You could also get a Mac, and save a ton of money on that anti-virus crap!
(never bought virus protection, never will.)
Doesn't it seem silly that you have to buy all those add-ons just to
run your machine? And if it's required for operation, isn't that the
job and duty of the operating system?
On Oct 26, 2005, at 10:01 AM, Stephen Barncard wrote:
Doesn't it seem silly that you have to buy all those add-ons just to
run your machine?
I don't. I have 10 Macs.
But, if you are using Windows, you need all that stuff. ;-)
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Doesn't it seem silly that you have to buy all those add-ons just to
run your machine?
I don't. I have 10 Macs.
But, if you are using Windows, you need all that stuff. ;-)
not necessarily : I have 3 Macs and 1 PC, and on the PC I visit
only the websites I develop...
JB
Troy Rollins wrote:
On Oct 26, 2005, at 10:01 AM, Stephen Barncard wrote:
Doesn't it seem silly that you have to buy all those add-ons just to
run your machine?
I don't. I have 10 Macs.
But, if you are using Windows, you need all that stuff. ;-)
And since half of whatever's installed
On Oct 26, 2005, at 11:09 AM, jbv wrote:
not necessarily : I have 3 Macs and 1 PC, and on the PC I visit
only the websites I develop...
My test PC's use pretty much the same security system. The downside
is that to get there, you travel through an untold amount of routers
and other
Recently, Troy Rollins wrote:
Without the right protection tools in place, a PC can become infected
simply by having unrestricted access to the internet.
What's sadly amusing is that TechTV labs (G4TechTV) did a non-scientific
test of setting up three new, out of the box unprotected systems
Very interesting topic.
I've been using Windows since '95. I've got an always on internet
connection on 2 machines connected to the internet for at least the last
10 years. Granted, I do use the free version of AVG virus protection,
and I am behind a firewall/router, which just makes good
Recently, Chipp Walters wrote:
What's sadly amusing is that TechTV labs (G4TechTV) did a non-scientific
test of setting up three new, out of the box unprotected systems in their
offices and connecting them to the Internet: one running Linux, one Mac, and
one Windows. The Windows system was
Troy Rollins wrote:
On Oct 26, 2005, at 10:01 AM, Stephen Barncard wrote:
Doesn't it seem silly that you have to buy all those add-ons just
to run your machine?
I don't. I have 10 Macs.
But, if you are using Windows, you need all that stuff. ;-)
And since half of whatever's installed
Timothy Miller wrote:
Good anti-malware software, frequently updated, can clean up an
infected machine, if it's not grossly infected. But ya gotta pay for it.
Why do you say that ?
I pay my annual subscription to Norton Internet Utilities, just so I
can use my XP machine on the internet
On Oct 26, 2005, at 3:06 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote:
AVG updates far more quickly and reliably, Norton seemed to have some
problems on anything less than perfect Internet connections.
I'm using AVG too, and it seems quite good. By default, it seems to
run an awful lot though – pretty much
Erik Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i did forward a phishy message to PayPal
and got an immediate response.
me, too
me, too!
/me, too
and got (almost) immediately 2 PayPal scams!
seems that those ù$^)* are very active...
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Erik Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i did forward a phishy message to PayPal
and got an immediate response.
me, too
me, too!
/me, too
and got (almost) immediately 2 PayPal scams!
seems that those ù$^)* are very active...
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--- Timothy Miller
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is it possible a trojan on your computer is
covertly sending copies of your email to a bad
guy? As I understand it, the average Windows
machine connected to the internet is infected
with a couple of dozen malware items.
Otherwise, it's
On Oct 25, 2005, at 11:19 PM, Erik Hansen wrote:
i did reinstall Windows.
should that solve my problems?
It can always help. Of course, it's STILL Windows. ;-)
Firewall, AntiVirus, Anti-Spyware, Adaware, RootKit detection, and very
judicious downloading are all highly recommended.
Wow,
PayPal and eBay have a strong commercial incentive to discourage
phishing. I'd guess they are working hard on the problem, as we speak.
If you happen to notice a phishing message in mailbox shortly after
it arrives, forward it immediately (including all headers) to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL
--- Timothy Miller
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you happen to notice a phishing message in
mailbox shortly after
it arrives, forward it immediately (including
all headers) to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] If users
keep doing this, some of
these creeps will eventually get caught,
i am getting bogus PayPal email
asking for card info etc.
so nfar just deleting is working
but these guys are always pushing
the envelope.
Erik Hansen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.erikhansen.org
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Subject: Re: Phishy Paypal
i am getting bogus PayPal email
asking for card info etc.
so nfar just deleting is working
but these guys are always pushing
the envelope.
Erik Hansen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.erikhansen.org
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Erik Hansen
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 9:58 AM
To: How to use Revolution
Subject: Re: Phishy Paypal
i am getting bogus PayPal email
asking for card info etc.
so nfar just deleting is working
but these guys
clearly not PayPal sending out
all that PayPal phishing spam.
Charles Hartman
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Erik Hansen
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 9:58 AM
To: How to use Revolution
Subject: Re: Phishy Paypal
i am getting
The Other T.M. wrote:
Obviously it is not PayPal doing it BUT someone IS gaining access to
either PayPal and/or eBay and their mailing lists 'when someone does
a transaction'. This started for me right after an eBay sale and
PayPal transaction.
I sent the email on to both and got a response very
Thomas-
Saturday, October 22, 2005, 5:28:50 AM, you wrote:
Obviously it is not PayPal doing it BUT someone IS gaining access to
either PayPal and/or eBay and their mailing lists 'when someone does
a transaction'. This started for me right after an eBay sale and
PayPal transaction.
Well,
Obviously it is not PayPal doing it BUT someone IS gaining access to
either PayPal and/or eBay and their mailing lists 'when someone does
a transaction'. This started for me right after an eBay sale and
PayPal transaction.
I sent the email on to both and got a response very quickly. The
true.
if you check carefully that kind of phishy emails, you'll notice that
very often it sends data back to a server located in Romania...
JB
The phishers do not necessarily have PayPal mailing lists. I have
neither a PayPal nor eBay account, and I get plenty of phishing spams
for both
On Oct 22, 2005, at 1:49 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
Sounds reasonable. Why would PayPal phish its own customers?
Weird idea
-- or an ultimate perfection of capitalism?
Charles Hartman
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I just used my Paypal for a transaction yesterday after a long period
of not using it. Today I have been Phished twice by phony Paypal
emails and sites!
Dennis
On Oct 22, 2005, at 1:22 PM, Bruce A. Pokras wrote:
Obviously it is not PayPal doing it BUT someone IS gaining access
to either
Dennis Brown wrote:
I just used my Paypal for a transaction yesterday after a long period
of not using it. Today I have been Phished twice by phony Paypal
emails and sites!
There may or may not be a cause-and-effect relationship there. After
all, phishing is an attempt to get account
--- Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
PayPal phishing their own customers
for info just doesn't make sense.
those guys are always pushing the envelope
refered to the bad guys in Romania or wherever.
the range of responses was VERY informative.
btw, spellcheck shows Gascony and
But one will never know whether it was coincidence or not unless one
uses a special email address for Paypal transactions. I have never
gotten a 'phishing' email from anyone using the special email address
I created. This is highly recommended if you can have multiple
addresses or aliases on
--- Stephen Barncard
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But one will never know whether it was
coincidence or not unless one
uses a special email address for Paypal
transactions. I have never
gotten a 'phishing' email from anyone using the
special email address
I created. This is highly
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