Re: Pure curiosity

2023-11-19 Thread Joseph Kesselman
I'm half asleep right now, so I may be completely confused. Or I may just not from Maven well enough yet. I did say it was half an idea, and might not have been worth posting. Lemme think about it further and see where, if anywhere, it goes. -- /_ Joe Kesselman (he/him/his) -/ _) My Alexa

Re: Pure curiosity

2023-11-19 Thread Tamás Cservenák
Now am very interested where this goes, please continue... T On Mon, Nov 20, 2023, 00:26 Joseph Kesselman wrote: > Maven's declarative nature may be its second greatest strength, following > platform independence and preceding the rich plugin collection. > > The lack of any _dependency_ driven

Pure curiosity

2023-11-19 Thread Joseph Kesselman
How large is the actual Maven core application itself, without even the "standard" plugins? (I've got half an idea and am trying to guess how much work it would be to prototype something.) -- /_ Joe Kesselman (he/him/his) -/ _) My Alexa skill for New Music/New Sounds fans: /

Re: Pure curiosity

2023-11-19 Thread Gary Gregory
Hey Tamas, The big picture here is that we, over at Xalan-J, well, Joe's doing the work, are porting Xalan-J from Ant to Maven. Gary On Sun, Nov 19, 2023, 7:05 PM Tamás Cservenák wrote: > Now am very interested where this goes, please continue... > > T > > On Mon, Nov 20, 2023, 00:26 Joseph

Re: Pure curiosity

2023-11-19 Thread Joseph Kesselman
Maven's declarative nature may be its second greatest strength, following platform independence and preceding the rich plugin collection. The lack of any _dependency_ driven flow below the module level -- apparently typically solved by throwing more modules into the mix just to achieve

Re: Pure curiosity

2023-11-19 Thread Gary Gregory
You can get an idea by downloading the source zip file from https://maven.apache.org/download.cgi and and counting something like Java source files or kilobytes' worth of Java files, or LoCs... FWIW, I see Gradle mentioned here and there in our issues. Using Gradlebwould be a huge mistake IMO...

Re: Pure curiosity

2023-11-19 Thread Gary Gregory
I don't know what issue you're struggling with for the Maven build so we should talk this week or discuss it over email. I don't want to ask you to explain all of this over email if it's quicker to explain via voice. Maybe we can start with: Where is the Maven build and what's the current hurdle?