Teach Yourself Programming in Ten Years
During this turkey inspired holiday I have decided to reinvest myself and my money in Revolution. I updated to 2.61 of the IDE and picked up some Valentina licenses to boot! (Though I'm a little bummed that it's not Valentina 2.0 - the documentation and examples are much easier to grok) As I was surfing the web for programming inspiration I found an article that has helped me put my learning curve in perspective, and I thought I would share it with the list. http://www.norvig.com/21-days.html With no formal programming experience and no Hypercard background its been slow going for me. As a technologist I am very comfortable using computers, I can make servers bend to my will for most functions, but when it comes to creating something from nothing I am stifled. I feel like I cannot get off the ground floor with anything - Applescript, PERL, bash, Revolution, and I think the reason is because I'm rushing it. Real expertise takes time, even if your chosen programming environment promises to save 90% of it : ) Thoughts? Todd -- Todd Higgins [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Teach Yourself Programming in Ten Years
Excellent suggestions Sarah. Your right, I need to start simple and work toward the complex. Between reading about all of the exciting stuff people are doing with Rev and my own overactive imaginations its difficult to buckle down and start with Hello World : ) Thanks Todd -- Todd Higgins [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Nov 26, 2005, at 2:28 AM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: With no formal programming experience and no Hypercard background its been slow going for me. As a technologist I am very comfortable using computers, I can make servers bend to my will for most functions, but when it comes to creating something from nothing I am stifled. I feel like I cannot get off the ground floor with anything - Applescript, PERL, bash, Revolution, and I think the reason is because I'm rushing it. My advice would be to find a SIMPLE project that you can see some value in but that is not too demanding. Write it and then start to improve it. Some people like to work by laying out the interface completely before starting any scripting. I tend to work by adding a few controls, scripting them and then adding more. It just depends which makes you feel more comfortable. For example, a lot of people start with a simple address book. Just write a stack with one entry per card that stores names and addresses. Then add a search routine. Next add reporting, so you can print a list of phone numbers. Then perhaps you want to be able to click a button and email a person in your list. If your database is getting big, you may want to explore different data storage mechanisms, perhaps even going to an external database like Valentina or MySQL. Now work out how to make it into a standalone. If you work your way through this progression, I am sure you will have a much better understanding of Rev's and your capabilities. Then you might want to go on to something more complex e.g. heavy database management, or some utility to integrate with your servers. Don't start off trying to integrate a multi-user external database with TCP sockets and C++ externals. All those things can be done, but they are not easy. Your need to get to know how Rev works normally: stacks cards, button, fields - basic stuff - before you start to work with the more esoteric parts of the system. As a starting point, I highly recommend that you have a look at the Scripting conference stacks. They start with very basic stuff and build on that. And remember, there are a lot of very experienced people on this list, so no matter what problems you encounter, ask and someone will be sure to help. HTH, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Into the flamefest
Hi Andre, I would love to hear more about how you are using rev as an extension to Mac OS X. Could you elaborate on how you are extending the built in apps (with some screen shots?) Thanks -- Todd Higgins [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Dec 6, 2005, at 10:36 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: I have my own mailers and rich text editor. I have my own image browsing and screen grabber tool. I have interfaces from Rev to iCal, AddressBook, Apple Mail and the Terminal. Revolution is becoming more than a simple IDE for me and it's becoming a crucial part of my computing experience. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How young are the coders...
I don't know if this counts, but my son is 5 years old, and he has enjoyed listening to me read from Dan's book : ) -- Todd Higgins [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Dec 7, 2005, at 9:28 AM, David Burgun wrote: she was intrigued with the possibility of making the CEO into a flying pig that circled the window (I was testing Arcade Engine at the time). I would love to see that stack! :-) Speaking for germany, I know that quite a few of the folks that hang around at revolutionboard.de are far younger than 20. One of the most talented of them is 17. :-) I can't see how 17 is *far* under than 20 Guess it depends on how old you are! lol! Bye for Now Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Rev Evangelist? (was Re: Why is Konfabulator Pretty?)
What has happened to Ro Nagey? I thought he was the Rev evangelist? Todd -- Todd Higgins [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Dec 10, 2005, at 3:56 PM, Dan Shafer wrote: I hope you guys keep carrying this forward. This is very exciting and exactly the kind of thing that a Rev evangelist, if such a person existed, would salivate over being able to show. ~~ Dan Shafer, Information Product Consultant and Author http://www.shafermedia.com Get my book, Revolution: Software at the Speed of Thought From http://www.shafermediastore.com/tech_main.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: somewhat OT : Rev cgi Safari
Hi jbv, On Mar 23, 2006, at 6:18 AM, jbv wrote: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X; fr-fr) AppleWebKit/312.8 (KHTML, like Gecko) Safari/312.6 Based on the user agent information that is Safari 1.3.2 running on Mac OS X 10.3.9 with the latest security update installed. You can find a chart that details all of the useragent string versions here: http://developer.apple.com/internet/safari/uamatrix.html When troubleshooting Safari and webkit issues I recommend this site: http://webkit.opendarwin.org/ Regards, Todd -- Todd Higgins [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Runtime Revolution Ships Revolution Media
Some stats from Google: Results 1 - 10 of about 395,000,000 for revolution The first relevant link was the runrev homepage (14th) The most prominent links (and text ads) had to do with heartworm medicine for you pets. Also note that the next generation Nintendo game station is also called Revolution. Once that ships I think runrev is going to be lucky if they are on the 14th page of results with this keyword. Results 1 - 10 of about 157,000,000 for Transcript No relevant links in the first 10 pages. Very common word, text ads referred to college transcripts Results 1 - 10 of about 4,850,000 for revolution transcript. The 7 of the first 10 sites were for relevant websites. There were no text ads displayed. (Perhaps that is a marketing opportunity for someone?) For someone that wants to find out information about Results 1 - 10 of about 22,100,000 for revolution programming Similar results 7 of the first 10 sites are relevant, but the 5th site was about Nintendo's game station... Again no text ads. Results 1 - 10 of about 66,800,000 for revolution language 2 out of the first 10 are relevant. Results 1 - 10 of about 30,000,000 for transcript language. The first 4 links are relevant (for a total of 5 of the first 10) I am not Search Engine Optimizer or anything like that, but it looks to me as the inclusion of the word 'transcript' really narrows the search results and produces more relevant links than just 'revolution' Now I am sure runrev will do their best to update all of their references, but the do not have any control over third party links, plus once Nintendo's Revolution ships I expect runrev to be buried under all of the gaming website links. Todd On Apr 11, 2006, at 6:19 PM, Robert Brenstein wrote: Why introduce confusion and exacerbate a perception of flightiness only to assist a branding effort which accounts for a scenario that never happened? It may be the case that Adobe, Macromedia, Netscape, Apple, Asymetrix, and other companies with strong market research departments are not entirely wrong on this. If you'd like to send me the case studies used internally at these companies to support your argument, it would go a long way in convincing one way or the other. As I said earlier, I don't see the change so significant really in either direction. I presume this was discussed heavily and the decision was not made lightly, although there are pros and cons for either. The only thing that makes me somewhat uncomfortable, on the second thought, is calling a programming language revolution. Kinda odd, considering that it is a common word. May be a compromise could be to retain the name but don't call it be name in the marketing materials, simply referring to the scripting language OF Revolution. I find this more clear than English-like Revolution is the easiest scripting language available. Robert ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Cringely on BootCamp's future
While you would just use it to run Revolution, for people who buy it to do general purpose computing the software included is quite a deal. Not just the OS, but all of the creative apps, Front Row w/ the IR remote etc. http://www.apple.com/macmini/whatsinside.html On Apr 18, 2006, at 9:31 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: Spoke too quick. Turns out the Mac Mini I was referring to was not a Core Duo but Core Solo. Bummer. So, now a 1.66Ghz, 1GB memory, 100Gb hard drive MacMini costs $959 (without tax). Add a OEM version of WinXP Home and you're up over $1000. I can get way much more down at the CompUSA for way less. Bummer, for a second I thought Apple had a product reasonably priced. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Universal binaries from Revolution
I saw a press release today on Mac Observer that Ten Thumbs Typing Tutor is now a universal binary. http://www.macobserver.com/article/2006/05/15.9.shtml I am under the impression that this application is built with Revolution. I did not see the capability to generate a Universal Binary mentioned in the release notes for 2.7.1. Was this in the 2.7 release and I missed it? Does this mean support for Revolution.app itself is not far behind? Inquiring minds would like to know. :-) -- Todd Higgins [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Uh-oh.... Anybody following WWDC?
Performa no, but in my experience there are a lot of people using OS X on G3's. Personally, I am running Tiger on a G3 500 Powerbook, Panther on a G3 366 iBook, and Panther Server on a G3 450 iMac. The majority of my customers are K-12 schools and the hang on to their hardware for 3-5 years (sometimes longer), and many of them swear that their G3 iMacs run better and faster now than when they were purchased. Apples latest OS actually improves end user responsiveness and number crunching performance On Jun 6, 2005, at 9:08 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: The theory is that Wintel (or at least Windows) users need to upgrade more frequently (because every new version of Windows is more bloated - apparently new versions of OS X have been the same or even more efficient). Sounds good, but how many folks are running OS X on their Performa? Or even a G3? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: updated page for RevConWest.
I would love to come, as I am sure a lot of other would as well. But for those that cannot make it out there this year, are there any plans to produce podcasts of the event? ( For those who have been under a rock about podcasts here is the wikipedia entry: http:// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Podcast ) Thanks to the RevConWest website I can now put a face to to some of the familar names on the list, but I would love to be able match up some voices as well! Todd On Jun 8, 2005, at 9:20 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: Hi Folks, I just noticed that the page for RevConWest was updated to feature the session descriptions, I think that anyone that still considering his enrollment should read and phone Dan for a spot to go. This year will be a hell of a conference! http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit/RevConWest/ Cheers andre -- Andre Alves Garzia 2004 BRAZIL http://studio.soapdog.org ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Confirm Long File Name Bug in Player Object
Is there a technical reason for Revolution having a 31 char limit in Mac OS X? Obviously the OS and filesystem support longer file names (256 chars) and there must be other Carbon application that support long filenames. Todd On Jun 23, 2005, at 3:25 PM, Eric Chatonet wrote: Hello Peter, Assuming Mac OS... Critical Thinking Instructions.png is 34 chars (you have to count the extension) Critical Thinking Instr.png is 27 chars. The limit is 31 :-) Le 23 juin 05 à 21:14, Peter T. Evensen a écrit : I am also noticing, on Mac, at least, the refusal to load images that are reference by long name. For example, a file named Critical Thinking Instructions.png will not load, but a file named Critical Thinking Instr.png will. I haven't played around with enough to see if it is the file name or the whole path. Best Regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. So Smart Software For institutions, companies and associations Built-to-order applications: management, multimedia, internet, etc. Windows, Mac OS and Linux... With the French touch Free plugins and tutorials on my website Web sitehttp://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Phone33 (0)1 43 31 77 62 Mobile33 (0)6 20 74 50 86 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Tiger breaks hyperCard?
This is true. New machines do not ship with the Classic System Folder. But If you have an existing Macintosh you can just copy the System Folder over. Todd On Jun 27, 2005, at 6:34 PM, Jim Hurley wrote: I had heard, from a distance source, that a new Mac with Tiger installed will not necessarily include classic. Anybody know whether this is true? Jim ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Blowing in the Wind
I would love to see the smooth effect, but it also flickers like mad under Rev 2.5.1, any chance of saving it as stack that I could get to from the Dreamcard 2.6.1 player? Thanks Todd On Aug 17, 2005, at 3:18 PM, MisterX wrote: actually, it's more like most european flags, flogged down the downpour ;( if you've been to Seattle, you know what i mean ;) ;) but this blowing stack really blows a lot of my expectations out of RunRev. It could do openGL if it really wanted too and in total transparency... just imagine the faces of the drulling developpers on other IDEs seeing this! cheers X -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Shafer Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 20:44 To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: Blowing in the Wind But I thought the wind was always blowing so strongly in Scotland that flags don't ripple, they just stand straight out. :-D Dan On Aug 17, 2005, at 5:21 AM, david bovill wrote: Lovely :) Any chance of a Scottish Flag? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Blowing in the Wind
Thanks Scott, I was able to get it play smoothly in the 2.6 Revolution Dreamcard Player. It is a beautiful effect, but it was sucking up 25% of my G4's processor (867 PB). Is that typical? Does anyone know how that would compare to a similar animation in Flash? Todd On Aug 19, 2005, at 3:40 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: Recently, Todd Higgins wrote: I would love to see the smooth effect, but it also flickers like mad under Rev 2.5.1, any chance of saving it as stack that I could get to from the Dreamcard 2.6.1 player? The flag stack is just that -- a stack. And it relies on the latest version of Rev to work since it uses the deep masks feature that is only present in the latest release. I don't know what version of the engine is present in Dreamcard 2.6.1 but if it's not based on the 2.6.5 (?) engine found in Rev, the flag stack still won't display properly. Sorry. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: test
Well, I can give you some of my as I have been getting doubles messages for the past 2 days. On Aug 23, 2005, at 3:06 PM, Chris Sheffield wrote: Test. My messages are bouncing. :-) -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally The Fluency Company http://www.readnaturally.com -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: There Was a Problem Saving the Standalone Application
On Jul 22, 2006, at 8:49 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: Just for the record, a 1 button mouse (which is the only way Mac laptops come configured) is so VERY last century. Especially when the operating system support the concept of right-click for properties, and scroll wheels. (and don't tell me you can use 2-button mice..i know that, it's just that right now, my PC laptop is...surpriseon my lap, and there's no desire for me to have to find a place for a mouse). Just for the record, there is no need to use a 2 button mouse when you can simulate multiple buttons, scroll wheels, and left and right clicks all with a trackpad and one mouse button. (and the appropriate piece of shareware) Having to have all of that hardcoded into a laptop is SO last century. ;-) http://www.ragingmenace.com/software/sidetrack/index.html -- Todd ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[OT] Of Mac Right Clicks (was Re: There Was a Problem Saving the Standalone Application)
On Jul 23, 2006, at 1:38 AM, Chipp Walters wrote: That's a nifty piece of software. Do you use it? I'm wondering how exactly one simulates a right-click? I wouldn't think taping on the track pad would work all that well. In fact, I've turned off 'tapping' on all my track pads for that reason My Macbook Pro is my primary machine, so I use the trackpad constantly (So much I was starting to develop wrist pains from constantly clicking with my thumb) I originally got the software for scrolling on my Powerbook (before Apple implemented two finger scrolling support in hardware) I use the trackpad tap set for left click with drag and the trackpad button set for right click People who want to borrow my machine for a few minutes are throughly confused, but I'm a lot more efficient and my wrist pain went away. I have 2 corners currently set as buttons for Expose and Dashboard. Chipp, if you wanted to you could set one corner button to Delete (which is a combo fn+delete on a Apple laptop) Regards, Todd ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Strange artifacts everywhere in MacOSX
Hi Stephen, I don't think it has anything to do with Rev. You have VoiceOver enabled on your computer: System Preferences - Universal Access - Voiceover Off (or hit Apple +F5) I you listen carefully, your computer is talking to you. Regards, Todd On Aug 11, 2006, at 2:34 PM, Stephen Barncard wrote: I'm not blaming Rev, or Galaxy or anything yet, however after updating everything -- Rev 2.7.3, Galaxy Studio, I started getting strange window and selection artifacts in every application on the Mac... This is a systemwide problem. Note the strange black outlines of different shapes around the windows - these goes away when the window isn't selected. On more complex windows, a box forms around a control, perhaps the first numbered item or something. I've re-installed Tiger (while keeping settings) and it didn't fix it. I've disabled Default Folder and Aliasmenu -- the only finder- altering extensions I'm aware of... no change. Anyone else see this? examples at http://barncard.com/gallery2/v/REV/20060809/ -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Solstice salutations!
I don't want to interject politics into this discussion, but I received the following holiday greeting and I thought I would pass it along as it may help other craft an appropriate end of the year greeting. ;-) For My Democratic Friends: Please accept with no obligation, explicit or implied, our best wishes for an environmentally conscious, socially responsible, low- stress, non-addictive, gender-neutral celebration of the winter solstice holiday, practiced within the most enjoyable traditions of the religious persuasion of your choice, or secular practices of your choice, with respect for the religious/secular persuasion and/or traditions of others, or their choice not to practice religious or secular traditions at all. We also wish you a fiscally successful, personally fulfilling and medically uncomplicated recognition of the onset of the generally accepted calendar year 2007, but not without due respect for the calendars of choice of other cultures whose contributions to society have helped make America great. Not to imply that America is necessarily greater than any other country nor the only America in the Western Hemisphere, and without regard to the race, creed, color, age, physical ability, religious faith or sexual preference of the wishee. By accepting these greetings you are accepting these terms. This greeting is subject to clarification or withdrawal. It is freely transferable with no alteration to the original greeting. It implies no promise by the wisher to actually implement any of the wishes for herself or himself or others, and is void where prohibited by law and is revocable at the sole discretion of the wisher. This wish is warranted to perform as expected within the usual application of good tidings for a period of one year or until the issuance of a subsequent holiday greeting, whichever comes first, and warranty is limited to replacement of this wish or issuance of a new wish at the sole discretion of the wisher. For My Republican Friends: Here's wishing all of You a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! Todd On Dec 19, 2006, at 4:29 PM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: I really believe the people who are really hyper-sensitive, criticism-aware are those with some sort of slightly unpleasant axes to grind. As I am not particularly insecure or worried that other people's points of view are going to dent my belief system I can take all the Happy Ramadans, Happy Diwalis Happy Christmases, Happy Janmashtamis and so on that are wished to me - and in every case I take it as I assume it is delivered; in a spirit of love and genuine good wishes. (And, if these wishes are delivered in a spirit other than that of love and so on, that is surely a problem for the wisher and not for me). For various rather complicated reasons (which I am neither going to explain nor justify) I think that Jesus was a good egg and, as such would like to extend (admittedly 6 days early) my best wishes to one and all on one of the days on which people celebrate his birthday. And for those who cannot fathom what I mean by that: Happy Christmas! sincerely, Richmond Mathewson Its time to do Philosophy and stop worrying about what dead men said. Mathewson 2006 Send instant messages to your online friends http:// uk.messenger.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
New user just introducing myself...
Hi Everyone, I purchased Dreamcard last fall and I upgraded to Revolution last month just in time to take advantage of the AltBrowser/MagicCarpet Xmas combo (Thanks Kevin and Chipp for the generous offer!) I have learned quite a lot about Revolution by reading the list (though I don't know how anyone can keep up with all of the traffic) and I want the makers of Revolution to know that part of the reason I decided to go with Revolution was because of the high quality (and personable) nature of the list. Like Len Morgan (another Revolution beginner on the list - Hi Len) I am having a hard time grokking Revolution. It seems like most people who come to Revolution have had previous experience with Hypercard (alas I was not so lucky, the first Mac I bought was a IIsi and it only came with the Hypercard player and I could not find the full version.) I am an experienced computer user, who has dabbled with Applescript and some shell scripting for my customers, but I have never worked in an IDE and have never developed a GUI tool. (My daytime job is System Engineer where I work on OS X Servers and W2K Servers) When I was evaluating Revolution previously, I remember seeing a tutorial section under help. I couldn't seem to find it in the 2.5 version, so I just ordered Dan's book : ) What other good habits would I do well to develop? Also, what plugins or externals do people consider essential to the Revolution development experience? I have read about a few on the list, but I'm not sure if the apply to me (or if I would just be unnecessarily complicating my learning curve) Any suggestions will be gratefully accepted! Thanks Todd -- Todd Higgins ASG Systems Engineer MICRO Technology Groupe, Inc voice: 215-788-6811 fax: 215-788-1766 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.mtgroupe.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New user just introducing myself...
Thanks everyone for the suggestions and comments. I most certainly will not hesitate to ask a questions as I journey down the road to becoming a Revolution builder ;-) Kevin, I agree that there is a lot of high quality introductory material included with 2.5. Its just that right now I can only attack Rev with small chunks of time and a tutorial PDF would make it easier to keep track of where I've been and where I plan to go... I would love to take a weekend and just immerse myself and explore all of the videos and scripts and projects, but until that weekend comes I need to just chip away at it. That's why I bought Dan's book (which I'm anxiously waiting for :-) to help keep me on track. Regards, Todd Feb 23, 2005, at 6:44 AM, Kevin Miller wrote: On 23/2/05 4:00 am, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I was evaluating Revolution previously, I remember seeing a tutorial section under help. I couldn't seem to find it in the 2.5 version, so I just ordered Dan's book : ) Somehow the Getting Started stuff fell out of v2.5 -- not sure how that happened, but I'm sure they're rushing an update which will restore that critical missing element. Actually, there is lots of new Getting Started material in v2.5. Its in the Learning Center, within revOnline. You'll find video and PDF guides that teach the key aspects of the product you need to know, as well as 10 fully commented and documented Sample Projects to take apart and learn from, and 50 Sample Scripts. You can also find the Video / PDF guides on our web site at: http://support.runrev.com/tutorials/ Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution - User-Centric Development Tools ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Todd Higgins ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Getting as much system info possible.
I'm not sure about Windows or Linux, but you could use the command system_profiler on OS X and then search for the following pieces of info: -amount of RAM Memory ( the first returned line will provide total system memory) -processor type CPU Type (i.e. PowerPC 750) ; CPU Speed -video card type not sure what information you would need, but you would find it under PCI/AGP Cards -video card Ram VRAM (Total) -free HD space Available (will return HD space of boot drive) Usually I would use grep to get the info that I need, but I would love to know the best way to do this with Rev. Todd Malte Brill wrote: Hi List, inspired by the erratic screen updates (was Slow screen lock/unlock) Thread I´m starting a new one. :-) I would like to find as much information on the machine a stack runs on as possible. I´m especially interested in: -amount of RAM -processor type -video card type -video card Ram -free HD space I *guess* it should be possible to retrieve that data using the shell on OsX / Linux / Unix and XP, but I have not too many ideas how to go about it. The first wild guess for OsX would be to get shell(dmesg) and walk through each line of it to retrieve information. Any thoughts for the other platforms and a better way for OsX? Cheers, Malte ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: 10.4 Automator = Applescript?
Applescript will continue on strong as ever. Automator is just a tool that will help people harness the power of Applescript without having to learn how to program. Or so the marketing speak goes. ; ) On Apr 25, 2005, at 2:40 PM, Kurt Kaufman wrote: Anyone know if Mac 10.4's Automator is a collection of customizable pre-fab Applescripts? As the author of a few Rev utilities that use Applescript, I'm wondering if Applescript will continue as before? KK ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Todd Higgins ASG Systems Engineer MICRO Technology Groupe, Inc voice: 215-788-6811 fax: 215-788-1766 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.mtgroupe.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revGoURL Not Working in Tiger?
Hi Dan, No problems for me. I am running Rev 2.5.1 on Mac OS X 10.4 (upgrade install from 10.3.9) Todd On May 1, 2005, at 6:56 PM, Dan Shafer wrote: It may be peculiar to my setup, but can someone try revGoURL in Tiger and report back? I can't get it to work. Nothing happens at all. ~~ Dan Shafer, Co-Chair RevConWest '05 June 17-18, 2005, Monterey, California http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit/RevConWest ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Todd Higgins ASG Systems Engineer MICRO Technology Groupe, Inc voice: 215-788-6811 fax: 215-788-1766 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.mtgroupe.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to start Rev by shell or startup item in the background under Mac OS X
Hi, Keep in mind that with Tiger (10.4), Apple is providing a new method to start daemons, and other background services -launchd. It is part of the both the client and server. I would imagine that if you were deploying your app on 10.3 or lower you could package it up just like you do for linux. But 10.4 on up it looks like launchd is the way to go. From Apple's website: launchd provides faster startup through a unified framework for starting, stopping and managing daemons, and incorporates inetd, init, mach_init, System Starter and related services. Administrators have a single mechanism for auditing, configuring and setting resources limits on services. Regards, Todd On May 2, 2005, at 1:38 PM, Pierre Sahores wrote: Hello to All, I use Rev as a deamon server (alike Apache, PostgreSQL and so on - not just as a CGI engine) under the linux platform in starting stack's instances in the Init System V way. I would be interested to know if anyone can say if it is possible to get the same result under the Mac OS X platform and if yes, how to set up Rev to be able to start it as a deamon application (witch engine and librairies, how to build the start-up adequate component) ? Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Best Regards, -- Pierre Sahores 100, rue de Paris F - 77140 Nemours [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] GSM: +33 6 03 95 77 70 Pro: +33 1 64 45 05 33 Fax: +33 1 64 45 05 33 http://www.sahores-conseil.com/ WEB/VoD/ACID-DB services over IP Mutualiser les deltas de productivité ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Todd Higgins ASG Systems Engineer MICRO Technology Groupe, Inc voice: 215-788-6811 fax: 215-788-1766 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.mtgroupe.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: To Rev or not to Rev
Hi Dave, Please follow the link to unsubscribe from this list. http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Todd On May 5, 2005, at 8:53 PM, Dave Rousseau wrote: Please stop sending me this junk email I do not know how or when I got hooked up to it, but please stop NOW!! - Original Message - From: Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 7:16 AM Subject: Re: To Rev or not to Rev -- Todd Higgins email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Anyone using AltBrowser
If there is indeed a problem with AltBrowser and Webkit then it would affect 10.3.9 as well. Apple updated Safari/ Webkit to keep it compatible with 10.4. From the primary Safari developer's weblog: http:// weblogs.mozillazine.org/hyatt/archives/2005_04.html#007962 Posted at 10:35 PM Those of you running Panther can now update to 10.3.9. This update includes Safari 1.3 and new versions of WebKit, WebCore, and JavaScriptCore that contain thousands of improvements we've made to the engine since Safari 1.2. What you are getting is all of the new standards support, new WebKit capabilites, site compatibility fixes and performance optimizations that are also present in Safari 2.0 for Tiger. The layout engines for the two are virtually identical. Regards, Todd On May 28, 2005, at 10:49 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: Chipp, is it still a problem in OSX 10.3.9 which I am using now. My problem was a lack of understanding how to put the pieces together to make it work. Or is .9 a problem too. I can wait till you are done visiting with family Chipp. Where on the East Coast, I am in Pittsburgh PA Well i will ask for help in a week or so, Tks Tom On May 28, 2005, at 1:09 AM, Chipp Walters wrote: Hi Thomas, Dan, Klaus and Richard are correct. 1) I am away this week, visiting family on the east coast; 2) We are currently working on a Tiger fix. Bummer is, everytime Apple upgrades their OS (including dotdot upgrades), they sometimes create new problems for us. Because Apple has such a small developer community, products like their WebKit don't get tested or used much so, when someone like us trys to build a product around what can best be described as 'beta-quality Apple software', we end up 'debugging' Apple's code as well. Plus, it's difficult if not impossible to get any help from Apple unless one is willing to pony up major bucks. Thankfully it doesn't happen on the Windows side. We'll be sure and post when we get the upgrade. best, Chipp Thomas McGrath III wrote: Hello all, I can't seem to figure out how to put an AltBrowser into a card on my stack. I have sent emails to Altuit but it seems no one is there (Chipp???) anyway if someone here has used the library in their own stack maybe you could help me understand how to do it. It is an issue with getting a library that exists in another stack and putting that into my existing stack. I read the docs 6 times from AltBrowser but after 23 crashes to rev and now an unopenable stack (Yes I keep lots of backups so no biggie) I am at a loss. Hopefully waiting Tom Thomas J. McGrath III SCS 1000 Killarney Dr. Pittsburgh, PA 15234 412-885-8541 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Thomas J. McGrath III SCS 1000 Killarney Dr. Pittsburgh, PA 15234 412-885-8541 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev. User Groups in the USA?
I live in beautiful Lancaster County PA (home of the Amish). It is a nice central location for people traveling from Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Wash. DC, Baltimore, etc. Regards, Todd On Jun 3, 2005, at 10:52 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: I'm in Pittsburgh Pennsylvania. and a beautiful city it is Tom On Jun 3, 2005, at 6:15 PM, Ray Bennett wrote: I'm in Pennsylvania. I have 2 others working with me and could rationalize a road trip - either driving a day (so, Hotlanta's about the limit - that's 11 hours) or flying somewhere for which it's possible to get good flight deals. On Friday, June 03, 2005, at 01:56PM, Jim Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am in Tallahassee, Florida and would travel to Atlanta, Jacksonville, Orlando, etc to attend a RevCon, and I would help support a regional group. Thanks. Jim Lyons On Jun 3, 2005, at 5:17 AM, Kat wrote: What about a Southeast RUG? I'm in east central coast of Florida, but have a son in the Hotlanta area I wouldn't mind visiting now and then ;-) Anybody else from around here? Cheers, Kat ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Thomas J. McGrath III SCS 1000 Killarney Dr. Pittsburgh, PA 15234 412-885-8541 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
running rev cgi on Mac OS X Server
xcellent article on http://www.hyperactivesw.com/cgitutorial/ (Thanks for the resource.) I was not able to find the Darwin engine to download, so I pulled the executable out of the Revolution.app I am getting the following error in my web server log when I try to run the hello.cgi. [Fri Jun 3 23:36:59 2005] [error] [client 192.168.254.2] Premature end of script headers: /Library/WebServer/CGI-Executables/ hello.cgi When I run the script in the message box I get this error: Script compile error: Error description: Handler: error in command What am I doing something wrong? I have retyped the script verbatim (w/ TextWrangler) and saved it to the server with the proper permissions. hello.cgi script begin -- #!revolution on startup put Content-Type: text/plain cr cr put Hello World! end startup -- script ends Any suggestions? Is it possible that the rev engine is not running? Or is there something wrong with the formatting of my script? Thanks in advance. Todd ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
running rev cgi on Mac OS X Server
(I am apologize if this is a dupe, this is the 3rd attempt to get this message to the list.) I am trying to run a rev cgi on my Mac OS X Server and I am running into an error. First of all I am following the excellent article on http://www.hyperactivesw.com/cgitutorial/ (Thanks for the resource.) I was not able to find the Darwin engine to download, so I pulled the executable out of the Revolution.app I am getting the following error in my web server log when I try to run the hello.cgi. [Fri Jun 3 23:36:59 2005] [error] [client 192.168.254.2] Premature end of script headers: /Library/WebServer/CGI-Executables/ hello.cgi When I run the script in the message box I get this error: Script compile error: Error description: Handler: error in command What am I doing something wrong? I have retyped the script verbatim (w/ TextWrangler) and saved it to the server with the proper permissions. hello.cgi script begin -- #!revolution on startup put Content-Type: text/plain cr cr put Hello World! end startup -- script ends Any suggestions? Is it possible that the rev engine is not running? Or is there something wrong with the formatting of my script? Thanks in advance. Todd ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: running rev cgi on Mac OS X Server
Thanks BvG, I could swear that I tried the link from the tutorial last night and all I got was a 403 Forbidden page. It was the engine, everything is working now. Todd On Jun 4, 2005, at 11:14 AM, Björnke von Gierke wrote: On Jun 04 2005, at 14:30, Todd Higgins wrote: (I am apologize if this is a dupe, this is the 3rd attempt to get this message to the list.) I am trying to run a rev cgi on my Mac OS X Server and I am running into an error. First of all I am following the excellent article on http://www.hyperactivesw.com/cgitutorial/ (Thanks for the resource.) I was not able to find the Darwin engine to download, so I pulled the executable out of the Revolution.app that's the problem. you need the cgi engine. they are pretty well hidden on the rev page right now, but you can find the mac os x version on the intro page of the cgitutorial: http://www.hyperactivesw.com/cgitutorial/intro.html#Installing -- official ChatRev page: http://chatrev.cjb.net Chat with other RunRev developers: go stack URL http://homepage.mac.com/bvg/chatrev1.3.rev; ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: running rev cgi on Mac OS X Server
Thanks Andre, I will take a look at it. Is this the same libCGI that has a sourceforge website or a different one? I would love to meet you and the other Revvers, but I will not be able to make it out this year. (To many commitments to close together) Someone needs to work on a Revcon East : ) Regards, Todd On Jun 4, 2005, at 2:14 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: On Jun 4, 2005, at 1:23 PM, Todd Higgins wrote: Thanks BvG, I could swear that I tried the link from the tutorial last night and all I got was a 403 Forbidden page. It was the engine, everything is working now. Todd Todd, take a look into libCGI is a real timesaver. Also if you happen to be at RevConWest would be fun to see you there in the CGI track. Cheers andre -- Andre Alves Garzia 2004 BRAZIL http://studio.soapdog.org ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: pList compression
On Oct 3, 2007, at 11:55 AM, David Bovill wrote: Does anyone know how MacOs pList files are (optionally) compressed (ie preference pList files). I can't work it out or find a reference to this on the net. I have had a few goes with zip, gzip and bzip2 without success so far? Hi David, I'm not sure if this is what you are looking for, but some plist files are in a binary format instead of just raw XML. Apple has provided a command line utility that allows you to convert between the two formats. NAME plutil -- property list utility SYNOPSIS plutil [command_option] [other_options] file ... DESCRIPTION plutil can be used to check the syntax of property list files, or convert a plist file from one format to another. Regards Todd ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: What's Up With RevCon West?
I agree with Roger, please consider an East Coast location Thanks, An East Coast coder, Todd On Dec 21, 2006, at 5:16 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan wrote: They asked us to hold off until they could make their own conference plans clearer. That was the first we'd heard that they were planning to do a (potentially competitive) conference this year and it further reinforced our decision. Then Lynn wrote: Im snipping out the portion of your email where it diverges from Runtime's perception of events. I have no interest in the soap opera'ish story that is unfolding on this list about why RevConWest is no more, or who is to blame for the information leak. What concerns me is that the planned location of the conference is seemingly locked-in to the west coast, and I am an east coast Rev user. I would prefer a Rev sponsored event to take place either alternating on the west/east coast, or that is always somewhere in the middle, or keeps moving around each year to keep it interesting. I've wanted to attend, but have never been able to justify the distance of travel and length of time away from work. Single day or two day events are easier to justify/balance with work. I look forward to seeing what RunTime comes up with to engage the broader Rev audience. Roger Eller [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Working with Microsoft Exchange Server
Will this site have to support Entourage (mac) users? If so, then they will have to have Outlook Web Access enabled - which means you can use the RPC over http method or applescript Entourage (Yuck!) I would argue for POP access... Todd On Jan 9, 2007, at 11:00 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: Hi All, I have just been warned of an approaching problem and I wonder if anyone has any advice. I run numerous Mac-based kiosk systems which communicate back to base using email. I wrote a stripped-down email client in Rev that does POP SMTP. It ignores any HTML emails, attachments or any emails that do not match the standard structure, but deals with the others in a way that the main kiosk program can then handle. This works really well but I've just been informed that at one site, they are closing down their POP servers and switching to Microsoft Exchange Server with both POP IMAP turned off. They won't let me access an external POP server, so I need to find a way to access their Exchange server while still keeping programmatic control of the emails. So far (although I've only just started looking), I can't find any published protocol which I could use to adapt my existing client. At the moment I'm looking at buying Entourage and seeing if I can Applescript it enough to make it work, but that's a very bad solution - expensive and less secure. If anyone has any brilliant ideas, I'd love to hear them Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: lost everything, macbook and its HD broken.
Andre, Do not have you macbook shipped out to Apple for repair before you recover your data. Apple will typically reformat (or even replace) a hard drive even when it is in for unrelated repairs. It is possible that the hard drive has failed and is keeping the system from booting from the other drives. As others have suggested, disconnect the drive from the machine and try to boot from another device. But before you do that, have you tried Firewire target disk mode? (Try to start the machine with the T key held down)? What was your backup machine and what's broken? I might have the spare part you need. Good Luck, Todd On Jan 15, 2007, at 11:33 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: Friends, I was here coding some AJAX programs and developing libraries, my macbook just made a strange mechanical noise and then it was dead... when tried to boot, it made lots of mechanical noises and it never booted again. The noises are comming from the hard drive. I am assuming I lost everything. all my source code for the last year and everything I was working. I don't know what is broken... but I can't make it boot even from CDs... I don't know what I am to do now. I am writting from my old G4. I was doing some contract work and then it broke. The machine is now bricked. Can't boot from HD, Firewire, Network or CD, I've tried them all. The screen goes white, lot's of bad noises and the famous question mark of no system folder. I can't even erase the PRAM... never chimes. sorry for this annoucement but it will be a while till I set everything up again. Tomorrow I'll go to apple repair service but they are making a fool of me for more than three months already. I was waiting for a replacement main board for this same machine. Now it appears, I'll need a new machine. My backup machine was broken some months ago, I had no money to buy the parts to build it up again. The G4 had no space for hosting the macbooks backup. I think I just lost all my revolution source code which was maybe 5 or 6 gb worth of code. andre ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Old bug still in Rev 2.8 OSX Chapter 4
ÉrIC, You say you are starting with a fresh Rev install, are you also starting with a fresh My Revolution Studio folder? Regards, Todd On Feb 22, 2007, at 7:50 AM, Éric Miclo wrote: Hello Bill, If I dare to complain here it is not because of the bug but because I've already made lots of testing and that the bug is still considered as unconfirmed since the moment I did report it. I've downloaded your stack and tryied it with a fresh installed 2.8- gm3 version (with or without plugings) and it works the same way than mine: the preOpenStack, openStack won't be sent to the stack if you open it by double-clicking on it in the Finder. I t works the same on PPC and Intel Mac. Considering that it appeared through the 2.7.x release cycle without changing my configuration (other thatn installing new versions of Rev) I believe it is really a bug. Best, ÉrIC Le 22 févr. 07 à 00:05, Bill Marriott a écrit : Before we complain about things not being fixed, let's try to figure out what the real bug is. The sample stack (virtually identical to JLG's script) works fine on every system available to me. It might be the case that you have messages locked, or some other setting which is causing this. Please try using my sample stack with a fresh installation of Rev 2.8 gm-3 (i.e., installed to a new directory) and report on the specifics. Éric Miclo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, I made also some test a while ago about that bug. I was told that the bug would be resolved in the next version of Revolution... but it wasn't as for lots of old bugs (version 2.8 and now 2.9 sounds promising but honestly I will believe it when I'll see it). ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- My NeXT computer will Be a Mac too! -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[OT] REAL World 2007 keynote transcript
I did not attend the conference, but my friend did and brought back this transcript: http://truetech.org/pages/RW07Keynote.php Some interesting information can be gleaned from the transcript. It looks like RealBasic is claiming to have ~170 K users (Mac, Windows, Linux combined) and they are preparing to make a strong push into Europe etc. Regards Todd -- Todd Higgins [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] I have a confession...
Does you friend have a newer Mac (Powerbook G4 SD and newer)? If so, I would tell him to just put it to sleep. By default the contents of RAM is written to a disk image. Details on Safe Sleep can be found here: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1757 You can even enable it on slighter older machines. Here is a write up: http://www.mariospina.com/braindump/archives/2005/11/13/how_to_safe_sleep_hibernate_your_mac.php If he still insists, maybe you can force the hibernate function to occur at Shutdown as well. Regards, Todd On Mar 18, 2009, at 12:35 PM, Jim Sims wrote: On Mar 18, 2009, at 5:30 PM, Bernard Devlin wrote: then again I doubt that my kind of behaviour is normal. Sounds familiar :-) People been saying that about me for years now ;-) sims s...@ezpzapps.com Skype: sims.jim iChat: techietours __ Opportunity by Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] I have a confession...
The simplest solution to this problem would be just make the machine hibernate instead of sleep. Here is the command: sudo pmset -b hibernatemode 1 When on battery power and the sleep command is issued, the laptop will write the memory to disk and then powerdown the machine. I tested it on my 1st gen. Macbook Pro, and it worked as advertised. man pmset in the Terminal will give you the nitty gritty details about the command, but I found an article online that explains it nicely: http://www.pengekcs.com/2007/09/08/mac-os-x-hibernate-sleep-mode/ Regards, Todd On Mar 18, 2009, at 8:12 PM, Kay C Lan wrote: On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 3:45 AM, Todd Higgins higgin...@gmail.com wrote: Does you friend have a newer Mac (Powerbook G4 SD and newer)? If so, I would tell him to just put it to sleep. By default the contents of RAM is written to a disk image. Details on Safe Sleep can be found here: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1757 Yeah, this is a way cool feature. Sleep your MacBook, pull the battery out (unlucky for the new MBP 17 owners) for a second or two and then pop it back in. Next time you power up your MB it's right back where you left it. Probably not a long term recommended solution, but I've appreciated this feature way too many times than I should have. Towards a less brutal solution, on OS X, you might think about looking into ~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.recentitems.plist Unfortunately whilst this gives the name of the file in plain English, the path is given in some kind of code which fortunately can be decoded using AppleScript. Look here for some hints how to sort the list chronologically: http://macscripter.net/viewtopic.php?id=17554 My initial thoughts would be to work with the listed Documents, not Applications. Have the user set the Recent Document to a reasonable number. By sorting chronologically you should be able to remove any files that were opened the day previously, unfortunately if it's set to 20 and he opens 20 files and closes 10 of them on the same day, when he starts again it's going to open all 20 :-( HTH ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] I have a confession...
Actually, hibernation mode is a part of operating systems power management feature. Windows has had it for a while, and it looks like Linux does too, but only within the last year has it become reliable. :-) Regards, Todd On Mar 19, 2009, at 2:52 AM, Kay C Lan wrote: On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Jim Sims s...@ezpzapps.com wrote: This tip is very helpful! Some nice applescript on that web page. It looks like Todd has provided the most brilliant solution; well for recent equipment anyway running OS X. The beauty is that pmset has options for Desktops as well. The link Todd gave infers that there may be a Windows solution but it is just more complex. The fact that pmset only dates back to 2006 and is Darwin specific suggest the Linux boys are out of luck here too. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Difference between tRev and GLX2?
I am seeing a lot of traffic on the list in regards to tRev. Does that mean the GLX (like Galaxy before it) is now a defunct product? What if any difference is there between the 2 products? Is there any kind of reasonable upgrade path for a former GLX license holder? Thanks, Todd ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
