Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice Sort Bug ?

2015-04-01 Thread Tim Deaton
On 3/31/2015 11:49 PM, Michael Wu wrote: Valter Mura 於 2015/4/1 上午 04:07 寫道: Il 25/03/2015 23:42, Richard VINCK ha scritto: Hello at the nice people at LibreOffice! (especially you :-) ) I'm using LibreOffice version 4.4.1.2 I was very surprised to see a bug (?!) in the internal SORT

Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice Sort Bug ?

2015-04-01 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) So changing it is a Feature request and it might be handy if you, or whoever posts it in the bug-reporting system, gives us a clickable link so that we can maybe show that the change would be quite popular. Feels like you are getting somewhere with this! The next bit might have a looong

Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice Sort Bug ?

2015-04-01 Thread Regina Henschel
Hi all, Tom Davies schrieb: Hi :) So changing it is a Feature request and it might be handy if you, or whoever posts it in the bug-reporting system, gives us a clickable link so that we can maybe show that the change would be quite popular. Feels like you are getting somewhere with this! The

Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice Sort Bug ?

2015-04-01 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Wow!! That was really nicely done! All that detail and giving them the coding to search for and comparisons with other Spreadsheet programs! Thanks Regina! Also many thanks to Stuart Foote for his typical speed and efficiency in passing it straight onto the relevant team already! I

Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice Sort Bug ?

2015-04-01 Thread Tim Deaton
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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice Sort Bug ?

2015-03-31 Thread Michael Wu
Valter Mura 於 2015/4/1 上午 04:07 寫道: Il 25/03/2015 23:42, Richard VINCK ha scritto: Hello at the nice people at LibreOffice! (especially you :-) ) I'm using LibreOffice version 4.4.1.2 I was very surprised to see a bug (?!) in the internal SORT function of Calc. Please fill the following

Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice Sort Bug ?

2015-03-31 Thread Valter Mura
Il 25/03/2015 23:42, Richard VINCK ha scritto: Hello at the nice people at LibreOffice! (especially you :-) ) I'm using LibreOffice version 4.4.1.2 I was very surprised to see a bug (?!) in the internal SORT function of Calc. Please fill the following cells with a simple letter: L17=Z

Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice Sort Bug ?

2015-03-31 Thread Valter Mura
Il 27/03/2015 11:38, Pertti Rönnberg ha scritto: Tim Lloyd's comment is not acceptable! This is not a question of a (unpaid) programmer's likings or priorities -- this is a serious question of Libre Office's liability, because both of the the sort buttons in the toolbar (asc desc) give

Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice Sort Bug ?

2015-03-29 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/28/2015 10:32 AM, Pertti Rönnberg p...@elisanet.fi wrote: snip If LO really wants to increase its market share – to beat MSO, a benefit for all users – then it has to eliminate every possible cause of problems especially for the ‘ordinary user’ -- even the small ones like that

Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice Sort Bug ?

2015-03-28 Thread Pertti Rönnberg
Brian, Thanks for your reply and for the articles you linked to – especially the last one is very interesting. I have been aware of that but not so well explained. As I think you are very cunny both on spreadsheets and how to use them and also the mathematics, I am not able to argue. But

Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice Sort Bug ?

2015-03-27 Thread Pertti Rönnberg
Tim Lloyd's comment is not acceptable! This is not a question of a (unpaid) programmer's likings or priorities -- this is a serious question of Libre Office's liability, because both of the the sort buttons in the toolbar (asc desc) give wrong results as well as there is no clear explanation

Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice Sort Bug ?

2015-03-27 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I think you meant that the background behind Tim's answer is not acceptable. His actual answer seems very honest, truthful and useful. It is not a voice of arbitrary authority but one of wisdom and counsel. One problem with emails is that we don't hear the tone of voice nor any clues from

Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice Sort Bug ?

2015-03-27 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Err the fading dominance of MS formats is good but the dominance part is really annoying and causes a lot of unnecessary agro. Regards from Tom :) On 27 March 2015 at 12:01, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi :) I think you meant that the background behind Tim's answer is not

Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice Sort Bug ?

2015-03-27 Thread Brian Barker
At 12:38 27/03/2015 +0200, Pertti Rönnberg wrote: A spreadsheet program that cannot be fully trusted is totally worthless!! It's perhaps worth a reminder that, in the sense that you mean it, spreadsheets can never be trusted. Since much of their essential functionality is hidden (formulae,

Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice Sort Bug ?

2015-03-26 Thread Michael Tiernan
On 3/25/15 8:12 PM, Tim Lloyd wrote: at this point in the game this particular menu option can not be changed. See, now *THAT* is an answer we can live with. Thank you! I hate it but now I know what the problem (behind the scenes) is. -- MCT Michael C Tiernan.

Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice Sort Bug ?

2015-03-25 Thread Tim Lloyd
A quick look at the doco reveals... Range contains column/row labels – omits the first row or the first column in the selection from the sort Untick this box and you are sorted. Cheers On 26/03/15 10:06, Wade Smart wrote: Hmm I just tried to sort going through the sort menu and I still cant

Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice Sort Bug ?

2015-03-25 Thread Wade Smart
**cough cough** .. feature understood. -- Registered Linux User: #480675 Registered Linux Machine: #408606 Linux since June 2005 On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 6:02 PM, Michael Tiernan michael.tier...@gmail.com wrote: On 3/25/15 6:53 PM, Wade Smart wrote: I have 4.2.7.2 on Ubuntu 14.04 and you are

Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice Sort Bug ?

2015-03-25 Thread Wade Smart
I have 4.2.7.2 on Ubuntu 14.04 and you are correct, sort is not working. I tried with several sets of letters: p a b q r z The above is the sorted column. a isnt first? hmmm Wade -- Registered Linux User: #480675 Registered Linux Machine: #408606 Linux since June 2005 On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at

Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice Sort Bug ?

2015-03-25 Thread Michael Tiernan
On 3/25/15 6:53 PM, Wade Smart wrote: I have 4.2.7.2 on Ubuntu 14.04 and you are correct, sort is not working. When I reported it, I provided a great deal of information about it and was told Not a bug and works for me by those who have the power to close bugs. My argument was/is that if you use

[libreoffice-users] LibreOffice Sort Bug ?

2015-03-25 Thread Richard VINCK
Hello at the nice people at LibreOffice! (especially you :-) ) I'm using LibreOffice version 4.4.1.2 I was very surprised to see a bug (?!) in the internal SORT function of Calc. Please fill the following cells with a simple letter: L17=Z L18=B L19=Y L20=R L21=Q L22=P Now select those 6

Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice Sort Bug ?

2015-03-25 Thread Dave Liesse
If Sort By shows the data in the first cell then it is being treated as a column header. Go to the Options tab and correct the item regarding the sort range including the header. Dave On 3/25/2015 16:06, Wade Smart wrote: Hmm I just tried to sort going through the sort menu and I still

Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice Sort Bug ?

2015-03-25 Thread Tim Lloyd
Hi, while LO does allow a certain amount of customisation, at this point in the game this particular menu option can not be changed. This then becomes a feature request, either * change the default * allow the sort options to be customised Once a feature request is submitted it is really

Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice Sort Bug ?

2015-03-25 Thread Wade Smart
Hmm I just tried to sort going through the sort menu and I still cant get it to sort properly. It does numbers just fine though. -- Registered Linux User: #480675 Registered Linux Machine: #408606 Linux since June 2005 On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 6:04 PM, Wade Smart wadesm...@gmail.com wrote: