Re: maven errors on xml security package

2013-07-25 Thread Ron Wheeler
Are you sure that no other Java SDK exists on your workstation? Ron On 24/07/2013 12:44 PM, Dhiman wrote: Here is code snippet for source and target but this didn't help me build plugins plugin

javadoc release blocking step

2013-07-25 Thread Adrien Ruffié
Hello all, During my release :perform, maven block on a javadoc instruction and I don’t understand why it block indefinitely … the line where my process block is: [INFO] [DEBUG] /usr/lib/jvm/jdk1.6.0_37/jre/../bin/javadoc @options @packages According to following debug log traces

Re: maven surefire - selecting providers

2013-07-25 Thread Andreas Dolk
I'm still struggling - I now think that testng really is in mixed mode and tries but fails to execute the jUnit test - maybe, because they use a special runner. Is there any way to disable the mixed mode for a maven build (entirely)? How can I pass that property testng.mixed=false to testng

webstart application and Java7u25

2013-07-25 Thread Davide Silvestre
Hello, In Java 7u25 the following change has been introduced: http://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/technotes/guides/jweb/no_redeploy.html This requires that all the jars included in my webstart application have 2 extra entries in their manifest files. I build and I sign the jars contained in my

Preventing Maven from downloading certain versions from external repositories

2013-07-25 Thread Kristian Freed
Hi, In a current project, by convention, we use 1.0-LOCAL-SNAPSHOT as the default version for local builds, producing official builds only through our CI server. This works well but during local builds, Maven will needlessly look for these versions in external repositories, slowing the build

Re: Preventing Maven from downloading certain versions from external repositories

2013-07-25 Thread Andreas Dolk
Sure. Build in offline mode: mvn install -o It may not work everytime, but maven will complain loud enough, if it can't find an artifact in your local repo. Andreas 2013/7/25 Kristian Freed kristian.fr...@gmail.com Hi, In a current project, by convention, we use 1.0-LOCAL-SNAPSHOT as the

[DISCUSS] Should the Maven PMC be an example of how we want the Maven Community to behave (was Re: svn commit: r1506778 - /maven/site/trunk/content/markdown/project-roles.md)

2013-07-25 Thread Stephen Connolly
There are two schools of thought amongst the current members of this projects PMC. Without wanting to deliberately tip my hand and reveal where my opinion is, we would like to solicit the opinions if the community that we serve. Please give us your thoughts. The topic is essentially: Do you

Re: Preventing Maven from downloading certain versions from external repositories

2013-07-25 Thread Kristian Freed
Unfortunately we also have other internal libraries on SNAPSHOT versions that do need to be retrieved from the repository, so going offline completely is not an option. Kristian On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Andreas Dolk andreas.dolk.mo...@googlemail.com wrote: Sure. Build in offline

Re: [DISCUSS] Should the Maven PMC be an example of how we want the Maven Community to behave (was Re: svn commit: r1506778 - /maven/site/trunk/content/markdown/project-roles.md)

2013-07-25 Thread Nigel Magnay
That whole section I find pretty bizarre. - Apache is about (open-source) software. - Writing code is *good*. - Forks are *good* * * I'm put in mind of Linus' talk about why git distribution is so important - that 'if you don't think I'm doing a good job, then you can just take your code from

Re: [DISCUSS] Should the Maven PMC be an example of how we want the Maven Community to behave (was Re: svn commit: r1506778 - /maven/site/trunk/content/markdown/project-roles.md)

2013-07-25 Thread Ron Wheeler
There is clearly an underlying issue that prompts this question. My understanding is that members of the PMC are selected by other members of the PMC. There is no democratic will of the people involved. I am not sure how people get kicked off the PMC. What are the official grounds for asking

Re: [DISCUSS] Should the Maven PMC be an example of how we want the Maven Community to behave (was Re: svn commit: r1506778 - /maven/site/trunk/content/markdown/project-roles.md)

2013-07-25 Thread Curtis Rueden
Hi Stephen and everyone, I largely agree with Nigel, and would add that in general, bureaucratic rules prohibiting various (often technically and/or socially sound) actions such as forking are a great way to ensure that skilled people distance themselves from the organization (i.e., quit the PMC,

Re: Preventing Maven from downloading certain versions from external repositories

2013-07-25 Thread Russell Gold
Maven has a fair number of conventions that are respected by a lot of its code. Trying to work against those conventions is likely to cause problems for you. Maybe if you explain what your goal is, we can suggest a more Maven-like way of accomplishing the same thing. On Jul 25, 2013, at 8:58

AW: [DISCUSS] Should the Maven PMC be an example of how we want the Maven Community to behave (was Re: svn commit: r1506778 - /maven/site/trunk/content/markdown/project-roles.md)

2013-07-25 Thread Markus Karg
As a Maven user I think that everybody who is working on a project should behave the same. Hence, I would say, PMC members should rather certainly demonstrate how to live the community rules. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Stephen Connolly [mailto:stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com]

Re: [DISCUSS] Should the Maven PMC be an example of how we want the Maven Community to behave (was Re: svn commit: r1506778 - /maven/site/trunk/content/markdown/project-roles.md)

2013-07-25 Thread Stephen Connolly
On Thursday, 25 July 2013, Curtis Rueden wrote: Hi Stephen and everyone, I largely agree with Nigel, and would add that in general, bureaucratic rules prohibiting various (often technically and/or socially sound) actions such as forking are a great way to ensure that skilled people distance

Re: Preventing Maven from downloading certain versions from external repositories

2013-07-25 Thread Ron Wheeler
Are you at least proxying the external Maven repos through your own repo. That will speed things up. Ron On 25/07/2013 9:58 AM, Kristian Freed wrote: Unfortunately we also have other internal libraries on SNAPSHOT versions that do need to be retrieved from the repository, so going offline

Re: [DISCUSS] Should the Maven PMC be an example of how we want the Maven Community to behave (was Re: svn commit: r1506778 - /maven/site/trunk/content/markdown/project-roles.md)

2013-07-25 Thread Thomas Broyer
I think I'm with Ron Wheeler here. I'd add though: are you a “Project Manager” if you don't contribute to the project the changes you're doing in a fork? My gut feeling would be “no”, but that'd be ignoring the amount of contributions to the project itself (I know who you're talking about, but I

Re: [DISCUSS] Should the Maven PMC be an example of how we want the Maven Community to behave (was Re: svn commit: r1506778 - /maven/site/trunk/content/markdown/project-roles.md)

2013-07-25 Thread Jason van Zyl
So what's outlined in those paragraphs have counter examples at the ASF. I do not believe it is a bad thing to have alternative distributions or forks, and it doesn't matter where they are. What you are saying is that committers are obliged to share all their work with other committers. Which

Re: [DISCUSS] Should the Maven PMC be an example of how we want the Maven Community to behave (was Re: svn commit: r1506778 - /maven/site/trunk/content/markdown/project-roles.md)

2013-07-25 Thread Stephen Colebourne
The section that was added below has nothing to do with the rest of the document. It should be reverted, as it is basically nonsense as Jason has just pointed out. Maven has lots of other problems. This really doesn't seem like one anyone should be spending any time or energy on. Stephen On

Re: Maven plugin trademarks [Re: Downloading a file for shipping in an artifact]

2013-07-25 Thread Baptiste MATHUS
Hi, For the record, the two pages above were patched. TL;DR *don't name your maven plugin maven-foo-plugin but foo-maven-plugin. Legally compulsory, not just a recommendation.* Cheers Le 12 juin 2013 14:13, Baptiste MATHUS bmat...@batmat.net a écrit : 2013/6/12 Stephen Connolly

Re: [DISCUSS] Should the Maven PMC be an example of how we want the Maven Community to behave (was Re: svn commit: r1506778 - /maven/site/trunk/content/markdown/project-roles.md)

2013-07-25 Thread Stephen Connolly
As part of trying to kick this project back to life, we need to grow both committers and the PMC. One of the issues with growing either is determining if potential candidates are the right sort of person. There is a disagreement in the PMC as to whether dedication to the Maven project community

Re: Preventing Maven from downloading certain versions from external repositories

2013-07-25 Thread Curtis Rueden
Hi Kristian, In a current project, by convention, we use 1.0-LOCAL-SNAPSHOT as the default version for local builds, producing official builds only through our CI server. This works well but during local builds, Maven will needlessly look for these versions in external repositories, slowing

Re: Preventing Maven from downloading certain versions from external repositories

2013-07-25 Thread Vincent Latombe
Hi, I use xxx-LOCAL for this kind of thing, since they are not considered as snapshots, maven won't try everyday to download a new local version. Vincent 2013/7/25 Ron Wheeler rwhee...@artifact-software.com Are you at least proxying the external Maven repos through your own repo. That will

Re: [DISCUSS] Should the Maven PMC be an example of how we want the Maven Community to behave (was Re: svn commit: r1506778 - /maven/site/trunk/content/markdown/project-roles.md)

2013-07-25 Thread Jason van Zyl
On Jul 25, 2013, at 12:03 PM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: As part of trying to kick this project back to life, we need to grow both committers and the PMC. You don't need either. You need people who do work. People who do work may happen to be a committer or

RE: [DISCUSS] Should the Maven PMC be an example of how we want the Maven Community to behave (was Re: svn commit: r1506778 - /maven/site/trunk/content/markdown/project-roles.md)

2013-07-25 Thread Sankaran, Nambi
+1 The candidates should be people who contribute in terms of code/patch. -Original Message- From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:ja...@tesla.io] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 9:56 AM To: Maven Users List Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Should the Maven PMC be an example of how we want the Maven

RE: release prepare with git doesn't finish

2013-07-25 Thread Mirko Friedenhagen
I would suggest using msysgit with plink and pageant for ssh authentication, worked like a charmed for me. On Jul 23, 2013 4:38 PM, Adrien Ruffié adriennolar...@hotmail.fr wrote: Same thing maven chain parameter like ssh://git:adryen31:mypassword@rd1 /myapp.git Just stupid parameters I think

Re: [DISCUSS] Should the Maven PMC be an example of how we want the Maven Community to behave (was Re: svn commit: r1506778 - /maven/site/trunk/content/markdown/project-roles.md)

2013-07-25 Thread Stephen Connolly
The Apache Foundation values Community over Code. Merit is thus not just a question about writing the best code but helping and fostering the community around that code. This in deciding committers we need people who are good enough *both* socially and technically. This can be a mix, eg one very

Re: [DISCUSS] Should the Maven PMC be an example of how we want the Maven Community to behave (was Re: svn commit: r1506778 - /maven/site/trunk/content/markdown/project-roles.md)

2013-07-25 Thread Jason van Zyl
All what-ifs. The decisions, as I said, should be made on the typical 6-12 month period of contribution. Everything is encapsulated there: the code done, how it was introduced, how it was delivered and if there were no issues then that can be the basis to make a decision. Everything outside the

Re: [DISCUSS] Should the Maven PMC be an example of how we want the Maven Community to behave (was Re: svn commit: r1506778 - /maven/site/trunk/content/markdown/project-roles.md)

2013-07-25 Thread Andreas Gudian
I also find it quite odd an almost offensive to the open source community in general to state that a PMC member shall not be allowed to fork too much around. It's not a marriage, you know ;-). I tend to agree with Jason: the PMC needs people who *do* stuff, meaning: * bring the project foward

RE: [DISCUSS] Should the Maven PMC be an example of how we want the Maven Community to behave (was Re: svn commit: r1506778 - /maven/site/trunk/content/markdown/project-roles.md)

2013-07-25 Thread Sankaran, Nambi
This community is created around maven, which is a software (code) written in java. Lot of people use maven (including me) on a daily basis, because of the value it provides. We use it because the code works. Some of the users, eventually become contributors and committers. Just like many

Re: [DISCUSS] Should the Maven PMC be an example of how we want the Maven Community to behave (was Re: svn commit: r1506778 - /maven/site/trunk/content/markdown/project-roles.md)

2013-07-25 Thread Ron Wheeler
+1 On 25/07/2013 11:16 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote: So what's outlined in those paragraphs have counter examples at the ASF. I do not believe it is a bad thing to have alternative distributions or forks, and it doesn't matter where they are. What you are saying is that committers are obliged to

Re: maven surefire - selecting providers

2013-07-25 Thread Andreas Gudian
Well, I guess you found a bug. TestNG should be able to handle JUnit4 tests, and thus the surefire TestNG provider should be able to hand over the tests in a way that TestNG understands what we want it to do. Would you be so kind and file a bug at https://jira.codehaus.org/browse/SUREFIRE? No

Re: [DISCUSS] Should the Maven PMC be an example of how we want the Maven Community to behave (was Re: svn commit: r1506778 - /maven/site/trunk/content/markdown/project-roles.md)

2013-07-25 Thread Ron Wheeler
I gather that the process is a simple vote by the existing members. Perhaps this is one of those things that is best left uncodified and allow each person who has to make the decision to chose their own criteria. Clearly people like to work with people that they find intelligent, people

Re: [DISCUSS] Should the Maven PMC be an example of how we want the Maven Community to behave (was Re: svn commit: r1506778 - /maven/site/trunk/content/markdown/project-roles.md)

2013-07-25 Thread Ron Wheeler
The last thing that you need is a bunch of smart committed people who talk about doing stuff the Apache way but don't actually write code or participate in supporting users. If someone is writing code that works, faster than the rest of the team can read it, you are in a great position. Get

Re: [DISCUSS] Should the Maven PMC be an example of how we want the Maven Community to behave (was Re: svn commit: r1506778 - /maven/site/trunk/content/markdown/project-roles.md)

2013-07-25 Thread Stephen Connolly
On Thursday, 25 July 2013, Ron Wheeler wrote: The last thing that you need is a bunch of smart committed people who talk about doing stuff the Apache way but don't actually write code or participate in supporting users. The key thing is it is not just about writing code. We need people to

Re: Maven / javac does not compile classes to target folder

2013-07-25 Thread Gonfi den Tschal
wayne, thanks a lot for your response, it helped to figure out what's going on. it's indeed javac that aborts (yes aborts, no error, it just quits). something with annotations in enum constructors, it's not reported to the javac mailing list

Re: maven surefire - selecting providers

2013-07-25 Thread Andreas Dolk
I hope it's a bug and that it's easy to fix :) Would be great if I could keep TestNG and use jnario in the same project! Here is the ticket reference: https://jira.codehaus.org/browse/SUREFIRE-1019 Thanks! Andreas 2013/7/25 Andreas Gudian andreas.gud...@gmail.com Well, I guess you found a

Re: Maven / javac does not compile classes to target folder

2013-07-25 Thread Wayne Fay
wayne, thanks a lot for your response, it helped to figure out what's going on. I'm very glad to hear it! i was wondering if maven could detect that javac does not end successfully, and then abort and blame the compilation directly instead of building an I agree this sounds like a

Re: [DISCUSS] Should the Maven PMC be an example of how we want the Maven Community to behave (was Re: svn commit: r1506778 - /maven/site/trunk/content/markdown/project-roles.md)

2013-07-25 Thread Barrie Treloar
On 26 July 2013 03:25, Andreas Gudian andreas.gud...@gmail.com wrote: I tend to agree with Jason: the PMC needs people who *do* stuff, meaning: * bring the project foward (with discussions like this one, or the JDK5/JDK6 threads). * keep a close eye on commits. * keep a very close eye on

Re: [DISCUSS] Should the Maven PMC be an example of how we want the Maven Community to behave (was Re: svn commit: r1506778 - /maven/site/trunk/content/markdown/project-roles.md)

2013-07-25 Thread Baptiste MATHUS
Hi, I think the point is quite simple. I agree with Jason that work should be the main criteria if not the only one. But as Stephen reminds, we should define work in a larger general sense than just code. Working for the community as worshipped by the ASF can be pushing code, sure, but also

Re: [DISCUSS] Should the Maven PMC be an example of how we want the Maven Community to behave (was Re: svn commit: r1506778 - /maven/site/trunk/content/markdown/project-roles.md)

2013-07-25 Thread Stephen Connolly
Perhaps we could reframe the question a little then (as people seem to be testing hung up on the committed wording)... Should the PMC encourage people experimenting on new improvements to Maven to do that work at the ASF? And if so, should they then practice what they preach, and ensure that any

Re: [DISCUSS] Should the Maven PMC be an example of how we want the Maven Community to behave (was Re: svn commit: r1506778 - /maven/site/trunk/content/markdown/project-roles.md)

2013-07-25 Thread Stephen Connolly
On 25 July 2013 22:17, Paul Benedict pbened...@apache.org wrote: Stephen, those are great questions. Yet, I think these questions are riding an assumption that PMC members are solely volunteering at Apache, because the emphasis (as I interpret your words) is to place the Apache project

Re: [DISCUSS] Should the Maven PMC be an example of how we want the Maven Community to behave (was Re: svn commit: r1506778 - /maven/site/trunk/content/markdown/project-roles.md)

2013-07-25 Thread John Casey
On 7/25/13 4:17 PM, Paul Benedict wrote: Stephen, those are great questions. Yet, I think these questions are riding an assumption that PMC members are solely volunteering at Apache, because the emphasis (as I interpret your words) is to place the Apache project first/above other external

Re: [DISCUSS] Should the Maven PMC be an example of how we want the Maven Community to behave (was Re: svn commit: r1506778 - /maven/site/trunk/content/markdown/project-roles.md)

2013-07-25 Thread Paul Benedict
Stephen, those are great questions. Yet, I think these questions are riding an assumption that PMC members are solely volunteering at Apache, because the emphasis (as I interpret your words) is to place the Apache project first/above other external contributions. Isn't that the heart of this

Re: [DISCUSS] Should the Maven PMC be an example of how we want the Maven Community to behave (was Re: svn commit: r1506778 - /maven/site/trunk/content/markdown/project-roles.md)

2013-07-25 Thread Paul Benedict
Agreed. I'll tip my hand and give my opinion: PMC members should have an Apache first mentality. They are gatekeepers and guardians of their project. Spinning off critical code to other OSS organizations should be frowned upon -- it splits the development and wider community into smaller pieces.

RE: [DISCUSS] Should the Maven PMC be an example of how we want the Maven Community to behave (was Re: svn commit: r1506778 - /maven/site/trunk/content/markdown/project-roles.md)

2013-07-25 Thread Martin Gainty
Private Sector Usage of Apache code: Sonatype is the second organization (that I know of) to leverage existing ASF code to engage Paying Customers In last 10 years Paul F (dba WS02) leveraged the entire axis project for Customised SAAS Solutions for HealthCare as well as Financial Services

Re: [DISCUSS] Should the Maven PMC be an example of how we want the Maven Community to behave (was Re: svn commit: r1506778 - /maven/site/trunk/content/markdown/project-roles.md)

2013-07-25 Thread Ron Wheeler
Maven is open source and anyone can do whatever they want with it. That is the whole point of the Apache license. If the code splits off and a new open source product emerges that is better than Maven, then we all win. To prevent this, the Maven PMC has to make the right choices about the

Re: [DISCUSS] Should the Maven PMC be an example of how we want the Maven Community to behave (was Re: svn commit: r1506778 - /maven/site/trunk/content/markdown/project-roles.md)

2013-07-25 Thread Ron Wheeler
On 25/07/2013 5:32 PM, Stephen Connolly wrote: On 25 July 2013 22:17, Paul Benedict pbened...@apache.org wrote: Stephen, those are great questions. Yet, I think these questions are riding an assumption that PMC members are solely volunteering at Apache, because the emphasis (as I interpret

Re: [DISCUSS] Should the Maven PMC be an example of how we want the Maven Community to behave (was Re: svn commit: r1506778 - /maven/site/trunk/content/markdown/project-roles.md)

2013-07-25 Thread Ron Wheeler
On 25/07/2013 5:05 PM, Stephen Connolly wrote: Perhaps we could reframe the question a little then (as people seem to be testing hung up on the committed wording)... Should the PMC encourage people experimenting on new improvements to Maven to do that work at the ASF? And if so, should they