Not off topic at all. I'd say aim most of your work towards OSX -
Apple dropped support for 9 over a year ago. Rev's handling of the UI
between the two is sweet however and often doesn't need much
tweaking. More tweak would be needed for the windoze side.
Having said that - there's a large
By the way, it's really great to see your presence here on the list,
Kevin - I've been on a lot of 'geek-lists' and this is by far the
greatest bunch of guys I've hung out with online - very intelligent,
helpful and giving. We stay (mostly) on topic and potential flame
wars are drowned out
Why not just use a SQL database to store the data and use Rev to
gather and display your data? This will give you the best performance
and flexibility.
sqb
Thanks Frank,
That sounds most practical.
For my purpose, I could have it save a separate stack for every month's
worth of articles. I
I think the answer would be 'whatever people use computers for - really.
There are Rev users that range from hobbyists to the enterprise and
'shrink wrap' application developers.
Rev is nothing less than a very organized toolkit into the inner mojo
of all the major operating systems, a
Wouldn't the recordDelimiter be
return return ???
Hello everyone,
I'm processing a large text file where each record consists of
several hundred lines of information and is separated from the next
record by a single blank line. I'd normally use a handler like the
one below, where the
I think the answer would be 'whatever people use computers for - really.
There are Rev users that range from hobbyists to the enterprise and
'shrink wrap' application developers.
Rev is nothing less than a very organized toolkit into the inner mojo
of all the major operating systems, a
Doc, why not just point your mySQL login to Valentina? You shouldn't
have to change much at all.
They have a trial version -- it's an external for Rev...
http://www.paradigmasoft.com/index.html
http://www.paradigmasoft.com/index.htmlParadigmsoft
Now that the mySQL version of my first Rev app
Hey, Chipp -
A MP3 or OORG VORBIS external for playback. Streaming send and
receive would be a great bonus. Many players support OORG VORBIS.
Isn't the core code for the latter format Open Source?
sqb
If you have any other ideas, please let us know, either on this list or off.
Thanks again!
https:// indicates a secure site...
perhaps altBrowser could make this work.
I am having a problem with downloading from a particular type of URL
using Rev. It is a PDF document from the European Patent Office. One
example of this type of URL is the following:
there are few things you can't do in Rev. The wave of clever
and useful apps now appearing that were done in Rev are now showing
up.
stephen barncard
Hello All,
I consider myself a pretty good programmer and have been told I'm
fairly bright in general. I've had Revolution for a couple of weeks
Dan, if you have a copy of Golive 5,6,7 around, that might do the
trick. There's quite an extensive QT editor in there.
sqb
Trevor
Thanks. I need to look into this in greater detail. Do you have a
recommended tool for QT editing? I just use QTPro. At one point I
used MovieWorks but my
I would say plan for it in advance by the design you do right now.
Create some common place to put your data or stacks online, create
some central place for your data exchange, use MYSQL for data, etc.
Also using a version control system such as Magic Carpet would be
useful for collaborative
Hi Trevor -
I have version 104 of your BBEdit Transcript Language Module - and am
having trouble getting BBEDIT to recognized it. I put it into the
Language Module folder (OSX 3.8-- Has there been a big change lately
in versions that might break it? I currently have BBEdit 803.
I'd love to use
you put it in ~/Library/Application Support/BBEdit/Language
Modules? BBEdit 8 changed the support folder from BBEdit Support to
just BBEdit. Could that be the problem?
Trevor
Keep us posted... I need this too...
tks
Sivakatirswami
On Feb 14, 2005, at 1:33 PM, Stephen Barncard wrote:
Hi
Hi,
Does anyone know if its possible to rotate a QT movie using Rev. We
recently had to take some video using a camera sideways orientation
- so I either have to rotate the video 90 degrees or turn the
monitor over! I am sure I have read somewhere that QT Pro can do
this, but I don't really
Ro Nagey -- Heizer Software--- Royal...his name is on many stacks,
and obviously writes code...and has been on this list in earlier
times. I bought a lot of Heizer tools, and probably talked to him on
the phone sometime in the early 90's.
Could someone add more info about him? I know there's
Jackie - this is incredible. Thanks for the great tutorial. I get it
now. Very useful stuff! I bounce between web and app design all the
time and this brings it all together.
sqb
Op 19-feb-05 om 6:25 heeft Paul Salyers het volgende geschreven:
What is needed to tun a Rev program in a CGI folder
back in the Roaring 80's I used to use John A. Nairn's Printreport
that was a wonderful tool to get access to all the printer stuff.
There was no way to get or set just one parameter such as orientation
directly but he did provide a way to save all printing parameters by
using the data record
Tom,
I get motivation sometimes just exploring the rich RunRev feature
set. This stuff is DEEP and every entry into the Docs (thanks,
Heather) leads me to say wow, I didn't know you could do THAT.
Next thing you know I'm building something, or part of something I've
always wanted to do, but
What is different? The fields work exactly the same way - the LAYOUT
design is no different... and HC never had 'forms'.
sqb
OK, got it. It's quite a bit different than forms design in other
environments, including HC.
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Here's the confusion, and it's definitions. There is NO static text
tool in Hypercard. There IS a Paint Text tool in HC, so I assume
that is what you mean.
There is a full set of paint tools in Rev, too, except for Paint Text
(click the disclosure triangle at the bottom of the pallette).
at the speed of thought
could be also documents updated at the speed of thought ..
Yes I know Rev is not open source...but..
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record production and surround mixing
unusual
Not compelling? Hey I know what you mean - years ago (1990?) I
attempted to hook up hypercard with ODBC and a Butler server...all on
macs. It was slow and horrible and was utterly unreliable. Certainly
I would expect problems if you use ODBC; That was then.
But NOW I've found that rev SCREAMS
and we assume Mr. X is referring to his nitrous in a PERFORMANCE CAR
setting and not the Grateful Dead sense.
sqb
ciao!
Xav
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put quotes around true or false ...perhaps
Ok I tried this two diffrent ways for the don't wrap property. From
what I read the don't wrap property is be default set to false. When I
try it out in my multiline field it does not do wrap it just keeps
going on the same line. I also tried this but
There's a book out there about how to 'hack' and use google searches
from your applications with the new API. 101 Google hacks or
something like that.
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/googlehks/
I'd like to be able to search the web for the smallest page that includes
all of a given set of
I've found that when saving bulk fields in this way - that a good
technique to save and be able to recover all of this data is to first
convert all returns in each field to some otherwise normally unused
character. I use VT - vertical tab (ascii 11 decimal) as a return
replacement, following
Mister X! Tell us more about the Var Chk'r - is this something you
wrote? Can't find it in the IDE...
thanks
stephen
i like to work without variable checking at first.
Before release, I launch the Var Chk'r... Somehow, it makes
Rev scripts more solid due to checks written for
level 2 errors...
Hi, X
Do you mean the Variable *Watcher* that's part of the debug system?
I can't find anything called Variable *Checker* anywhere in the IDE.
sqb
not at all. Although I've written a couple tools to help that.
I was refering to the built-in explicit var[iable] checker... ;)
It's a great feature to
AHA! This solves something that's been driving me crazy for weeks.
I would do a quick script for something and find that I'd always get
errors if I didn't declare all variables, including locals!!! The
docs say you don't *have* to declare locals
That 'variable checking' thing was enabled
Mr. X, although I'm fascinated by your research and coding I find
your naming of your framework XOS somewhat misleading and strange,
since you have clearly described it as a framework and not an
Operating System.
I know how naming things go. I've called a project something else for
ages and
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unusual techno inventions
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Uh oh, Noobs's at the 'frustration phase' with a taste of righteous
indignation just preceding the 'aha' phase.
Don't give up. It's not that hard, really. Remember what Dan said
when he talked bout the DEPTH of this platform -- 10x the features of
hypercard.
There are a lot of properties to
Omnis?? Geesh that thing was a monster. Thousands of pages of boring
and hard to read documentation, and thousands of little files. My
experience with it was that it was a nightmare, hard to learn, hard
to get off the ground. I couldn't make any sense of it - it just
didn't speak to me...I
Oak, have you considered using an ISP-based version of MySQL?
Many providers today offer MySQL, shell access, FTP, huge email
account limits, php, perl, python, linux and an easy to configure
control panel. I've set up and maintained servers and the idea sounds
neat - hosting your on machine,
And correct me if I'm wrong, Richard, but isn't your office fairly
near the old LA Train station near Chinatown? Pretty damn convenient.
ALMOST like Europe... (I wish...)
sqb
The one thing to remember about travelling on the Coast Starlight is
that it's notoriously late. Passengers are
Actually, I found it the other day in my Rev
Folder---components---assistants folder - it's called
RevAnimation.rev...
And now they don't even have that (the Animation Builder, that is)...
Judy
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If the thing your are building is web-enabled, you might consider
Chipp's ALTBROWSER... which imbeds a web browser in you stack... and
I'm sure it must run Flash...
sqb
Hello:
I am beginning to program in revolution, but previously I had had
experience in Flash of Macromedia and I would
And GOLIVE too...
it was actually gone a while ago
Among other things I suppose this is a death knell for SVG
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Trevor, thanks again for your DB library. It is very useful and
motivational.. and example of great coding...
Will the new library be backwards compatible? Should all I have to do
would be to change the lib name in the code?
sqb
incorporation it into libDatabse so it will be easy to add
Dumps! Fantastic!..
I could actually clone my CocoaMySQL client!...
sqb
Most of the other changes will be transparent to you. I now use
binding so that libdb supports binary data with the *b prefix
before a field name in an array. I've added a setting that will run
macToISO and isoToMac
Well I do a lot of web work too, and I assure you that CSS is the
future and the way large and consistent sites can be reasonably done.
What's frustrating is that if a page is constructed in CSS that it is
not easily possible to see what the commands do as you don't see the
results until it's
Because it was added in v2.0 or so...late in the game...
sqb
If HC had a sort command then why were there so many sort externals
floating around?
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I've been up and down with this 'to SQL or not SQL' thing for a
while, fearing long monotonous nights debugging arcane commands and
crashing, etc. which has been my experience with client server
databases used with x-talks in years past. Remember Butler? Holy
smoke, what a crashfest. Not
I'd get a copy of the SQL Pocket Guide, via Oreilly press.
They might even list out the differences at the www.oreilly.com site.
However, to answer the question, I feel MySQL is very adequate, even
robust, for most of the Rev applications I see discussed here. And
with the aforementioned
.
So, is there a character, visible or invisible, that will stand in
place of a space for word-click so I get the whole phrase? Otherwise
I have to start over with the data capture, and rename hard coded
names.
thanks
stephen barncard
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That would be a 'non-breaking' space, right? Excellent. Thanks.
At 9:53 PM +0200 4/26/05, Eric Chatonet wrote:
Hi Stephen,
You could use numToChar(202) (option space with
Mac OS) which is the indivisible space (I
don't know if it is the right word :-)
Le 26 avr. 05, à 21:29, Stephen Barncard
MySQL can do math on columns like you want. Very Fast. No loops in transcript.
Check out the GROUP BY (Aggregate) Functions.
http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/group-by-functions.html
At 8:06 PM -0400 4/26/05, Dennis Brown wrote:
Can anyone think of another way to do this that would be faster
I tried linked text Eric and it worked, but it was ugly visually, -
and I don't like the look of underline links that are not on a web
page either. It takes a bit of scripting to turn off linkcolor and
hilitecolor, and manage the hilites and it didn't seem as elegant.
And when one is using
Dreamhost. $10/month for all goodies. Great dedicated deals too. I
host 15 sites there. Even the 'shared' hosting rocks...
Can anyone recommend a good ISP with 'proper' database hosting (MySQL PHP
etc...)
Regards
Martin McCarrick
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Why would you want to access MySQL through the shell, when it's
available in Rev?
sqb
At 2:47 PM -0500 4/29/05, Paul Salyers wrote:
Dear Rev Programmers
I need a simple small stack that will try and connect to a MySQL db
on a server shell.
If it connects ok I want a message that says Connected
Is there a certain reason you have to use synchronized fields at all?
Won't tabbed fields work better for you, or are you doing a lot of
stuff with column math?
sqb
At 4:02 PM -0700 4/30/05, Roger Guay wrote:
I have 6 list fields side-by-side each with the same number of
lines, with
The employer might get a better deal and more offers if the
programmer doesn't have to travel to Worchester, Wooster, wherever.
At 11:19 AM -0400 5/1/05, Thomas McGrath III wrote:
Hello Rever's,
OT:
A friend of mine is looking for an MS SQL 'expert' that is willing
to travel to Wooster, Ohio
I'm having a problem with a list field with autohilite getting
click-selected BEHIND a standard answer dialog. It seems to be
happening within the auto-select mechanism and I haven't found the
message that is sent.
Anyone else seen this - and is there a way to fix this outside of
making my
In the process of trying to make an answer dialog (plan b), I ran
across another problem. When opening a new window/sub-stack, does
this automatically 'stop using' other stacks? When I closed this new
sub-stack, somehow the connection to a library was stopped. Do I have
to always define the
I have just built my first standalone for Windows. I've previously
only tried to develop for Macs, but I thought I would give it a try.
My standalone utilizes Trevor's libdatabase and revDB. I have a
Wintel machine to test with but I'm not sure what to do with the dll
files... I was hoping
the externals property of the stack; try
placing them (for example) in an externals folder in the same
folder as the app, and if that doesn't work, try placing them in the
same folder as the app itself.
On May 3, 2005, at 4:02 AM, Stephen Barncard wrote:
I have just built my first standalone for Windows
Actually there was always a procedure...'Rebuild the Desktop' that
fixed file associations. There is a four finger salutation of some
kind done when a volume was mounted that got the Rebuild the
Desktop? dialog. Also the original TechTool would delete the desktop
file (forcing a rebuild) and
amen! I used to take Tom Pittman's advice for Compilit and use his
notation for integers - % and they screamed with speed... and the old
Hyperbasic XCMD generator had great array capabilities. I don't mind
typing variables optionally if it speeds up things.
sqb
At 7:30 PM -0400 5/4/05, Dennis
It's DAN Shafer, not DON. And he wrote a great Hypercard Book series,
too back 'in the day'.
At 9:47 PM +0100 5/5/05, John Ridge wrote:
Don Shafer's book is not a manual. OK - I'm talking only about Vol 1, but
even when the other two are available it still won't be a Handbook as Danny
Goodman's
Nothing to fix, except old habits. Rev files don't usually launch Rev
from a browser - stock configured web servers think they're text.
put go URL and that URL into the message box inside REV - and it
loads the stack off the net into memory. You can then run, save, or
clear from memory. This
CHECK OUT Dragon Burn for Mac (they also make NTI CD DVD - Maker 7
for PC...-I never used it).
From their site: Supports virtually all popular image file formats:
.bin, .cue, .cdr, .dmg, .iso, and .ncd..
As I remember, the .iso image I created by DB in Mac was viewable on a pc.
Good software.
Great out of the box solution. Excellent! This is exactly the Rev
method - there's a lot of ways to get the job done
At 9:55 AM -0700 5/8/05, Roger Guay wrote:
Sorry for the confusion, I did want a wider user's reply text field.
I am asking the user to edit text entries that have as many
Peter, I agree with you about the weirdness of the table fields.
There seems to be 'data behind data' and it's frustrating to work
with. One can set one cell at a time, but how do we load all the
cells at once? Putting a tab/return delimited text string in there
goes into another dimension.
I obviously posted too soon without reading the most recent posts..
Eric:
It's starting to look like the mysterious table fields work like
'visible arrays'. Am I getting warm? If so, this could be very cool.
At 7:32 PM +0200 5/10/05, Eric Chatonet wrote:
Hi Peter,
You are right and, for
I think I'll lean to the future. I like this table-array thing.
Obviously there are MANY undocumented properties regarding table
fields and others, and we don't have a scorecard... yet. Thanks,
Eric, for checking into this.
At 2:02 PM -0400 5/10/05, Lynch, Jonathan wrote:
You can also create a
I don't know if would be correct to call it flaky as much as
undocumented. It might work incredibly well. It might work perfectly
if we knew how to do it right. So I'll wait for Eric's demo stack.
At 9:12 PM +0100 5/10/05, Peter Reid wrote:
Hi All
Thanks for all the responses to this.
Looking
... and furthermore, I've never poked around in the IDE and support stacks.
I would imagine all those cRevtable calls are there for the
spelunkingand the curious. I see those messages in the watcher.
sqb
At 10:29 PM +0200 5/10/05, jbv wrote:
I do agree with Stephen.
Table fields can be used
I just checked out the latest pre-conference stack. Excellent.
This is a really good thing! Bit by bit, the DETAILED tutorial about
Rev and Transcript and its use is evolving through this series of
scripting conferences. I've been x-scripting since 1987 but I still
find a few tips and syntax
At 10:42 AM -0500 5/11/05, J. Landman Gay wrote:
Some time later, I received a rejection notice, saying that AOL
could not release my language-checking utility because it violated
the Terms of Service. My file had bad words in it.
Probably because they ran the file through your file-checker!
The
One thing you should know is that Stuffit and most data compression
will not save you any size with audio. There are special lossless
compression techniques for audio, but they are proprietary and
time-consuming, and the best you could do would be 2:1 with those.
Lemper-Ziv/ RLE encoding of
Frank, I rarely disagree with you , but MP3 and AAC are NOT and will
never be Better than a raw WAV file, audio wise. Uncompressed
Broadcast WAV files are the standard of the audio industry, supported
by every DAW and platform, and supports all bitrates up to 192k.
The others, as far as good
I can't answer that, Richard, but Sarah's Demo Stack, Trevor DeVore's
library and demo stack spoke volumes to me
At 6:44 PM -0700 5/13/05, Richard Gaskin wrote:
Where's the overview introducing basic concepts of using databases with Rev?
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Good Enough.. ... sigh...
sqb - a 40 year professional audio veteran.
-- the latest Mix magazine is just about that... Who cares about
quality?..and used those very words... good enough..
At 8:24 AM -0400 5/14/05, Frank D. Engel, Jr. wrote:
So it depends on the intended usage of the files once
Mark, I ftp WAV files all the time no stuffing needed. The key is
'no resource forks'. If you're on a Mac, the fastest FTP client is
Interarchy, the most convenient with the best features is Transit.
sqb
At 3:11 PM +0100 5/14/05, Mark Smith wrote:
These lossy formats aren't appropriate in
Broadcast WAV has been the Digidesign recommended and default format
for Pro Tools for over 4 years. There's even a checkbox for 'force
cross-platform Wave'.
They support sd2, but only for backward compatibility.
If the files are used in video post production, WAV is a requirement.
sd2 was a
yep... and more 'billable time' if that's the case! Not a bad thing.
At 5:23 PM +0100 5/14/05, Mark Smith wrote:
requirementsHe's paying the bills, so I have to go with it:(
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AGAIN, gentlemen, I say, why bother with running (and worrying about)
your own server and licensing when there are good ISP's out there
that INCLUDE MYSQL along with one's account, like PHP, python, perl,
shell, etc.
I can have just about as many MYSQL databases as I'd ever want with
my
Ruslan,
Understood. That is a perfect use for Valentina or Chipp's product -
as an imbedded database. I wasn't questioning that.
But many others like myself are making custom front ends that use a
database to share information among users on a network, or just a
great way to deal with data,
(ducking for cover)
boom. Socko. WHam!! Zap! (cymbal crash)
Let the battle of the DBs begin!! What a great time we live in. Viva la list.
sqb
At 1:36 AM +0300 5/16/05, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote:
B) size of DVD is 4.7 GB, so I want to see how cool SQL Lite will be on db
of such size :-))
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and there there was ... localTalk, the wiring protocol over special
cables, then telephone wire.
And wasn't the first Apple network protocol called AppleTalk? Or am
I getting fuzzy here?
I was really confused at first when I read about Wildcard and Hypertalk.
[lol]
sqb
At 2:23 PM -0700
I know there's some kind of trick here to do this;
I have an unlocked, editable field with text. I select a portion of
the text, then option click on it for a popup that has a few options
to select from to do something to the text, like uppercase,
lowercase, etc.
This changing works with a
Mister X, Eric, thanks for your help - Eric is right, your code won't
work on MacOS. There are forces at work here fighting me with some
'automatic' behavior in regard to the selection in a field. One thing
it's trying to do is to select a single word, then it hangs on to
that selection.
My
Thanks, Jan. I forgot that often some checkboxes for properties are
left out of the IDE... and the button's traversalOn was one of them.
At 2:42 AM -0700 5/21/05, Jan Schenkel wrote:
Hi Stephen,
The following trick works on both Win and Mac: set the
traversalOn of the popup menu button to
I'll take it!! I'll bring a long cat 5 cable and a hub for my friends.
ha ha
My guess is the T1 is for the whole convention center, shared. By the
time it gets to the likes of us, we'll probably need the extra
bandwidth. A 'T1' can mean a lot of different things - you can have
part of a T1
Good LORD! This Transcript thing is truly DEEP. Lots of nooks and
crannies. I never heard that one! Cool.
At 8:55 PM +0200 5/21/05, Klaus Major wrote:
called is among the TOKENS of make sure the closeField is called,
as follows:
= TRUE
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all the valid URLS inside the frame. Then I would check each URL for
size, and pick the largest file, or the number of lines. That will be
where the main content is.
At 2:10 PM +0200 5/24/05, Eric Chatonet wrote:
You are
but... EVERY platform has limits...eventually - memory, speed. How
can any tool be 'infinite'?? Better, bigger, faster, perhaps, but ...
infinite? Aren't you instead trying to craft tools that are...
scaleable?
We're getting into theoretical physics, cosmology here whoa...
Doesn't the
Tom,
That post you mention didn't seem to make it to this 'How To' list.
sqb
At 10:15 AM -0400 5/27/05, Thomas McCarthy wrote:
It's late and I have to get my beauty rest, but I'll try to post a
sample project tomorrow. If you can't wait, just look at the post I
made yesterday about ogg
I have been looking for a list of standardized RGB color names to use
in REV for a while. Today I stumbled on a Javascript FAQ site and
came across a nice list of names. So I tried a few of these in REV
(Mac OSX).
http://www.javascripter.net/faq/colornam.htm#top
Wow.. all the ones I tried
Right, I didn't know about that whole menu area... nice... but I was
looking for a simple text list with the hex codes, or a property that
returned a list..and the color table displays names one by one...
thanks though..
sqb
At 1:15 PM -0400 5/27/05, Thomas McGrath III wrote:
Stephen,
If
Ben, it doesn't get better than this product and this group. Fix
yourself a beer, and hang out here awhile, learn a few things and
you'll be creating great apps in no time...
Firing in the dark? No, I don't think so, nobody can know
everything.. we use Rev because we can accomplish what we
thanks Thomas!!
sqb
At 10:08 PM -0400 5/27/05, Thomas McGrath III wrote:
I opened the color stack and got a list of the color names. I am
sure the RGB script and hex script is in the stack script of the
color names stack.
FWIW here is the list of names:
AliceBlue
AntiqueWhite
OK! I understand now...
At 9:48 AM +0200 5/28/05, Eric Chatonet wrote:
The uColors property returns a list of the color names followed by
the rgb values.
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Yes, Eric I know and use your plugin (brilliant), but it didn't seem
to offer what I was looking for, namely a simple text list of their
names with the #HEX codes... and anyway, all I was noting for the
list is that it was standardized.
At 9:01 AM +0200 5/28/05, Eric Chatonet wrote:
Dear
These folks at CHUM at BYU came up with some very nice documentation
for rev. Seems to be very up to date! Has anyone else seen this? They
even made up a special domain for their Rev stuff. I see a lotta love
here. I'm bookmarking this. yet another resource...
they also have a link to Chipp's
Hey if a device runs Windows, then it runs windows...
If the pocketPC doesn't run normal windows standards, what good is it?
sqb
At 5:55 PM -0400 5/30/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
my opinion
try something along those lines...for a pocketPC running windows
Ben
Please ignore this... I was on the wrong train of thought...
At 12:05 AM -0700 5/31/05, Stephen Barncard wrote:
Hey if a device runs Windows, then it runs windows...
If the pocketPC doesn't run normal windows standards, what good is it?
sqb
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My favorite webspace provider, Dreamhost, has just started to offer
PHP 5 and mySQL 4.1 with all their accounts. Thought you'd like to
know.
sqb
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This software install did a nasty thing.
the version of the Scripter's scrapbook I had was offered for FREE,
as are most of the programming aids mentioned on the list.
This 'upgrade' is actually a 'Trial VERSION', and I unknowingly
overwrote the version 4 with this install. This was never
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