Re: [libreoffice-users] Page Numbers in TOC

[Ian Whitfield]

Sorry - My mistake. Thanks Piet!!


On 08/26/2017 09:27 AM, Piet van Oostrum wrote:

Ian Whitfield  writes:


Hi All

I have been watching this thread and hoping a problem I have with this
might be mentioned!!

I produce a monthly "Journal" and also make use of the TOC to list the
contents. It works fairly well (with a bit of editing) but the one
problem I have is as follows.

The first two pages of the SLA document are the Front Cover and the
Inside of the Front Cover so my actual content starts on the third Page.
However Scribus' TOC works on the actual Page Count so all the listed
pages are two pages out and I need to edit each line of the TOC to
correct this. Is there any way for the TOC to be set to do this
automatically?


Are you talking about Scribus or LibreOffice (LO)? This list is about
LO. If you mean LO, then you should use a different page style for the
first two pages and reset the page count on the third one.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Page Numbers in TOC

[Piet van Oostrum]

Ian Whitfield  writes:

> Hi All
>
> I have been watching this thread and hoping a problem I have with this
> might be mentioned!!
>
> I produce a monthly "Journal" and also make use of the TOC to list the
> contents. It works fairly well (with a bit of editing) but the one
> problem I have is as follows.
>
> The first two pages of the SLA document are the Front Cover and the
> Inside of the Front Cover so my actual content starts on the third Page.
> However Scribus' TOC works on the actual Page Count so all the listed
> pages are two pages out and I need to edit each line of the TOC to
> correct this. Is there any way for the TOC to be set to do this
> automatically?
>
Are you talking about Scribus or LibreOffice (LO)? This list is about
LO. If you mean LO, then you should use a different page style for the
first two pages and reset the page count on the third one.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Page Numbers in TOC

[Ian Whitfield]

Hi All

I have been watching this thread and hoping a problem I have with this 
might be mentioned!!


I produce a monthly "Journal" and also make use of the TOC to list the 
contents. It works fairly well (with a bit of editing) but the one 
problem I have is as follows.


The first two pages of the SLA document are the Front Cover and the 
Inside of the Front Cover so my actual content starts on the third Page. 
However Scribus' TOC works on the actual Page Count so all the listed 
pages are two pages out and I need to edit each line of the TOC to 
correct this. Is there any way for the TOC to be set to do this 
automatically?


Thanks for any and all suggestions.

IanW
Pretoria RSA


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Page Numbers in TOC

[Krunose]

On 18.08.2017 17:21, Jonathan Allen wrote:

K,


But I get what you want in automatic TOC. Have one page style for
Arabic numbers, and one page style for roman numerals.

Yes, I have have set of page styles for roman page numbers and one set
for arabic page numbers.


I set page number format when creating or editing page style. In tab
Page (right click on page style and choose modify) set roman
numerals in filed Page numbers. Do respectively for Arabic numbers.

Where abouts is this in the menus/tabs?  I'm running LO 5.1.6.2 on Linux
Mint - Sarah.

F11 gets up the style table.  Select page styles, then right click the
roman number page style and select 'Modify'. I can't see anything on
the tabs to set the page number style.  Is it Organiser/Page/Area/
Transparency/Header/Footer/Borders/Columns/Footnote?



It's tab 'Page', as mentioned in my previous message. That tab has drop 
down with page number types (right side of dialog window; filed 'Page 
numbers').




I actually set
the page number format to lower-case roman when I put the page number
field in the footer with Insert->Field->More Fields and chose the
format I wanted.


And in my experience - that's the problem.



Just insert TOC.

Arabic numbers.

Jonathan




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Page Numbers in TOC

[Jonathan Allen]

K,

> But I get what you want in automatic TOC. Have one page style for
> Arabic numbers, and one page style for roman numerals.

Yes, I have have set of page styles for roman page numbers and one set
for arabic page numbers.

> I set page number format when creating or editing page style. In tab
> Page (right click on page style and choose modify) set roman
> numerals in filed Page numbers. Do respectively for Arabic numbers.

Where abouts is this in the menus/tabs?  I'm running LO 5.1.6.2 on Linux
Mint - Sarah.

F11 gets up the style table.  Select page styles, then right click the
roman number page style and select 'Modify'.  I can't see anything on
the tabs to set the page number style.  Is it Organiser/Page/Area/
Transparency/Header/Footer/Borders/Columns/Footnote?  I actually set
the page number format to lower-case roman when I put the page number
field in the footer with Insert->Field->More Fields and chose the
format I wanted.

> Just insert TOC.

Arabic numbers.

Jonathan

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Page Numbers in TOC

[Krunose]

On 18.08.2017 16:23, Jonathan Allen wrote:

Dear K,


Ups, you need roman page numbers, not indication of heading level.
What tripped me is that it works without problem in my set up so I
made wrong assumption when skimming the text.

Yes, that's right.  I actually want the roman number 'iii' to appear in
the automatic TOC as it does on the page being referenced.  Now the strange
thing is that if I insert a bookmark on that page and put the bookmark
reference in a manual TOC, it gets the roman number bit right.  So why
can't the automatic TOC?

Jonathan



But I get what you want in automatic TOC. Have one page style for Arabic 
numbers, and one page style for roman numerals.


I set page number format when creating or editing page style. In tab 
Page (right click on page style and choose modify) set roman numerals in 
filed Page numbers. Do respectively for Arabic numbers.


Just insert TOC.

Maybe your page styles are not designed right?

I'm using 5.3.3 on GNU/Linux. Maybe is that particular document. What do 
you get when try to do that on a brand new document?


K

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Page Numbers in TOC

[Jonathan Allen]

Dear K,

> Ups, you need roman page numbers, not indication of heading level.
> What tripped me is that it works without problem in my set up so I
> made wrong assumption when skimming the text.

Yes, that's right.  I actually want the roman number 'iii' to appear in
the automatic TOC as it does on the page being referenced.  Now the strange
thing is that if I insert a bookmark on that page and put the bookmark
reference in a manual TOC, it gets the roman number bit right.  So why
can't the automatic TOC?

Jonathan

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Page Numbers in TOC

[Krunose]

On 18.08.2017 15:57, Krunose wrote:

On 18.08.2017 11:41, Jonathan Allen wrote:

Hi All,

Why doesn't the page number format in the TOC follow the page numbers
on the pages?  I have a series of roman-numerated pages (i-xiii)
followed by a block of conventional pages (1-...).  The TOC has an
H1 entry for a roman page with the correct number, but shown as '3'
rather than 'iii'.  How do I fix this?

Jonathan



First make custom numbering style and set numbers to be lower numerals.

Make new paragraph style that you will use on pages where you have 
roman numerals as page numbers. You can base that custom style on the 
style you're currently using.


When making new paragraph style, in tab Outline and numbering choose 
numbering style you've made from a drop down in field Numbering style.


Use that paragraph style on pages with roman numerals.

When inserting table of contents, check Additional styles from a 
dialog window. Click Add styles. Move your custom style to level one. 
Click OK.


-

If you set everything as said here - you'll get desired results. Just 
remember, your newly created style will just look like Heading 1, but 
will actually be at text body level. That's a trade-off. If you set 
custom style to level one in Tools → Outline and numbering, you won't 
be able to use Heading 1.


It's not that complicated, just need to understand how the whole 
system work.


There's more to it, more could be done, but this should suffice. More 
explaining equals more complexity and more chance to get/do something 
wrong.


Kruno



Ups, you need roman page numbers, not indication of heading level. What 
tripped me is that it works without problem in my set up so I made wrong 
assumption when skimming the text.


K


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Page Numbers in TOC

[Krunose]

On 18.08.2017 11:41, Jonathan Allen wrote:

Hi All,

Why doesn't the page number format in the TOC follow the page numbers
on the pages?  I have a series of roman-numerated pages (i-xiii)
followed by a block of conventional pages (1-...).  The TOC has an
H1 entry for a roman page with the correct number, but shown as '3'
rather than 'iii'.  How do I fix this?

Jonathan



First make custom numbering style and set numbers to be lower numerals.

Make new paragraph style that you will use on pages where you have roman 
numerals as page numbers. You can base that custom style on the style 
you're currently using.


When making new paragraph style, in tab Outline and numbering choose 
numbering style you've made from a drop down in field Numbering style.


Use that paragraph style on pages with roman numerals.

When inserting table of contents, check Additional styles from a dialog 
window. Click Add styles. Move your custom style to level one. Click OK.


-

If you set everything as said here - you'll get desired results. Just 
remember, your newly created style will just look like Heading 1, but 
will actually be at text body level. That's a trade-off. If you set 
custom style to level one in Tools → Outline and numbering, you won't be 
able to use Heading 1.


It's not that complicated, just need to understand how the whole system 
work.


There's more to it, more could be done, but this should suffice. More 
explaining equals more complexity and more chance to get/do something wrong.


Kruno

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