RE: [OT]Terrific intro to JSF

2005-08-10 Thread Daniel Perry
Interesting idea. Let's do a bit of mental exploration of what actually happens to see how practical it is. When does a Struts custom tag actually execute? Only when the page is being rendered, as the various HTML elements get produced. Now, when does (server side) validation need to

RE: [OT]Terrific intro to JSF

2005-08-10 Thread Pilgrim, Peter
-Original Message- From: C.F. Scheidecker Antunes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ==== Well. It seems that all articles were written already. http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/views/java/libraryview.jsp?search_by=nonbelievers: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all: ==== I

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2005-08-10 Thread GRamani
Daniel: Daniel Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 08/10/2005 05:39:49 AM: My reasoning behind all this stuff, is i HATE all these xml config files. Or more accurately, I like xml config files, but I hate moving between X different xml files. It might suit IDEs, but it aint right for humans!

Re: {Spam?} RE: [OT]Terrific intro to JSF

2005-08-10 Thread GRamani
Pilgrim, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 08/10/2005 08:19:39 AM: I was trying to print out the above documents so I could read them on the train last night. I cant believe that IBM Developer does not have a Printer Friendly link for its online stuff. I could be wrong! Exactly!! Their Print

RE: {Spam?} RE: [OT]Terrific intro to JSF

2005-08-10 Thread Daniel Perry
August 2005 14:10 To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: {Spam?} RE: [OT]Terrific intro to JSF Pilgrim, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 08/10/2005 08:19:39 AM: I was trying to print out the above documents so I could read them on the train last night. I cant believe that IBM Developer

Re: [OT]Terrific intro to JSF

2005-08-10 Thread Wendy Smoak
From: Pilgrim, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/views/java/libraryview.jsp?search_by=nonbelievers: I was trying to print out the above documents so I could read them on the train last night. I cant believe that IBM Developer does not have a Printer Friendly link

RE: [OT]Terrific intro to JSF

2005-08-10 Thread GRamani
Sorry this is the link I meant to send: http://www.mail-archive.com/user@xdoclet.codehaus.org/msg00029.html Geeta Daniel: Daniel Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 08/10/2005 05:39:49 AM: My reasoning behind all this stuff, is i HATE all these xml config files. Or more accurately,

RE: [OT]Terrific intro to JSF

2005-08-10 Thread Pilgrim, Peter
-Original Message- From: Wendy Smoak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ==== From: Pilgrim, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/views/java/libraryview.jsp?search_by=nonbelievers: I was trying to print out the above documents so I could read them on

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2005-08-10 Thread GRamani
That's how I tried to print and I got yukky results... (But I'm using Firefox maybe I gotta use IE or something..?) Geeta Wendy Smoak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 08/10/2005 09:23:29 AM: From: Pilgrim, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: {Spam?} Re: [OT]Terrific intro to JSF

2005-08-10 Thread Pilgrim, Peter
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ==== That's how I tried to print and I got yukky results... (But I'm using Firefox maybe I gotta use IE or something..?) Geeta I tried Firefox, then attempt Internet Explorer same bad results. Just

Re: [OT]Terrific intro to JSF

2005-08-10 Thread GRamani
Damn. Wish *I* had thought of saying just bloody awful infuriating nonsense in some of the project meetings I've sat in in the past..;)) Geeta Pilgrim, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 08/10/2005 09:42:05 AM: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [OT]Terrific intro to JSF

2005-08-10 Thread Pilgrim, Peter
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ==== Damn. Wish *I* had thought of saying just bloody awful infuriating nonsense in some of the project meetings I've sat in in the past..;)) Geeta Pilgrim, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 08/10/2005

RE: [OT]Terrific intro to JSF

2005-08-10 Thread Marco Mistroni
Hello, I got it printed in landscape Awful, but at least all words are there :) Good luck Regards marco -Original Message- From: Pilgrim, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 August 2005 16:40 To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: [OT]Terrific intro to JSF

Re: [OT]Terrific intro to JSF

2005-08-10 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 8/10/05, Pilgrim, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had another go at printing just the first page. Try 70% scale. It worked for me, which gets me a main text with a font size of, I think, about 7.5 - 8.0 points, right on the limit for stationary reading, but impossible to read on a

Re: [OT]Terrific intro to JSF

2005-08-10 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 8/10/05, Daniel Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My reasoning behind all this stuff, is i HATE all these xml config files. Or more accurately, I like xml config files, but I hate moving between X different xml files. It might suit IDEs, but it aint right for humans! You've got a jsp page

Re: [OT]Terrific intro to JSF

2005-08-10 Thread Laurie Harper
Craig McClanahan wrote: For validations, using one configuration file versus two isn't really different in terms of functionality being supported -- and in one respect (using different validation rules with the same form under different circumstances) it might actually reduce flexibility. Some

RE: [OT]Terrific intro to JSF

2005-08-09 Thread Daniel Perry
-Original Message- From: Craig McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PS: It's pretty straightforward to build turbo versions of the Struts HTML tags that have many of the same features described above. But that doesn't begin to touch the behavior at input time, where the component

Re: [OT]Terrific intro to JSF

2005-08-09 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 8/9/05, Daniel Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Craig McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PS: It's pretty straightforward to build turbo versions of the Struts HTML tags that have many of the same features described above. But that doesn't begin to

Re: [OT]Terrific intro to JSF

2005-08-09 Thread C.F. Scheidecker Antunes
Well. It seems that all articles were written already. http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/views/java/libraryview.jsp?search_by=nonbelievers: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all: i know it isn't Friday yet.. ;) but .. in case you have been looking for a nice and clear introduction to JSF,

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2005-08-09 Thread GRamani
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Re: [OT]Terrific intro to JSF

2005-08-09 Thread Laurie Harper
Craig McClanahan wrote: On 8/9/05, Daniel Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Craig McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PS: It's pretty straightforward to build turbo versions of the Struts HTML tags that have many of the same features described above. But that

Re: [OT]Terrific intro to JSF

2005-08-09 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 8/9/05, Laurie Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Craig McClanahan wrote: On 8/9/05, Daniel Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Craig McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PS: It's pretty straightforward to build turbo versions of the Struts HTML tags that have

Re: [OT]Terrific intro to JSF

2005-08-08 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
That is a good article, thanks for pointing it out Geeta! Ironically, I remember very well, that calculator example is the exact same one I saw more than two years ago at a Java user's group meeting... it must get the point across well :) I remember they showed all sorts of state diagrams

Re: [OT]Terrific intro to JSF

2005-08-08 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 8/8/05, Frank W. Zammetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is a good article, thanks for pointing it out Geeta! Ironically, I remember very well, that calculator example is the exact same one I saw more than two years ago at a Java user's group meeting... it must get the point across well :)