Re: Still unable to get a heap dump from Tomcat running on Windows as a service

2010-02-04 Thread André Warnier
Laird Nelson wrote: Another data point: people have told me to download the Windows .zip distribution of Tomcat 6.0.24. I want to point out that this is not linked anywhere on the Tomcat download page. The *base* distribution is of course linked, and the .exe self-extracting-installer package,

Re: Still unable to get a heap dump from Tomcat running on Windows as a service

2010-02-04 Thread Mark Thomas
On 04/02/2010 08:43, André Warnier wrote: Laird Nelson wrote: Another data point: people have told me to download the Windows .zip distribution of Tomcat 6.0.24. I want to point out that this is not linked anywhere on the Tomcat download page. The *base* distribution is of course linked,

Re: Still unable to get a heap dump from Tomcat running on Windows as a service

2010-02-04 Thread Domenico Marzilli
Mark, please could you provide the .exe self-extracting-installer package for x64 (apache-tomcat-6.0.24-windows-x64.exe), too? Tnx - Original Message - From: Mark Thomas ma...@apache.org To: Tomcat Users List users@tomcat.apache.org Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 10:57 AM

Re: Still unable to get a heap dump from Tomcat running on Windows as a service

2010-02-04 Thread Mark Thomas
On 04/02/2010 10:27, Domenico Marzilli wrote: Mark, please could you provide the .exe self-extracting-installer package for x64 (apache-tomcat-6.0.24-windows-x64.exe), too? The .exe installer works for both 32 and 64 bit windows. Mark Tnx - Original Message - From: Mark

Re: Still unable to get a heap dump from Tomcat running on Windows as a service

2010-02-04 Thread Laird Nelson
And the whole thing was a red herring. Well, most of it anyway. The buggy download page wasn't, and, indeed, the GUI monitor cannot change Tomcat's run as user despite pretending that it can, but those are comparatively minor issues. I'm sure that had Tomcat actually run out of memory, it

Re: Still unable to get a heap dump from Tomcat running on Windows as a service

2010-02-03 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chuck, On 2/2/2010 6:59 PM, Caldarale, Charles R wrote: From: André Warnier [mailto:a...@ice-sa.com] Subject: Re: Still unable to get a heap dump from Tomcat running on Windows as a service I guess that phrases like that one explain why one

RE: Still unable to get a heap dump from Tomcat running on Windows as a service

2010-02-03 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
From: Laird Nelson [mailto:ljnel...@gmail.com] Subject: Re: Still unable to get a heap dump from Tomcat running on Windows as a service turns out no matter what you do through the GUI console, the service still runs as the system account Yes, I mentioned that a few days ago: BTW, on

RE: Still unable to get a heap dump from Tomcat running on Windows as a service

2010-02-03 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
From: Christopher Schultz [mailto:ch...@christopherschultz.net] Subject: Re: Still unable to get a heap dump from Tomcat running on Windowsas a service Would you prefer software warlock? I consider software to be a black art, as opposed to a fine one. That would certainly be closer to the

Re: Still unable to get a heap dump from Tomcat running on Windows as a service

2010-02-03 Thread Laird Nelson
Another data point: people have told me to download the Windows .zip distribution of Tomcat 6.0.24. I want to point out that this is not linked anywhere on the Tomcat download page. The *base* distribution is of course linked, and the .exe self-extracting-installer package, but I had to manually

Re: Still unable to get a heap dump from Tomcat running on Windows as a service

2010-02-03 Thread Laird Nelson
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 9:28 PM, Laird Nelson ljnel...@gmail.com wrote: Another data point: people have told me to download the Windows .zip distribution of Tomcat 6.0.24. I want to point out that this is not linked anywhere on the Tomcat download page. The *base* distribution is of course

Still unable to get a heap dump from Tomcat running on Windows as a service

2010-02-02 Thread Laird Nelson
I am still unable to get Tomcat to dump heap when it encounters an OutOfMemoryError. My StackOverflow topic sums up what I've tried so far: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2172220/can-i-get-tomcat-running-as-a-service-to-dump-heap I'm using the graphical program that comes up when you select

RE: Still unable to get a heap dump from Tomcat running on Windows as a service

2010-02-02 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
From: Laird Nelson [mailto:ljnel...@gmail.com] Subject: Still unable to get a heap dump from Tomcat running on Windows as a service I am still unable to get Tomcat to dump heap when it encounters an OutOfMemoryError. You appear to be unique in that regard, since no one else seems to be

RE: Still unable to get a heap dump from Tomcat running on Windows as a service

2010-02-02 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
From: Caldarale, Charles R Subject: RE: Still unable to get a heap dump from Tomcat running on Windows as a service I would try removing the existing Tomcat service, reinstalling the current (6.0.24) Tomcat from the .zip download I would also create a bin/setenv.bat script to set the

Re: Still unable to get a heap dump from Tomcat running on Windows as a service

2010-02-02 Thread Laird Nelson
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 4:19 PM, Caldarale, Charles R chuck.caldar...@unisys.com wrote: From: Laird Nelson [mailto:ljnel...@gmail.com] Subject: Still unable to get a heap dump from Tomcat running on Windows as a service I am still unable to get Tomcat to dump heap when it encounters an

RE: Still unable to get a heap dump from Tomcat running on Windows as a service

2010-02-02 Thread Sateesh Narahari
The default user account 'System' has some weird permission state on Windows, so try the admin user. Also, review the event log ( Windows Log, Security ) if it yields any information. I believe you can also download resource kit from Microsoft that has tools that lets you watch all objects

RE: Still unable to get a heap dump from Tomcat running on Windows as a service

2010-02-02 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
From: Laird Nelson [mailto:ljnel...@gmail.com] Subject: Re: Still unable to get a heap dump from Tomcat running on Windows as a service The one selected by default when one chooses the Log On tab of the graphical Tomcat monitor. The value of the label is: Local System account. That radio

Re: Still unable to get a heap dump from Tomcat running on Windows as a service

2010-02-02 Thread Laird Nelson
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Sateesh Narahari sateesh.narah...@gmail.com wrote: The default user account 'System' has some weird permission state on Windows, so try the admin user. OK; leery of running my Tomcat as the administrator, but am not up to speed on which Windows users would be

Re: Still unable to get a heap dump from Tomcat running on Windows as a service

2010-02-02 Thread Laird Nelson
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Caldarale, Charles R chuck.caldar...@unisys.com wrote: That's not a user account, that's the system account, with pretty much no privileges to do anything. ...which is pretty much how I like it. :-) I'm not a Windows guy, so bear with me for a moment: since

RE: Still unable to get a heap dump from Tomcat running on Windows as a service

2010-02-02 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
From: Laird Nelson [mailto:ljnel...@gmail.com] Subject: Re: Still unable to get a heap dump from Tomcat running on Windows as a service I'm not a Windows guy, so bear with me for a moment: I'm not sure there's anyone who really understands Windows security. Or is there some other

Re: Still unable to get a heap dump from Tomcat running on Windows as a service

2010-02-02 Thread André Warnier
Laird Nelson wrote: On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Sateesh Narahari sateesh.narah...@gmail.com wrote: The default user account 'System' has some weird permission state on Windows, so try the admin user. OK; leery of running my Tomcat as the administrator, but am not up to speed on which

Re: Still unable to get a heap dump from Tomcat running on Windows as a service

2010-02-02 Thread Peter Crowther
On 2 February 2010 21:48, Laird Nelson ljnel...@gmail.com wrote: OK; leery of running my Tomcat as the administrator, but am not up to speed on which Windows users would be better choices.  I naturally assumed that the local user selected by default was appropriate. LocalSystem can impersonate

RE: Still unable to get a heap dump from Tomcat running on Windows as a service

2010-02-02 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
From: Caldarale, Charles R Subject: RE: Still unable to get a heap dump from Tomcat running on Windows as a service I just tried forcing an OOME dump with Tomcat running under the Local System Account - and it worked. This is under Vista 64, not Server 2K3, and starting with the .zip

Re: Still unable to get a heap dump from Tomcat running on Windows as a service

2010-02-02 Thread André Warnier
Caldarale, Charles R wrote: ... You might try changing your log level and see if something interesting shows up. I guess that phrases like that one explain why one talks about the Art of computer programming, and not the Science of ditto. That, along with the fact that in this thread, the

Re: Still unable to get a heap dump from Tomcat running on Windows as a service

2010-02-02 Thread Filip Hanik - Dev Lists
set the HeapDumpPath option, so you can actually write to a location on disk On 02/02/2010 02:19 PM, Caldarale, Charles R wrote: From: Laird Nelson [mailto:ljnel...@gmail.com] Subject: Still unable to get a heap dump from Tomcat running on Windows as a service I am still unable to get Tomcat

RE: Still unable to get a heap dump from Tomcat running on Windows as a service

2010-02-02 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
From: André Warnier [mailto:a...@ice-sa.com] Subject: Re: Still unable to get a heap dump from Tomcat running on Windows as a service I guess that phrases like that one explain why one talks about the Art of computer programming, and not the Science of ditto. Knuth knew whereof he spoke.

RE: Still unable to get a heap dump from Tomcat running on Windows as a service

2010-02-02 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
From: Filip Hanik - Dev Lists [mailto:devli...@hanik.com] Subject: Re: Still unable to get a heap dump from Tomcat running on Windows as a service set the HeapDumpPath option, so you can actually write to a location on disk You're late to the party; that's already been tried, to no

Re: Still unable to get a heap dump from Tomcat running on Windows as a service

2010-02-02 Thread Laird Nelson
Thanks for sticking with me, guys. No luck so far. I will begin the laborious process of requesting a reinstall. :-( (Incidentally, no service logs either, anywhere; this is all very bizarre.) L On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 7:01 PM, Caldarale, Charles R chuck.caldar...@unisys.com wrote: From: