Re: [libreoffice-users] How to turn a paragraph into a cross-reference/link

[Brian Barker]

At 01:27 20/08/2017 +0200, Dennis Heuer wrote:
On Sat, 19 Aug 2017 17:25:36 +0100 Brian Barker 
 wrote:
The hyperlink dialog expects a name for the hyperlink that 
substitutes the original text block. How can I do it different?


Try not giving it a name.


Then it substitutes with the target name.


Er, not for me, it doesn't.

There just needs to be a tabulator space in the selection, and the 
hyperlink rewrites the selection.


It seems that you can avoid this by creating the hyperlink for the 
text without the tab and inserting the tab afterwards. Indeed, it 
seems that as long as you have a minimum of two characters in your 
paragraph you can create the hyperlink and then add to the paragraph 
between those end characters as you wish - without upsetting the hyperlink.



Definitely, the hyperlink mechanism won't do...


You are welcome to give up, but I haven't. You said originally that 
you wanted to include images, and a way to do that - as someone has 
already suggested - is to create identical hyperlinks for them separately.


Brian Barker  



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Re: [libreoffice-users] How to turn a paragraph into a cross-reference/link

[Robert Funnell]

On Sat, 19 Aug 2017, Dennis Heuer wrote:


On Sat, 19 Aug 2017 14:35:21 +0200
Regina Henschel  wrote:


Hi Dennis,

why do you need, that the entire block of text becomes a link? Do I
understand it correctly, that when clicking _somewhere_ in the block,
LO should switch to a different part of the document?


Read my message again. Therein is mentioned an example use-case.
This behaviour (link on div) is actually very very common on internet
and very very useful if the link info is heterogenuous (and thus it
would be cumbersome to find out what is clickable or to always target
at a different (and maybe small) location in an order of
heterogenuous list entries.)


The problem is, that the  element, which is needed to define
the click-sensitive area, is only allowed inside a paragraph and
therefore cannot contain multiple paragraphs.


It even cannot include a tabulator space whithout replacing the
selection. This is a very bad restriction. The true problem is that
LibreOffice is only expecting explanatory text snippets for hyperlink
names while in HTML the hyperlink very quickly turned into a universal
attribute of a semantic division. The latter is far more helpful...


As far as I know, the nature of hyperlinks in HTML has not changed. I 
looked at the page source for the kind of on-line shopping site that 
you're talking about, and the functionality that you want is produced 
by repeating the hyperlink for each text string or image that can be 
clicked on. Such pages are presumably created using specialized 
software.


- Robert

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Re: [libreoffice-users] How to turn a paragraph into a cross-reference/link

[Dennis Heuer]

On Sat, 19 Aug 2017 14:35:21 +0200
Regina Henschel  wrote:

> Hi Dennis,
> 
> why do you need, that the entire block of text becomes a link? Do I 
> understand it correctly, that when clicking _somewhere_ in the block,
> LO should switch to a different part of the document?

Read my message again. Therein is mentioned an example use-case.
This behaviour (link on div) is actually very very common on internet
and very very useful if the link info is heterogenuous (and thus it
would be cumbersome to find out what is clickable or to always target
at a different (and maybe small) location in an order of
heterogenuous list entries.)

> The problem is, that the  element, which is needed to define
> the click-sensitive area, is only allowed inside a paragraph and
> therefore cannot contain multiple paragraphs.

It even cannot include a tabulator space whithout replacing the
selection. This is a very bad restriction. The true problem is that
LibreOffice is only expecting explanatory text snippets for hyperlink
names while in HTML the hyperlink very quickly turned into a universal
attribute of a semantic division. The latter is far more helpful...

> Kind regards
> Regina
> 
> Dennis Heuer schrieb:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I seek for a way to mark a text block (including indentions, images
> > and what is in there) and turn it into a cross reference - without
> > it getting substituted with a link name or a page number or the
> > like. I want it just as you find it in internet-shops: There is an
> > article entry, with header, text, image and price tag, and you can
> > click on the whole block (division in HTML))
> >
> > regards
> > -
> > Dennis Heuer
> > e...@verschwendbare-verweise.seinswende.de
> >
> 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] How to turn a paragraph into a cross-reference/link

[Dennis Heuer]

On Sat, 19 Aug 2017 14:48:04 +0200
Jean-Baptiste Faure  wrote:

> Le 19/08/2017 à 13:18, Dennis Heuer a écrit :
> > [...]
> > The hyperlink dialog expects a name for the hyperlink that
> > substitutes the original text block. How can I do it different?
> 
> Select the text block, then ctrl+K to create the link
> 
> Best regards.
> JBF

There just needs to be a tabulator space in the selection, and the
hyperlink rewrites the selection. Definitely, for my case, the
hyperlink mechanisms ain't work...

Regards,
-
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Re: [libreoffice-users] How to turn a paragraph into a cross-reference/link

[Dennis Heuer]

On Sat, 19 Aug 2017 17:25:36 +0100
Brian Barker  wrote:

> >
> >The hyperlink dialog expects a name for the hyperlink that 
> >substitutes the original text block. How can I do it different?
> 
> Try not giving it a name.
> 
> Brian Barker 

Then it substitutes with the target name. There just needs to be a
tabulator space in the selection, and the hyperlink rewrites the
selection. Definitely, the hyperlink mechanism won't do...

Regards,
-
Dennis Heuer
e...@verschwendbare-verweise.seinswende.de

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[libreoffice-users] How to rename headers for the cross-reference list

[Dennis Heuer]

Hello,

I have numbered chapters, formatted as headers, and these headers are
provided automatically in the cross-reference list. I use this feature
for a self-brewn index. But also the PDF-Viewer seems to recon these
entries and provides them as document index automatically. That's ok
with me, even though I'd like to have more control over this, but the
names were autogenerated by LibreOffice (just taking the header content
an dropping spaces and tabs) and read awkward. I want to change them, as
also not all of the header should be in the reference name. How can I
change these entry names in the cross-reference list?

Regards,
-
Dennis Heuer
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[libreoffice-users] color palettes

[Tim-L--Elmira-NY]

As of a few days ago, I started to upload some testing versions of color 
palettes.  I am slowly working on using colors from images and photos as 
a collection of colors.


One attempt uses a photo of a old brass candle stick.  I took some of 
the colors that made up the item itself.


Also, I am working on sorting colors into palettes, like 100 gray shades 
or metal named colors.


If you want to look at them, you can download them from my 
LibreOffice-NA.US site.


I wiped that site, since I no longer use it for its original purpose. 
So, right now it is plain looking.  Later I will have a better looking 
page[s], with links to the various LO web pages that might be of use.





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Re: [libreoffice-users] How to turn a paragraph into a cross-reference/link

[Brian Barker]

At 13:18 19/08/2017 +0200, Dennis Heuer wrote:
On Sat, 19 Aug 2017 06:16:10 +0100 Brian Barker 
 wrote:

At 16:21 18/08/2017 +0200, Dennis Heuer wrote:
I seek for a way to mark a text block (including indentations, 
images and what is in there) and turn it into a cross reference - 
without it getting substituted with a link name or a page number or

the like.


I think you just need not a cross-reference but a hyperlink. You 
will see that a hyperlink can be to a different part of the same 
document or another document, not just to a web address. You can 
link to tables, frames, graphics, OLE objects, sections, headings, 
or bookmarks.


The hyperlink dialog expects a name for the hyperlink that 
substitutes the original text block. How can I do it different?


Try not giving it a name.

Brian Barker 



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Portrait printing problems redux - printer tray sensor issue?

[Tim-L--Elmira-NY]

On 08/18/2017 08:20 PM, Marc Grober wrote:

While I have not had this problem up until today, I understand that this
problem has cropped up from time to time and no one has yet resolved the
source.

I have OSX 10.11.6 and just recently updated to LO 5.4.0.3 - print at
issue is an HP Deskjet 8500 A910

Suddenly LO documents show up correctly in preview, but only appear in
landscape in print dialog, and only print in landscape. All other
applications appear to work fine.

However, sometimes the document will appear correctly and will print
correctly, but continued use of LO will then result in reversion to the
landscape mode. There is nothing I can determine that causes the
reversion to proper behavior. Deleting and reinstalling the printer does
not seem to help.

I tested changing the format to A4 and that seems to put things right,
so I tested setting the dialog at letter but reducing the page width
from 8.5 to 8.49, and that correct the problem as well...

Is this likely some kind of page tray sensor issue?


Yes there is a paper tray sensor.

Tools > Options > LibreOffice Writer > Print

Other - paper tray from printer settings

I use Ubuntu Linux.  I default all of my printers, except one, to letter 
portrait.


For a work-around, I just change the printer's default setting.  
Sometimes I like to use Borderless Letter size, so it is easier to 
export the document to PDF and use the PDF reader's printing option for 
that page size.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] How to turn a paragraph into a cross-reference/link

[Jean-Baptiste Faure]

Le 19/08/2017 à 13:18, Dennis Heuer a écrit :

[...]
The hyperlink dialog expects a name for the hyperlink that substitutes
the original text block. How can I do it different?


Select the text block, then ctrl+K to create the link

Best regards.
JBF

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Re: [libreoffice-users] How to turn a paragraph into a cross-reference/link

[Regina Henschel]

Hi Dennis,

why do you need, that the entire block of text becomes a link? Do I 
understand it correctly, that when clicking _somewhere_ in the block, LO 
should switch to a different part of the document?


The problem is, that the  element, which is needed to define the 
click-sensitive area, is only allowed inside a paragraph and therefore 
cannot contain multiple paragraphs.


Kind regards
Regina

Dennis Heuer schrieb:

Hello,

I seek for a way to mark a text block (including indentions, images and
what is in there) and turn it into a cross reference - without it
getting substituted with a link name or a page number or the like. I
want it just as you find it in internet-shops: There is an article
entry, with header, text, image and price tag, and you can click on the
whole block (division in HTML))

regards
-
Dennis Heuer
e...@verschwendbare-verweise.seinswende.de




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Re: [libreoffice-users] How to turn a paragraph into a cross-reference/link

[Dennis Heuer]

Hello,

On Sat, 19 Aug 2017 06:16:10 +0100
Brian Barker  wrote:

> At 16:21 18/08/2017 +0200, Dennis Heuer wrote:
> >I seek for a way to mark a text block (including indentations, 
> >images and what is in there) and turn it into a cross reference - 
> >without it getting substituted with a link name or a page number or
> >the like.
> 
> I think you just need not a cross-reference but a hyperlink. You will 
> see that a hyperlink can be to a different part of the same document 
> or another document, not just to a web address. You can link to 
> tables, frames, graphics, OLE objects, sections, headings, or
> bookmarks.
> 
> I trust this helps.
> 
> Brian Barker
> 

The hyperlink dialog expects a name for the hyperlink that substitutes
the original text block. How can I do it different?

regards,
-
Dennis Heuer
e...@verschwendbare-verweise.seinswende.de

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Capitalized folder names in Linux LO

[Johnny Rosenberg]

2017-08-18 15:53 GMT+02:00 H. Stoellinger :

> Hello,
> I have been using LO (and before that OO and StarOffice!) for years and am
> a very satisfied "customer".
> I do have one question now: When I open files or look at directories from
> a terminal (eg. Konsole under
> KDE) I see that some directory names are listed twice - once with the
> small first letter I had defined them
> with (using "camel" notation in general!) and once with that first letter
> capitalised.  They both always point
> to the same content. I experience this with LO running under Debian or
> Mint (don't know the situation
> under Windows).
>

Didn't you just say that you used a terminal?


> Has anybody else experienced this "weird" behaviour?
>

I don't know, I'm still not sure what you mean. Do you mean that if you
look at directories and files created by LibreOffice, they appear with two
different upper-/lower case variations? Otherwise I can't for my life see
what LibreOffice has to do with this…


> Regards from sunny and very hot Salzburg
> H. Stoellinger


By the way, I have LibreOffice 5.2.7.2 and an old Ubuntu (14.04) and I
don't know what you're talking about, so I think I haven't seen it. I use
the terminal a lot (not Konsole, though) and I have never seen any of my
files more than once in the same directory.


Kind regards

Johnny Rosenberg



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Portrait printing problems redux - printer tray sensor issue?

[Alexander Thurgood]

Le 19/08/2017 à 02:20, Marc Grober a écrit :

Hi Marc,

> 
> I tested changing the format to A4 and that seems to put things right,
> so I tested setting the dialog at letter but reducing the page width
> from 8.5 to 8.49, and that correct the problem as well...  
> 
> Is this likely some kind of page tray sensor issue?
> 

There is a known bug report about this behaviour, with the workaround
suggested to change the page size (even if just by a fraction of an inch
or by a few mm), but unfortunately no one has been able as yet to
identify where in the code the issue is being caused.

Alex


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