Re: Aw: Re: LATIN CAPITAL LETTER SHARP S officially recognized

2017-11-10 Thread Walter Tross via Unicode 
Correct.
Just a note: the current hyphenation is Bä-cker (as I wrote in a previous
email) ( https://www.duden.de/rechtschreibung/Baecker )

2017-11-10 4:27 GMT+01:00 Philippe Verdy via Unicode :

> So this is effectively (custom HTML-like markup)
>   "Bäck-ker"
>
>
> 2017-11-10 4:11 GMT+01:00 Asmus Freytag via Unicode :
>
>> On 11/9/2017 6:40 PM, Elias Mårtenson via Unicode wrote:
>>
>> On 9 November 2017 at 18:12, Walter Tross  wrote:
>>
>>> Long story short: it's Abschlusssatz now (and Rollladen, etc.) One of
>>> the criteria of the reform was to normalise hyphenation. This has gone so
>>> far as to hyphenate Bä-cker, with the additional criterion of keeping the c
>>> inside its group.
>>>
>>
>> Wow. That looks incredibly strange to me. Thanks for informing me of this
>> change, I would probably have thought it to be a typo if I saw that
>> written. As for Bäcker, I presume the previous hyphenation was Bäck-er?
>>
>>
>> no, Bäk-ker ...
>>
>> (at least that's how it would be written in Swedish). Is this still
>> allowed? I.e. are the hyphenation points Bä-ck-er?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Elias
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: Aw: Re: LATIN CAPITAL LETTER SHARP S officially recognized

2017-11-09 Thread Philippe Verdy via Unicode 
So this is effectively (custom HTML-like markup)
  "Bäck-ker"


2017-11-10 4:11 GMT+01:00 Asmus Freytag via Unicode :

> On 11/9/2017 6:40 PM, Elias Mårtenson via Unicode wrote:
>
> On 9 November 2017 at 18:12, Walter Tross  wrote:
>
>> Long story short: it's Abschlusssatz now (and Rollladen, etc.) One of the
>> criteria of the reform was to normalise hyphenation. This has gone so far
>> as to hyphenate Bä-cker, with the additional criterion of keeping the c
>> inside its group.
>>
>
> Wow. That looks incredibly strange to me. Thanks for informing me of this
> change, I would probably have thought it to be a typo if I saw that
> written. As for Bäcker, I presume the previous hyphenation was Bäck-er?
>
>
> no, Bäk-ker ...
>
> (at least that's how it would be written in Swedish). Is this still
> allowed? I.e. are the hyphenation points Bä-ck-er?
>
> Regards,
> Elias
>
>
>

Re: Aw: Re: LATIN CAPITAL LETTER SHARP S officially recognized

2017-11-09 Thread Philippe Verdy via Unicode 
2017-11-10 3:40 GMT+01:00 Elias Mårtenson via Unicode :

> On 9 November 2017 at 18:12, Walter Tross  wrote:
>
>> Long story short: it's Abschlusssatz now (and Rollladen, etc.) One of the
>> criteria of the reform was to normalise hyphenation. This has gone so far
>> as to hyphenate Bä-cker, with the additional criterion of keeping the c
>> inside its group.
>>
>
> Wow. That looks incredibly strange to me. Thanks for informing me of this
> change, I would probably have thought it to be a typo if I saw that
> written. As for Bäcker, I presume the previous hyphenation was Bäck-er? (at
>
least that's how it would be written in Swedish). Is this still allowed?
> I.e. are the hyphenation points Bä-ck-er?
>

The strange thing about the "triple s" is that it occurs when hyphenated as
  "sss"
but if hyphenation does not occur, the "triple s" becomes only two (as if
"ss" was contextually creating a ligature as a single "s". We have no
way to create custom hyphenation sequences such as :
  "ss-s"
which is what was really intended (with no hyphen the word is compacted
using only two "s").

Also I presume that to force the grouping of "ck" and avoid the soft hyphen
to break it, a SHY could be used just after it as
  "Bäcker",
but I think what was meant was really this:
  "Bäck-ker"
where the k is repeated AFTER the linebreak while keeping the "ck" group
before.

This is possible to do that with some markup language, but not in Unicode
plain text without requesting the addition of two new controls !

And things could be even worse: here we specify what happens when a
linebreak occurs and specify nothing if it does not (the whole inner
sequence is deleted). So if the "hyphenated triple s" is compacted to a
single sharp s when there's no libebreak, we would need something like this:
  "ßss-s"
And for that we would need at least 3 controls in plain text if we don't
want markup !!!

Re: Aw: Re: LATIN CAPITAL LETTER SHARP S officially recognized

2017-11-09 Thread Asmus Freytag via Unicode 

  
  
On 11/9/2017 6:40 PM, Elias Mårtenson
  via Unicode wrote:


  

  On 9 November 2017 at 18:12, Walter
Tross 
wrote:

  Long story short: it's Abschlusssatz now
(and Rollladen, etc.) One of the criteria of the reform
was to normalise hyphenation. This has gone so far as to
hyphenate Bä-cker, with the additional criterion of
keeping the c inside its group.



Wow. That looks incredibly strange to me. Thanks for
  informing me of this change, I would probably have thought
  it to be a typo if I saw that written. As for Bäcker, I
  presume the previous hyphenation was Bäck-er? 
  

  


no, Bäk-ker ...

  

  
(at least that's how it would be written in Swedish).
  Is this still allowed? I.e. are the hyphenation points
  Bä-ck-er?


Regards,
Elias

Re: Aw: Re: LATIN CAPITAL LETTER SHARP S officially recognized

2017-11-09 Thread Elias Mårtenson via Unicode 
On 9 November 2017 at 18:12, Walter Tross  wrote:

> Long story short: it's Abschlusssatz now (and Rollladen, etc.) One of the
> criteria of the reform was to normalise hyphenation. This has gone so far
> as to hyphenate Bä-cker, with the additional criterion of keeping the c
> inside its group.
>

Wow. That looks incredibly strange to me. Thanks for informing me of this
change, I would probably have thought it to be a typo if I saw that
written. As for Bäcker, I presume the previous hyphenation was Bäck-er? (at
least that's how it would be written in Swedish). Is this still allowed?
I.e. are the hyphenation points Bä-ck-er?

Regards,
Elias

Re: Aw: Re: LATIN CAPITAL LETTER SHARP S officially recognized

2017-11-09 Thread Walter Tross via Unicode 
Long story short: it's Abschlusssatz now (and Rollladen, etc.) One of the
criteria of the reform was to normalise hyphenation. This has gone so far
as to hyphenate Bä-cker, with the additional criterion of keeping the c
inside its group.

2017-11-09 9:47 GMT+01:00 Elias Mårtenson via Unicode :

> On 4 July 2017 at 00:49, Werner LEMBERG via Unicode 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> > No, the hyphenation oddity involving the addition of letters with
>> > hyphenation (or, to be more precise, to suppress letters in
>> > unhyphenated words) never affected the letter s.
>>
>> I'm not sure that this is really true.  As far as I know, `sss' in
>> Swiss German was handled similar to other triplet consonants before
>> the 1996 spelling reform.  In other words, you would have written
>>
>>   Abschlussatz (`closing sentence')
>>
>> instead of
>>
>>   Abschlusssatz  ,
>>
>> and which would have been hyphenated as
>>
>>   Abschluss-satz
>>
>
> This is still the case for Swedish though. I studied German before 1996,
> and I was under the impression that the rules in this case wad identical
> for Swedish and German. What do the rules say now?
>
> Regards,
> Elias
>

Re: Aw: Re: LATIN CAPITAL LETTER SHARP S officially recognized

2017-11-09 Thread Elias Mårtenson via Unicode 
On 4 July 2017 at 00:49, Werner LEMBERG via Unicode 
wrote:

>
> > No, the hyphenation oddity involving the addition of letters with
> > hyphenation (or, to be more precise, to suppress letters in
> > unhyphenated words) never affected the letter s.
>
> I'm not sure that this is really true.  As far as I know, `sss' in
> Swiss German was handled similar to other triplet consonants before
> the 1996 spelling reform.  In other words, you would have written
>
>   Abschlussatz (`closing sentence')
>
> instead of
>
>   Abschlusssatz  ,
>
> and which would have been hyphenated as
>
>   Abschluss-satz
>

This is still the case for Swedish though. I studied German before 1996,
and I was under the impression that the rules in this case wad identical
for Swedish and German. What do the rules say now?

Regards,
Elias

Re: LATIN CAPITAL LETTER SHARP S officially recognized

2017-07-04 Thread Gerrit Ansmann via Unicode 

On 04.07.2017 12:19, Otto Stolz via Unicode wrote:

I was referring to contemporary writing systems. Indeed, several east European 
languages (including, e. g. Latvian) were written in blackletter, with German 
sound-letter correspondence, before they developped their own writing systems.


Sure. It’s nothing that needs to be taken into account, if you ask me.
 

The only word to be printed in blackletter all-caps was – as far as I know – 
“der HERR”, or “der HErr”, meaning “the Lord” (in texts from the bible). In 
general, blackletter capitals are not designed for all-caps, so that would look 
disgustingly. Thence the form “HErr“ which is a bit more readable.


You can rarely find blackletter all-caps on title pages, e.g.:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Die_Lesung_derer_Romans,_als_ein_sehr_bedenkliches_Mittel_seine_Schreibart_zu_verbessern.djvu
(While the word in all-caps is “Herr”, it is here used in the meaning of 
“mister” and not “the Lord”.)
Most often this happens to place names.

Re: LATIN CAPITAL LETTER SHARP S officially recognized

2017-07-04 Thread Otto Stolz via Unicode 

Hello,

on 03.07.2017 19:01, Otto Stolz via Unicode wrote:

Since German ist the only language using “ß” (if I am not mistaken), […]


Am 2017-07-03 um 20:15 Uhr hat Gerrit Ansmann geschrieben:
Some old Sorbian (blackletter) orthographies also employed the ß. It was 
also used at the beginning of words where it was capitalised to Sſ at 
the beginning of sentences or similar.


I was referring to contemporary writing systems. Indeed, several
east European languages (including, e. g. Latvian) were written
in blackletter, with German sound-letter correspondence, before
they developped their own writing systems.

Thanks for pointing to this particular uppercasing rule.

I have not thought of Yiddish, though. This used to be written
with Hebrew letters (plus some particular ligatures). Usually,
it is transliterated into the Latin script according to the
YIVO rules of 1936. In Germany, there is an alternative tran-
scription in use, defined by Ronald Lötzsch in 1990. The latter
has the “ß” also in the beginning of words. However, there is
no upper-case equivalent, as Yiddish has no case distinction,
hence all Yiddish letters are transcribed to lower-case Latin,
even in the beginning of a sentence.

I am not aware of all-caps being 
used (which was very rare in blackletter in general).


The only word to be printed in blackletter all-caps was
– as far as I know – “der HERR”, or “der HErr”, meaning
“the Lord” (in texts from the bible). In general, blackletter
capitals are not designed for all-caps, so that would look
disgustingly. Thence the form “HErr“ which is a bit more
readable.

Best wishes,
  Otto

Re: LATIN CAPITAL LETTER SHARP S officially recognized

2017-07-03 Thread Gerrit Ansmann via Unicode 

On 03.07.2017 19:01, Otto Stolz via Unicode wrote:

Since German ist the only language using “ß” (if I am not mistaken), […]


Some old Sorbian (blackletter) orthographies also employed the ß. It was also 
used at the beginning of words where it was capitalised to Sſ at the beginning 
of sentences or similar. I am not aware of all-caps being used (which was very 
rare in blackletter in general).

Re: LATIN CAPITAL LETTER SHARP S officially recognized

2017-07-03 Thread Doug Ewell via Unicode 
a.lukyanov wrote:

> Is it possible to design fonts that will render ẞ as SS?
>
> So we could choose between ẞ and SS by just selecting the proper font,
> without changing the text itself.
>
> Or perhaps there will be a "font feature" to select this rendering
> within the same font.

I thought that was one of the main reasons we had Unicode: so we would
no longer have to rely on particular fonts, or magic font behavior, to
get character identities we expected and could interchange reliably.
 
--
Doug Ewell | Thornton, CO, US | ewellic.org

Re: LATIN CAPITAL LETTER SHARP S officially recognized

2017-07-03 Thread Otto Stolz via Unicode 

Hello,

am 2017-06-30 um 17:34 Uhr hat Michael Everson geschrieben:

It would be sensible to case-map ß to ẞ however.


Since German ist the only language using “ß” (if I am
not mistaken), Unicode should comply with the official
German orthographic rules with respect to this letter.

As I have reported to this list, § 25 E3 of the official
German spelling rules clearly give preference to “SS”
as the uppercase equivalent for “ß”. And before the latest
(2017) update of those rules, “ẞ” was not allowed, at all.

Best wishes,
   Otto

Re: Aw: Re: LATIN CAPITAL LETTER SHARP S officially recognized

2017-07-03 Thread Werner LEMBERG via Unicode 

> No, the hyphenation oddity involving the addition of letters with
> hyphenation (or, to be more precise, to suppress letters in
> unhyphenated words) never affected the letter s.

I'm not sure that this is really true.  As far as I know, `sss' in
Swiss German was handled similar to other triplet consonants before
the 1996 spelling reform.  In other words, you would have written

  Abschlussatz (`closing sentence')

instead of

  Abschlusssatz  ,

and which would have been hyphenated as

  Abschluss-satz


Werner

Re: LATIN CAPITAL LETTER SHARP S officially recognized

2017-07-03 Thread Otto Stolz via Unicode 

Hello,

am 2017-07-03 um 18:16 Uhr habe ich geschrieben:

This rule did hold for all consonants, there’s nothing
particular about double-s.


On 2017-07-03 at 18:05 Jörg Knappen had written:

the hyphenation oddity … never affected the letter s.


Jörg is right. I forgot the additional rule that you
had to spell “ß” instead of “ss” at the end of every
constituent of a compound word, so the rule I reported
would never be applied to “ss”. Also the “ss” → “ß”
rule has been dropped by the spelling reform of 1996.

Btw., the dropping of said ß rule has led to much
controversy during the ’90s. Most people were not
aware that that very rule had been introduced by the
pen-ultimate spelling reform, in 1901.

Best wishes,
  Otto

Aw: Re: LATIN CAPITAL LETTER SHARP S officially recognized

2017-07-03 Thread Jörg Knappen 

No, the hyphenation oddity involving the addition of letters with hyphenation

(or, to be more precise, to suppress letters in unhyphenated words) never affected the letter s.

It affected other letters (I know examples for f, l, m, n, p, r, and t) when followed by a vowel, like in

Schiffahrt/Schiff-fahrt. It was always Sauerstoffflasche with three f's.

 

In the old (1910) spelling of German, ss at the word boundary obligatory became ß. When the

ß was replaced by ss (because of all caps or unavailability of the letter), all three s's were retained.


 

In the current orthography, the hyphenation oddity is removed completely.

 

--Jörg Knappen

 


Gesendet: Montag, 03. Juli 2017 um 09:43 Uhr
Von: "Alastair Houghton" <alast...@alastairs-place.net>
An: "Jörg Knappen" <jknap...@web.de>
Cc: a.lukya...@yspu.org, unicode@unicode.org
Betreff: Re: LATIN CAPITAL LETTER SHARP S officially recognized

On 2 Jul 2017, at 16:59, Jörg Knappen via Unicode <unicode@unicode.org> wrote:
>
> > Is it possible to design fonts that will render ẞ as SS?
>
> In fact, that has happened long before the capital letter sharp s was added to Unicode: The T1 encoding (aka Cork encoding) of LaTeX
> does this since 1990. The reason for this was correct hyphenation for German words rendered in all caps.

Wasn’t there also some oddity relating to hyphenation and “ss”/“SS” in general? I seem to recall that it used to be the case that you ended up with more “s”s than you started with when hyphenating a word containing “ss”…

Kind regards,

Alastair.

--
http://alastairs-place.net
 

Re: LATIN CAPITAL LETTER SHARP S officially recognized

2017-07-03 Thread Alastair Houghton via Unicode 
On 2 Jul 2017, at 16:59, Jörg Knappen via Unicode  wrote:
> 
> > Is it possible to design fonts that will render ẞ as SS?
>  
> In fact, that has happened long before the capital letter sharp s was added 
> to Unicode: The T1 encoding (aka Cork encoding) of LaTeX
> does this since 1990. The reason for this was correct hyphenation for German 
> words rendered in all caps.

Wasn’t there also some oddity relating to hyphenation and “ss”/“SS” in general? 
 I seem to recall that it used to be the case that you ended up with more “s”s 
than you started with when hyphenating a word containing “ss”…

Kind regards,

Alastair.

--
http://alastairs-place.net

Re: LATIN CAPITAL LETTER SHARP S officially recognized

2017-07-02 Thread Michael Everson via Unicode 
Now that it has been added, however, the situation is different. 

> On 2 Jul 2017, at 16:59, Jörg Knappen via Unicode  wrote:
> 
> > Is it possible to design fonts that will render ẞ as SS?
>  
> In fact, that has happened long before the capital letter sharp s was added 
> to Unicode: The T1 encoding (aka Cork encoding) of LaTeX
> does this since 1990. The reason for this was correct hyphenation for German 
> words rendered in all caps.
>  
> --Jörg Knappen

Aw: Re: LATIN CAPITAL LETTER SHARP S officially recognized

2017-07-02 Thread Jörg Knappen 

> Is it possible to design fonts that will render ẞ as SS?

 


In fact, that has happened long before the capital letter sharp s was added to Unicode: The T1 encoding (aka Cork encoding) of LaTeX

does this since 1990. The reason for this was correct hyphenation for German words rendered in all caps.

 

--Jörg Knappen

 


Gesendet: Samstag, 01. Juli 2017 um 08:51 Uhr
Von: "a.lukyanov via Unicode" <unicode@unicode.org>
An: unicode@unicode.org
Betreff: Re: LATIN CAPITAL LETTER SHARP S officially recognized

Is it possible to design fonts that will render ẞ as SS?

So we could choose between ẞ and SS by just selecting the proper font,
without changing the text itself.

Or perhaps there will be a "font feature" to select this rendering
within the same font.
 

Re: LATIN CAPITAL LETTER SHARP S officially recognized

2017-07-02 Thread Richard Wordingham via Unicode 
On Sat, 01 Jul 2017 09:51:00 +0300
"a.lukyanov via Unicode"  wrote:

> Is it possible to design fonts that will render ẞ as SS?
> 
> So we could choose between ẞ and SS by just selecting the proper
> font, without changing the text itself.
> 
> Or perhaps there will be a "font feature" to select this rendering 
> within the same font.

I believe this sort of feature is being deprecated.  (The deprecated
features include altv, crcy, dflt, jajp, j0p03, kokr, vivn, zhcn and
zntw). It belongs more in the barely tolerated realm of transliteration
fonts. There are, however, the features cv01 to cv99 that may be used
on a font-by-font basis - a sort of Private Use Area for features.

Richard.

Re: LATIN CAPITAL LETTER SHARP S officially recognized

2017-07-01 Thread Michael Everson via Unicode 
On 1 Jul 2017, at 10:34, Werner LEMBERG via Unicode  wrote:

> It's even more complicated.  Take for example the word `Straße'
> (street), which gets capitalized as `STRASSE’.

Or as STRAẞE. 

> In Germany and Austria this word gets hyphenated as `STRA-SSE' (since 
> hyphenation is not
> influenced by the ß→SS substitution).  However, in Switzerland it gets
> hyphenated as `STRAS-SE', since Swiss German doesn't use ß; instead,
> `ss' gets treated as a normal double consonant.

It would be hyphenated STRA-ẞE in any case.

Michael Everson

Re: LATIN CAPITAL LETTER SHARP S officially recognized

2017-07-01 Thread Werner LEMBERG via Unicode 

> >  Is it possible to design fonts that will render ẞ as SS?
> >  
> >  So we could choose between ẞ and SS by just selecting the proper
> >  font, without changing the text itself.
>
> I think, and others agree, that this is a bad thing.  Those who want
> SS can simply use 'S' and 'S', ẞ was encoded for those who wanted to
> use a capital form of ß.  They would be annoyed if they found that
> the typeface they wanted subverted their intentions.

It's even more complicated.  Take for example the word `Straße'
(street), which gets capitalized as `STRASSE'.  In Germany and Austria
this word gets hyphenated as `STRA-SSE' (since hyphenation is not
influenced by the ß→SS substitution).  However, in Switzerland it gets
hyphenated as `STRAS-SE', since Swiss German doesn't use ß; instead,
`ss' gets treated as a normal double consonant.


Werner

Re: LATIN CAPITAL LETTER SHARP S officially recognized

2017-07-01 Thread David Faulks via Unicode 
I think, and others agree, that this is a bad thing. Those who want SS can 
simply use 'S' and 'S', ẞ was encoded for those who wanted to use a capital 
form of ß. They would be annoyed if they found that the typeface they wanted 
subverted their intentions.

On Sat, 7/1/17, a.lukyanov via Unicode <unicode@unicode.org> wrote:

 Subject: Re: LATIN CAPITAL LETTER SHARP S officially recognized
 To: unicode@unicode.org
 Received: Saturday, July 1, 2017, 2:51 AM
 
 Is it possible to design fonts that will
 render ẞ as SS?
 
 So we could choose between ẞ and SS
 by just selecting the proper font, 
 without changing the text itself.
 
 Or perhaps there will be a "font
 feature" to select this rendering 
 within the same font.

Re: LATIN CAPITAL LETTER SHARP S officially recognized

2017-07-01 Thread a.lukyanov via Unicode 

Is it possible to design fonts that will render ẞ as SS?

So we could choose between ẞ and SS by just selecting the proper font, 
without changing the text itself.


Or perhaps there will be a "font feature" to select this rendering 
within the same font.

Re: LATIN CAPITAL LETTER SHARP S officially recognized

2017-06-30 Thread Christoph Päper via Unicode 
Letters in some scripts are a class of two or more characters. Usually, all 
letters have the same number of such case variants. Rarely, characters may be 
constituents of different letters within the same script. A closed set of 
letters, usually with a canonical sort order, makes an alphabet. Every writing 
system employs exactly one alphabet for each script it supports. Most writing 
systems only support a single script. Writing systems may have multiple 
systematically related orthographies, i.e. rules for combining letters into 
graphemes and these into words.

Any Unicode case pair is intended to be equivalent to a letter, but in some 
cases fails to be this. It fails in the case of Turkish , because every 
character can only be part of a single case pair. It fails in the case of 
German <ß>, because a categorical error (that cannot be corrected for 
compatibility and stability reasons) had been made: a grapheme rule was 
recorded as a letter rule.

Re: LATIN CAPITAL LETTER SHARP S officially recognized

2017-06-30 Thread Philippe Verdy via Unicode 
True but this only applies to "simple case mappings" (those in the main
datatase), not to extended mappings (which are locale dependant, such as
mappings for dotted and undotted i in Turkish).

So the extended mappings can perfectly be changed for German: they are not
part of the stability policy and designed to be extensible. And this is
where you find the existing mapping from ß to SS (lossy case conversion),
that will change to ẞ (non lossy case conversion).



2017-06-30 18:48 GMT+02:00 Mathias Bynens via Unicode :

> On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 5:34 PM, Michael Everson via Unicode
>  wrote:
> >
> > It would be sensible to case-map ß to ẞ however.
>
> I’m hoping this can happen — converting ß to SS is lossy, so mapping
> to ẞ would be far superior.
>
> However, 
> says:
>
> “If two characters form a case pair in a version of Unicode, they will
> remain a case pair in each subsequent version of Unicode.
>
> If two characters do not form a case pair in a version of Unicode,
> they will never become a case pair in any subsequent version of
> Unicode.”
>
> 
>
>

Re: LATIN CAPITAL LETTER SHARP S officially recognized

2017-06-30 Thread Mathias Bynens via Unicode 
On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 5:34 PM, Michael Everson via Unicode
 wrote:
>
> It would be sensible to case-map ß to ẞ however.

I’m hoping this can happen — converting ß to SS is lossy, so mapping
to ẞ would be far superior.

However,  says:

“If two characters form a case pair in a version of Unicode, they will
remain a case pair in each subsequent version of Unicode.

If two characters do not form a case pair in a version of Unicode,
they will never become a case pair in any subsequent version of
Unicode.”



Re: LATIN CAPITAL LETTER SHARP S officially recognized

2017-06-30 Thread Michael Everson via Unicode 
It would be sensible to case-map ß to ẞ however.

> On 30 Jun 2017, at 16:29, Otto Stolz via Unicode  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> der Rat für deutsche Rechtschreibung which is responsible for the further 
> development of the official German orthography has finally recognized LATIN 
> CAPITAL LETTER SHARP S as a possible upper-case equvalent for the LATIN SMALL 
> LETTER SHARP S.
> 
> The report announcing the change is dated 2016-12-08, but the official rules 
> have been updated only yesterday, so the change is currently in the news (not 
> very prominently, though).
> 
> The pertinent section from the official 2107 rules reads thusly:
>> § 25 E3
>> Bei Schreibung mit Großbuchstaben schreibt man SS. Daneben ist auch die 
>> Verwendung des Großbuchstabens ẞ möglich.  Beispiel: Straße – STRASSE 
>> –STRAẞE.
> 
> Which translates to:
>> When writing all caps, you spell SS. Alternatively, it is possible to use 
>> the upper-case ẞ. Example: Straße – STRASSE –STRAẞE.
> 
> So, SS remains the primary upper-case equivalent of ß. Yesterday’s note to 
> the press says that the capital ẞ is meant mainly for passports and similar 
> official documents, wich have to reproduce personal names faithfully in their 
> respective spelling variants. E. g., Passports used to distinguish proper 
> names such as GROẞMANN and GROSSMAN; up to now, they usually have spelled 
> GROßMANN, with a small ß between the capitals, which renders ugly, in most 
> fonts.
> 
> Best wishes,
>   Otto