Re: [users] How to insert a math formula into a text frame?
Hi all, mike scott wrote: On 10 Aug 2008 at 21:13, Louis-H Desouvrey wrote: ... Let's me clarify. When I am in OOo Writer, I can't insert a formula into a text box (created by clicking the T button in the Draw toolbar...). As you put it, the option Insert Object Formula is greyed out. Copy and paste are greyed out as well. In OOo Draw this option is enabled (i.e., it is not greyed out), but I can't group a formula with other drawings (a line, a triangle, etc.). XP-SP2,OOo 2.4.1. Perhaps I misunderstand, but you seem to want a floating entity containg some text, and within that entity, you want a formula object. AFAICS the only way to achieve that is within Writer - make a /frame/ (Insert | Frame) and put your text within it, and you'll find you can also - within that frame - do an Insert | Object | Formula. The inserted formula is then truly within the frame, and can be anchored or wrapped as any other object. (You can also flow text between such frames, btw.) A text /box/ is a different sort of beast but available within Draw and Writer. As you remark, Insert|Object doesn't work in Writer while the cursor is within a text box. If you use it in Draw to attempt to insert something in a text box, you get an independent object, not attached to the text box at all. I suspect this isn't what you want. Incidentally, it does seem possible to group (in Draw) a formula object with other things. Try putting a formula and a graphic onto the page, then use the cursor to drag a large selection box round both, for example. Both will be selected, and can be, for example, grouped together or aligned. (This won't work in Writer, however.) Hope this helps. If not, perhaps you could clarify what you're trying to achieve on the page - there may be a totally different approach. (Replies to list only please) Maybe you just wnat to have numbered formulas? In the case try the auto-text 'fn'. (Enter fn and press F3) Regards, Thomas - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] How to insert a math formula into a text frame?
2008/8/12 Louis-H Desouvrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] mike scott wrote: On 10 Aug 2008 at 21:13, Louis-H Desouvrey wrote: ... Let's me clarify. When I am in OOo Writer, I can't insert a formula into a text box (created by clicking the T button in the Draw toolbar...). As you put it, the option Insert Object Formula is greyed out. Copy and paste are greyed out as well. In OOo Draw this option is enabled (i.e., it is not greyed out), but I can't group a formula with other drawings (a line, a triangle, etc.). XP-SP2,OOo 2.4.1. Perhaps I misunderstand, but you seem to want a floating entity containg some text, and within that entity, you want a formula object. AFAICS the only way to achieve that is within Writer - make a /frame/ (Insert | Frame) and put your text within it, and you'll find you can also - within that frame - do an Insert | Object | Formula. The inserted formula is then truly within the frame, and can be anchored or wrapped as any other object. (You can also flow text between such frames, btw.) A text /box/ is a different sort of beast but available within Draw and Writer. As you remark, Insert|Object doesn't work in Writer while the cursor is within a text box. If you use it in Draw to attempt to insert something in a text box, you get an independent object, not attached to the text box at all. I suspect this isn't what you want. Incidentally, it does seem possible to group (in Draw) a formula object with other things. Try putting a formula and a graphic onto the page, then use the cursor to drag a large selection box round both, for example. Both will be selected, and can be, for example, grouped together or aligned. (This won't work in Writer, however.) Hope this helps. If not, perhaps you could clarify what you're trying to achieve on the page - there may be a totally different approach. (Replies to list only please) Now it is clear to me that I have been using the Writer Draw Functions incorrectly. It is much more simple to draw objects inside a frame (Insert Frame). As suggested to me, I can write the text, edit the formula, and draw the lines. No need to group, they stick together inside the frame, which apparently can be edited, moved, anchored, etc., without modifying its contents. I can even take off the borders of the frame. The suggestions were very helpful. Thank you to everyone Louis-H Desouvrey I also want to thank everyone. I played around with it and found it very useful! So I actually learned something new today? Yes, I sure did! Thanks!
Re: [users] How to insert a math formula into a text frame?
On 10 Aug 2008 at 21:13, Louis-H Desouvrey wrote: ... Let's me clarify. When I am in OOo Writer, I can't insert a formula into a text box (created by clicking the T button in the Draw toolbar...). As you put it, the option Insert Object Formula is greyed out. Copy and paste are greyed out as well. In OOo Draw this option is enabled (i.e., it is not greyed out), but I can't group a formula with other drawings (a line, a triangle, etc.). XP-SP2,OOo 2.4.1. Perhaps I misunderstand, but you seem to want a floating entity containg some text, and within that entity, you want a formula object. AFAICS the only way to achieve that is within Writer - make a /frame/ (Insert | Frame) and put your text within it, and you'll find you can also - within that frame - do an Insert | Object | Formula. The inserted formula is then truly within the frame, and can be anchored or wrapped as any other object. (You can also flow text between such frames, btw.) A text /box/ is a different sort of beast but available within Draw and Writer. As you remark, Insert|Object doesn't work in Writer while the cursor is within a text box. If you use it in Draw to attempt to insert something in a text box, you get an independent object, not attached to the text box at all. I suspect this isn't what you want. Incidentally, it does seem possible to group (in Draw) a formula object with other things. Try putting a formula and a graphic onto the page, then use the cursor to drag a large selection box round both, for example. Both will be selected, and can be, for example, grouped together or aligned. (This won't work in Writer, however.) Hope this helps. If not, perhaps you could clarify what you're trying to achieve on the page - there may be a totally different approach. (Replies to list only please) -- Permission for this mail to be processed by any third party in connection with marketing or advertising purposes is hereby explicitly denied. http://www.scottsonline.org.uk lists incoming sites blocked because of spam [EMAIL PROTECTED]Mike Scott, Harlow, Essex, England - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] How to insert a math formula into a text frame?
I personally feel that the formula object is not very flexible. In writer I can't even group it to a text box and I found that there is a lot of other things that seems to be impossible too. Maybe we should collect all the things we want and make a wish list to report as a wish for enhancements. Or maybe OpenOffice.org 3.0 does this far better, making a wish list unnecessary? J.R.
Re: [users] How to insert a math formula into a text frame?
On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 13:02:11 +0200 Johnny Rosenberg wrote: I personally feel that the formula object is not very flexible. In writer I can't even group it to a text box and I found that there is a lot of other things that seems to be impossible too. Maybe we should collect all the things we want and make a wish list to report as a wish for enhancements. Or maybe OpenOffice.org 3.0 does this far better, making a wish list unnecessary? In my experience Requests For Enhancements should not be grouped together. One RFE per feature request allows it to be folloed to conclusion separately. One should check it has not been asked for before adding a RFE. Then bring the number of the RFE back to this list if you want others to vote for it. Straw polls on the mailing list are not relevant to developers. -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] How to insert a math formula into a text frame?
2008/8/11 Michael Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 13:02:11 +0200 Johnny Rosenberg wrote: I personally feel that the formula object is not very flexible. In writer I can't even group it to a text box and I found that there is a lot of other things that seems to be impossible too. Maybe we should collect all the things we want and make a wish list to report as a wish for enhancements. Or maybe OpenOffice.org 3.0 does this far better, making a wish list unnecessary? In my experience Requests For Enhancements should not be grouped together. One RFE per feature request allows it to be folloed to conclusion separately. One should check it has not been asked for before adding a RFE. Then bring the number of the RFE back to this list if you want others to vote for it. Straw polls on the mailing list are not relevant to developers. -- Michael Thanks for the advice. J.R. All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] How to insert a math formula into a text frame?
mike scott wrote: On 10 Aug 2008 at 21:13, Louis-H Desouvrey wrote: ... Let's me clarify. When I am in OOo Writer, I can't insert a formula into a text box (created by clicking the T button in the Draw toolbar...). As you put it, the option Insert Object Formula is greyed out. Copy and paste are greyed out as well. In OOo Draw this option is enabled (i.e., it is not greyed out), but I can't group a formula with other drawings (a line, a triangle, etc.). XP-SP2,OOo 2.4.1. Perhaps I misunderstand, but you seem to want a floating entity containg some text, and within that entity, you want a formula object. AFAICS the only way to achieve that is within Writer - make a /frame/ (Insert | Frame) and put your text within it, and you'll find you can also - within that frame - do an Insert | Object | Formula. The inserted formula is then truly within the frame, and can be anchored or wrapped as any other object. (You can also flow text between such frames, btw.) A text /box/ is a different sort of beast but available within Draw and Writer. As you remark, Insert|Object doesn't work in Writer while the cursor is within a text box. If you use it in Draw to attempt to insert something in a text box, you get an independent object, not attached to the text box at all. I suspect this isn't what you want. Incidentally, it does seem possible to group (in Draw) a formula object with other things. Try putting a formula and a graphic onto the page, then use the cursor to drag a large selection box round both, for example. Both will be selected, and can be, for example, grouped together or aligned. (This won't work in Writer, however.) Hope this helps. If not, perhaps you could clarify what you're trying to achieve on the page - there may be a totally different approach. (Replies to list only please) Now it is clear to me that I have been using the Writer Draw Functions incorrectly. It is much more simple to draw objects inside a frame (Insert Frame). As suggested to me, I can write the text, edit the formula, and draw the lines. No need to group, they stick together inside the frame, which apparently can be edited, moved, anchored, etc., without modifying its contents. I can even take off the borders of the frame. The suggestions were very helpful. Thank you to everyone Louis-H Desouvrey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] How to insert a math formula into a text frame?
Wade Smart wrote:
James Knott wrote:
louis wrote:
James Knott wrote:
Louis-H Desouvrey wrote:
Hi,
I need to put a math formula (e.g. widevec{?}) into a text frame
from
the draw functions.
Is there a way to do it in the current version of OOo?
Thanks!
Yes. When in the text box, click on Insert Object Formula.
This will open the math editor, where you can create the desired
formula.
It doesn't work. When I am in a text frame from the draw functions,
the menu insert object formula and all other options are
disabled. I can't use either copy and paste.
Curious, it works here on both Linux and Windows versions.
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I just tried it and it works fine - Im on Ubuntu (linux).
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What version of OpenOffice are you running on what operating system. How
much RAM and what type of processor do you have, we can then try and see
if there is anything different about that version on that system.
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Re: [users] How to insert a math formula into a text frame?
hello, I have encounter the same trouble as Louis. see the link, I have upload a sample doc at mediafire. In this document, I just wanted to group all elements into a whole, but the formula element refused to join. http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=a7eb93d843c677e6d2db6fb9a8902bda
Re: [users] How to insert a math formula into a text frame?
Doesn't work for me either: OpenOffice.org 2.4.1 Ubuntu 8.04 The Insert → Object is grayed out. I have tried with rectangle and text box. Same result in both cases. J.R.
Re: [users] How to insert a math formula into a text frame?
Sorry, the link should be: http://www.mediafire.com/?0aanca3iafg On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Xiang Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello, I have encounter the same trouble as Louis. see the link, I have upload a sample doc at mediafire. In this document, I just wanted to group all elements into a whole, but the formula element refused to join. http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=a7eb93d843c677e6d2db6fb9a8902bda
Re: [users] How to insert a math formula into a text frame?
2008/8/10 Xiang Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry, the link should be: http://www.mediafire.com/?0aanca3iafg That's the document I tried. On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Xiang Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello, I have encounter the same trouble as Louis. see the link, I have upload a sample doc at mediafire. In this document, I just wanted to group all elements into a whole, but the formula element refused to join. http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=a7eb93d843c677e6d2db6fb9a8902bda
Re: [users] How to insert a math formula into a text frame?
On 7 Aug 2008 at 14:43, Louis-H Desouvrey wrote:
Hi,
I need to put a math formula (e.g. widevec{?}) into a text frame from
the draw functions.
Is there a way to do it in the current version of OOo?
Thanks!
This may depend on whether you're working in Writer or Draw. The
option (Insert|Object|Formula) is greyed out in Writer's text box,
but seems to work in Draw. Might explain why some say it works, some
say not. XP/2.4.1, BTW.
(Gets out soapbox and mutters about consistency.)
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Re: [users] How to insert a math formula into a text frame?
mike scott wrote:
On 7 Aug 2008 at 14:43, Louis-H Desouvrey wrote:
Hi,
I need to put a math formula (e.g. widevec{?}) into a text frame from
the draw functions.
Is there a way to do it in the current version of OOo?
Thanks!
This may depend on whether you're working in Writer or Draw. The
option (Insert|Object|Formula) is greyed out in Writer's text box,
but seems to work in Draw. Might explain why some say it works, some
say not. XP/2.4.1, BTW.
A text box in Writer??? The math editor works in both Writer and a Draw
text box for me, on both Linux XP.
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Re: [users] How to insert a math formula into a text frame?
On 10 Aug 2008 at 10:09, James Knott wrote:
mike scott wrote:
On 7 Aug 2008 at 14:43, Louis-H Desouvrey wrote:
Hi,
I need to put a math formula (e.g. widevec{?}) into a text frame from
the draw functions.
Is there a way to do it in the current version of OOo?
Thanks!
This may depend on whether you're working in Writer or Draw. The
option (Insert|Object|Formula) is greyed out in Writer's text box,
but seems to work in Draw. Might explain why some say it works, some
say not. XP/2.4.1, BTW.
A text box in Writer??? The math editor works in both Writer and a Draw
text box for me, on both Linux XP.
???
Now I was confused when I replied - I'm always muddling text /boxes/
and text /frames/ -- and I now see the OP explicitly said /frame/
(and implied Draw for that matter - I really must remember to read
well before replying :-) ). If he meant /frame/, he must have been
using Writer (using Insert|Frame) - afaik Draw doesn't allow text
frames(*). And in this case a formula object appears to be insertable
into a text /frame/ in the obvious way and behaves as part of the
frame.
If he meant text /box/ (ie the thing you get by clicking the T in the
drawing tools bar), then my comment stands - with cursor inside the
text box, in Writer, the Insert|Object menu entries are greyed out,
while in Draw they're available -- but an inserted formula has its
own existance separate from the text box. I can't see why your
mileage should be so different :-(
Perhaps the OP could clarify what he wants to achieve? Is this in
Draw or Writer, and was it a text frame or a text box?
(*) If I'm wrong here, please enlighten me!
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Re: [users] How to insert a math formula into a text frame?
mike scott wrote: If he meant text /box/ (ie the thing you get by clicking the T in the drawing tools bar), then my comment stands - with cursor inside the text box, in Writer, the Insert|Object menu entries are greyed out, while in Draw they're available -- but an inserted formula has its own existance separate from the text box. I can't see why your mileage should be so different :-( Perhaps the OP could clarify what he wants to achieve? Is this in Draw or Writer, and was it a text frame or a text box? (*) If I'm wrong here, please enlighten me! As I did yesterday, in Draw, I click on the T and draw a text box. With the cursor in that box, I can insert items, including a formula. I can do this on both Linux Windows versions of OO. I don't have any idea why it doesn't work for you or the OP. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] How to insert a math formula into a text frame?
Louis-H:
On Thu, Aug 07, 2008 at 02:43:06PM -0400, Louis-H Desouvrey wrote:
Hi,
I need to put a math formula (e.g. widevec{?}) into a text frame from
the draw functions.
Is there a way to do it in the current version of OOo?
Thanks!
It is not clear to me what you mean by inserting the formula from the
draw functions, but if it means placing a formula into a text frame,
and possibly copy/pasting into a drawing then it is easily done:
Create a frame in a text document.
Select the frame
Insert the formula using the formula editor
Copy the frame
Paste into the drawing.
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Re: [users] How to insert a math formula into a text frame?
On 10 Aug 2008 at 11:22, James Knott wrote: ... As I did yesterday, in Draw, I click on the T and draw a text box. With the cursor in that box, I can insert items, including a formula. I can do this on both Linux Windows versions of OO. I don't have any idea why it doesn't work for you or the OP. But that's not actually in the text box. Which will matter when the box is moved and the formula doesn't move with it. And in Writer? Maybe I'm confused, but I'm almost sure someone said they could do this in both. But I really think the OP needs to clarify exactly what he did and what he wants to achieve. As I said, he talks about drawing tools and text /frames/ (not boxes). Which kind of implies he's using writer and writer's tools. -- Permission for this mail to be processed by any third party in connection with marketing or advertising purposes is hereby explicitly denied. http://www.scottsonline.org.uk lists incoming sites blocked because of spam [EMAIL PROTECTED]Mike Scott, Harlow, Essex, England - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] How to insert a math formula into a text frame?
mike scott wrote:
On 7 Aug 2008 at 14:43, Louis-H Desouvrey wrote:
Hi,
I need to put a math formula (e.g. widevec{?}) into a text frame from
the draw functions.
Is there a way to do it in the current version of OOo?
Thanks!
This may depend on whether you're working in Writer or Draw. The
option (Insert|Object|Formula) is greyed out in Writer's text box,
but seems to work in Draw. Might explain why some say it works, some
say not. XP/2.4.1, BTW.
(Gets out soapbox and mutters about consistency.)
Let's me clarify. When I am in OOo Writer, I can't insert a formula into
a text box (created by clicking the T button in the Draw toolbar...). As
you put it, the option Insert Object Formula is greyed out. Copy and
paste are greyed out as well.
In OOo Draw this option is enabled (i.e., it is not greyed out), but I
can't group a formula with other drawings (a line, a triangle, etc.).
XP-SP2,OOo 2.4.1.
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Re: [users] How to insert a math formula into a text frame?
Louis-H Desouvrey wrote:
Hi,
I need to put a math formula (e.g. widevec{?}) into a text frame from
the draw functions.
Is there a way to do it in the current version of OOo?
Thanks!
Yes. When in the text box, click on Insert Object Formula. This
will open the math editor, where you can create the desired formula.
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Re: [users] How to insert a math formula into a text frame?
James Knott wrote:
Louis-H Desouvrey wrote:
Hi,
I need to put a math formula (e.g. widevec{?}) into a text frame from
the draw functions.
Is there a way to do it in the current version of OOo?
Thanks!
Yes. When in the text box, click on Insert Object Formula. This
will open the math editor, where you can create the desired formula.
It doesn't work. When I am in a text frame from the draw functions, the
menu insert object formula and all other options are disabled. I
can't use either copy and paste.
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Re: [users] How to insert a math formula into a text frame?
louis wrote:
James Knott wrote:
Louis-H Desouvrey wrote:
Hi,
I need to put a math formula (e.g. widevec{?}) into a text frame from
the draw functions.
Is there a way to do it in the current version of OOo?
Thanks!
Yes. When in the text box, click on Insert Object Formula. This
will open the math editor, where you can create the desired formula.
It doesn't work. When I am in a text frame from the draw functions,
the menu insert object formula and all other options are
disabled. I can't use either copy and paste.
Curious, it works here on both Linux and Windows versions.
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Re: [users] How to insert a math formula into a text frame?
James Knott wrote:
louis wrote:
James Knott wrote:
Louis-H Desouvrey wrote:
Hi,
I need to put a math formula (e.g. widevec{?}) into a text frame from
the draw functions.
Is there a way to do it in the current version of OOo?
Thanks!
Yes. When in the text box, click on Insert Object Formula. This
will open the math editor, where you can create the desired formula.
It doesn't work. When I am in a text frame from the draw functions,
the menu insert object formula and all other options are
disabled. I can't use either copy and paste.
Curious, it works here on both Linux and Windows versions.
20080809 1925 GMT-6
I just tried it and it works fine - Im on Ubuntu (linux).
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