Re: RevConWest06 slideshow is on the air

2006-07-09 Thread Dan Shafer
If we have another RevCon in Monterey, we may want to use this as an enticing advertisement! On 7/8/06, Chipp Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank-you Sandy for sharing these again this year. They all look great. Monterey is such a beautiful place and your pictures take me right back

Re: What's The Verdict, Web or Not?

2006-07-09 Thread Judy Perry
Greg, Sorry, I've been in Hotlanta visiting my parents with the kiddies, so I'm weighing in WAAYYY LATE on this. But, for what it's worth, I'm a poster child for weak, infantile users... who could never program their way out of a paper sack... And have been since ever looking at Hypercard.

Re: What's The Verdict, Web or Not?

2006-07-09 Thread Judy Perry
Hmmm... despite the very long threads on their user list(s) entitled nail in the coffin that existed even 2 to 3 years ago? Yikes!! but you already know why I'm not fond of Director... Judy On Mon, 3 Jul 2006, Richard Gaskin wrote: Bill Marriott wrote: By a plug-in comparable [to Rev] I

determining a plain text file

2006-07-09 Thread Scott Morrow
Does anyone have a method for determining whether a file is plain text that they would be willing to share? -Scott Morrow Elementary Software (Now with 20% less chalk dust !) web http://elementarysoftware.com/ email [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___

Re: Open .tiff files in Rev?

2006-07-09 Thread Ian Wood
On 9 Jul 2006, at 06:22, Ken Ray wrote: Rev 2.6.1 / OS X You can AppleScript the Image Events application to do this. See: http://www.apple.com/applescript/imageevents/03.html And look for the header called File Conversion. :-) Ken Ray You can also load TIFFs into a QuickTime player

Re: Open .tiff files in Rev?

2006-07-09 Thread Garrett Hylltun
On Jul 9, 2006, at 2:12 AM, Ian Wood wrote: [snip] You can also load TIFFs into a QuickTime player object, although this will be slower than command line conversion. A player object also doesn't have the image size limitation of image objects on OS X. Thanks, but this also reminds me of

include rev xml dll

2006-07-09 Thread Bob Hartley
Hi AlL I have a stack that uses xml. It works okay (import export etc) in the revIDE but when I compile the app it won't perform any of the xml commands. In earlier versions there was a dl...revxml in the extensions folder of the compilled app (windows platform). I'm using rev 2.7 latest

Re: Open .tiff files in Rev?

2006-07-09 Thread Ian Wood
On 9 Jul 2006, at 10:46, Garrett Hylltun wrote: On Jul 9, 2006, at 2:12 AM, Ian Wood wrote: A player object also doesn't have the image size limitation of image objects on OS X. Thanks, but this also reminds me of another question. I could swear that just the other day someone posted

Re: Open .tiff files in Rev?

2006-07-09 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Ian, On 9 Jul 2006, at 10:46, Garrett Hylltun wrote: On Jul 9, 2006, at 2:12 AM, Ian Wood wrote: A player object also doesn't have the image size limitation of image objects on OS X. Thanks, but this also reminds me of another question. I could swear that just the other day

Re: [OT] Market Share

2006-07-09 Thread Jim Carwardine
Very interesting and basically supports the core of this thread... Jim on 7/8/06 9:19 PM, Mark Swindell wrote: Niether fanning nor dousing, but I thought this an interesting tidbit. -Mark http://arstechnica.com/journals/apple.ars/2006/7/8/4569

Re: [OT] Market Share

2006-07-09 Thread Bill Marriott
Thank Intel + BootCamp. Jim Carwardine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Very interesting and basically supports the core of this thread... Jim on 7/8/06 9:19 PM, Mark Swindell wrote: Niether fanning nor dousing, but I thought this an interesting tidbit. -Mark

Re: Of Lists and Dependence

2006-07-09 Thread Bill Marriott
A 4.2KB stack that is also a perfect example of content ideally shown within a browser :) Scott Rossi wrote... Execute the following in your Revolution message box: go url http://www.i-view.net/tactile/noiz.rev; ___ use-revolution mailing list

Re: Open .tiff files in Rev?

2006-07-09 Thread Ton Kuypers
This should do the trick for Image Events: ON mouseUp answer file Select an image... IF it = empty THEN exit mouseUp put it into vFile put tell application quote Image Events quote cr into vAS put launch cr after vAS put set vImage to open quote vFile

Re: [OT] Market Share

2006-07-09 Thread Rob Cozens
Jim, Your response to my post could have been written by me -- four years ago. My first personal computer was an original IBM PC. My second was a Mac SE/3O, and I never owned a computer running Windows until I bought a Motion M13OO Tablet PC. When friends asked, should I buy a Mac or a PC

Re: [OT] Market Share

2006-07-09 Thread Mark Smith
Rob, I think you'd have to admit that this is a fairly narrow, one- issue view. Essentially, what you're saying is that Windows does tablet, and Mac doesn't. What's the market share for tablet PCs? Not that I mean that we should all ignore tablet PCs, far from it, in fact it illustrates

Re: Open .tiff files in Rev?

2006-07-09 Thread sims
At 8:36 PM -0700 7/8/06, Garrett Hylltun wrote: For some reason I had it in my mind that Rev could open .tiff files, but I found that I was wrong. Does anyone know of a way to load .tiff files into Rev, or of a way to convert the images via command line through Rev? I'm a little late to

[OT] Market Share

2006-07-09 Thread Richmond Mathewson
Feeling grungy about the use of both a few posts back re OS's - I use Windows 2000, about 4 types of Linux (on a regular basis), Mac OS X and Mac OS 9 (Classic): the only reason I don't, at present, use RISC OS 5, is that I have to find a way to pay for an Iyonix {By-Ther-Way - several schools

Re: [OT] Market Share

2006-07-09 Thread Rob Cozens
Mark, et al: I think you'd have to admit that this is a fairly narrow, one-issue view. Essentially, what you're saying is that Windows does tablet, and Mac doesn't. I don't think so: * My TPC is just as stable--perhaps more so--than the Mac OSX boxes I'm running * I've replaced the

Re: [OT] Market Share

2006-07-09 Thread Rob Cozens
Mark, et al: What's the market share for tablet PCs? I brought up the TPC in response to the assertion that Apple technology was light years ahead of Windows, and I don't have a clue as to the TPC's current market share... but I am willing to bet it will grow to make it the platform of

Re: [OT] Market Share

2006-07-09 Thread Richard Gaskin
Bill Marriott wrote: Thank Intel + BootCamp. End users can thank Intel and BootCamp, but for Mac developers nothing could be more of a threat. Since the beginning of Macdom, writing for the Mac was a choice you had to make, often a fairly expensive choice. But a lot of developers bit

Re: Open .tiff files in Rev?

2006-07-09 Thread Garrett Hylltun
On Jul 9, 2006, at 4:53 AM, Ian Wood wrote: On 9 Jul 2006, at 10:46, Garrett Hylltun wrote: On Jul 9, 2006, at 2:12 AM, Ian Wood wrote: A player object also doesn't have the image size limitation of image objects on OS X. Thanks, but this also reminds me of another question. I could

Re: determining a plain text file

2006-07-09 Thread J. Landman Gay
Scott Morrow wrote: Does anyone have a method for determining whether a file is plain text that they would be willing to share? On most platforms, you can just check whether the last four characters of the file name are .txt. On MacOS and OS X you should probably also check the file type,

Re: [OT] Market Share

2006-07-09 Thread Bill Marriott
It's possible you're right. But, I think this was the only way for them to get a certain, very large, group of people to even consider the Apple operating system. (There's essentially no Apple hardware anymore as we knew it.) The MacBook is the first Apple product I've considered purchasing in

Re: [OT] Market Share

2006-07-09 Thread Viktoras Didziulis
although I am not a Mac person yet, and buying Mac for software tests (Windows/Linux/Mac) is in my future plans only, I think the first successful step that increased market share of Apple was giving up Mac Classic and building the new OSX on nix ! This action increased availability of software

Using Return to move between field. help!

2006-07-09 Thread Ian McKnight
Hi I have a card with 3 text fields and 1 button. TraversalOn is True. AutoTab is True for all fields. The fields are sized to 1 line of text. When I press the Tabkey I get the expected behaviour-- the cursor moves from one field to the next in sequence highlighting any text as it goes or

Using Return to move between field. help!

2006-07-09 Thread Ian McKnight
Hi Sorry I pressed the send button too quickly. FWIW I'm using Rev Media 2.7.1 Thanks ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:

Re: Using Return to move between field. help!

2006-07-09 Thread Sarah Reichelt
On 7/10/06, Ian McKnight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I have a card with 3 text fields and 1 button. TraversalOn is True. AutoTab is True for all fields. The fields are sized to 1 line of text. When I press the Tabkey I get the expected behaviour-- the cursor moves from one field to the next

Re: Open .tiff files in Rev?

2006-07-09 Thread Garrett Hylltun
Rev 2.6.1 / OS X Greetings, Is it possible to set the background of the QT Player object to transparent when loading a .tiff file into it? And or, is it possible to save out the .tiff image in the player to a .png? If no to both then I'll stick with the applescript method that Ken Ray

Re: [OT] Market Share

2006-07-09 Thread Jim Carwardine
Rob, I think that your response to new computer buyers is the best advice anyone could ever give. I bought a Mac in 1985 and it was my first computer. I bought it for 2 reasons, first, after 17 years in the computer industry, it was the first personal computer I could rationalize because I

Re: determining a plain text file

2006-07-09 Thread Dan Shafer
The file name approach will work but it does rely on the person or program creating the file to provide a correct file extension. Some files I might characterize as plain text might have different extensions (most notably HTML files which are all pure text but tagged information). To be sure the

Re: fstab

2006-07-09 Thread Bob Warren
Mark Wieder wrote: How about looking at the /etc/fstab file and checking for the presence of a /dev/fd0 entry? Bob Warren wrote: That works fine on Ubuntu, but for other distros the fstab is either in a different place or it doesn't even seem to exist! Mark Wieder wrote: I'm sure you've

Re: [OT] Market Share

2006-07-09 Thread Chipp Walters
Bill and Richard I couldn't agree with you more. I would only add that it's much harder to develop for a moving target, aka the Mac OSX, than the major update every 5 years with Windows. Frankly, I'm in the minority as I *much* prefer *not* having to purchase an update for my OS every year. I

Re: [OT] Market Share

2006-07-09 Thread Dan Shafer
Wow, this latest round of messages constitutes one of the nicest, most informative and useful threads on this subject I've read in a while. Congratulations to all of you who have participated recently. I am certainly a Mac bigot. But I no longer see Mac and OS X as inherently vastly superior to

Re: RevConWest06 slideshow is on the air

2006-07-09 Thread Ron Noice
Great slide show. On a related topic, prior to the show I believe there was discussion about someone or some company recording various presentations and speaker sessions. Was that done? Are the recordings available for those of us unable to attend the conference? Thanks. ... Ron

Re: Using Return to move between field. help!

2006-07-09 Thread Ian McKnight
On 09/07/06, Sarah Reichelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/10/06, Ian McKnight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I have ReturnInField and EnterInField handlers in the card script. The RIF handler calls the handler to process the input text (using the target fn to identify individual fields)

Re: [OT] Market Share

2006-07-09 Thread Mark Smith
Rob, the reason I asked 'what's the market share for tablet PCs?' (I don't know the answer, either) was simply the title of this thread. I certainly wasn't trying to disparage TPCs. I assume most modern OSes to be generally stable, though as a mac- user of many years I'd have to say that

Re: [OT] Market Share

2006-07-09 Thread Mark Smith
That may be the developers view - what about the users? I am not a professional developer, and as a user (I have 10.4 on a PB for personal stuff, 10.3 on a 7 year old 350Mhz G3 that runs as a print server and other things, and 10.2 on a dual G4 that runs my music stuff) I have not found

Re: [OT] Market Share

2006-07-09 Thread Chipp Walters
Hi Mark, On 7/9/06, Mark Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having said that, I've generaly avoided the bleeding edge, and I tend to only upgrade anything when there is a fairly compelling reason to, like some new feature that I might actually use :) Generally speaking, a great bit of advice for

Re: determining a plain text file

2006-07-09 Thread Cubist
In a message dated 7/9/06 11:38:23 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anyone have a method for determining whether a file is plain text that they would be willing to share? This is not a simple question to answer. Consider that a *web page* is plain text -- what makes it a web page is what a

Re: Rev for Linux Seal of Approval

2006-07-09 Thread Rishi Viner
On Friday 07 July 2006 17:12, Chipp Walters wrote: We do have something running in the labs right now. But really, is there enough of an installed user base of Rev developers in Linux to make it a commercially viable product? Besides, aren't most Linux users wanting NOT TO PAY for stuff?

Re: [OT] Market Share

2006-07-09 Thread Jim Carwardine
I was an HC developer in the early 90's but gave up and became a user simply because it was too difficult to keep up with the changes in the industry. I can only imagine the intensity of effort required to stay current and relevant on multiple platforms. No wonder Rev is so important. No wonder

Re: [OT] Market Share

2006-07-09 Thread Rishi Viner
On Monday 10 July 2006 05:45, Richard Gaskin wrote: Then along came BootCamp, and eventually a variant which further blurs the lines between Mac and Windows apps. When that version arrives, there will be little incentive to support Mac developers -- and that includes cross platform developers

Re: [OT] Market Share

2006-07-09 Thread Rishi Viner
On Monday 10 July 2006 04:12, Richmond Mathewson wrote: There are 2 definitions of a killer app and the one I don't like is the amazing app that ties users in to a dependence on one OS for ever. Agreed. People are generally less and less happy with being locked in to anything... Wouldn't it

Re: Open .tiff files in Rev?

2006-07-09 Thread Garrett Hylltun
The AppleScript route that Ken Ray suggested works just fine. Thanks to everyone who helped out, -Garrett ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription

Re: determining a plain text file

2006-07-09 Thread Bill Marriott
How about this idea: put url file:{yourfile} into oneFile put replacetext (oneFile,[^\x20-\x7E\n\r\t],) into twoFile if length(oneFile) = length(twoFile) then put It's a plain text file. Basically it deletes anything that is not a tab, return, linefeed, or between space and tilde. If it's a

Re: determining a plain text file

2006-07-09 Thread J. Landman Gay
Bill Marriott wrote: How about this idea: put url file:{yourfile} into oneFile put replacetext (oneFile,[^\x20-\x7E\n\r\t],) into twoFile if length(oneFile) = length(twoFile) then put It's a plain text file. That's pretty clever. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: determining a plain text file

2006-07-09 Thread Bill Marriott
Slightly more clever (length isn't actually needed) put url file:{yourfile} into daFile if daFile = replacetext (daFile,[^\x20-\x7E\n\r\t],) then put Plain text. J. Landman Gay wrote: Bill Marriott wrote: put url file:{yourfile} into oneFile put replacetext (oneFile,[^\x20-\x7E\n\r\t],)

Re: fstab

2006-07-09 Thread J. Landman Gay
Bob Warren wrote: Unfortunately, it doesn't solve my problem. My file/picture chooser widgets examine the fstab to see whether or not they should put icons for floppy and CD at the top. On all the above platforms, it works fine in the project, but when running the standalone the icons do not

Re: RevConWest06 slideshow is on the air

2006-07-09 Thread Jim Ault
Yes, there was a professional crew doing the job. Now it is in post production to develop a library of DVD's. I, too, am waiting. I don't know how soon this will be available. Jim Ault Las Vegas On 7/9/06 4:24 PM, Ron Noice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great slide show. On a related topic,

Re: how the internet works : the official explanation

2006-07-09 Thread Judy Perry
Someone is on some serious meds here... or needs some @;-) I think I'm gonna have to bookmark this one for next semester's course on Computers Society -- and some of the bozos who regulate the same. And there are clearly rather alot of people who think of it as a major dumping space... Judy

Re: What's The Verdict, Web or Not?

2006-07-09 Thread Judy Perry
But, does it feature a foreword from Jacque's parrots??? Judy On Wed, 5 Jul 2006, Dan Shafer wrote: Too late. The Complete Book of AJAX: Or How I Learned to Love Pigeons Despite Their Poop coming soon to a bookstore near you. :-D Dan ___

Re: What's The Verdict, Web or Not?

2006-07-09 Thread Dan Shafer
No, they wanted cover credit and a piece of the royalties so I hired a handicapped Tucan instead. On 7/9/06, Judy Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But, does it feature a foreword from Jacque's parrots??? Judy On Wed, 5 Jul 2006, Dan Shafer wrote: Too late. The Complete Book of AJAX: Or How