On 6/28/05, Brad Rhoads [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nitesh wrote:
You are probably looking for...
logic:equal name=orderObj property=statusCode value=%=
OrderObj.getWhatever() %
Unfortunately, that gives:
cannot find symbol
symbol : method getOrderStatus()
location: class
On 6/28/05, Dave Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mick Knutson wrote:
Here is my stack:
As you can see, the values are there, but it just is not picking them
up.
Also, here is what I have in the jsp:
bean:define id=test1 name=consumerValidatorForm
property=activity.lastPinChangeDate/
Hi All ,
I write web application using Struts framewok . Model layer is ok .
But in view layer , although I almost use taglib . I feel that it is not
flexible .
If after that we want to change template (html), so , we have to find and
edit each code that
we include value by taglibs.
In
Hello ! I'd like to use the pathname property of my plugin configuration in my
page. How can I do this with bean:define ?
plug-in
className=net.gide.webapp.results.memory.MemoryResultsDatabasePlugIn
set-property property=pathname value=/WEB-INF/results-database/
/plug-in
Thanks
Rémi
Create a private property with a Getter and Setter in your plugin, and the
wonders, nay mysteries, of Struts will ensure that it gets populated for
your use.
Christopher Marsh-Bourdon
www.marsh-bourdon.com
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minhnguyet wrote:
Hi All ,
I write web application using Struts framewok . Model layer is ok .
But in view layer , although I almost use taglib . I feel that it is not
flexible .
If after that we want to change template (html), so , we have to find and
edit each code that
we include
Probably you should try using the validator framework for validation.
you could avoid using the custom form in case you just use it for
validation.
You could add in your validations into the validation-rules and use it.
Make sure your form has sesion scope.
That apart, Im not sure why you
Hello,
Does anybody knows if there is some problem in using single Action class
to serve more Service ?
XMoon load service automatically from xml but the Action class is the same.
ex:
action path=/console type=org.xmoon.GenericStrutsAction
forward name=default path=/pages/console.jsp/
So long as the Action class is performing a truly generic function then I see no problem with this. Additionally, the name of the Action should reflect the function that is being performed. For example, if the action is forwarding a bean embedded in the form to a web service, the Action should
Sounds as if you are tightly coupling business layer to presentation
I would recommend de-coupling your presentation layer from Business Entity
possibly using Business Delegate Architecture..take a look at
http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/java/library/j-ejb1022.html
If you are seeking an
Hello!
Jeff Beal wrote:
...
Have you considered locale-specific CSS files to give
a different presentation to the same JSP page?
...
I have no idea of this. Can you, please, comment?
Yaroslav Novytskyy.
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I sent a couple of additional comments on this to Frank; I guess I
should have paid more attention so they made it to the list, too. I
won't belabor the points too much, but if you're interested in this
question, section 17.13.2 Successful Controls
following your example:
action path=/PostWebServiceAction type=org.xmoon.GenericStrutsAction
forward name=default path=.../
/action
PostWebServiceAction.xml
?xml version=1.0 encoding=ISO-8859-1?
service
task
code language=beanshell
// business logic
This is just an idea, depending on what sort of differences you have
on your JSP pages, it may or not work. As a trite and unrealistic
example, let's say that your design team has told you that blue text
will work better for your English-speaking audience, but purple text
will work better for
What about using a custom RequestProcessor? It would be a huge hack,
but you could map *everything* to struts action (map /* to struts
action) and then check inside the request processor if it's a valid
struts action, and if not, forward appropriately. Although the
appropriately part is a bit of a
Hi,
I have written an ExceptionHandler below and error.jsp page below but
the error page is not displaying the error. Can anyone see why please?
Thanks
Dave.
import javax.servlet.ServletException;
import javax.servlet.http.HttpServletRequest;
import javax.servlet.http.HttpServletResponse;
I would name the actual action based on the functionallity:
action path=/postRequest1 type=org.moon.PostWebServiceAction name=formTest1
forward name=default path=test1.jsp/
/action
action path=/postRequest2 type=org.moon.PostWebServiceAction name=formTest2
forward name=default path=test2.jsp/
i use org.xmoon.GenericStrutsAction to serve every service, so the name
that identify my service is in path attribute and not in type attribute.
I create one xml instead of create one java class for every service.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would name the actual action based on the
Sun's Creator Studio rulez the inexpensive Java IDE world; JetBrain's IDEA
rulez the $300+ IDEs. Eclipse isn't worth a shit.
But REAL programmers prefer ed or vi.
~mark
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To: Struts
Not exactly. test1 actually is a pojo. Then there is a value in there called
lastPinChangeDate or getLastPinChangeDate().
And nothing I have tried will print that value out at all.
Kjersti Berg wrote:
On 6/28/05, Dave Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mick Knutson wrote:
Here is my stack:
Hi,
I can't get struts 1.2.7 to highlight all the error fields on my form - only
the first error field is highlighted. Is this a known bug, or am I doing
something wrong?
Here is a simplified extract of my code:
ActionForm validation:
ActionErrors errors = new ActionErrors();
Hi all,
Maybe I ask too much but I'm just a newbie in Struts and nobody in my
department can help me :(
This is my situation: I have an input.jsp page to let users enter data and
click 'Save'. There's another function that the data is fetched from the
database and users can modify them and
Some of us don't like any of them!
http://uab.blogspot.com/2005/06/ides-we-dont-need-no-stinking-ides.html
Simon
On 6/29/05, Mark Galbreath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sun's Creator Studio rulez the inexpensive Java IDE world; JetBrain's IDEA
rulez the $300+ IDEs. Eclipse isn't worth a shit.
It's pretty simple; you just need to populate the form bean and put it
into request/session scope prior to forwarding to your jsp when in edit
mode. You'll also need a hidden variable in your form to flag whether
you're in edit or add mode, so your backend does the appropriate DB
action.
The
On 6/29/05, Scott Piker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's pretty simple; you just need to populate the form bean and put it
into request/session scope prior to forwarding to your jsp when in edit
mode. You'll also need a hidden variable in your form to flag whether
you're in edit or add mode, so
Hello all!
I have a problem with struts and sessions, perhaps someone has an idea:
My web.xml contains the following welcome file list:
welcome-file-list
welcome-fileindex.jsp/welcome-file
/welcome-file-list
My index.jsp only forwards like this:
%@ taglib uri=/WEB-INF/struts-logic.tld
Hello again
As Michael suggested I put a session=false in the page directive in my
index.jsp like this
%@ taglib uri=/WEB-INF/struts-logic.tld prefix=logic %
%@ page session=false %
html
body
logic:forward name=cookiecheck/
/body
/html
but the problem still is there. my session is
As Michael alluded to in his response, a session will be created when
the user hits index.jsp unless you explicitly specify session=false in
the page directive. (See
http://java.sun.com/products/jsp/syntax/2.0/syntaxref2010.html#15653)
That's probably what's going on here.
- Scott
Is it possible that you have a servlet filter set up which creates a
session? Possibly one that checks if the user is logged in?
-ed
On 6/29/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello again
As Michael suggested I put a session=false in the page directive in my
index.jsp like this
I read the Java Serialization spec and don't understand the line about
the no-arg constructor.
Since different tiers (web vs bisiness) as well as HttpSession
migration often uses serialization to pass objects through the wire,
it seems important.
Here is the line from the spec:
A Serializable
No, there is no filter or something else, only the things I included
in my first mail (besides the login.jsp and home.jsp to which the
success and failure forwards point to)
Peter
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That gets very messy for static content; you either end up having to serve
it all yourself instead of letting Tomcat do so, returning a 302 pointing
to a different webapp, or putting Apache in front of Tomcat to 'catch'
requests for static content and serve them without calling Tomcat...
L.
What does your taglib directive look like? Where is the TLD file withing
the webapp?
Richard Reyes wrote:
Hi All,
I have a working struts webapp ( working in tomcat 5 ), now i need to
deploy this app to a sunone web server 6.1.
Upon copying the whole webapp folder to the new instance I have
Heh, 'capabile'? I'd agree with that in maven's case... ;-)
Simon Chappell wrote:
Some of us don't like any of them!
http://uab.blogspot.com/2005/06/ides-we-dont-need-no-stinking-ides.html
Simon
On 6/29/05, Mark Galbreath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sun's Creator Studio rulez the inexpensive
http://uab.blogspot.com/2005/06/ides-we-dont-need-no-stinking-
ides.html
It is the most stupid blog I have ever seen. Go back to the cave
where you belong to.
I think the article was meant to be taken with a grain of salt.
- Dave
Maybe IDEs are helpful, but if you can't do your programming in a
straight text editor, you shouldn't be programming at all. The
biggest problem with programmers today is that they don't actually
know how to program. They know how to click some buttons and
auto-generate some code (mostly awful
Yaakov Chaikin wrote:
Here is the line from the spec:
A Serializable class must do the following:
.
Have access to the no-arg constructor of its first non-serializable superclass
What does this mean and why do you need this requirement? But it does
It means that if you have an
Check your struts-config.xml file. ValidatorPlugin has a property,
stopOnFirstError. Make sure that is set correctly.
struts-config
... snip...
plug-in className=org.apache.struts.validator.ValidatorPlugIn
set-property property=pathnames
Maybe IDEs are helpful,
It is not Maybe that IDEs are useful. It is that they are definiately
useful.
but if you can't do your programming in a
straight text editor, you shouldn't be programming at all.
When you programm in a text editor, you may very likely to have snytax errors.
The
On 6/29/05, Yan Hu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maybe IDEs are helpful,
It is not Maybe that IDEs are useful. It is that they are definiately
useful.
Under certain circumstances they are useful. I am fully of the opinion
that no beginner should ever be allowed to use an IDE. IDEs are an
Yan Hu wrote:
Why 85% of the Java developers use Eclipse?
Because Java programmers are cheap bastards?
You should be thankful since Eclipse is such a good IDE and it is free.
Pah. Any programmer's editor that doesn't have macros...
You could do a lot
more(control) using assembly than
I am using WSAD 5.1.2.
I have the following code to insert a checkBox for a
Display Tag table..
display:table defaultsort=3 class=
name=partItems id=partItem
display:column titleKey={*}
html:multibox name=partDetailForm
property=intarray
Hi all,
I have a jsp which shows rows of data. Each row is preceded by a checkbox. i
can check the boxes and hit a delete button and it is supposed to delete the
selected rows. In my page i have:
logic:iterate id=aBean name=myForm property=allRecords
tr
class=%RecordCounter++;
bgcolor =
Most autogenerated code is less programmer friendly than it could
be, it's purpose being to be easily created rather than read and
maintained.
I call throwing out the baby with the bathwater. The unreadable code
that is being spoken of, I presume, is basically UI stuff. IMO, UI
code has a
Hey, Simon! Good to see you are still kickin'
I see the morons around this list are as gullible to my posts as ever
muhahahaha
~mark (a REAL programmer)
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From: Simon Chappell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 2:49 PM
To: Struts Users
Does it spell-check for you, too? No wonder you need an IDE
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From: Durham David R Jr Ctr 805 CSPTS/SCE
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 3:43 PM
As an example, when I want to right a debug statement, I simply type:
...
How can i set or specified another bundled file when
using common-validator to output message in javascript
(client side validations) ??
Yahoo! Sports
Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football
On 6/29/05, Durham David R Jr Ctr 805 CSPTS/SCE
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Most autogenerated code is less programmer friendly than it could
be, it's purpose being to be easily created rather than read and
maintained.
I call throwing out the baby with the bathwater. The unreadable code
Craig? Is that old fart still around? I thought he was deeply involved in JSF
now.
;-)
~mark
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From: Durham David R Jr Ctr 805 CSPTS/SCE
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Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 3:51 PM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: [OT] RE: Is there any Jsp
In a RAID 1 (mirrored) configuration, if I pull the power cable out from
one of the disks, will my system stay up? Real world experience
preferred to marketing claims.
Sorry, this is so OT, but since everyone's enamored with the text editor
vs. IDE threads that happen every two weeks here, I
I have noticed over the years that those who are the most adamant about the
virtues of IDEs are the worst programmers...and think emacs is a kid's meal
from McDonalds.
~mark
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From: Yan Hu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 1:33 PM
To: Struts
I use Map backed ActionForm in which I generate the controls(text, select)
dynamically from a map and all the properties are collected in a map in the
form.
I can add server side validation on these properties. I did not find a way to
generate dynamically client side validation. The validation I
I stick to my assertion that it is not auto-generated. It might
be inserted by the IDE, but it is not written by the IDE.
Maybe we are splitting the auto-generated hair, but I'll concede the
point. There probably is some level of code generation complexity that
distinguishes between simple
I don't know whether WSAD 5.1.2 is a JSP 2.0 container. If it is not, then
you'll need to use the Struts-EL taglib. If it is a JSP 2.0 container, then
you'll need to make sure that your web.xml is using the Servlet 2.4 schema.
From: Phani [mailto:[EMAIL
Yan,
Us old guys still know a quiche-eater like you when we see one:
http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/real.programmers.html
http://www.multicians.org/thvv/realprogs.html
If you can't debug with Lint, get the hell off the keyboard.
~mark
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From: Mark Galbreath
Sent:
I've noticed over the years that people who start IDE threads are
unappreciated.
I've also noticed that programmers who talk about how other programmers are
the worst, are the worst programmers. Real programmers are too busy fixing
the worst programmers to complain.
BAL
From: Mark
I've noticed over the years that people who start IDE threads
are unappreciated.
I've also noticed that programmers who talk about how other
programmers are the worst, are the worst programmers. Real
programmers are too busy fixing the worst programmers to
complain.
How exactly do you
Don't forget this one:
http://thc.org/root/phun/unmaintain.html
My personal favorite: Creative Miss-spelling!
Long live VI!!!
Larry
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Brian Lee wrote:
I've also noticed that programmers who talk about how other
programmers are the worst, are the worst programmers. Real programmers
are too busy fixing the worst programmers to complain.
No no, we must take complain-breaks in order to keep from pulling our
own heads off.
Durham David R Jr Ctr 805 CSPTS/SCE wrote:
How exactly do you fix a worst programmer? Take away their keyboard?
Actually, with all this auto-generation stuff, you'll have to take their
mouse too.
Monochrome 80x25 ADM31A or Hazeltine 1510 w/ 9600 baud serial link.
Dave
Hi Mark:
Tell Craig to stop pouring money into Sun's studio creator. If you don't know
not to call
peoplemorons, get the heck off the list. Most morons think the majorty are
morons..
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Yan,
Us old guys still know a quiche-eater like you when we see
Yan Hu wrote:
Most morons think the majorty are morons..
And we're right.
Dave Hey! You tricked me! Newton
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On 6/29/05, Karr, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't know whether WSAD 5.1.2 is a JSP 2.0 container. If it is not, then
you'll need to use the Struts-EL taglib. If it is a JSP 2.0 container, then
you'll need to make sure that your web.xml is using the Servlet 2.4 schema.
For
Hahahha. Then we would be all morons. And so there will be no morons. Anyways,
I perhaps should
not have used that tone. After all, it is all about technologies not
flamewars.And it is
getting a bit too personl which is not right. I will stop first... And
apologize to those
that might
1. Add the EL tag library descriptor to your web.xml.
taglib
taglib-uri/tags/struts-html-el/taglib-uri
taglib-location/WEB-INF/struts-html-el.tld/taglib-location
/taglib
2. Include the required jar files in WEB-INF/lib:
struts-el.jar, standard.jar
3. Import the tag library in your jsp
Hi guys,
I think this lovely discussion is losing focus.
Remember there have been great programmers and programs before any of us was
born.
Do you think the guys creating e. g. Unix had Emacs or an IDE
?
And we (well, some of us) today are great programmers using better tools.
It is the
If it is so..
why is my expression not getting evaluated...
${partItem.intproperty}
--- Rahul Akolkar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 6/29/05, Karr, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't know whether WSAD 5.1.2 is a JSP 2.0
container. If it is not, then you'll need to use
the Struts-EL
Take a look at some code generated by lex or yacc and be prepared for
an eye-opening! :-)
On 6/29/05, Durham David R Jr Ctr 805 CSPTS/SCE
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I stick to my assertion that it is not auto-generated. It might
be inserted by the IDE, but it is not written by the IDE.
Maybe
Never apologise for insulting Mark. Or, at least, I don't. :-)
On 6/29/05, Yan Hu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hahahha. Then we would be all morons. And so there will be no morons.
Anyways, I perhaps should
not have used that tone. After all, it is all about technologies not
flamewars.And
I just asked one of our analysts about this and she said, Don't be silly, it's
ALL about the TOOL! When I asked her what she meant, exactly, she replied,
The bigger the tool, the more room for error. And that's a GOOD thing? I
asked astounded. She assured me that the best programmers she
Hi Yan:
Byte me.
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From: Yan Hu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 4:21 PM
Hi Mark:
Tell Craig to stop pouring money into Sun's studio creator. If you don't know
not to call
peoplemorons, get the heck off the list. Most morons think the majorty
IMO, the IDE bigots are engaged in some sort of Freudian phallic compensation.
I am confident enough to code with vi (it is even smaller than emacs).
So...what does that say about people who use WebSphere Application
Developer or Sun Java Studio Creator 2004Q2?
Think about it...
Larry
On
On 6/29/05, Laurie Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yaakov Chaikin wrote:
Here is the line from the spec:
A Serializable class must do the following:
.
Have access to the no-arg constructor of its first non-serializable
superclass
What does this mean and why do you need
Look at the job market for the server side now. 3 years ago, .Net took only 20%
of the server side
market. Now it is creeping up to 40%. .Net is better or faster than Java?
Nah.. Some .Net zealots
otained some benchmarks on Tiger and .Net1.1 using linPack. Tiger outperformed
.Net. But why is
Simon Chappell wrote:
It's kinda like mud-wrestling with a pig, sooner or later you'll
realise that he's enjoying it.
Best... allegory... EVER.
(although I'm not really sure allegory is the correct term, I think the
point gets across none the less)
--
Frank W. Zammetti
Founder and Chief
I use VS.NET - it is a turd with icing.
Better than just a turd, but still not a brownie.
Larry
On 6/29/05, Yan Hu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Look at the job market for the server side now. 3 years ago, .Net took only
20% of the server side
market. Now it is creeping up to 40%. .Net is
Because when you create an object in java a constructor of each extending
type in the hierarchy is called.
If there is no explicit constructor called (at first line in your
constructor, the default (emptyargs) constructor is called automatically.
Example:
Object - A - B
If you do something like
I use VS.NET - it is a turd with icing.
This is an empty statement without any hard evidence to back it up.
Better than just a turd, but still not a brownie.
The market says the turd is good... So you will have to eat it or lose 40% of
the pie and that
number is still going up. Thanks to
Btw...
Since linux has clearly more then 50% of the server market and solaris and
windows 2003 fights for remaining market i don't see how asp can possibly
have 40% of the cake.
:-)
Leon
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Btw...
Since linux has clearly more then 50% of the server market and solaris and
windows 2003 fights for remaining market i don't see how asp can possibly
have 40% of the cake.
:-)
Leon
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My woman has no complaints
Yours WSAD 5.0 Migrating this week to Rational Application Developer
I know this is a tongue in cheek conversation but IDE's do all the frilly
stuff so that I can get on with designing my application. Refactoring etc is
a big part of my design work as 'he' often
Since linux has clearly more then 50% of the server market
Linux has never had more than 30% of the server market
http://www.alwayson-network.com/comments.php?id=P5013_0_6_0_C
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Lies, bad lies, statistics...
Are we talking about sales or about servers?
Check this out: http://news.netcraft.com/archives/web_server_survey.html
I hardly believe that there are servers running apache on windoz... Or how
do you explain 60% apache?
Most of companies I know do not buy servers
Lies, bad lies, statistics...
Are we talking about sales or about servers?
Check this out: http://news.netcraft.com/archives/web_server_survey.html
I hardly believe that there are servers running apache on windoz... Or how
do you explain 60% apache?
Most of companies I know do not buy servers
If by asking if it is so, you're referring to the question of whether your
container is a JSP 2.0 container, I thought that was answered pretty clearly.
Your container is NOT a JSP 2.0 container, so you'll have to use the Struts-EL
taglib.
I would also qualify a couple of items from the reply
Apache = 69.70%
Microsoft = 20.26%
Sun = 2.85%
Zeus = 0.90%
Total = 93.71% (not sure where the other 6-7% went...)
I suspect a large portion of those apache boxen are running Solaris
and BSD as well as linux, but some shops (here for instance) do run
apache on Winblows. Of course, we have an
Sorry, my mistake, apache is at 69.37% and rising.
Microsoft has 20.54% and stagnating ...
Others are ncsa, sun and even others...
By the way... I think you are kidding, since you original statement:
Look at the job market for the server side now. 3 years ago, .Net took only
20% of the server
Sorry, my mistake, apache is at 69.37% and rising.
Microsoft has 20.54% and stagnating ...
Others are ncsa, sun and even others...
By the way... I think you are kidding, since you original statement:
Look at the job market for the server side now. 3 years ago, .Net took only
20% of the server
I suspect a large portion of those apache boxen are running
Solaris and BSD as well as linux, but some shops (here for
instance) do run apache on Winblows. Of course, we have an
AS/400, too. :-(
I assume you also have a mod_dotnet for running .aspx on your apache? :-)
Regards
Leon
I suspect a large portion of those apache boxen are running
Solaris and BSD as well as linux, but some shops (here for
instance) do run apache on Winblows. Of course, we have an
AS/400, too. :-(
I assume you also have a mod_dotnet for running .aspx on your apache? :-)
Regards
Leon
We will use a WEB application as an example, especially the frond end. We have
2 bums on the
street. We give them 10 dollars per hour to write a simple front end. One uses
Struts or whatever
J2ee MVC frameworks excluding JSF (using Creator). The other has no choice but
VS.NET.
The VS.NET bum
Yan Hu wrote:
If Apache web server takes 60% where did the 40% go? IIS right? I think other
web servers are
almost negoligiable.
I responded to your comment that Linux has never had more than 30% of
the server market by stating my belief that I thought the poster was
referring to web
Yan Hu wrote:
The other has no choice but VS.NET.
Man, bums NEVER get a break.
Need I go on?
We're considering taking up a collection to pay you to not.
Dave
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Nope, we are drinking the Kool-aide here and converting ev-er-y-thing
(Lock, Stock, and Barrel) to M$ technology.
That is what happens when former M$ execs migrate into the real world
and are allowed to make decisions.
Larry
On 6/29/05, Leon Rosenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I suspect a
Even then, most of us will agree that 20.54% for IIS is about 20% to much
2 years make it even worse.. Search on monster for .NET and J2EE
Compare the number of
jobs and do the same thing at www.indeed.com,which aggregate everything from
All big jobsites in
the US. Job numbers for
WTF do you expect with retards writing code?
Fire them, and hire smart people.
Larry
On 6/29/05, Yan Hu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We will use a WEB application as an example, especially the frond end. We
have 2 bums on the
street. We give them 10 dollars per hour to write a simple front
WTF you expect from bums(they are not retards) is cheap labor The means
do not matter too
much. Only the end results matter
--- Larry Meadors [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
WTF do you expect with retards writing code?
Fire them, and hire smart people.
Larry
On 6/29/05, Yan Hu
Cool site.
Runs Java using Apache on Linux , FWIW.
Larry
On 6/29/05, Yan Hu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Even then, most of us will agree that 20.54% for IIS is about 20% to much
2 years make it even worse.. Search on monster for .NET and J2EE
Compare the number of
jobs and do
At 3:27 PM -0700 6/29/05, Yan Hu wrote:
We will use a WEB application as an example,
especially the frond end. We have 2 bums on the
street. We give them 10 dollars per hour to
write a simple front end. One uses Struts or
whatever
J2ee MVC frameworks excluding JSF (using
Creator). The other
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I'm sure you can find someplace else.
-/Original Message-
Do you think so?
Most probably he is everywhere else already banned for lifetime ;-)
Alexander
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