little control on the subset of character it can accept from an IME, or keyboard driver, and if some characters in the generated combining sequence are ignored, and some other are accepted, it creates a new sequence

Re: Hacek - Typing from a keyboard... Help!!!!

2003-10-29 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: Toyin Ryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am trying to type the 'hacek' diacritic mark above 'c' and 'e' and also a straight line (not a tilda) above characters too. The hacek is a diacritic mark used in the Czech and Lithuanian languages. It looks like an upside-down circumflex or a pointed

Re: [indic] Re: Unicode Collation Algorithm: 4.0 Update (beta)

2003-08-17 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
These collation tables have one and only one of the following two problems: A) If these are intended to be language-specific tailorings then a strong warning about the linguistic inapplicabilty needs to be added, since the data is actually incorrect for the use of most of these scripts. B) If

Re: Hexadecimal

2003-08-16 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have ever wondered if you are in hell, John Cowan it has been said, then you are on a well-traveled http://www.ccil.org/~cowan road of spiritual inquiry. If you are absolutely http://www.reutershealth.com sure you are in hell, however, then

Re: Vurtual Keyboard!

2003-07-24 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: Peter Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 24/07/2003 04:33, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How to map the code values of the key boards with the code values for the alphabet given with different Code pages of any scripts such as devanagari, gujarati etc. If you are using Windows, you might

Re: [OT] French Government Bans the Term 'E-Mail'

2003-07-21 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: Michael Everson [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't know what the i in the iLifestyle suite (iChat, iPhoto, iBook, iThis, iThat) means. For developers, a capital I usually means interface -- in code certainly but then often applied in life as only geeks can do. I have fond memories of not too

Re: About the European MES-2 subset

2003-07-20 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
Well, I thought Arial Unicode MS is a little pricey for just putting it anywhere? I may be wrong here (and I have no idea how much is costs, really), but the huge size compared to megafonts like Code2000, which is based in part on the rich Arial typeface heritage, also makes it a font of some

Re: About the European MES-2 subset

2003-07-18 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
A question mark is a sign of a bad conversion from Unicode (to a code page that did not contain the character). This would likely happen on the Mac too rather than the Last Resort font, wouldn't it? On Windows, the cannot find a font for it situation is the NULL glyph. The Last Resort font is

Re: About the European MES-2 subset

2003-07-18 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
Subject: Re: About the European MES-2 subset At 15:45 -0700 2003-07-18, Michael \(michka\) Kaplan wrote: A question mark is a sign of a bad conversion from Unicode (to a code page that did not contain the character). This would likely happen on the Mac too rather than the Last Resort font, wouldn't

Re: [OT] Re: ISO 639 duplicate codes

2003-07-12 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: Doug Ewell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Of course, if this is your belief, you are not alone. The ISO 3166 Maintenance Agency has now spent five months debating and voting on the question of what new codes for Serbia and Montenegro should replace YU and YUG used for Yugoslavia, while some people

Re: Major Defect in Combining Classes of Tibetan Vowels

2003-06-25 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
Let me add that this was the case recently for Hebrew (to mention on example). So it is certainly not impossible. But we have enough real work to do that we should do our best to veer from the theoretical. :-) MichKa - Original Message - From: Michael (michka) Kaplan [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Major Defect in Combining Classes of Tibetan Vowels

2003-06-25 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
Thank you for [indirectly] making my point for me. I am saying that if someone has an issue that *does* make a difference then they should bring it up. Otherwise, I say that a difference that makes no difference, make no difference. And we can move on to actual problems. :-) MichKa -

Re: Revised N2586R

2003-06-23 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
(reminded of a South Park Episode... the spelling bee in Hooked on Monkey Phonics) excerpt: - MAYOR: Here we go - kroxldyphivc. KYLE: What?!? MAYOR: kroxldyphivc. KYLE: Definition? MAYOR: Something which has a kroxldyph-like quality. KYLE: Uh, could you use it in a

Re: [OT] No more IE for Mac

2003-06-14 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
- Original Message - From: Philippe Verdy [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip Philippe's message This is an equal opportunity forum intended for discussion of issues relative to Unicode, an industrial consortium that includes (among many others) the companies you are talking about. Excessive

Re: Exciting new software release!

2003-04-03 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: William Overington [EMAIL PROTECTED] It certainly is exciting! Whoosh! MichKa

Re: New contribution

2003-04-01 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
Well, at least I can remember the date with these types of reminders. :-) MichKa - Original Message - From: Thomas Milo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Michael Everson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 8:39 AM Subject: Re:

Re: Characters for Cakchiquel

2003-03-28 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: Kenneth Whistler [EMAIL PROTECTED] and any such sequences as quatrillo con coma or tz which need to be handled as units simply get contractions defined for them in the collation element weighting tables. Or other, analogous methods to obtain the same results (for products that do not

Re: Several BOMs in the same file

2003-03-23 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
You can remove a per-file prefix, certainly. This would make sense. But if you do not, what is the harm of a character that you cannot see and which does not even have width or cause line breaking behavior? Realistically, what would the problem be? MichKa - Original Message - From:

Re: sorting order between win98/xp

2003-03-14 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
with their repro scenario, if they have one (I don't think they do, as the code on the NT platforms does not have this functionality, even as an option). MichKa - Original Message - From: Yung-Fong Tang [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael (michka) Kaplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent

Re: sorting order between win98/xp

2003-03-13 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: Yung-Fong Tang [EMAIL PROTECTED] One of my colleague ask me this question. In the interests of completeness The function that does the type of sorting your colleague noted is StrCmpLogicalW in shlwapi.dll, version 5.5 and later. See the following link for more information (all on one

Re: sorting order between win98/xp

2003-03-13 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
LCMapString does not do the reported behavior either. ComparesString and LCMapString are based on the same data and return the same results. Your colleague is mistaken. MichKa - Original Message - From: Yung-Fong Tang [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael (michka) Kaplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc

Re: sorting order between win98/xp

2003-03-12 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: Dominikus Scherkl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yeah! One of the best features of XP - finaly I don't need to insert leading zeroes to filenames to get them in the proper order (even 9a is sorted before 10). Anyone know is there a way to make them sort in the same order? Why should anybody

Re: sorting order between win98/xp

2003-03-12 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: Doug Ewell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Note that I'm speaking in terms of programmable sorting. I really don't care how filenames in Windows Explorer are sorted. Sigh I wonder if my mail made it to the list? Doug, Frank was wrong (or arther his colleague was wrong). CompareString does not

Re: sorting order between win98/xp

2003-03-11 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: Yung-Fong Tang [EMAIL PROTECTED] One of my colleague ask me this question. Not much to do with Unicode, though. Is it? We use LCMapStringW on WinXP and LCMapStringA on Win98 (by using LCMAP_SORTKEY ). And we got different sorting order for the following Example of message list

Re: UTF-8 Error Handling (was: Re: Unicode 4.0 BETA available for review)

2003-03-02 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: Mark Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] I agree with Kent that it is somewhat less robust to simply remove ill-formed sequences, since it removes any indication that the data was corrupted. Nice that the API gives one the option to choose, huh? ;-) The notion of continuing (even if one is

Re: DBCS and Unicode 3.1

2003-02-17 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
Well, DBCS means double byte character set and thus it is always two bytes. But its a theoretical definition since there are no actual DBCS code pages -- all of the ones that exist are MBCS (multibyte character set) since they support both one-byte and two-byte characters. There are standards

Re: BOM's at Beginning of Web Pages?

2003-02-16 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
] Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 11:20 AM Subject: Re: BOM's at Beginning of Web Pages? At 19:10 -0800 2003-02-15, Michael \(michka\) Kaplan wrote:±± Of course if I had a penny for every byte that has been used discussing these three bytes sometimes found at the beginning of a UTF-8 document

Re: BOM's at Beginning of Web Pages?

2003-02-15 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: Roozbeh Pournader [EMAIL PROTECTED] PS: UTF-16 is an exception to that, since the BOM is not part of the document and should be removed for processing. And to whatever extent UTF-8 has a BOM, it would fall under the same category. Certainly that is how processors that understand the

Re: BOM's at Beginning of Web Pages?

2003-02-15 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: Roozbeh Pournader [EMAIL PROTECTED] I agree, but the Unicode web age is the buggy thing here, not the specific browser that was reported earlier to have a problem with it. That's all my point. One should fix the Unicode web page instead of that browser. If the problem was indeed due to

Re: CJK test data

2003-02-06 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1) Sorting Test a) include a list of un-ordered strings. b) follow that with the same list, ordered properly. GB18030 does not define a specific standard for sorting (as far as I know, neither does GB13000). It is an encoding standard. Since

Re: unicode in Mac

2003-01-26 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
Well, that opening byte is either a BOM or its ZWNBSP. Either way its something you would not really see if the either the app or the rendering engine understand Unicode MichKa - Original Message - From: Michael Everson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January

Re: Precomposed Tibetan

2002-12-17 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: Michael Everson [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 13:53 -0800 2002-12-17, Kenneth Whistler wrote: The question for Unicoders is whether introduction of significant normalization problems into Tibetan (for everyone) is a worthwhile tradeoff for this claimed legacy ease of transition for one system,

Re: Order in which unicode charactoers displayed

2002-12-07 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
This is an expected behavior. Ii has to do with the Endian-ness of the processor on which you are running. From the glossary (http://www.unicode.org/glossary/): Little-endian. A computer architecture that stores multiple-byte numerical values with the least significant byte (LSB) values first.

Re: CJK fonts

2002-12-02 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
Hello Raymond, If you have Chinese Office XP and the font in question (Simsun Founder Extended), then you already have all of the contents of http://i18nwithvb.com/surrogate_ime/ , in Chinese -- the translation on the web site is just a handy adjunct for people who do not understand Chinese. :-)

Re: IBM AIX 5 and GB18030

2002-11-14 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: Carl W. Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] Other companies like Microsoft took a very big gamble and implemented the code for surrogate support into Windows 2000 based on early drafts of the Unicode standard. If they had not done it this way or had guessed wrong they might not even have support

Re: Emergency help required!

2002-11-14 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
This person has installed an application that is attempting to use the Unicode version of ATL.DLL on Win9x, which will fail (this is expected). This error would not be related to the freeze (it is code that causes the load to fail right after clicking OK to the messagebox); the freeze might be

Re: Speaking of Plane 1 characters...

2002-11-11 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: Michael Everson [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 12:10 -0700 2002-11-11, John Hudson wrote: Many thanks to the various people who recommended Michael Kaplan's calculator at http://trigeminal.com/16to32AndBack.asp This is excellent and solves my problem. Glad you like it, John -- I am sure James

Re: Speaking of Plane 1 characters...

2002-11-11 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: John Hudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 13:50 11/11/2002, Michael Everson wrote: By the way MichKa if you make the boxes a bit wider the whole string of numbers would display. I noticed the same problem in Opera. It's okay in IE. Ah, if I called *that* by design, someone might accuse me of

Re: PRODUCING and DESCRIBING UTF-8 with and without BOM

2002-11-04 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: Joseph Boyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for the dozens of responses discussing consumers' behavior on UTF-8 BOM. This is actually not what I'm concerned with, as I have to take it as a given that there is both software that wants UTF-8 BOM and software that doesn't want it. Could we

Re: PRODUCING and DESCRIBING UTF-8 with and without BOM

2002-11-04 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: Joseph Boyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Joesph, Software currently under development could use the identifiers for choosing whether to require or emit BOM, like the file requirements checker I have to write, and ICU/uconv. Lets separate that into the two issuse it represents: EMITTING: They

Re: PRODUCING and DESCRIBING UTF-8 with and without BOM

2002-11-04 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: Joseph Boyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] No, the notation to say BOM required (report any files without BOM), BOM not allowed (report any files with BOM), or BOM optional (only report files if they are not valid UTF-8 at all), for a given file type. Well, yes. If you wanted to avoid making it

Re: Names for UTF-8 with and without BOM

2002-11-03 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In particular, I'm thinking of a situation about a year and a half ago (IIRC) in which Michael (and I and others) were strongly opposed to a suggestion that the Unicode Consortium should document a certain variation (perversion, some would say) of one of the Unicode

Re: Names for UTF-8 with and without BOM

2002-11-03 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: Mark Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ironic that for the purpose of dealing with THREE bytes that so many bytes are being wasted. :-) Little probability that right double quote would appear at the start of a document either. Doesn't mean that you are free to delete it (*and* say that you are

Re: Names for UTF-8 with and without BOM

2002-11-02 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: Mark Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] That is not sufficient. The first three bytes could represent a real content character, ZWNBSP or they could be a BOM. The label doesn't tell you. There are several problems with this supposition -- most notably the fact that there are cases that specifically

Re: Names for UTF-8 with and without BOM

2002-11-02 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: Joseph Boyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Type Encoding Comment .txt UTF-8BOM We want plain text files to have BOM to distinguish from legacy codepage files Not really required, but optional -- the perfomance hit of making sure its valid UTF-8 is pretty minor. But people do open some *huge* text

Re: Names for UTF-8 with and without BOM

2002-11-02 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: Joseph Boyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] These are listed as examples to demonstrate the idea of a configuration file listing encoding constraints. The fact that each constraint is arguable is a good reason to make the constraints configurable, and therefore to have names to distinguish BOM and

Re: Names for UTF-8 with and without BOM

2002-11-02 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
is an unrealistic one. MichKa - Original Message - From: Tex Texin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael (michka) Kaplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Mark Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 11:08 AM Subject: Re: Names for UTF-8 with and without BOM Michael (michka

Re: how to display Unicode

2002-10-29 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
No links to give, just a note to warn you that VB itself converts text that it puts into the RichEdit control from Unicode when it assigns the text. Technically the control supports Unicode since its interfaces are Unicode. but this conversion does limit the text that can be supported.

Re: Character identities

2002-10-28 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
All this talk about the letter A reminded me of something from Hofstadter: The problem of intelligence, as I see it is to understand the fluid nature of mental categories, to understand the invariant cores of percepts such as your mother’s face, to understand the strangely flexible yet strong

Re: Nedd Help

2002-10-19 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: nandu patil I wanted to do all encodings in C++ so i can write a library (DLL) which will handle all this stuff Do you need to communicate with other applications that do not support Unicode? If not, then you have no need to support encodings at all (since you are using Unicode and you

Re: Hindi keyboard with the Microsoft Hindi font Mangal

2002-10-15 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: Doug Ewell [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's too bad you can't see that combination on the Javascript keyboards at Globaldev. The use of either CTRL or CTRLSHIFT shift states in Microsoft-supplied keyboards is very rare. The reason it is rare is that it interferes with programs that use those

Re: Ligature and VB

2002-10-07 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: Gopal Krishan In one of my VB project, I'm sending PostMessage API function to send character of my desired value to control. e.g. If I need to send character J to the keyboard, I'm using dim s as Long s = PostMessage(Text1.hwnd, WM_CHAR, 99, 0) where 99 is the ASCII value of

Re: unsuscribe

2002-10-04 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
Allow us to help you once more: http://unicode.org/unicode/consortium/distlist.html#3 It contains the info on how to unsubscribe, and if you scroll down a bit it gives information on what to do if you have problems unsubscribing. MichKa - Original Message - From: Amruthavakkula,

Re: unallocated Unicode character and VB

2002-10-03 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
The AscW() function in VB gives the code point of the first character in the string it is passed (it is basically the inverse of ChrW). MichKa - Original Message - From: Magda Danish (Unicode) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 10:06 AM Subject:

Re: please unsubsribe me

2002-10-03 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
Allow us to help you once more: http://unicode.org/unicode/consortium/distlist.html#3 (contains the info on how to unsubscribe) MichKa - Original Message - From: Jason To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 8:55 PM Subject: please unsubsribe me

Re: Romanized Cyrillic bibliographic data--viable fonts?)

2002-08-30 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
What scares me was that I puzzled that out almost instantly -- I felt like I was watching Wheel of Fortune or something. ;-) MichKa - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 9:03 AM Subject: RE: Romanized Cyrillic

Re: Romanized Cyrillic bibliographic data--viable fonts?)

2002-08-30 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: Michael Everson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Only because so few people think that fonts are worth paying for that people who really OUGHT to be earning their living by making fonts have to do other things. There's something really wrong with that model. Isn't there? Of course, one could also

Re: [OT] cover sheet standards - summary

2002-08-20 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: Janusz S. Bie [EMAIL PROTECTED] The summary is very short: I got *no* answer to my query. Well, it *is* a question that really has nothing to do with Unicode, a character encoding standard. Perhaps some of you may suggest a more responsive forum? Well, something on topic would likely

Any day can be April 1st? (was: An idea for keeping U+FFFC usable)

2002-08-16 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: William Overington [EMAIL PROTECTED] Could this be discussed at the Unicode Technical Committee meeting next week please? whoosh William, Please read Ken's message again. He was *talking* about HTML, and pointing out how all of these things are supported in browsers already. You will

Re: Backward accent order

2002-08-09 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
AFAIK reverse diacritic are unique to French -- of course French is spoken in a lot of different locales. ;-) MichKa - Original Message - From: Ake Persson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Unicode List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 3:58 AM Subject: Backward accent order The

Re: A new word for the English language

2002-08-03 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: Tex Texin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Simply throwing out terms and definitions, without establishing a need and ignoring existing industry terms, seems to be a self-inflating and glory-seeking action, rather than a desire to make a helpful contribution. Just so. I mention this not as an

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