Personal suggestion for fixing the Linux situation

2010-07-16 Thread Peter Alcibiades
Here is how I would go about tracking down these things. Just to recap, the things we are seeking to track down are these four: -- not all and only installed fonts are visible and useable -- revPrintField does not work properly -- virtual desktops don't work -- editor slows down, freezes and

Re: mouseDown message sent but not triggering the handler in a behavior

2010-07-16 Thread Andre.Bisseret
Le 15 juil. 10 à 22:09, Mark Wieder a écrit : Andre- Thursday, July 15, 2010, 12:52:41 PM, you wrote: In these handlers, I distinguish the differents buttons using if the short name of the target is such button then or case the short name of the target is such button (followed by the

Re: RunRev Script Editor and Linux

2010-07-16 Thread Peter Alcibiades
Yes, wise post. Sad but wise. We all get to the same place on this in the end, the trick is to try to remain both forceful and good humored while getting there! -- View this message in context:

Re: File lists

2010-07-16 Thread Medard
Kay C Lan lan.kc.macm...@gmail.com wrote: tell application Finder files of folder Disc:folderA:folder1 end tell I am following this interesting thread :-) Though, I got an execution error (in Applescript, I presume) by running this handler: on mouseUp answer folder List files in this

Re: RunRev Script Editor and Linux

2010-07-16 Thread Peter Alcibiades
There is no Linux per se. Linux is like blocks, modules that people snap together at will. Without a known set of variables, Rev is very likely to fail in some areas depending on which software the current user has installed. Jacque, I don't think this is either true, or a useful explanation of

Is it Rev, is it Valentina, is it MacOS? Need help!

2010-07-16 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hello, tracking down a mysterious error since days and days I am stuck now. It is such a strange error that probably nobody has ever had this particular problem, but perhaps somebody can find any relation to any other experience and bring me up on the road again. My standard development

Re: Personal suggestion for fixing the Linux situation

2010-07-16 Thread Richmond
On 07/16/2010 10:25 AM, Peter Alcibiades wrote: Here is how I would go about tracking down these things. Just to recap, the things we are seeking to track down are these four: -- not all and only installed fonts are visible and useable -- revPrintField does not work properly -- virtual

[ANN] The Scripter's Scrapbook on RevSelect

2010-07-16 Thread FlexibleLearning
I am delighted to announce that the Scripter's Scrapbook is (at long last) now available on RevSelect at www.runrev.com/products/related-software/scripters-scrapbook/. Now in its 5th edition the Scripter's Scrapbook is more than a utility; it is your knowledge bank and your personal reference

Re: RunRev Script Editor and Linux

2010-07-16 Thread Luis
Hiya, I totally agree. Looking at the huge mass of applications available for Linux (professional and hobby) it doesn't tally that it's a 'Linux' issue: Simple as that. Comparing notes with developers on the ease of programming disparate Operating Systems, Linux comes out on top as the

Re: File lists

2010-07-16 Thread Jim Ault
Your handler has a few errors. The path containing slashes is not what AppleScript expects It is a good practice to use 'return varThatWasSet' in order to send some text back to Rev, and then be prepared to do some parsing for extra quotes, etc. I have not worked with AppleScript in a few

Re: Personal suggestion for fixing the Linux situation

2010-07-16 Thread Andre Garzia
show stopper: Rev on linux does not respect work with current ubuntu theme, it all displays wrong... ARGH can't create a single button with the correct appearance. On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 4:25 AM, Peter Alcibiades palcibiades-fi...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Here is how I would go about tracking down

Re: [ANN] Data Grid Helper - Watch The Slug building templates for datagrid in minutes

2010-07-16 Thread zryip theSlug
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 1:42 AM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: I can't view the video's I think they are divx. Oh well. Bob Yes. If you can't read divx videos or download a divx codec, I'll be back with another format, ASAP. Thanks Bob Regards, -- -Zryip TheSlug- wish you the best! 8)

Re: [ANN] The Scripter's Scrapbook on RevSelect

2010-07-16 Thread Richard Gaskin
Hugh Senior wrote: I am delighted to announce that the Scripter's Scrapbook is (at long last) now available on RevSelect at www.runrev.com/products/related-software/scripters-scrapbook/. Dude, it's about damn time. ;) Congrats - SS is a fine package, glad to see it get the additional

Re: Personal suggestion for fixing the Linux situation

2010-07-16 Thread Richmond
On 07/16/2010 03:53 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: show stopper: Rev on linux does not respect work with current ubuntu theme, it all displays wrong... ARGH can't create a single button with the correct appearance. I don't think this should be a major concern; if one considers that on my main

Re: Personal suggestion for fixing the Linux situation

2010-07-16 Thread Richard Gaskin
Andre Garzia wrote: show stopper: Rev on linux does not respect work with current ubuntu theme, it all displays wrong... ARGH can't create a single button with the correct appearance. I just made a quick stack with standard buttons, radio buttons, checkboxes, and a scrolling field to check

Re: [ANN] The Scripter's Scrapbook on RevSelect

2010-07-16 Thread Andre Garzia
Hugh, I see that the stack does not support linux platform, is there any reason or a way I could help you to get it running under linux? Cheers andre On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 7:57 AM, FlexibleLearning ad...@flexiblelearning.com wrote: I am delighted to announce that the Scripter's Scrapbook

Re: Personal suggestion for fixing the Linux situation

2010-07-16 Thread Richard Gaskin
Richmond wrote: The other one that gets a bit much is that the Dictionary is glacially slow. I've seen this as well, but inconsistently. It may be the way they're parsing XML, or perhaps something in the timers, either in the way they use them in scripts or in the engine. Don't know quite

Re: RunRev Script Editor and Linux

2010-07-16 Thread Richard Gaskin
Peter Alcibiades wrote: The way to look at this thing is to figure out what Rev is doing differently from other apps. Yes! Thank you for writing that. It seems self-evident, but is so often forgotten: the way to solve any problem is to identify the differences between the working and

Re: File lists

2010-07-16 Thread Medard
Jim Ault jimaultw...@yahoo.com wrote: Your handler has a few errors. The path containing slashes is not what AppleScript expects It is a good practice to use 'return varThatWasSet' in order to send some text back to Rev, and then be prepared to do some parsing for extra quotes, etc.

Re: Personal suggestion for fixing the Linux situation

2010-07-16 Thread Richard Gaskin
Damn fine post, Peter. I've quoted it in its entirety because anyone here who missed it and uses Linux would be missing out if they didn't read it. Excellent stuff - very exciting to see this level of energy from so many of us going into this, kinda like how Linux itself is made. I like

Re: RunRev Script Editor and Linux

2010-07-16 Thread Andre Garzia
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: Here's the big question: Who among us has the time to turn the Rev zip archive for Linux into a Debian package? Andre? :) Richard, If I have the time, I will try during the weekend to creat .debs and

Re: RunRev Script Editor and Linux

2010-07-16 Thread Richard Gaskin
Andre Garzia heroically wrote: On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Richard Gaskin ambassador at fourthworld.com wrote: Here's the big question: Who among us has the time to turn the Rev zip archive for Linux into a Debian package? Andre? :) Richard, If I have the time, I will try during

Re: Personal suggestion for fixing the Linux situation

2010-07-16 Thread Andre Garzia
I just made a quick stack with standard buttons, radio buttons, checkboxes, and a scrolling field to check this out. I opened Ubuntu's Appearance Preferences window and tried each of the themes there - all worked for all controls, including the field scrollbar. The only thing that didn't

Re: Personal suggestion for fixing the Linux situation

2010-07-16 Thread Richard Gaskin
Andre Garzia wrote: Despites my poor attempt at linux screenshots, take a look at: http://andregarzia.com/Screenshot.png This is Ubuntu 10.04 with default theme. Check the following issues: * buttons are simply wrong both the default button and the push button. * progress scrollbar has a tiny

Re: File lists

2010-07-16 Thread Medard
Medard liste.r...@medard.on-rev.com wrote: I did not write some AS for a time... and I forgot to replace the slashes with something AS understands ;-) I thinks it's better now: on mouseUp answer folder List files in folder: if it is empty then exit mouseup replace slash with colon

Re: Personal suggestion for fixing the Linux situation

2010-07-16 Thread Andre Garzia
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: Andre Garzia wrote: Despites my poor attempt at linux screenshots, take a look at: http://andregarzia.com/Screenshot.png This is Ubuntu 10.04 with default theme. Check the following issues: * buttons are

Re: File lists

2010-07-16 Thread Richard Gaskin
Medard wrote: I thinks it's better now: on mouseUp answer folder List files in folder: if it is empty then exit mouseup replace slash with colon in it -- mandatory! put iMacIntel before it -- the name of the Mac, besides the old G5 ;-) put it into tfolder put tell Application

Re: Personal suggestion for fixing the Linux situation

2010-07-16 Thread Richard Gaskin
Andre wrote: The standard button has a darker square around it that is not a part of the button itself. As if it was being drawn as opaque and the whole square occupied by the button is drawn in a darker or different tone, I know the button is supposed to be darker but not the surrounding area,

Re: Personal suggestion for fixing the Linux situation

2010-07-16 Thread Andre Garzia
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: Good find - thanks. Logged: http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=8857 Thanks for the report, I attached the image, commented and voted for! :-D Let us see if they throw us some linux love...

Re: File lists

2010-07-16 Thread Jim Ault
On Jul 16, 2010, at 7:49 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: I think I missed something earlier in this thread - why not use RevTalk's files function?: function FileList pFolder put the directory into tSaveDir set the directory to pFolder get the files set the directory to tSaveDir return

Re: File lists

2010-07-16 Thread Jim Ault
Good work. There is a little trick you might have to use for mounted volumes, vs the main drive. Convert the Rev path using one of these functions: revMacFromUnixPath(/usr/bin/stuff) -- returns usr:bin:stuff revUnixFromMacPath(Disk:Folder:) -- returns /Disk/Folder/ The list archives has a

Re: File lists

2010-07-16 Thread Medard
Jim Ault jimaultw...@yahoo.com wrote: revMacFromUnixPath(/usr/bin/stuff) -- returns usr:bin:stuff OK, that's better :-) and how about adding the volume name? Besides that, if one doesn't like AS (as I do, cough, cough) maybe there is a solution with the command line (ls -*)...

Re: File lists

2010-07-16 Thread Medard
Jim Ault jimaultw...@yahoo.com wrote: Jacque was trying to find a way to detect the different types of Finder items, such as packages and folders and bundles. and I tried as an exercice to do the easiest, i.e. the real files ;-) I thought also to resort to the command line (ls...) but, as

Re: Personal suggestion for fixing the Linux situation

2010-07-16 Thread Peter Alcibiades
If anyone wants to follow along with Slackware, this is where to get the isos. Only the first three CDs should be needed. http://spheniscus.uio.no/pub/linux/slackware/slackware-13.1-iso/ Be aware though, this is not exactly Linux as she is known today, this is not the land of graphical

Re: Personal suggestion for fixing the Linux situation

2010-07-16 Thread Richmond
On 07/16/2010 07:27 PM, Peter Alcibiades wrote: If anyone wants to follow along with Slackware, this is where to get the isos. Only the first three CDs should be needed. http://spheniscus.uio.no/pub/linux/slackware/slackware-13.1-iso/ Be aware though, this is not exactly Linux as she is known

Re: File lists

2010-07-16 Thread J. Landman Gay
Medard wrote: Jim Ault jimaultw...@yahoo.com wrote: revMacFromUnixPath(/usr/bin/stuff) -- returns usr:bin:stuff OK, that's better :-) and how about adding the volume name? I used revMacFromUnixPath in my final handler. It not only manages the slash/colon substitutions but it also knows

Re: Personal suggestion for fixing the Linux situation

2010-07-16 Thread David C.
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:27 AM, Peter Alcibiades palcibiades-fi...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: If anyone wants to follow along with Slackware, this is where to get the isos.  Only the first three CDs should be needed. http://spheniscus.uio.no/pub/linux/slackware/slackware-13.1-iso/ Be aware

Re: [ANN] Data Grid Helper - Watch The Slug building templates for datagrid in minutes

2010-07-16 Thread stephen barncard
H264 please... On 16 July 2010 07:54, zryip theSlug zryip.thes...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 1:42 AM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: I can't view the video's I think they are divx. Oh well. Bob Yes. If you can't read divx videos or download a divx codec, I'll be back

Video on Linux?

2010-07-16 Thread Richard Gaskin
I ran a couple tests recently trying to get a player object to run video on Ubuntu. No go, even with an ogg file which plays fine in mPlayer. What am I missing? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers:

Re: Video on Linux?

2010-07-16 Thread Andre Garzia
never tried video on linux... never dared try launching rev from console and see if it spits out some errors... On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.comwrote: I ran a couple tests recently trying to get a player object to run video on Ubuntu. No go, even

Re: Video on Linux?

2010-07-16 Thread Richmond
On 07/16/2010 09:11 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: I ran a couple tests recently trying to get a player object to run video on Ubuntu. No go, even with an ogg file which plays fine in mPlayer. What am I missing? I do know that RunRev 2 for Linux, supposedly, levered either xanim or QT for

Re: Video on Linux?

2010-07-16 Thread Richmond
I thought I would be clever and try this: on mouseUp set the videoClipPlayer to /usr/bin/mplayer play videoClip OINK.mov end mouseUp still no joy. Mind you: the RunRev 4.0 online documentation states that on Unix systems (funny that when RunRev don't even produce a version for UNIX any

Re: Personal suggestion for fixing the Linux situation

2010-07-16 Thread Peter Alcibiades
The point is diagnostic. If we knew the answer, there would be no need to do this. We need to find the lowest level at which the problems occur. Or don't occur. At the moment, we have no idea if its Linux, Gnome, Ubuntu. We have no idea if its the basic packages as they come from the

Re: [ANN] Data Grid Helper - Watch The Slug building templates for datagrid in minutes

2010-07-16 Thread zryip theSlug
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 8:00 PM, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote: H264 please... Bob and Stephen, I updated the three DGH's videos by encoding them in H264. Let me know if all is ok for you now. The first video is about DG properties The second presents the first steps

Re: Personal suggestion for fixing the Linux situation

2010-07-16 Thread Peter Alcibiades
Let me explain again. You take the most minimalist possible Linux. As little gui tools as possible. You take the distro that has the least possible tweaking of any applications. Then you try to find out: do virtual desktops work here? Are all fonts visible here? Does the editor crash here?

Re: [ANN] Data Grid Helper - Watch The Slug building templates for datagrid in minutes

2010-07-16 Thread jcwall
Is there any sound on the video? - James C. Wall, PhD Professor Department of Physical Therapy University of South Alabama 307 N University Blvd, Room 2011 Mobile AL 36688 Phone: (251) 445 9330 Fax: (251) 445 9238 - Original Message - From: zryip

RunRev, Linux, Multiple desktops

2010-07-16 Thread Richmond
I just opened RunRev 2.2 (the FREE Novell version) as I use it on a regular basis as RunRev 4.0 standalones don't seem to work on my Ubuntu 5.04 machines in the school. Guess what . . . I have 4 desktops on my Ubuntu 10.04 box; I made 3 main stacks and pushed each onto a separate window; the

Re: [ANN] Data Grid Helper - Watch The Slug building templates for datagrid in minutes

2010-07-16 Thread zryip theSlug
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 9:50 PM, jcw...@jaguar1.usouthal.edu wrote: Is there any sound on the video? Hum good remark. No. - Original Message - From: zryip theSlug zryip.thes...@gmail.com Date: Friday, July 16, 2010 2:25 pm Subject: Re: [ANN] Data Grid Helper - Watch The Slug

Re: Personal suggestion for fixing the Linux situation

2010-07-16 Thread David C.
Let me explain again.  You take the most minimalist possible Linux.  As little gui tools as possible.  You take the distro that has the least possible tweaking of any applications.  Then you try to find out:  do virtual desktops work here?  Are all fonts visible here?  Does the editor crash

Re: [ANN] Data Grid Helper - Watch The Slug building templates for datagrid in minutes

2010-07-16 Thread zryip theSlug
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 9:50 PM,  jcw...@jaguar1.usouthal.edu wrote: Is there any sound on the video? I will study that for others video. If you need clarification about things you have seen, be free to ask. -- -Zryip TheSlug- wish you the best! 8) http://www.aslugontheroad.co.cc

Re: [ANN] Data Grid Helper - Watch The Slug building templates for datagrid in minutes

2010-07-16 Thread jcwall
Thanks. I think a narration of what you are doing on the video would be helpful. Jim - James C. Wall, PhD Professor Department of Physical Therapy University of South Alabama 307 N University Blvd, Room 2011 Mobile AL 36688 Phone: (251) 445 9330 Fax:

Re: [ANN] Data Grid Helper - Watch The Slug building templates for datagrid in minutes

2010-07-16 Thread Bob Sneidar
I saw the video. You did all this in outer space?? You are THE MAN!! Bob On Jul 16, 2010, at 12:24 PM, zryip theSlug wrote: On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 8:00 PM, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote: H264 please... Bob and Stephen, I updated the three DGH's videos by

ANN: Installer Maker plug-in for RunRev updated

2010-07-16 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hello, Economy-x-Talk has just released Installer Maker 1.2, a plug-in for Runtime Revolution to wrap your standalones in an installer. This version creates installers that no longer require Rosetta for Mac OS X and includes several minor additional improvements. You can find more

Re: RunRev Script Editor and Linux

2010-07-16 Thread Kay C Lan
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.comwrote: We need to stop making excuses! Exactly. Let's instead roll up our sleeves and get this thing rolling. Unfortunately in my reading of this thread, in the sad passing of Bill Marriott, Rev has lost one