Re: [libreoffice-users] Does LO normally appear in Windows 10 start menu?

[Robert Funnell]

My LO does appear in the Start menu in Windows 10 and has survived 
many Windows updates. I don't know offhand how to restore it to the 
Start menu. I suppose you could reinstall LO.


- Robert

On Sun, 20 Sep 2020, Philip Jackson wrote:

In the course of investigating another thread, I went to make a couple of new 
files in LO Writer on my W10 box. I was surprised to be unable to find 
LibreOffice or any of its modules in the Start Menu.


I only keep W10 for use of a couple of applications that either don't work or 
work poorly under linux so some weeks, W10 spends more time updating than 
creating. It is maintained fully up to date.


Way back, I installed LibreOffice 6.3.5.2 but usually I start Writer or Calc 
from the File Explorer right click drop-down's "start with ...".


I do have the feeling that originally LibreOffice did appear in the start 
menu but perhaps my memory fails me. Or did a Windows 10 update remove the 
listing from the Start Menu?


Any suggestions about how to get LO and its modules to appear (reappear) in 
the start menu?


Philip



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Create a relative hyperlink to file?

[Robert Funnell]

Regina -

FWIW, I just tried it in LO 6.1.5.2 under Debian Linux 10 and it 
worked as you said, without an error message, and with the very 
misleading appearance of the absolute path in LO (but with the 
relative path appearing in content.xml).


- Robert F.

On Sat, 19 Sep 2020, Regina Henschel wrote:


Hi Dave,

I have now used an English UI, and now the correct fields. Open 
Hyperlink-dialog, click Document. Click "Open File" button at the ride side 
of the Document Path field.


I have tried with system open file dialog and with LO's own dialog. It works 
in both cases. Ctrl-click opens e.g. a linked .odt file in LibreOffice.


I work on Windows 10. What OS do you use? Perhaps there is an error in Linux?

Kind regards
Regina

DaveB schrieb am 19-Sep-20 um 23:22:

 On 19/09/2020 20:01, Robert Großkopf wrote:

 Hi Dave,


 I am trying to create a Writer document with a number of links to files
 in the same directory as the odt file itself. Using absolute paths
 everything works perfectly, but relative links (eg. file://abc.xyz)
 always fail with a "not an *absolute* URL" error.


 The links will be saved als relative links in the file. Try to move the
 file to another folder - together with the other documents. It will work.

 Have a look in the *.odt-file in content.xml:
 

 Hi Robert,

 Many thanks for taking the time to reply.

 If you look at my original post and my reply to Regina the odt file and
 the hyperlinked files are are already in the same directory, so I see no
 reason why moving them to another location would change anything.

 It really doesn't matter what appears in content.xml. The critical point
 is that keyboard Ctrl+click on the hyperlink in the odt file generates a
 "not an *absolute* URL" error.

 Sorry if I have misunderstood or misinterpreted the explanation you and
 Regina have kindly given, but I need to clearly explain this for
 inexperienced users in the next edition of the official LibreOffice
 Writer Guide.

 Kind Regards
 Dave


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Narrow equivalent in margins in Writer

[Robert Funnell]

In the page style you can modify the left and right margins in the 
same way as you modify the top and bottom margins. Does that not do 
what you want?


- Robert


On Sun, 30 Aug 2020, charles meyer wrote:


Hi,

I searched the Libre Writer User Manual but didn't find the equivalent to
Narrow Margins option you have in MS Word 2016.

In that Word window you can make the margins all very narrow AND do a
custom where I can make the top/bottom margins .20.

All I can see in Writer is Format > Page Style and make the t/b margonms
.20.

That narrow option in Word allows me to fit content all on less pages when
copied from a Web site or forum.

Thanks.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Great Look

[Robert Funnell]

On Sat, 20 Jun 2020, Manfred Nowak wrote:


On https://www.libreoffice.org/discover/libreoffice/ is stated "LibreOffice makes your work 
look great". But no measure for "Great Look" is defined. Therefore this claim may be 
doubted.


From the rest of the text, it's clear that 'great look' means that 
the document is consistently styled and well structured. The claim 
'makes you work look great' should really be 'gives you tools that 
help make your work look great'. It doesn't have quite the same 'zing' :-)



An example is enclosed. As one might recognize that example consists of a 
paragraph requiring at least two lines.


I did not find your example.


The not-so-great-look establishes itself, when the paragraph does not fit into 
two lines anymore, and therefore a third line is required; in addition the last 
words are very long and cannot be hyphened. This requires, that at least the 
second line will have additional space between its words, because the last 
words of the paragraph have to be moved into the third line.


What word cannot be hyphenated?


But distributing that additional space over only the second line induces 
without visible reason, that the spaces between the words of the first line are 
not equal to the spaces between the words of the second line.


The 'visible reason' is that you've specified full justification (left 
and right). Possible solutions are to accept hyphenation of the long 
word that you say cannot be hyphenated; use left justification rather 
than full justification; or reword your sentence. You can control how 
the problematic word is divided by using a 'Soft hyphen' or perhhaps a 
'No-width optional break' (Insert > Formatting Mark).



And equal spacing between words is a hallmark of great look, isn't it. At least 
TeX obeys this hallmark.


In fully justified text, the spaces are never all equal, even in TeX.

- Robert


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[libreoffice-users] Laser-pointer-like mouse cursor in Impress?

[Robert Funnell]

PowerPoint has the ability to make the mouse cursor appear during a 
presentation as a coloured blob that looks a bit like a laser pointer.

Is there something like this in LO Impress?

If not, what tricks do people use for making the mouse cursor easier 
to see during a presentation? My best effort so far is to enable mouse 
trails (in MS Windows).


- Robert


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Re: [libreoffice-users] insert unicode char in writer

[Robert Funnell]

Gary -

That's precisely what I think I saw - font substitution occurring 
automatically, transparently and with absolutely no indication that I 
could find. This was under Windows 7. I suspect that it's the same 
under Linux but I haven't checked.


- Robert

On Wed, 3 Oct 2018, Gary Collins wrote:


Hi Robert
I don't *think* a replacement font is happening  - though i'm no expert. I can 
start a new text document which starts with liberation serif and enter u+a723 
followed by   alt+x and get the character ok. So unless font substitution 
occurs automatically, transparently and with absolutely no indication, with LO 
searching all loaded fonts until it finds one with the character.. maybe it 
does that, but it would seem to me to be undesirable because what if more than 
one loaded font had the character, on what basis would the choice be made? 
Surely, that's something the document author ought to decide. But how would the 
author know that a replacement was necessary at all? Or maybe it's different in 
windows and ubuntu?
I haven't a clue.
Best,
/G.

On Sat, 29/9/18, Robert Funnell  wrote:

Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] insert unicode char in writer
To: "Gary Collins" 
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Saturday, 29 September, 2018, 16:29

It looks to me as though U+A723
is actually not supported by
Liberation
Sans or Serif and that a font replacement is happening,
although no font replacements are specified in
my Options >
LibreOffice > Fonts. I
don't know how to identify which font is
actually being used for the character. (LO
6.0.4.2, Windows 7)

-
Robert

On Sat, 29 Sep 2018, Gary
Collins wrote:

> Thanks
for reply,  alt+X is exactly what i need. The font in
question (liberation sans/serif) as i say  *does* have the
characters but i still cant seem to get them in the special
chars dialog.
> Thanks
> /G.
>

> On Fri, 28/9/18, Regina Henschel 
wrote:
>
> Subject:
Re: [libreoffice-users] insert unicode char in writer
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Date: Friday, 28 September, 2018, 11:52
>
> Hi Gary,
>
> Gary Collins schrieb
am 28-Sep-18 um 11:51:
> > Hi
> > I would like to be
> able to insert some unicode characters
into writer doc but
> cant find a way to
do this directly.
>
>
Type U+0161 and then press Alt+X, for example.
> Alt+X is a toggle. You
> can use it also to
>
look, which code a character has.
>
> Insert special char doesnt seem to be able
to
> find the chars i want, but
> maybe i'm
> not
doing something right.
>
> The special character dialog works, but
you
> need to know which font has
> a glyph for the
>
character. Otherwise the character will not be shown in
> the selection pane.
>
>   I have
> a workaround using calc; i can enter the
hex codes as text
> (row
> 1) and (row 2) use a formula
> =UNICHAR(HEX2DEC(A1)) filled acrosd
> adjacent column and finally copy row 2
and
> paste as unformatted text
> into writer. This
>
works but is rather longwinded to say the least. It
> does show that its not a problem with the
font
> or with writer's ability
> to display the
>
required chars; its just that i'd like a way to enter
>
> them directly into
the writer documext.
> > The chars in
question were hex A723, A725,
> 1E25,
1E2B, 1E96, 0161 (this one i *could* use insert
> special char), 1E6F, 1E0F.
> > Build
>
1:5.2.2-0ubuntu2.1
>
> Have you looked, whether Ubuntu has a
direct
> input method? On Windows it
> is possible to
> use
the numpad for direct input, although I prefer the
> U+hexnumber method of LibreOffice.
>
> Kind regards
> Regina
>

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Re: [libreoffice-users] insert unicode char in writer

[Robert Funnell]

On Fri, 28 Sep 2018, Regina Henschel wrote:


Hi Gary,

Gary Collins schrieb am 28-Sep-18 um 11:51:

Hi
I would like to be able to insert some unicode characters into writer doc 

but cant find a way to do this directly.

Type U+0161 and then press Alt+X, for example. Alt+X is a toggle. You 
can use it also to look, which code a character has.

...


This is a nice feature that I didn't know about. It doesn't seem to be 
included at 
https://help.libreoffice.org/Writer/Shortcut_Keys_for_Writer

Thanks.

- Robert


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Re: [libreoffice-users] insert unicode char in writer

[Robert Funnell]

It looks to me as though U+A723 is actually not supported by 
Liberation Sans or Serif and that a font replacement is happening, 
although no font replacements are specified in my Options >
LibreOffice > Fonts. I don't know how to identify which font is 
actually being used for the character. (LO 6.0.4.2, Windows 7)


- Robert

On Sat, 29 Sep 2018, Gary Collins wrote:


Thanks for reply,  alt+X is exactly what i need. The font in question 
(liberation sans/serif) as i say  *does* have the characters but i still cant 
seem to get them in the special chars dialog.
Thanks
/G.

On Fri, 28/9/18, Regina Henschel  wrote:

Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] insert unicode char in writer
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Friday, 28 September, 2018, 11:52

Hi Gary,

Gary Collins schrieb am 28-Sep-18 um 11:51:
> Hi
> I would like to be
able to insert some unicode characters into writer doc but
cant find a way to do this directly.

Type U+0161 and then press Alt+X, for example.
Alt+X is a toggle. You 
can use it also to

look, which code a character has.

Insert special char doesnt seem to be able to
find the chars i want, but 
maybe i'm

not doing something right.

The special character dialog works, but you
need to know which font has 
a glyph for the
character. Otherwise the character will not be shown in 
the selection pane.


  I have
a workaround using calc; i can enter the hex codes as text
(row 
1) and (row 2) use a formula
=UNICHAR(HEX2DEC(A1)) filled acrosd 
adjacent column and finally copy row 2 and
paste as unformatted text 
into writer. This
works but is rather longwinded to say the least. It 
does show that its not a problem with the font
or with writer's ability 
to display the

required chars; its just that i'd like a way to enter

them directly into the writer documext.
> The chars in question were hex A723, A725,
1E25, 1E2B, 1E96, 0161 (this one i *could* use insert
special char), 1E6F, 1E0F.
> Build
1:5.2.2-0ubuntu2.1

Have you looked, whether Ubuntu has a direct
input method? On Windows it 
is possible to
use the numpad for direct input, although I prefer the 
U+hexnumber method of LibreOffice.


Kind regards
Regina


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Re: [libreoffice-users] insert before table at start of doc

[Robert Funnell]

On Fri, 28 Sep 2018, Regina Henschel wrote:


Gary Collins schrieb am 28-Sep-18 um 10:41:

 Hi
 If i have a writer doc with a table inserted right at the start before any
 text, but later i want to insert some lines of text before that table, ive
 found i can do this by converting the table to text, inserting the lines
 and then converting the text back to table; but is there a less tiresome
 way?


Set cursor at the start of top left cell. Press Alt+Enter.


Why not just press Enter? I just tried it in LO 6.0.4.2 and it wasn't 
necessary to use Alt.


- Robert


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Accents in spelling check

[Robert Funnell]

On Thu, 2 Aug 2018, Séamas Ó Brógáin wrote:


I was dismayed to discover recently (and surprised that I never noticed
before) that Libre Office disregards the difference between, say, á and
a in spelling checks, and in find and replace. (Dismayed also to
imagine that someone thinks this is a good idea.)


If I enter the string 'éeéeéeéeéeéeéeée' and do Find (or Find and 
Replace) for either 'é' or 'e', it picks up only the appropriate form. 
And if I enter the text 'hélp help', then 'hélp' is flagged by the 
spell checker but 'help' is not. So I don't seem to be seeing what you 
describe? I'm using LO 5.2.7.2 under Debian Linux with the language 
set to English (Canada).


- Robert

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Did a message reply to all?

[Robert Funnell]

Yes, it worked beautifully :-)


On Tue, 5 Jun 2018, Peggy wrote:


Someone told me to use "reply all". I found an option under settings to set
it that way. Either has to be one of the other. I guess I'll have to
remember to uncheck it when I don't want to use it. Some groups don't want
to be bothered with everyone's reply.

Anyhow I sent a message out a few minutes ago and am wondering if "reply
all" worked?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] One more question before I give up for the night. I thought the table was set to not split cells when it went to the next page, but that's not happening. I've looked for a way

[Robert Funnell]

Peggy -

Have you got this to work? I assume that you're setting the behaviour 
by unchecking the 'Allow row to break across pages and columns' check 
box in the Text Flow tab of the Table Properties dialogue? I tried it 
and it worked. If it really doesn't work for you, it might help to 
specify what operating system you're using and what version of 
LibreOffice.


- Robert


On Tue, 5 Jun 2018, Peggy wrote:

<<<
Re: [libreoffice-users] One more question before I give up for the night. I thought the table was 
set to not split cells when it went to the next page, but that's not happening. I've looked for a 
way to set it (highlighting the table) and even though each one (I'm working on several files) is 
not set to split across pages and columns, it is splitting the rows when it goes to the next page. 
Is there anyway to fix that?




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Frustrated with stupid behavior while trying to do a project.

[Robert Funnell]

Peggy -

I don't really understand Wade Smart's response, but have you tried 
right-clicking in the affect cell and selecting 'Unprotect Cells'?


- Robert

On Mon, 4 Jun 2018, Wade Smart wrote:


From the help menu:

You can enable a selection cursor in a read-only text document or in the Help.
Choose Edit - Select Text or open the context menu of a read-only document
and choose Select Text. The selection cursor does not blink.

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On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 6:27 PM, Peggy <33mar...@gmail.com> wrote:

I am using a table to list all of our scattered names, phone numbers, etc
to keep them together in alphabetical order. It means I guess where the
names go and cut and paste to put entries in the correct places. All has
been fine, until now.

Now suddenly, I can't cut and paste one of the cells. It cuts, but won't
paste where I want it to go.. I tried to just write the information into
the cell and get this message: "Read only content; Write protected content
cannot be changed. No modifications will not be accepted"

It's my document for heaven's sake. I didn't write protect it. I've tried
to find a place under the table menu where something got changed and can't.
If I have to I'll try save it under another name and then see if the
problem sticks, but I shouldn't have to.

Can anyone tell me how this glitch happened and if there's anything I can
do to change it?

I've been working all day and hoped to finish tonight. What's wrong with
this program! I would be so grateful for an answer!

Peggy


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Font issues with LO-5.4.x

[Robert Funnell]

On Wed, 27 Sep 2017, Rich Shepard wrote:


 LO dropped support for TrueType fonts with version 5 and replaced that
with support for OpenTypeFormat fonts. The fontforge tool allows one to
create new fonts and convert existing one from one type or encoding to
another.


Where is this documented? All I could find were statements that LO 
dropped support for Type 1 fonts.


- Robert


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Re: [libreoffice-users] How to turn a paragraph into a cross-reference/link

[Robert Funnell]

On Sat, 19 Aug 2017, Dennis Heuer wrote:


On Sat, 19 Aug 2017 14:35:21 +0200
Regina Henschel  wrote:


Hi Dennis,

why do you need, that the entire block of text becomes a link? Do I
understand it correctly, that when clicking _somewhere_ in the block,
LO should switch to a different part of the document?


Read my message again. Therein is mentioned an example use-case.
This behaviour (link on div) is actually very very common on internet
and very very useful if the link info is heterogenuous (and thus it
would be cumbersome to find out what is clickable or to always target
at a different (and maybe small) location in an order of
heterogenuous list entries.)


The problem is, that the  element, which is needed to define
the click-sensitive area, is only allowed inside a paragraph and
therefore cannot contain multiple paragraphs.


It even cannot include a tabulator space whithout replacing the
selection. This is a very bad restriction. The true problem is that
LibreOffice is only expecting explanatory text snippets for hyperlink
names while in HTML the hyperlink very quickly turned into a universal
attribute of a semantic division. The latter is far more helpful...


As far as I know, the nature of hyperlinks in HTML has not changed. I 
looked at the page source for the kind of on-line shopping site that 
you're talking about, and the functionality that you want is produced 
by repeating the hyperlink for each text string or image that can be 
clicked on. Such pages are presumably created using specialized 
software.


- Robert

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Unwanted Alternative Image Names

[Robert Funnell]

Gordon -

I just opened a .odt document with captioned images in LO 5.0, did
File > Export and selected XHTML. (I don't see a separate HTML 
option.) When I view the resulting file in my Web browser, a lot of 
things aren't right but the images appear with their captions and no 
filenames. Am I not doing the same thing as you're doing?


- Robert


On Mon, 24 Jul 2017, gordon cooper wrote:


Hi Steve,
  Yes it is satisfactory, it is only the display of the image 
file names that is
a relatively small nuisance. I can get rid of them by editing properties for 
each

image, so asked to see if there was a setting that would remove them for the
whole file. Have also had to look at table properties to ensure that framing 
lines
appeared in the html.  HTML also has an advantage in that some software 
language
translation programmes, e.g. Googletranslate,  will preserve the formatting, 
even

if some of the phrasing and syntax needs correcting.

Gordon.


On 25/07/17 11:29, Steve Edmonds wrote:

 Hi.
 Is the HTML format satisfactory in all other aspects for your needs.
 I had to correct the HTML in tables exported by writer so am now wary
 about using it for HTML export.
 steve

 On 25/07/17 08:20, gordon cooper wrote:
> 
> 
>  On 25/07/17 03:07, leleu wrote:

> >  Did you try to deliver these manuals as pdf ? /
> >  /
>  /Have been delivering in pdf and html for a couple of years, and using 
>  Lyx for//
>  //authoring/editing.  Open Doc. has been used for translations mainly 
>  because//
>  //it was preferred by the translators.  Decided recently to use LO for 
>  authoring//
>  //and delivery so that users can make copies in their preferred format. 
>  For both//

>  //pdf and html have using LO's export function: //
>  //File>Export as PDF
>  or//
>  //File>Export>All formats>html//
>  //
>  //The unwanted alternative text only appears on the html exports./
> 
>  Gordon.
> 
> 
> > 
> >  How do the users copy to html? Using the LO menu "Save as"? or 
> >  selectng, then "Edition>Copy" .?
> > 
> >  Je la 24/07/2017 16:48, anne-ology skribis :

> > >  From my experience,
> > > I would say you've uncovered a 'bug' since the name of 
> > >  the image

> > >  should only appear if the image cannot for some reason.
> > > 
> > >  Here's hoping you can find a solution anon,
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  From: gordon cooper 

> > >  Date: Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 5:23 PM
> > >  Subject: [libreoffice-users] Unwanted Alternative Image Names
> > >  To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  We are using Libre Office in the writing of technical manuals

> > >  where some users make html copies.
> > > 
> > >  Finding that the file names of images are being displayed

> > >  beside or below the images in the html versions. Because
> > >  all images are given a caption, we do not want the file names too.
> > > 
> > >I can remove them by going to each image Properties>Options

> > >  and deleting one at a time but this is time consuming when there are
> > >  many images - over 100 in one manual.  Is there a setting that can
> > >  automatically prevent the file names being displayed?
> > > 
> > >  Have looked through the Help but found nothing, did I overlook it?
> > > 
> > >  Gordon

> > >  Tauranga N.Z.
> > >


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Unwanted Alternative Image Names

[Robert Funnell]

Gordon -

Yes, I see that indeed my Alternative names are blank, which 
apparently is the default when a new image is inserted. How did you 
create your .odt files? Manually? Or by some sort of conversion from 
another format that defined the Alternative names?


- Robert


On Tue, 25 Jul 2017, gordon cooper wrote:




On 25/07/17 12:29, Robert Funnell wrote:

 Gordon -

 I just opened a .odt document with captioned images in LO 5.0, did
File >  Export and selected XHTML. (I don't see a separate HTML
 option.) When I view the resulting file in my Web browser, a lot of things
 aren't right but the images appear with their captions and no filenames.
 Am I not doing the same thing as you're doing?

 - Robert

 Robert,
 You are correct with the XHTML selection - the smaller print on 
that line indicates
  the selection is correct for html and xhtml.  If you secondary 
click on the image
  and select Properties>Options,  the popup shows (in my case) 
the name of the image
  and immediately  below, a line for Alternative name which is 
displaying the file name
  of the image. it is this filename that appears in the html 
exports. The fix is to go
  to each image Properties and delete whatever is showing in the 
Alternative name

   line.
Gordon.



 On Mon, 24 Jul 2017, gordon cooper wrote:

>  Hi Steve,
>Yes it is satisfactory, it is only the display of the 
>  image file names that is
>  a relatively small nuisance. I can get rid of them by editing properties 
>  for each
>  image, so asked to see if there was a setting that would remove them for 
>  the
>  whole file. Have also had to look at table properties to ensure that 
>  framing lines
>  appeared in the html.  HTML also has an advantage in that some software 
>  language
>  translation programmes, e.g. Googletranslate,  will preserve the 
>  formatting, even

>  if some of the phrasing and syntax needs correcting.
> 
>  Gordon.
> 
> 
>  On 25/07/17 11:29, Steve Edmonds wrote:

> >   Hi.
> >   Is the HTML format satisfactory in all other aspects for your needs.
> >   I had to correct the HTML in tables exported by writer so am now wary
> >   about using it for HTML export.
> >   steve
> > 
> >   On 25/07/17 08:20, gordon cooper wrote:

> > > > >   On 25/07/17 03:07, leleu wrote:
> > > >   Did you try to deliver these manuals as pdf ? /
> > > >   /
> > >   /Have been delivering in pdf and html for a couple of years, and 
> > using >   Lyx for//
> > >   //authoring/editing.  Open Doc. has been used for translations 
> > mainly >   because//
> > >   //it was preferred by the translators.  Decided recently to use 
> >  LO for >  authoring//
> > >   //and delivery so that users can make copies in their preferred 
> >  format. >  For both//

> > >   //pdf and html have using LO's export function: //
> > >   //File>Export as PDF
> > >   or//
> > >   //File>Export>All formats>html//
> > >   //
> > >   //The unwanted alternative text only appears on the html exports./
> > > >   Gordon.
> > > > > > > >   How do the users copy to html? Using the LO menu "Save 
> >  as"? or > >  selectng, then "Edition>Copy" .?

> > > > > >   Je la 24/07/2017 16:48, anne-ology skribis :
> > > > >   From my experience,
> > > > >  I would say you've uncovered a 'bug' since the 
> >  name of > > >  the image

> > > > >   should only appear if the image cannot for some reason.
> > > > > > > >   Here's hoping you can find a solution anon,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >  From: gordon cooper 
> >  <gordon_coo...@kinect.co.nz>

> > > > >   Date: Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 5:23 PM
> > > > >   Subject: [libreoffice-users] Unwanted Alternative Image Names
> > > > >   To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> > > > > > > > > > >   We are using Libre Office in the writing of 
> >  technical manuals

> > > > >   where some users make html copies.
> > > > > > > >   Finding that the file names of images are being displayed
> > > > >   beside or below the images in the html versions. Because
> > > > >   all images are given a caption, we do not want the file names 
> >  too.
> > > > > > > > I can remove them by going to each image 
> > Properties> Options
> > 

Re: [libreoffice-users] no middle dots

[Robert Funnell]

Interesting. I didn't know about the option of turning off the display 
of some of the non-printing characters. Thanks. I found it under Tools 

Options > LibreOffice Writer > Formatting Aids > Display of.


On Sun, 19 Feb 2017, Gabriele Ponzo wrote:


I guess the button you pressed is the mirrored P one.

In this case it looks really a weird behavior.

What version of LO are you using?

Sometimes I had such problems too, but with Tab symbol...

Another thing you could try to check is on the settings (CMD + ,): there is
a section where you can specify what to see and what not when you activate
the "non printable symbols" functionality.

Il 19 feb 2017 12:58 PM, "Ann Must"  ha scritto:

hi!

i'm a (very) new macbook user & as such ignorant. also, i've to complete a
book of mine before handing it over to publisher. in TextEdit, there seems
not to be a shorter-than-paragraph highlighting possibility (confirmed by
lots of comments), so i downloaded .DMG file from
https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/install-howto/os-x/ site. now i can
highlight whatever i want, but i can't activate the so-called 'middle
dots'--empty-spaces-marker between words and other units. but i badly need
to see them because the book will be published from the manuscript-file and
i wouldn't count on editor to do such fine work. when i press the icon that
i know to be for that purpose, it only displays the enter-marks.
i've been using LibreOffice for years while on my old Linux-based laptop
(and was in this list too, now subscribed anew), and that manuscript was
written in LibreOffice Writer. i mention it to illustrate i know a thing or
two about LOWriter.
i trust it's something easy that just doesn't leap to mind!

regards



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Trying to make a macro

[Robert Funnell]

On Sun, 28 Aug 2016, Felipe T. Dorado wrote:


On Sun, 28 Aug 2016 14:08:53 +0200, Felipe escribió:

FTD> I notice that you call your .csv file a "sheet" and I think it is not
FTD> a sheet, yet, but a text file.

I found the "Import" sheet option in the menus. I found it in  "Insertar" >
"Hoja de archivo", which in English should be: "Insert" > "Sheet file" or
"Worksheet"


My LO Calc has both Insert > Sheet ... and Insert > Sheet From File ...


I think this may be confusing: I saved the imported .csv file to disk and
the original .csv file is 1278 bytes long whereas the .ods is 34912 bytes
long.

-rw-r--r-- 1 philip philip  1278 ago 28 13:41 text_file.csv
-rw-r--r-- 1 philip philip 34912 ago 28 14:12 text_file.ods

They cannot be "the same". Either the program or the translation of the
menu is wrong.  Inserting a file equals to importing it, fine. But calling
a .csv file a "sheet" might create confusion. And on top of that trying to
include this in a macro will surely confuse even more.


It seems natural that a .ods file will be bigger than a .csv file that 
contains the same data corresponding to a single sheet, since the .ods 
file has a lot of extra overhead.


I haven't been following this thread so I might have missed the point.

- Robert

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: XML document

[Robert Funnell]

On Thu, 18 Aug 2016, Piet van Oostrum wrote:


Alexander Thurgood wrote:

> Le 17/08/2016 à 18:35, Tom Morton a écrit :
>
> Hi Tom,
>
> > This is impossible tho. If I deleted these sections I would have had to have
> > deleted them separately as they were not together. And also if I had of
> > deleted them, the footnotes would have disappeared also? I would have had to
> > have highlighted each paragraph and deleted them and made sure I didn't
> > delete the citation... I remember perfectly saving my paper, exiting Libre
> > Office Writer and then going to bed. There's just no way.
> >
>
> I'm not saying that there wasn't a problem with LibreOffice, who knows
> it could well have been a "Heisenbug"-type scenario that only occurs in
> some specific, seemingly random circumstances - e.g. saving to network
> drive where the connection fails, saving to USB key, power surge/outage,
> etc.

As I wrote in a previous message, I saved one of my documents as MS 2003 XML, 
and it was severely broken. A large part was missing, so this doesn't seem an 
intermittent bug, but something structural.


I just saved a document as MS 2003 XML and when I reopened it it was 
quite creatively messed up: broken headers and footers, bad fonts, 
weird vertical strips of text, ... .


I did a search for '2003 xml' at bugs.documentfoundation.org and found 
a number of old related bugs. The ones that I looked at had not had 
any attention for years except for annual checks that they still 
happen. It doesn't seem that it's a high priority. I hadn't even 
realized that there was such an export format.


- Robert

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Draw

[Robert Funnell]

David -

Evince, mentioned by Bruce, also works under Windows.

- Robert

On Mon, 6 Jun 2016, DavidBTeagueAt Comporium.net wrote:


Thank you Harvey, Stuart, and Bruce for useful information and suggestions.
I am a long time user of OO.org & LO, from the time of Star Office before 
Sun. I am not a "power user" though I am a long time user.

I will investigate the pdf packages suggested.
With warmest regard
David

On 6/6/2016 3:07 PM, Harvey Nimmo wrote:

 I find Master pdf Editor to be a useful tool. It is free form non
 -commercial use. It can be a wee bit slow on my Linux openSUSE Leap
 42.1 but has many features that you may have seen in Adobe Pro, and is
 also available for Windows. See
 https://code-industry.net/masterpdfeditor.
 Cheers
 Harvey
 On Mon, 2016-06-06 at 11:49 -0700, V Stuart Foote wrote:
>  DavidBTeagueAt Comporium.net wrote
> >  In my search  for a cross platform (Linux/Windows) and preferably
> >  GPL/free pdf reader.  I found that Draw does very well.
> > 
> >  1) I would like an easy/easier way to move page to page in Draw.
> > 
> >  2) Is there a way to do this?

>  Draw is a component of the full LibreOffice suite, and  is not
>  intended to
>  be installed individually--although some Linux distros attempt to do
>  that.
> 
>  Draw is not a PDF editor or reader. It will perform a filter driven

>  import
>  of PDF as pages in a ODF Draw document converting content of the PDF
>  to Draw
>  objects.  Some PDF features implemented by Adobe are simply not
>  implemented.
> 
>  On export from Draw, or Writer or Impress or Math--filters are again

>  used to
>  render the content back into PDF--mostly compliant with PDF 1.5 spec
>  with
>  some additional options.
> 
>  Once imported into LibreOffice (default is Draw, but filter import to

>  Writer
>  and Impress is also supported),  focus in the "Pages" frame allows
>  movment
>  between pages with PgDn and PgUp keys.
> 
>  YMMV -- and please  accept this is the way LibreOffice (ApacheOpen

>  Office
>  and OpenOffice before) interact with PDF.
> 
>  So if you can live with that, enjoy!
> 
>  Stuart

>


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Re: [libreoffice-users] a question about libreoffice writer:

[Robert Funnell]

On Mon, 30 May 2016, Piet van Oostrum wrote:


nasrin khaksar wrote:

> hello every one.
> my sister wrote one document in microsoft word.
> i offered her libreoffice and encouraged her to use it.
> when she opened the document with libreoffice writer, she told that
> before of many words - is added to her document while openning with
> libreoffice writer!
> she did not add - to her documents and she did not want this unwanted
> changes for it.
> could you please help her to solve this problem?
> thanks for your help and god bless you all.

I am afraid that will be difficult without you giving more details. Maybe it 
has to do with the language and/or script in which the document was written?


I agree that more details are required. Could you perhaps copy and 
paste a few words into your e-mail message from both the original MS 
Word document and the resulting LO Writer document?



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Re: [libreoffice-users] APA Heading 3 that does not use paragraph style

[Robert Funnell]

Steve, I've never heard of a non-breaking paragraph terminator. Could 
you expand on how to insert it? I don't see it in the Insert > Manual 
Break menu.


- Robert

On Fri, 6 May 2016, Steve Edmonds wrote:

Would a non-braking paragraph terminator resolve the issue. Inserted into the 
Insert>Manual Break... Menu. It would be a paragraph break that does not 
perform a line feed.

Steve

On 2016-05-07 05:35, Marc Grober wrote:

>  Not knowing anything about it it sounds like a real odd requirement\\
 Let me try again :-)

 LO has a built in indexing feature.  Part and parcel of this feature is
 a configurable Table of Contents (ToC) generator.
 For some reason, this generator will include a user configurable set of
 Paragraph Styled text as ToC entries, but will not allow you to include
 text that is Character styled.

 As a result, any heading that could be described as "run-in" or
 "in-line" can't not be included in the ToC. In the example below, the
 bold text should be a heading, but cannot be made a heading without also
 making the entire ensuing paragraph part of the heading :-(

  *This is Heading Three*. As one can see, this level of
 heading yada yada yada
 and blah blah blah as that is the way it is.

 The macro that was referenced earlier creates a mini invisible heading,
 and then character formats the actual text, fooling the ToC generator
 into adding the text to the ToC, while hiding the heading from the
 reader.  Quite a kludge, but there should be a simpler and more robust
 way to manage this.

 Why? Because all APA (or similar style) formatted documents with a level
 3 heading have this issue, and because it is likely that all the
 generator is doing is searching for the tags, noting the page and adding
 the tagged text to the ToC, there should be no reason this would not be
 the simplest fix.
> 
> >  Op 5 mei 2016, om 21:14 heeft John Jason Jordan  
> >  het volgende geschreven:
> > 
> >  On Thu, 5 May 2016 06:48:54 -0800

> >  Marc Grober  dijo:
> > 
> > >  The APA Publication Manual (Section 3.03, Pg 62) mandates a Heading 
> > >  3

> > >  style that that is bold and indented (1/2 an inch like a normal
> > >  paragraph), and then followed on the same line by the text.


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Re: free text editor (was: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt)

[Robert Funnell]

On Thu, 5 May 2016, Piet van Oostrum wrote:


Robert Funnell wrote:

> Felipe -
>
> The hidden text being discussed here is described at
> https://help.libreoffice.org/Writer/Hiding_Text
> That doesn't seem to be what you're talking about?
>
> - Robert
>
That is missing one important case, that I think we were talking about.

It is normal text, that has been formatted with
Format > Character > Font Effects > Hidden.


OK, now I know there are two ways of hiding text :-) Thank you.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] APA Heading 3 that does not use paragraph style

[Robert Funnell]

Marc -

Does this link help?
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=71=709

- Robert

On Thu, 5 May 2016, Marc Grober wrote:


I have worked through quite a few templates, and have found that address
this problem  :-(

On 5/5/16 11:14 AM, John Jason Jordan wrote:

On Thu, 5 May 2016 06:48:54 -0800
Marc Grober  dijo:


The APA Publication Manual (Section 3.03, Pg 62) mandates a Heading 3
style that that is bold and indented (1/2 an inch like a normal
paragraph), and then followed on the same line by the text.

I believe there is a template for APA. Don't ask me where to find it,
however. And I don't know if it will solve your problem.



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Re: free text editor (was: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt)

[Robert Funnell]

Felipe -

The hidden text being discussed here is described at 
https://help.libreoffice.org/Writer/Hiding_Text

That doesn't seem to be what you're talking about?

- Robert

On Thu, 5 May 2016, Felipe T. Dorado wrote:


Hello Luuk  : )

On Thu, 5 May 2016 13:18:23 +0200, Luuk wrote:

L> On 05-05-16 11:12, Piet van Oostrum wrote:

L> > Save as .txt des save all text, including hidden text. Just try it out.

I have, Piet.

L> I think i have a different meaning of 'hidden text', than the average 
L> reader here  :-)


It would seem so.
Re-inventing the wheel isn't either smart nor efficient:

I wrote a file containing just:

"This an ODT file written in LibreOffice 5.1.
"

I saved it in LO native format: an_odt_file.odt
Then I saved it as text (plain, flat, ascii):   an_odt_file.txt

I listed the directory where I saved them and:

bytes   datefile
8628may  5 20:07an_odt_file.odt
49  may  5 20:07an_odt_file.txt

I opened the txt file with various text editors (nano, leafpad, gedit,
even notepad through wine) and have not been able to find any "hidden
text" ...  Just 49 bytes including spaces and Line Feed.
What do people understand by "hidden text"? The coding put there
by a word processor?
Saving a file as text is just that: saving it as text  (plain, flat, ascii)
with nothing else.

M$Win seems to produce strange things in how some users conceive files:
macros, scripts, programs, etc. just to strip the good old codes WordStar,
WordPerfect and many others  nowadays simply _hide away_ so the user cannot
see them. But they are there, doing their tasks.

Text is text. Just like this I've just written is text and nothing more.

Felipe  : )


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Re: free text editor (was: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt)

[Robert Funnell]

Walther -

Could you open your content.xml with Emacs and record a macro to 
find and remove the hidden text? (I'm not sure that qualifies as 
simple.)


- Robert

On Tue, 3 May 2016, Walther Koehler wrote:


Hallo,
Am Dienstag, 3. Mai 2016 schrieb Bruce Hohl:

> Do you have some advice how to remove the hidden (hard-)formatted text in

a

> simple way?

File > Save :: Save as type = Text (.txt) OR Text - Choose Encoding (.txt)
Thus, LO can be used to read, create and edit unformatted text files.


Yes, you are right, but it does not solve my problem. The text file will 
contain the hidden formated text.


To make it very clear:
I do not care about the format information in the file.
I do not want the content (the hidden formated characters) in the file before 
shipping.


Using linux, the command line program xpath might do the job. It is capable of 
removing certain xml tags in a file like


blabla

Regards

Walther

...


> > From: Walther Koehler 
> > Date: Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 5:54 AM
> > Subject: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt
> > To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> >
> >
> > Dear LO users,
> >
> > I would like to give away *.odt files without hidden formated text.
> > Do you have some advice how to remove the hidden (hard-)formatted text
>
> in a
>
> > simple way?
> > Is it possible by a macro?
> >
> > (I am aware that you can make hidden text invisible and print the file
> > without
> > hidden text on paper. I also know how to remove properties)
> >
> > Thank you in advance
> >
> > Walther


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Disabling recent-doc list [was Re: [libreoffice-users] Re-activating the Recent Documents Function in LibreOffice 5]

[Robert Funnell]

A simple Google search for 'libreoffice recent documents disable' 
found the following, among others:

http://superuser.com/questions/726467/libreoffice-4-2-1-1-do-not-display-list-of-recent-documents

You should not 'hijack' another person's question to ask your own 
different question.


On Tue, 22 Mar 2016, nasrin khaksar wrote:


hi.
i use libreoffice 4.4.6 and i wanted to ask how can deactivate recent
document fonction.
and i appreciate you if someone help me to do this.
i want to libreoffice does not keep the recent document which i opened before.
thanks so much and god bless you all.

On 3/22/16, David Dorman  wrote:

For most of the time I was using LibreOffice 4, the system kept track
the most recent documents and I was able to click on "Recent Documents"
to quickly go to a document I was working on.  At some point in the last
year, the function ceased to work.  When I upgraded to LibreOffice 5 I
thought the function might return, but it did not.  I tried to
re-activate the "Recent Documents" function by clicking on "Customize"
in the drop down menu under "Tools" and then clicking on "Recent
Documents" in the "Menu Content" box of the "Menus" tab, but from there
I could not figure out what to do to re-activate the "Recent Documents"
function.  I would appreciate help if anyone out there knows how I can
get the "Recent Documents" function to work again.

David Dorman

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Highlighting Writer Text in 5.0.4 crashes Writer.

[Robert Funnell]

In case it helps, I just tried it in LO 5.0.1.2 under MS Windows and 
there was no crash.


Nasrin, what operating system were you using?

- Robert

On Wed, 9 Mar 2016, nasrin khaksar wrote:


hi.
what stable version did you use before?
i did not test 5.0.4 but tested 4.3.7, 5.0.5 and worked great for me.
i use 4.4.6 did you tested and also 5.0.5?
i heard from many users that 5.0.5 is great and stable.

On 3/10/16, Steve Edmonds  wrote:

Hi.
Just updated to 5.0.4 in Opensuse and find highlighting (selecting) text
in my manuals consistently crashes Writer, I can't practically edit my
manuals in 5.0.4.
Downgrading to 4.3 fixes the problem.

Not sure if this is Opensuse specific. Linked document is large (but I
couldn't select text to delete it).
Appreciate if someone could test before filing a bug report.
To repeat, go to chapter 4.9. Highlight from the previous paragraph to
the word after the heading.

es.
  4.9  RS-485 AND MODbus CONNECTION
RS

For me Writer crashes every time.
Thanks, Steve

File is too big for nabble (19MB), linked here.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByFEFUXgJhGkTDY0UHB4OUpBRjQ/view?usp=sharing




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Viewing Manual Break Locations

[Robert Funnell]

On Thu, 3 Mar 2016, Annette wrote:


CVAlkan wrote (Thursday, March 3, 2016, 4:35:53 PM):


While inserting manual page breaks (Insert | Manual Break ... | Page Break)
to permit different header content for different sections (small "s"
sections - not Insert | Section ... sections) seems to work well.



But removing them when required, or adding another between previously
entered breaks is difficult to do, since I can't see where exactly they are.



I've trolled through the menus trying to find a way to make them visible,
but can't locate such a feature. Does anyone know how to make these visible?


I don't know a way to make them visible, but there is a quite helpful
extension that I use for such cases:

http://extensions.libreoffice.org/extension-center/alternative-dialog-find-replace-for-writer/releases/1.4.1

Good luck!


When I insert a manual page break I see a blue dashed line between the 
two pages. Don't you see that? I can easily delete the page break by 
going to the beginning of the next page. This is in LO 5.0.1.2 but I 
think it's been like that for a long time.


- Robert

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Re: [libreoffice-users] 5.1.1 breaks anchored-as-character frames

[Robert Funnell]

On Thu, 3 Mar 2016, M Henri Day wrote:


2016-03-03 14:41 GMT+01:00 Regina Henschel :


Hi Mike,

Mike Scott schrieb:
[..]



Is there a way of reverting to an earlier 5.x? Synaptic doesn't offer
these, and makes switching versions something close to agonizingly hard.

Thanks.



I can easily make an administrative installation of any version I want on
Windows, which do not influence each other. Is that not possible on Linux?

Kind regards
Regina



​As can be seen here, using Linux Mint and the Swedish language as an
example, there's no problem selecting earlier versions of *LO* to download
(scroll to the bottom of the page to select the desired version) : ​

https://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-fresh/?type=deb-x86_64==sv
​



I don't know how to install an old version using Synaptic and the 
standard package-management system, which Mike referred to, but it is 
possible to install software directly, as Henri describes.


- Robert

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Re: [libreoffice-users] How to find out which fonts are used in an Open Document?

[Robert Funnell]

Perhaps export as PDF and let a PDF viewer tell you what fonts are 
there? (I haven't tried this, I just discovered recently that a PDF 
viewer could tell me that.)


- Robert

On Fri, 5 Feb 2016, Pedro wrote:


Hi all

Does anyone know a way to find out which fonts are used in a Open Document
(in this case it's an Impress presentation)?

I'm trying to figure out how a user can make sure that he has all the fonts
needed to view a presentation or any other document (which does NOT have
embedded fonts) exactly like the author intended.

Thank you in advance!

Pedro



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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreLogo tutorial

[Robert Funnell]

I'd like to comment on the 2 typographic rules mentioned for English.

(1) Many typographers believe that there should not be 2 spaces after 
the period at the end of a sentence. See

http://audilab.bme.mcgill.ca/~funnell/InforMed/Bacon/WP/space.html

(2) I don't think it's correct to say that double quotes are used for 
one thing and single quotes for another. The rule that I'm familiar 
with is that you consistently use whichever you prefer (or whichever 
your publisher requires) and then switch to the other style if they're 
nested. For example, you might write 'He said "She said 'I did it'"'.


- Robert

On Sat, 5 Dec 2015, Kolbjørn Stuestøl wrote:


Den 05.12.2015 01:58, anne-ology skreiv:

 This first section looks good as is;
but does have a few grammatical errors which I'll point out in
[
] s.

 In spite of what some computer users say or do, I'll continue to
 stick with proper grammar -

I agree. But I know too little about English grammar and typographic rules

after a period in a sentence there should be 2 spaces even
 though
 these machines default to only 1;
In HTML double or more spaces becomes a single space. See Mark's reply to 
this list. It is a lot of work to add the code '' behind every period.

and double quotes are for conversations - single quotes - or in
 your Norwegian << >> - would be used for empasis, et.al.

I'll try to remember this.


 And BTW - looks as if you've spent a lot of time creating a very
 good site & program,

Thank you.
Brian Barker (many thanks to him) has proofread the whole site and sent it to 
me private.

I will use his suggestions together with yours.
It will take some time to code it as I prefer hand coding.

Perhaps because the settings of of my e-mail reader I did not see the film. 
Was displayed as '[Image: display film]'.


Kolbjørn


 How to open LibreLogo in LibreOffice

 The great majority who use LibreOffice do not know there is a Logo variant
 in Writer.  There are no direct links to LibreLogo on the menus.  The only
 way, I think, is to open a new text document.  In the main menu at the top
 of the page, press the View → Toolbars → Logo.  This will open the
 LibreLogo toolbar.  This toolbar contains some buttons to control the
 turtle and a command line where you can enter commands. Press on one of
 the
 buttons to bring up the turtle.

 ['great' is superfluous ...

'I think' is superfluous; you're the writer therefore this can
 either
 be left out or changed to possibly or probably ...

   'turtle' ...

  command line to enter commands.]
 [image: vise film]
 The Buttons on the Menubar

 Every time you press on buttons Backward and Forward the turtle will be
 moved 10 pixels backwards or forwards.  Buttons Right and Left will turn
 the turtle 15º clockwise or counter-clockwise.   Button Home moves the
 turtle to the starting point in the middle of the page with the head
 upwards.  Clear screen will remove all drawings from the page.  Start and
 Stop are used to start and stop the execution of the program.  The command
 line is used for entering commands, one line at a time.  The button to the
 right of the command line is used to configure all commands with large
 letters and to translate the program into other languages.  This is not
 used in this overview.

 [Each time you press on any button - ...

will move ...

   backward or forward ...]

 If the purpose is to learn programming, only the command line and buttons
 to clear the screen and put the turtle back is helpful. The others buttons
 is used to create shapes without programming.

 [are helpful.  The other buttons are]


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[libreoffice-users] Behaviour of non-looping animated GIF's in Impress

[Robert Funnell]

In Impress (and also, I gather, in PowerPoint) non-looping animated 
GIF's return to and stop at the first frame after displaying the 
animation. This seems odd, and is not the way that they're displayed 
in Firefox, where they just stop at the last frame.


Is there something I'm missing? Is there any way to control this 
behaviour?


I know that one can apply a long delay to the last frame of the 
animation, but it's inelegant and could be inconvenient if one 
happened to stop for a discussion at that point in the slide show.


Thanks.

- Robert



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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO Writer won't let me manually hyphenate a name.

[Robert Funnell]

On Thu, 19 Mar 2015, Doug wrote:


On 03/19/2015 08:26 PM, Eric Beversluis wrote:

 I've got a name 'Bruinsma' that LO wants to hyphenate between the 'u' and
 the 'i'. I'm trying to get it to hyphenate between the 'n' and the 's'. LO
 won't let me. I go to tools-language-hyphenation with the word
 highlighted, but there's no way I can get it to move the hyphen. If I put
 my cursor where I want it to hyphenate and click 'hyphenate', it just
 closes the dialog and leaves the hyphen in the original place. There also
 doesn't seem to be a way to tell LO not to hyphenate that word at all.

 As I read the manuals, I should be able to just use 'ctrl plus -' to
 manually place a hyphen. But this doesn't work either.

 Using LO Version: 4.2.8.2
 Build ID: 4.2.8.2-6.fc20

 What am I missing?


Eric: If you use 'ctrl plus -' to insert an optional hyphen before the 
'u', does it take effect? If you put it after the place where LO 
already wants to hyphenate, it makes sense that it won't have an 
effect, unless you turn off automatic hyphenation in the paragraph 
style.




 Thanks.



This sort of thing is _exactly_ why I won't use LO or AOO!

--doug


Doug: So why exactly are you on this list?

- Robert

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Justifying some texts causes big spaces between words

[Robert Funnell]

On Wed, 17 Sep 2014, Bruce Byfield wrote:


On Tuesday 16 September 2014 11:42:53 PM James wrote:

On 14-09-15 12:57 AM, Daniel wrote:

Is there a reason why when I justify some texts, automatically there are
big spaces between words?

Thanks

Daniel


Full Justification justifies to both left and right sides.
Try left or right justification.


Other choices: experiment with the line length, the font, and the font size.



Other choices: turn on automatic hyphenation (which I don't recommend) 
or manually do Insert  Formatting Mark  Optional hyphen in 
strategically chosen words (i.e., first words in lines after lines 
with very big spaces). You may need to use a dictionary to figure out 
the correct places for hyphens in words.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Split cells in Calc

[Robert Funnell]

On Sun, 10 Aug 2014, Brian Barker wrote:


At 11:49 10/08/2014 -0400, Robert Funnell wrote:

On Sun, 10 Aug 2014, Brian Barker wrote:

At 13:25 10/08/2014 +0200, Pat Brown wrote:
Is there any way to split a primary (one that has not been 'merged' 
previously) cell? I can't seem to find such an option. If there is no 
current option then is it technically possible to do so?


This wouldn't really make sense. One of the principal functions of a 
spreadsheet is to be able to refer to individual cells in formulae. If you 
split a single cell, how would you refer to each part of it separately? 
What would D7 now mean? D7RB for the right, bottom sub-cell of what was 
originally D7? What when you divide those cells further?


It should in principle be possible to just renumber everything. After that, 
it doesn't seem to be different in principle from what happens when cells 
are merged.


That sounds impressive, but it's just magic! If you explained what you meant, 
you might see why it makes little sense.


If you divide D7 horizontally, do the two parts become D7 and E7? In that 
case, do columns E onward get relabelled to F and so on? And formulae 
adjusted? Since column E now has only one cell, what does a reference to E6 
mean? Is the column now labelled D or E or D/E?


If you now happen to divide F9, does it become F9 and G9 or does it take 
advantage of the ghost of column E and label itself E9 and F9? Are the 
columns now labelled D/E and E/F?


As also mentioned by another poster, if you want to effectively split 
a single cell, you can add a row or column and then merge cells that 
you don't want to be split. (Perhaps a macro could be developed to do 
this.) Would your concerns not then be resolved?


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Re: [libreoffice-users] which version has the best legacy importing?

[Robert Funnell]

A quick Google search indicates that your suggestion of PrintShop may 
be close to the mark. It seems that the files are probably image files 
and not word-processing files. Apparently there are image-conversion 
programmes available out there that can handle these files.


On Sat, 12 Jul 2014, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:



OK everyone, I received the USB floppy from China, today.

The files are .sig
which might be something like Printshop or other software that was out there 
in October 2005 when the files were made.  There is a cover.sig, p1 - 
p13.sig, and a toc.sig file names.


Right now I have them on my Linux desktop, but will need some conversion or 
viewer for Ubuntu/Mint or Windows 7.


Any ideas?



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Code line continuation arrow

[Robert Funnell]

On Mon, 7 Jul 2014, Eric Beversluis wrote:


I'm entering some code lines in a LO Writer document. The lines are long
and wrap around and I'm looking for the special character 'curved arrow'
that is used to indicate that it's a continuation line and not a new
line of code. I don't see it in the Special Characters table. Does
anyone know if there's a way to insert this character?


There's this Unicode character: http://unicode-table.com/en/2938/
There are other possibilities at 
http://unicode-table.com/en/sets/arrows-symbols/


I don't know offhand what fonts support this.


Or even better, if there's some macro of something that will insert it
wherever the line of code happens to break, depending on how the
document is otherwise formatted?


I don't know about this.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Bibliography entry system and word/character counting

[Robert Funnell]

On Sun, 18 Aug 2013, Krunoslav Šebetić wrote:


On 08/18/2013 02:09 PM, Krunoslav Šebetić wrote:

 On 08/18/2013 08:20 AM, Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote:
  Le 17/08/2013 12:46, Krunoslav Šebetić a écrit :
   Hi,
  
   think that LO should have (a little bit) better bibliography entry
   system. Every thing works just fine, but I miss some features with 
   thing

   I'm writing now.
  
   When I do Insert - Indexes an tables - Bibliography entry I can insert
   entry from the document or from Bibliography database. Thing is that 
   the

   reference system I use require shortening of textnotes:
  You should try Zotero instead which works well with LO.
 
  Best regards.

  JBF
 


 Heard of that, never used it, I'll give it a try - thanks for replay
 because I really need something more powerful...


Page http://www.zotero.org/support/word_processor_plugin_installation says it 
will work with 3.5.6 what about 4.0.4 or 4.2 beta?


The Zotero version numbers are a bit confusing. 3.5.6 is the version 
number of the latest Zotero plugin for LibreOffice. As the page says, 
the plugin is 'compatible with all versions of LibreOffice', including 
4. (The plugin is _not_ compatible with version 4 of Apache 
OpenOffice.)


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Re: [Solved] Re: [libreoffice-users] Bibliography entry system and word/character counting

[Robert Funnell]

In Zotero's Document Preferences, note the choice between using 
ReferenceMarks or Bookmarks, and the choice of whether to 'Store 
references in document' or not. These choices will affect how you 
share documents with others.


On Sun, 18 Aug 2013, Tom Davies wrote:


Hi :)
I think i would send them a Pd of the whole thing in addition to the Odf.  Also i think i would include a link to the 2 relevant download pages. 


Thanks for letting me know btw!  It might help my situation quite a bit.
Thanks and regards from 
Tom :) 








From: Krunoslav Šebetić kruno0...@gmail.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Sunday, 18 August 2013, 17:01

Subject: Re: [Solved]  Re: [libreoffice-users] Bibliography entry system and 
word/character counting


It is really easy to use, and I love the way it can be customized (in 
sense of formating bibliography entries) but just wonder - what happens 
when I send zotero odt to some one who doesn't have it installed? Does 
bibliography shows as it should?



On 08/18/2013 05:47 PM, Krunoslav Šebetić wrote:
First time I installed it, it wasn't showing in LO user interface, 
I've downloaded id again, upgraded Firefox to 23 and now it is showing 
in UI and allows me to use it. Still have to play with it a little bit 
to see what that thing can really do, but sure it is improvement over 
LO integrated bibliography system.


On 08/18/2013 04:23 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Congrats!!  Have you really solved it and got it all working properly 
now?  Is Zotero easy enough to use?


Some of my colleagues wont even try LO until it can do things that 
they never need it to do anyway.  One of the interns mentioned it 
being difficult to do bibliography and stuff so now no-one will even 
use it to write simple one-page letters.

Regards from
Tom :)


     
     *From:* Krunoslav Šebetić kruno0...@gmail.com
     *To:*
     *Cc:* users@global.libreoffice.org
     *Sent:* Sunday, 18 August 2013, 13:36
     *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] Bibliography entry system and
     word/character counting

     On 08/18/2013 02:30 PM, Robert Funnell wrote:
      On Sun, 18 Aug 2013, Krunoslav Šebetić wrote:
     
      On 08/18/2013 02:09 PM, Krunoslav Šebetić wrote:
       On 08/18/2013 08:20 AM, Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote:
        Le 17/08/2013 12:46, Krunoslav Šebetić a écrit :
     Hi,
       think that LO should have (a little bit) better
      bibliography entry
     system. Every thing works just fine, but I miss some
     features
      with    thing
     I'm writing now.
       When I do Insert - Indexes an tables - Bibliography
     entry I
      can insert
     entry from the document or from Bibliography database.
     Thing is
      that    the
     reference system I use require shortening of textnotes:
        You should try Zotero instead which works well with LO.
     Best regards.
        JBF
      
       Heard of that, never used it, I'll give it a try - thanks
     for replay
       because I really need something more powerful...
     
      Page
    http://www.zotero.org/support/word_processor_plugin_installation
      says it will work with 3.5.6 what about 4.0.4 or 4.2 beta?
     
      The Zotero version numbers are a bit confusing. 3.5.6 is the
     version
      number of the latest Zotero plugin for LibreOffice. As the page
     says,
      the plugin is 'compatible with all versions of LibreOffice',
     including
      4. (The plugin is _not_ compatible with version 4 of Apache
     OpenOffice.)

     Didn't install it right first time - got it working now - thanks!

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Linux Libertine G

[Robert Funnell]

On Sun, 16 Jun 2013, Élie Roux wrote:


Dear All,

I have LibreOffice 4.0.3 from Debian Wheezy backports. Sadly this doesn not 
install the Linux Libertine G font. I wanted to download it from 
http: //numbertext.org/linux/ (particularly 
http: //www.numbertext.org/linux/e7a384790b13c29113e22e596ade9687-LinLibertineG-20120116.zip), 
but the link starts downloading a few bytes then stops, it does this for a 
few weeks.


Is the download problem just on my side?


I just downloaded successfully from that site.


Is there somewhere else I can download the font?

Bonus question: will LibreOffice 4.1 use harfbuzz and thus make Linux 
Libertine G obsolete?


At http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/HarfBuzz/ it says that 
'harfbuzz-ng ... is used in latest versions of ... LibreOffice ...'.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] How to extract a color from a text?

[Robert Funnell]

On Sat, 25 May 2013 11:42:53 +0200
Axel Braun axel.br...@gmx.de wrote:


Any idea how to extract the font color and make it available for all
text?


There might be an easier way, but if you use an unzip file to look at 
the zip'd contents of a .odt file, you'll find content.xml. In there 
will be style definitions that include colours specified in 
hexadecimal. For example, from a little test file that I made:


style:style style:name=T4 style:family=textstyle:text-properties 
fo:color=#008000//style:style
text:span text:style-name=T4green/text:span

You can then use Tools  Options  LibreOffice  Colours
to add any desired colour to your GUI.

Is this what you wanted?

- Robert


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Numbering Questions: (2) or (1)?

[Robert Funnell]

On Fri, 1 Feb 2013, AG wrote:



I played around with this on my Debian box using LibO v.3.6.4.3.

I typed in e=mc2
new line and entered *fn* and then F3

It gave me E=mc2  (1)

So I did a second equation (made up for the purpose)

p =(q + 1)2
New line and *fn* and then F3

But got E=mc2   (2)

again ...

What gives?


I'm not sure what the problem is. This is what is supposed to happen. 
The autotext always gives the e=mc2 dummy equation. It pays no 
attention to anything but the 'fn'.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Numbering Equations

[Robert Funnell]

On Wed, 30 Jan 2013, TomW wrote:

What I found on my LibreOffice 3.5.5.2 (vista): lower case fn did not 
work(error like OP), upper case FN does work.  In calling up the autotext 
dialog, then selecting 'formula numbering', the displayed shortcut was FN 
(both uppercase).


For me, with both LibreOffice 3.4.6 under Linux and OpenOffice 3.4.1 
under Windows 7, either 'fn' or 'FN' works. My understanding is that 
AutoText is supposed to be case insensitive, and that the shortcut 
(e.g., 'FN') is always upper case. (Indeed, I'd prefer that it were 
not.) Do other people also see the case sensitivity?





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Numbering Equations

[Robert Funnell]

On Tue, 29 Jan 2013, Taang Zomi wrote:


On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Robert Funnell robert.funn...@mcgill.cawrote:


It's possible to do what you're trying to do without the F3 key. Go to the
Edit menu and select AutoText. You should see a list of categories. Expand
the one called Standard. If you scroll down the resulting list, you should
see the entry 'Formula Numbering'. Select it and then click on the Insert
button. Your equation should appear.

Does this work for you?

On Sun, 27 Jan 2013, Taang Zomi wrote:

 In LibreOffiice 3.3  Math Guide (0700MG33-MathGuide3.3.odt), on p. 14, the

following is written:

*Numbering equations*

Equation numbering is one of LibreOffice Math?s best hidden features. The
steps are simple, but obscure:

  1.

  Start a new line.
  2.

  Type *fn* and then press *F3*.

The *fn* is replaced by a numbered formula:


...



==

When I typed fn and pressed F3, nothing happened. In the document the fn I
typed appeared, not the desired result.


I do not know whether my F3 key did not work.

Can somebody kindly explain in step-by-step detail  how to number
equations.


==




Dear Robert,

Thank you very much for your reply. Now I know how to bypass the typing of
fn and the pressing of F3.

I typed fn in the Equation Editor and I found just fn in the document.
Beside the fn in the document, I pressed F3, and I got an onscreen message:

AutoText for Shortcut  not found.
...


If you see that message, then F3 is working. You're not supposed to 
type fn in the equation editor. Just type it in the document itself as 
regular text and then (with the cursor immediately to the right of 
'fn') press F3. As mentioned in another response, make sure that 
you're doing this in a Writer document.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Numbering Equations

[Robert Funnell]

It's possible to do what you're trying to do without the F3 key. Go to 
the Edit menu and select AutoText. You should see a list of 
categories. Expand the one called Standard. If you scroll down the 
resulting list, you should see the entry 'Formula Numbering'. Select 
it and then click on the Insert button. Your equation should appear.


Does this work for you?


On Sun, 27 Jan 2013, Taang Zomi wrote:


In LibreOffiice 3.3  Math Guide (0700MG33-MathGuide3.3.odt), on p. 14, the
following is written:

*Numbering equations*

Equation numbering is one of LibreOffice Math’s best hidden features. The
steps are simple, but obscure:

  1.

  Start a new line.
  2.

  Type *fn* and then press *F3*.

The *fn* is replaced by a numbered formula:

 [[equation: E = mc2] (2)

()

Now you can double-click on the formula to edit it. For example, here is
the Riemann Zeta function:
[equation: [Rieman Zeta Function]   (3)

You can reference an equation (“as shown in Equation (2)”) with these steps:

  1.

  Choose *Insert  Cross-reference* from the menu bar.
  2.

  On the *Cross-references* tab (Figure 17), under *Type*, select *Text*.
  3.

  Under *Selection*, select the equation number.
  4.

  Under *Format*, select *Reference*.



==

When I typed fn and pressed F3, nothing happened. In the document the fn I
typed appeared, not the desired result.


I do not know whether my F3 key did not work.

Can somebody kindly explain in step-by-step detail  how to number equations.


==

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Re: [libreoffice-users] record changes weakness compared to m$

[Robert Funnell]

On Thu, 20 Dec 2012, Tom Davies wrote:


Hi :)
Would an acceptable work-around be to send 2 versions of the document?  The old and the new? 


In 'most' (?) cases people would hopefully already have the old version, or an even older one.  Then hopefully the 
Compare Documents feature in the various different programs might provide roughly the same functionality?  
Doesn't track changes have a way of allowing comments that show-up if you hover over a particular change?  
I'm not sure of a good way to cover that sort of thing with Compare rather than Track.


In my experience, the Compare Documents feature is very 
unsatisfactory. For one thing, it will often flag an entire paragraph 
as having changed when only a word or two in the paragraph has 
changed.


- Robert

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Re: [libreoffice-users] record changes weakness compared to m$

[Robert Funnell]

On Wed, 19 Dec 2012, Felmon Davis wrote:


On Wed, 19 Dec 2012, Bobby kneisel wrote:


 Unfortunately, where I work, this feature is used heavily ( and yest it is
 really, really annoying) but is considered a must have for our
 environment.

 Bobby Kneisel


I wouldn't call it 'must-have' in my environment (academic) yet but I am very 
frequently confronted with it, e.g. today a colleague offered to a document 
back to me with 'changes' on; I reminded him I can't work well that way.


in my case, I also don't _like_ the feature. so much the worse for me.

F.


For what it's worth, I'm in an academic environment and I use the 
record-changes feature heavily with students, collaborators and 
colleagues, some of whom use LO/OO but most of whom use MS Word and 
.doc files. I use LO/OO myself and usually don't have problems, except 
sometimes when there are lots of figures and equations. This has 
improved over time. I love record-changes and would be lost without 
it.


- Robert

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Re: [libreoffice-users] font problem - anybody?

[Robert Funnell]

I just confirmed what I think you're seeing, in LO 3.4.6.
I guess that a bug report is required, after searching to make sure it 
hasn't already been reported.


On Fri, 24 Aug 2012, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:


So far not a single response.
Does that mean, I am the ONLY ONE experiencing this?
Or did I do something incredibly stupid? (yet, the same operation works
with OpenOffice)
Through googling and reading the documentation I could not yet find
anything helpful ...
Anybody?
Please.


(2012/08/22 23:06), Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:

Good evening
*** additional information:

I tried OpenOffice 3.3 (still in my office computer) -- No problem there!
So, what is this Writer - Calc problem?
A bug???

(2012/08/21 20:42), Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:

Good evening
I am working a translation (Japanese-German), using LOWriter + Calc 3.4.5
Both programs are set up to contain the same font.
Writer is used for writing the text, Calc to record special translation
terms I use (and want to remember).

BUT  when I copy a term (Japanse, font = MS P Gothic, 10.5 point)
from Writer to an empty cell in Calc,
the text gets gets garbled up and the computer is not even able to tell
me what font that is.
And it does not matter HOW I copy, straightforward with Ctrl+V, paste
special, paste unformated text ...
the result is always the same! Unintelligible hiroglyphs.
Yet, it works the other way: copy a term from Calc, paste it into
Writer: no problem.

When I copy the same text from Word (original text is a Word file),
there are no problems at all.

Can somebody please explain to me what is happening here?
(the same thing has happend many times in the past and is VERRY annoying!)

Oh, I just tried one more thing.
I select a term in Writer to copy and paste it into Excel -- no problem!

So, why does copy and paste not work between Writer - Calc???

Thank you.
Thomas



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Excuse me, but your opinion is simply unimportant. Start over and you can expect more of the same.

[Robert Funnell]

It was answered in this message:
  http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/msg22778.html
And also (unnecessarily snarkily) in this one:
  http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/msg22784.html

AOO = Apache Open Office

On Wed, 15 Aug 2012, anne-ology wrote:


  I too would like to know.

  It's been mentioned a few times now ... someone asks what is it, yet
no one responds  ;-)
  or are they responding privately  ???



On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Gordon Burgess-Parker
gbpli...@gmail.comwrote:

On 14/08/12 21:13, Andreas Säger wrote:



I'm going to upgrade all our production systems to AOO 3.4.1



What is AOO?



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Re: [libreoffice-users] [3.5.3.2/Writer] Split screen in half horizontally?

[Robert Funnell]

On 24/06/2012 at 19:06, Gilles codecompl...@free.fr wrote:


Can you confirm that there is no way in LibreOffice to open a long document
and split the screen in two halves?


I think that you can get the functionality that you want by 
doing Window  New Window.


There's a related discussion at
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42428

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Re: [libreoffice-users] capitalization

[Robert Funnell]

On Sun, 29 Jan 2012, Jay Lozier wrote:


On 01/29/2012 03:50 PM, Brad Rogers wrote:

On Sun, 29 Jan 2012 15:25:34 -0500
webmaster for Kracked Press Productions webmas...@krackedpress.com
wrote:

Hello webmaster,


The ignore double spaces is an option that needs to be looked.  To be
honest, I do not know what it does when it is checked.  I use double

Stops the occurrence of two or more spaces as word gaps.  I don't use
it  because it also means you can't have two spaces after a full stop.

I'm old school, I know


I read somewhere the two space rule between sentences is because a
typewriter could not properly space between sentences. I believe the
typographically correct spacing was something like 1.25 spaces between
sentences.


I found a nice quotation on this topic: 
http://audilab.bme.mcgill.ca/~funnell/InforMed/Bacon/WP/space.html 
Short version: use a single space after a sentence.


- Robert

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[libreoffice-users] Share stuff in registrymodifications.xcu

[Robert Funnell]

I run writer on multiple machines (Windows and Linux) and I like to 
share settings between them. I know how to do this with macros and 
menus by copying files. Now I would like to share the new entries that 
I've created in the symbol catalogue of the formula editor. These seem 
to be defined in registrymodifications.xcu. That file is very large, 
contains all sorts of stuff, and is hard to read. Does it make sense 
to copy it from one machine to another? If not, is there some other 
way of sharing symbol-catalogue entries?


Thanks.

- Robert




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