[USMA:26755] Ways to go

2003-09-01 Thread Pat Naughtin
Dear Terry, on 2003-08-31 23.03, Terry Simpson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Industrial Heating Pittsburgh, PA 15220 http://www.industrialheating.com/ih/cda/articleinformation/features/bnp__fea tures__item/0,2832,25919,00.html Industrial Heating can't force the implementation of the metric

[USMA:26748] Re: David Owen article and carpentry

2003-09-01 Thread Pat Naughtin
Dear Paul and All, My thoughts are below your letter. In his October 2002 New Yorker article on metric, David Owen comments: ...the same urge for consistency at any cost is often evident among wholly rational metric advocates, who seldom acknowledge thta there could be situations in which

[USMA:26756] Re: Metric paper sizes technical drawings?

2003-09-01 Thread Joseph B. Reid
J. Jason Wentworth wrote in USMA 26754: I can highly recommend the vendor who supplies my A4 paper. They can also provide A3 and any other A-series or B-series paper size. Their A4 paper is *exactly* 210 mm X 297 mm (more accurately cut than some A4 sheets I've received in international

[USMA:26758] Introduction

2003-09-01 Thread john mercer
Hello my name is John Mercer. my wife Doreen and I live in Langley British Columbia Canada about 60 kilometers east of Vancouver. I am 54 years old and Doreen is 55. We were both educated in the imperial system of measurement. I feel the Metric system is a much better system to work with. I

[USMA:26751] Agricultural lobby group: The Grange

2003-09-01 Thread Terry Simpson
http://www.wa-grange.org/policy_handbook/2003_Legislative_handbook.pdf 16. We recommend that our nation officially adopt the metric system for international trade. http://www.wa-grange.org/ What is The Grange? The Grange, formally known as the Patrons of Husbandry, is a grassroots, non-partisan,

[USMA:26749] Editorial policy: Industrial Heating Magazine

2003-09-01 Thread Terry Simpson
Industrial Heating Pittsburgh, PA 15220 http://www.industrialheating.com/ih/cda/articleinformation/features/bnp__fea tures__item/0,2832,25919,00.html Industrial Heating can't force the implementation of the metric system any more than the Federal Government can. But, as an engineering trade

[USMA:26750] Re: Nasa: use of metric in publicity

2003-09-01 Thread Terry Simpson
Thanks Pat. I have emailed NASA in the past and got some responses. One editor appeared surprised that articles were appearing without metric units. I think the reason is that NASA is a huge organisation; her viewpoint was limited to her own department. Perhaps maximum effect will be from: 1.

[USMA:26759] RE: Introduction

2003-09-01 Thread Bill Potts
John: Joe Reid is Canadian and lives in Toronto. He's President Emeritus of the Canadian Metric Association. I'm a naturalized Canadian (British-born), but now live in California. I think there may be a couple of other Canadian or Canadian-born participants in the list. I think you can

[USMA:26760] Re: Metric paper sizes technical drawings?

2003-09-01 Thread Pat Naughtin
Dear John and All, I have interspersed some notes from an Australian perspective. on 2003-09-01 03.13, John S. Ward at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm a scientist/engineer working for NASA. The metric system is used extensively at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory, but inch-pounds are still

[USMA:26761] Re: Metric paper sizes technical drawings?

2003-09-01 Thread Pat Naughtin
Dear John and All, I have interspersed some notes from an Australian perspective. on 2003-09-01 03.13, John S. Ward at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm a scientist/engineer working for NASA. The metric system is used extensively at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory, but inch-pounds are still

[USMA:26762] Re: Metric paper sizes technical drawings?

2003-09-01 Thread Terry Simpson
Pat Naughtin wrote: John S. Ward wrote: The metric system is used extensively at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory, but inch-pounds are still dominant. Mars Climate Orbiter (MCO) investigation report: http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/oig/hq/inspections/g-00-021.pdf The Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL)

[USMA:26765] Re: Introduction

2003-09-01 Thread Paul Trusten, R.Ph.
John and Doreen, Welcome to the list. I'm in the US, but there are definitely some Canadian subscribers. How did you find out about the mailing list? What in particular moves you to support continued metrication? As a pharmacy student in 1974, I had to solve calculation problems in

[USMA:26766] Re: Metric distance sign in USA

2003-09-01 Thread Joseph B. Reid
Stephen Gallagher wrote in USMA 26506; I'm puzzled by your reference to French Canadians. English Canadians use metric too. You may be allowing yourself to be influenced by the practices of some manufacturers. My Black and Decker electric lawnmower, for example, shows blade size in inches

[USMA:26767] A3 paper supplier in US

2003-09-01 Thread John S. Ward
On Sunday 31 August 2003 12:02, Bill Potts wrote: To answer your third question, a Google search on A3 paper US yields the following link: http://www.plotterpapers.com/a3-paper.htm. They're not cheap, but they're less than $100/ream. For large purchase, I suspect their pricing is negotiable.

[USMA:26769] RE: Metric paper sizes technical drawings?

2003-09-01 Thread John S. Ward
Terry, Thanks for your detailed explanation, it's very helpful. I would like to point out my goal of finding a domestic supplier of A3 paper. As long as there is no internal demand for metric products, American companies won't produce. I travel to Europe several times per year, and could

[USMA:26768] Metric Paper size

2003-09-01 Thread john mercer
Hello everyone I have a question. What is the size of A 3 and a 4 paper. Is 8.5 by 11 inch paper only used in Canada and the States? Thanks for your time.

[USMA:26770] Metric usage within NASA

2003-09-01 Thread John S. Ward
On Monday 01 September 2003 00:04, Pat Naughtin wrote: Dear John and All, I have interspersed some notes from an Australian perspective. on 2003-09-01 03.13, John S. Ward at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm a scientist/engineer working for NASA. The metric system is used extensively

[USMA:26771] Re: Metric usage within NASA

2003-09-01 Thread Ezra Steinberg
Hmmm, sounds a heck of a lot like the prevailing attitude in the UK about miles and road signs, eh? sigh Still, kudos to Chris Keenan, Lord Howe, the UKMA, et al. for continuing to fight the good fight! (As King Henry said it so well: Once more unto the breach!) Ezra John S. Ward wrote (in

[USMA:26772] Re: Metric paper sizes technical drawings?

2003-09-01 Thread John S. Ward
Hi Pat, The party line that the management sees (32% of of projects classified as all-metric) is very different from what those of us in the trenches see. I find these statistics to be very hard to believe. The following popular scenario may well explain it: Technician to engineer:

[USMA:26774] Re: Metric usage within NASA

2003-09-01 Thread Bill Potts
Ezra Steinberg wrote: As King Henry said it so well: Once more unto the breach! That wasn't the real King Henry; that was merely Shakespeare's portrayal of King Henry V. g Bill Potts, CMS Roseville, CA http://metric1.org [SI Navigator]

[USMA:26773] RE: Metric Paper size

2003-09-01 Thread Bill Potts
A3 is 420 mm x 297 mm; A4 is 297 mm x 210 mm. For a full discussion of A series sizes, click here: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/iso-paper.html. Note that, although A and B series sizes are specified in millimeters, they have nothing specifically to do with SI. Rather, they are defined

[USMA:26775] Re: Metric usage within NASA

2003-09-01 Thread Ezra Steinberg
Yup, I kinda figured everyone knew that. Bill Potts wrote: Ezra Steinberg wrote: As King Henry said it so well: Once more unto the breach! That wasn't the real King Henry; that was merely Shakespeare's portrayal of King Henry V. g Bill Potts, CMS Roseville, CA http://metric1.org [SI