Correct.
Just a note: the current hyphenation is Bä-cker (as I wrote in a previous
email) ( https://www.duden.de/rechtschreibung/Baecker )
2017-11-10 4:27 GMT+01:00 Philippe Verdy via Unicode :
> So this is effectively (custom HTML-like markup)
> "Bäck-ker"
>
>
>
So this is effectively (custom HTML-like markup)
"Bäck-ker"
2017-11-10 4:11 GMT+01:00 Asmus Freytag via Unicode :
> On 11/9/2017 6:40 PM, Elias Mårtenson via Unicode wrote:
>
> On 9 November 2017 at 18:12, Walter Tross wrote:
>
>> Long story short:
2017-11-10 3:40 GMT+01:00 Elias Mårtenson via Unicode :
> On 9 November 2017 at 18:12, Walter Tross wrote:
>
>> Long story short: it's Abschlusssatz now (and Rollladen, etc.) One of the
>> criteria of the reform was to normalise hyphenation. This has
On 11/9/2017 6:40 PM, Elias Mårtenson
via Unicode wrote:
On 9 November 2017 at 18:12, Walter
Tross
wrote:
Long story short: it's Abschlusssatz now
(and
On 9 November 2017 at 18:12, Walter Tross wrote:
> Long story short: it's Abschlusssatz now (and Rollladen, etc.) One of the
> criteria of the reform was to normalise hyphenation. This has gone so far
> as to hyphenate Bä-cker, with the additional criterion of keeping the
Long story short: it's Abschlusssatz now (and Rollladen, etc.) One of the
criteria of the reform was to normalise hyphenation. This has gone so far
as to hyphenate Bä-cker, with the additional criterion of keeping the c
inside its group.
2017-11-09 9:47 GMT+01:00 Elias Mårtenson via Unicode
On 4 July 2017 at 00:49, Werner LEMBERG via Unicode
wrote:
>
> > No, the hyphenation oddity involving the addition of letters with
> > hyphenation (or, to be more precise, to suppress letters in
> > unhyphenated words) never affected the letter s.
>
> I'm not sure that this
On 04.07.2017 12:19, Otto Stolz via Unicode wrote:
I was referring to contemporary writing systems. Indeed, several east European
languages (including, e. g. Latvian) were written in blackletter, with German
sound-letter correspondence, before they developped their own writing systems.
Sure.
Hello,
on 03.07.2017 19:01, Otto Stolz via Unicode wrote:
Since German ist the only language using “ß” (if I am not mistaken), […]
Am 2017-07-03 um 20:15 Uhr hat Gerrit Ansmann geschrieben:
Some old Sorbian (blackletter) orthographies also employed the ß. It was
also used at the beginning of
On 03.07.2017 19:01, Otto Stolz via Unicode wrote:
Since German ist the only language using “ß” (if I am not mistaken), […]
Some old Sorbian (blackletter) orthographies also employed the ß. It was also
used at the beginning of words where it was capitalised to Sſ at the beginning
of
a.lukyanov wrote:
> Is it possible to design fonts that will render ẞ as SS?
>
> So we could choose between ẞ and SS by just selecting the proper font,
> without changing the text itself.
>
> Or perhaps there will be a "font feature" to select this rendering
> within the same font.
I thought
Hello,
am 2017-06-30 um 17:34 Uhr hat Michael Everson geschrieben:
It would be sensible to case-map ß to ẞ however.
Since German ist the only language using “ß” (if I am
not mistaken), Unicode should comply with the official
German orthographic rules with respect to this letter.
As I have
> No, the hyphenation oddity involving the addition of letters with
> hyphenation (or, to be more precise, to suppress letters in
> unhyphenated words) never affected the letter s.
I'm not sure that this is really true. As far as I know, `sss' in
Swiss German was handled similar to other
Hello,
am 2017-07-03 um 18:16 Uhr habe ich geschrieben:
This rule did hold for all consonants, there’s nothing
particular about double-s.
On 2017-07-03 at 18:05 Jörg Knappen had written:
the hyphenation oddity … never affected the letter s.
Jörg is right. I forgot the additional rule that
, the hyphenation oddity is removed completely.
--Jörg Knappen
Gesendet: Montag, 03. Juli 2017 um 09:43 Uhr
Von: "Alastair Houghton" <alast...@alastairs-place.net>
An: "Jörg Knappen" <jknap...@web.de>
Cc: a.lukya...@yspu.org, unicode@unicode.org
Betreff: Re: LATIN C
On 2 Jul 2017, at 16:59, Jörg Knappen via Unicode wrote:
>
> > Is it possible to design fonts that will render ẞ as SS?
>
> In fact, that has happened long before the capital letter sharp s was added
> to Unicode: The T1 encoding (aka Cork encoding) of LaTeX
> does this
Now that it has been added, however, the situation is different.
> On 2 Jul 2017, at 16:59, Jörg Knappen via Unicode wrote:
>
> > Is it possible to design fonts that will render ẞ as SS?
>
> In fact, that has happened long before the capital letter sharp s was added
>
all caps.
--Jörg Knappen
Gesendet: Samstag, 01. Juli 2017 um 08:51 Uhr
Von: "a.lukyanov via Unicode" <unicode@unicode.org>
An: unicode@unicode.org
Betreff: Re: LATIN CAPITAL LETTER SHARP S officially recognized
Is it possible to design fonts that will render ẞ as SS?
On Sat, 01 Jul 2017 09:51:00 +0300
"a.lukyanov via Unicode" wrote:
> Is it possible to design fonts that will render ẞ as SS?
>
> So we could choose between ẞ and SS by just selecting the proper
> font, without changing the text itself.
>
> Or perhaps there will be a "font
On 1 Jul 2017, at 10:34, Werner LEMBERG via Unicode wrote:
> It's even more complicated. Take for example the word `Straße'
> (street), which gets capitalized as `STRASSE’.
Or as STRAẞE.
> In Germany and Austria this word gets hyphenated as `STRA-SSE' (since
>
> > Is it possible to design fonts that will render ẞ as SS?
> >
> > So we could choose between ẞ and SS by just selecting the proper
> > font, without changing the text itself.
>
> I think, and others agree, that this is a bad thing. Those who want
> SS can simply use 'S' and 'S', ẞ was
.
On Sat, 7/1/17, a.lukyanov via Unicode <unicode@unicode.org> wrote:
Subject: Re: LATIN CAPITAL LETTER SHARP S officially recognized
To: unicode@unicode.org
Received: Saturday, July 1, 2017, 2:51 AM
Is it possible to design fonts that will
render ẞ as SS?
So we could choose bet
Is it possible to design fonts that will render ẞ as SS?
So we could choose between ẞ and SS by just selecting the proper font,
without changing the text itself.
Or perhaps there will be a "font feature" to select this rendering
within the same font.
Letters in some scripts are a class of two or more characters. Usually, all
letters have the same number of such case variants. Rarely, characters may be
constituents of different letters within the same script. A closed set of
letters, usually with a canonical sort order, makes an alphabet.
True but this only applies to "simple case mappings" (those in the main
datatase), not to extended mappings (which are locale dependant, such as
mappings for dotted and undotted i in Turkish).
So the extended mappings can perfectly be changed for German: they are not
part of the stability policy
On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 5:34 PM, Michael Everson via Unicode
wrote:
>
> It would be sensible to case-map ß to ẞ however.
I’m hoping this can happen — converting ß to SS is lossy, so mapping
to ẞ would be far superior.
However,
It would be sensible to case-map ß to ẞ however.
> On 30 Jun 2017, at 16:29, Otto Stolz via Unicode wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> der Rat für deutsche Rechtschreibung which is responsible for the further
> development of the official German orthography has finally recognized
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