[USMA:54460] Re: What to call non SI measures. Legacy Measures

2014-11-17 Thread CARLETON
Does the word legacy have sufficient negative connotations, though?   Carleton - Original Message - From: Howard R Ressel (DOT) howard.res...@dot.ny.gov To: USMA usma@colostate.edu Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 8:22:01 AM Subject: [USMA:54459] Re: What to call non SI measures

[USMA 121] Re: the liter leads at Market Street stores

2016-03-15 Thread CARLETON
It's 300 km/h. Another bad case of rounding off the miles, then back-converting. Carleton - Original Message - From: "Martin Vlietstra" <vliets...@btinternet.com> To: "Carleton" <carlet...@comcast.net>, "Paul Trusten" <trus...@grandeco

[USMA 119] Re: the liter leads at Market Street stores

2016-03-14 Thread Carleton
There was something I saw at Costco Friday night. It was some kind of flavored water drink in what looked like a 500 mL bottle. Usually it also shows 16.9 oz. Well, the oz got rounded up to 17, then back-converted to metric, and it shows 503 mL. Wonder who the idiot was. Carleton On 2016

[USMA 167] Re: Recent article containing dual units

2016-04-18 Thread Carleton
The good old Associated Press again … cm On 2016-04-18, 08:28, "USMA on behalf of Ressel, Howard R (DOT)" wrote: Check out the line in the 4th paragraph.

[USMA:27577] FW: [A_A] English Weights, was re: City of NO cruise control woes

2003-11-14 Thread Carleton MacDonald
Believe it or not, this was discussion on a railroad-oriented list, with Norman (from Toronto) making an offhand comment about me favoring Celsius, and it started a whole round of discussion. These are non-metric-oriented people yet even they see the need to get the conversion done. Carleton

[USMA:27582] RE: FW: [A_A] English Weights, was re: City of NO cruise control woes

2003-11-15 Thread Carleton MacDonald
Norman has thoroughly embraced metric. But he knows that many on that railroad list don't. So he wrote using US units, but showed the proper units for my benefit, and as a subtle dig to the others. (He and I write a lot offline.) Carleton -Original Message- From: Mighty Chimp [mailto

[USMA:27592] Re: List Lurker thoughts on cm

2003-11-15 Thread Carleton MacDonald
Joseph Reid wrote: My take on the situation is that the centimetre is so close to the inch that people brought up on inch/pound have a tendency to convert centimetre-measurements into inches, whereas millimetre-measurements are so different from inch-measurements that they do not try to make a

[USMA:27687] RE: New newsgroup misc.metric-system passes 211:25

2003-11-26 Thread Carleton MacDonald
One wonders what goes through the minds of the no voters - what motivates them to do that. cm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Markus Kuhn Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 15:17 To: U.S. Metric Association Subject: [USMA:27682] RE: New

[USMA:27720] Re: The thrust of the argument

2003-11-30 Thread Carleton MacDonald
Someone probably saw pounds of force somewhere and just multiplied by 2.2 or something like that, doing a straight conversion while remaining somewhat ignorant of what it really meant. cm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of James Frysinger Sent:

[USMA:27778] RE: UPLR

2003-12-06 Thread Carleton MacDonald
Hmm. One could push the issue in those states by creating metric-only labels for the entire country and sending the product to all states, including them. Then wait for the yelling. Then point out how stupid the yelling makes that state look, and would it please get on with the program,

[USMA:27820] Re: FW: AccuWeather.com Desktop Feedback Form

2003-12-12 Thread Carleton MacDonald
The problem with Weatherbug is that if you select the metric option the wind speed is in kph. I've written to them several times about that; after the first time, I've been ignored. Carleton -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mighty Chimp Sent

[USMA:27834] RE: Airplane altitudes

2003-12-14 Thread Carleton MacDonald
forecast of possible widely scattered aluminum. Carleton -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Terry Simpson Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 11:18 To: U.S. Metric Association Subject: [USMA:27823] RE: Airplane altitudes Of Nick Kocharhook I've

[USMA:27853] RE: Airplane altitudes

2003-12-15 Thread Carleton MacDonald
everyone up there is using the same standard, so they are separated with relationship to each other. Carleton Former flight instructor -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Terry Simpson Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 20:52 To: U.S. Metric Association

[USMA:27858] RE: Airplane altitudes

2003-12-15 Thread Carleton MacDonald
be lower if 500 m were the levels - even thousands westbound and thousands + 500 eastbound, perhaps - current separation 2000 ft, new separation 500 m, or about 1640 ft. Probably still safe enough. Carleton -Original Message- From: John S. Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday

[USMA:27867] RE: Airplane altitudes

2003-12-16 Thread Carleton MacDonald
) standard pressure (1013.2 mb or, in the old USA system, 29.92 inches of mercury) if you are above the transition altitude; this puts everyone on an equal standard. Then you read the height shown by the altimeter. It will never show you what the pressure at altitude is. Carleton -Original

[USMA:27909] Re: Airbus and metric

2003-12-21 Thread Carleton MacDonald
If I remember right, Sud Aviation (which was also involved with the Concorde) was one of the European manufacturers that got together to create Airbus. By themselves, they were all making airplanes few people other than their nationalized airlines wanted; together, they made a product that

[USMA:27929] RE: Residential thermostats

2003-12-22 Thread Carleton MacDonald
My Honeywell thermostat doesnt have this requirement. Set it to Celsius and program it normally, in increments of one degree. cm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Norman Nancy Werling Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 20:24 To:

[USMA:27952] Re: Residential thermostats

2003-12-23 Thread Carleton MacDonald
In my 1999 Saab 9-5 bought used, there are three settings for the display system (outside thermometer, heat/AC settings, trip computer). 1. US - all wombat. 2. UK - temperature in whole degrees C, time 24 hr, but distances in miles. 3. Metric - everything right. Whole degrees C only. Stupid

[USMA:27994] RE: Perkins Engines

2003-12-26 Thread Carleton MacDonald
Unless of course you count the archaic horsepower (but they do show engine output in kW too) cm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of john mercer Sent: Friday, December 26, 2003 00:40 To: U.S. Metric Association Subject: [USMA:27986]

[USMA:28036] RE: virus warning

2003-12-29 Thread Carleton MacDonald
The graphic came onto my computer as Ariel. Microsoft only uses Helvetica. Another giveaway. cm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Chimpsarecute Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 14:04 To: U.S. Metric Association Subject: [USMA:28029]

[USMA:28046] RE: Collapse of the dollar

2003-12-31 Thread Carleton MacDonald
A year or two ago the Australian dollar was well behind the Canadian dollar. Now both are nearly the same at 0.73 0.75 USD. Even though this may make it cheaper to send US products abroad, the US manufacturers have already sent most of that work abroad, so I dont know if there will

[USMA:28066] RE: Calendar, date and time

2004-01-01 Thread Carleton MacDonald
railroads now dispatch in the 24-hour clock for this reason; there is no ambiguity over and 1200. (But public railroad timetables in the USA are still dumbed-down to the 12-hour clock for the public.) Although tolerated, 2400 should never be used because there is no 2401. Carleton -Original

[USMA:28073] RE: Calendar, date and time

2004-01-01 Thread Carleton MacDonald
Well, there's the front end of the week, and the back end of the week, and together they make the weekend ... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Predrag Lezaic Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2004 14:29 To: U.S. Metric Association Subject:

[USMA:28074] RE: Calendar, date and time

2004-01-01 Thread Carleton MacDonald
Except that won't work, because: The last moment of the day is 23:59:59, or 11:59:59 pm. The first moment of the new day is 00:00:00, or 12:00:00 am. It would be very strange to go from 11:59:59 am to 12:00:00 am to 12:00:01 pm. cm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[USMA:28080] RE: Calendar, date and time

2004-01-01 Thread Carleton MacDonald
to the new day, not the old one. Converted to 12-hr, this makes 12:00:00 am midnight, as it is immediately followed by 12:00:01; 12:00:00 pm is noon because it is immediately followed by 12:00:01 pm. Carleton -Original Message- From: Chimpsarecute [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent

[USMA:28082] RE: Calendar, date and time

2004-01-01 Thread Carleton MacDonald
It probably dates back to the invention of the clock itself. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Michael Ossipov Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2004 19:31 To: U.S. Metric Association Subject: [USMA:28081] Calendar, date and time Does someone if who

[USMA:28090] RE: Calendar, date and time

2004-01-01 Thread Carleton MacDonald
Our reservation computer at work, which still uses 12-hour time notation because the American public wants it that way, shows time as follows. 1200M midnight 1201A one minute after 1159A 1200N noon 1201P one minute after 1159P Carleton -Original Message- From

[USMA:28093] RE: Calendar, date and time

2004-01-01 Thread Carleton MacDonald
; it ends when they go to bed. This is where the 24 hour clock is very helpful. Its pretty clear when the time goes from 2359 to that Something Happened. Not so clear when it goes from 11:59 pm to 12:00 am. Carleton -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

[USMA:28111] RE: SOOT - the Unit RE: Phonograph records

2004-01-02 Thread Carleton MacDonald
We should remember that the phonograph record has been completely supplanted by the compact disc, which is made to a hard metric standard (15 mm hole, 80 or 120 mm diameter). Undoubtedly someone out there will know of an obscure person or company still making records ... Carleton -Original

[USMA:28112] RE: When did we start reckoning days at midnight?...

2004-01-02 Thread Carleton MacDonald
Maybe because midnight is a constant, but sunset is not. Carleton -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ma Be Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 11:40 To: U.S. Metric Association Subject: [USMA:28108] When did we start reckoning days at midnight

[USMA:28113] Re: Calendar, date and time

2004-01-02 Thread Carleton MacDonald
We have the worst problems when trains depart between midnight and 1:00 am, for this very reason. Carleton -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ma Be Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 11:49 To: U.S. Metric Association Subject: [USMA:28110] Re

[USMA:28122] RE: New Calendar!!!...

2004-01-02 Thread Carleton MacDonald
I take it Month 6 is the vacation month. cm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ma Be Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 15:29 To: U.S. Metric Association Subject: [USMA:28116] New Calendar!!!... I'll take this opportunity (our fellow's post below)

[USMA:28123] Re: Time

2004-01-02 Thread Carleton MacDonald
The meltdown usually comes when people have to actually use it (loose produce, meat cut to order, etc.), and not just buying a package of something. They see steak priced by the kg and dont know how much to order. cm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

[USMA:28166] Re: New Calendar!!!...

2004-01-05 Thread Carleton MacDonald
We would have to publish conversion charts for centuries, though: Dude, when was my birthday? cm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John S. Ward Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 23:54 To: U.S. Metric Association Subject: [USMA:28164] Re: New

[USMA:28190] RE: Fw: Metrics

2004-01-07 Thread Carleton MacDonald
It seems quite likely that the contractors are working at picking off states one at a time. With the current Congress and administration it is unlikely that there will be any serious move back to metric now or in the future. cm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

[USMA:28212] RE: New York state department of transportation

2004-01-08 Thread Carleton MacDonald
Whining contractors who have the ear of their legislatures. cm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of john mercer Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 23:39 To: U.S. Metric Association Subject: [USMA:28195] New York state department of

[USMA:28224] RE: The New American Century

2004-01-10 Thread Carleton MacDonald
I know quite a few people who think that because this is America we are on top of the world, why should we change, and the rest of the world should change and do things the way we do. cm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Phil

[USMA:28226] RE: [A_A] GNER Menu

2004-01-10 Thread Carleton MacDonald
Oops, got it backward. A UK pound was around $1.75 in 1982. cm -Original Message- From: Jamie Terrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 14:33 To: Carleton MacDonald Subject: RE: [A_A] GNER Menu --- Carleton MacDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I

[USMA:28230] 1970's map announcing the US conversion to metric

2004-01-10 Thread Carleton MacDonald
. Carleton

[USMA:28320] Re: Wind Chill

2004-01-17 Thread Carleton MacDonald
at one time that indicated how dangerous each level was. Carleton -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John S. Ward Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 12:54 To: U.S. Metric Association Subject: [USMA:28317] Re: Wind Chill On Thursday 15 January 2004 20

[USMA:28390] RE: Mars

2004-01-25 Thread Carleton MacDonald
Ironic, it was a Ray-Gun who dissolved the US Metric Board in the early 1980s cm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Chimpsarecute Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 11:25 To: U.S. Metric Association Subject: [USMA:28370] Mars You

[USMA:28531] Re: Torque and horsepower

2004-02-04 Thread Carleton MacDonald
in San Francisco we had a 100 amp house service. But then we had gas water heat and no need for an air conditioner. Wonder how it's done in the UK and other 220-240 v countries. Carleton -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Phil Chernack Sent

[USMA:28533] Re: Torque and horsepower

2004-02-04 Thread Carleton MacDonald
: Nat Hager III [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 20:00 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'U.S. Metric Association' Subject: RE: [USMA:28531] Re: Torque and horsepower Carleton, Two phases would differ by 180° whereas 3 would differ by 120°. So could you really just take 2 of the 3

[USMA:28584] Re: Super Bowl sleeze

2004-02-07 Thread Carleton MacDonald
I think the issue is that it was done deliberately and gratuitously, for shock value only. Quite different than doing it in context, in a serious movie. It became the acting out of adolescents, and that is what ticked everyone off. cm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[USMA:28611] Re: AP slipping

2004-02-09 Thread Carleton MacDonald
Yup, my county. Of course, The Washington Post dumbed down the units in yesterdays story about the Mars rover. Carleton -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of G. Stanley Doore Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 06:41 To: U.S. Metric

[USMA:28632] RE: Get a load of this!

2004-02-10 Thread Carleton MacDonald
Sounds like Creation Science. cm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Chimpsarecute Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 19:56 To: U.S. Metric Association Subject: [USMA:28630] RE: Get a load of this! Tony Bennett on theBWMA forum.

[USMA:28698] RE: Metric in Montgomery Co.

2004-02-15 Thread Carleton MacDonald
My own opinion: I couldn't care less if it's spelled meter, metre, etc. What bothers me is when it's spelled inch, pound, ounce, mile ... Carleton -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Hooper Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 11:07 To: U.S

[USMA:28772] Re: second based on decimal day

2004-02-18 Thread Carleton MacDonald
there. Distance to Omaha 650 km My speed 100 km/h It will take me 6.5 hours, not including gas stops, pee stops, food stops. I would have a much harder time figuring this in m/s. We can go down with the ship if we insist on absolute perfection. Carleton -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

[USMA:28809] Re: Kitchen measuring cups

2004-02-20 Thread Carleton MacDonald
In Kohl's I saw a variant of measuring cup with big numbers and the proclamation US measurement only, allegedly to make it easier for Wilma Flintstone to use. The US/metric version was still available too. Both were by Pyrex. Ironic, since Pyrex's glass bowls, despite the paper label, say only

[USMA:28909] Re: Doctors' scales

2004-02-25 Thread Carleton MacDonald
it that way. 2. Vet's office. Scale is dual, controlled by a switch. Vet assistant wants it in lb and oz and gets irritated if you want it the other way. Wonder how they dose the medicine. A long way to go still. Carleton -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

[USMA:28959] Re: Doctors' scales

2004-02-26 Thread Carleton MacDonald
That would probably have to work only for a certain range. For me at 1.79 m a mass of 79 kg would be pretty good. But for a very short person, say 1.25 m ... Carleton -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Pat Naughtin Sent: Thursday, February 26

[USMA:28960] Re: American and European differences

2004-02-26 Thread Carleton MacDonald
Not just there. In 1999 we went to Montreal to visit friends and went out to dinner. The waitress served everyone wine, including my 13-year-old, because in Quebec children often get a bit of wine at family dinners and Jeffrey was going out with his family. Carleton -Original Message

[USMA:28936] RE: Pro metric lobby?

2004-02-26 Thread Carleton MacDonald
a long way, but they probably come to Canada for their cars if they're anywhere in the Northeast). Carleton -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Potts Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 00:16 To: U.S. Metric Association Subject: [USMA:28931] RE

[USMA:29000] RE: A jaded Outlook?

2004-02-28 Thread Carleton MacDonald
Since I changed from AOL proprietary e-mail to a cable internet provider, and began using Outlook, dealing with e-mail is much faster and simpler. We use it at work. The trains still run, the Republic still stands, and the sun still rises in the east. cm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

[USMA:29019] Different laws for showing quantity, was: RE: RE: Wisconsin Ice Cream

2004-02-28 Thread Carleton MacDonald
This reminds me of something ... Last year I was in a Costco in Canada and picked up some toothpaste, Crest, quantity on tube is by volume -- 130 mL. However, toothpaste sold in the US has the quantity in mass instead -- ounces and grams. Same stuff, wonder why the difference. Carleton

[USMA:29098] Re: United States Postal Service

2004-03-07 Thread Carleton MacDonald
Aren't the employees still a part of the Civil Service, in some form of other? I work for another quasi-governmental agency, but we are not considered part of the Civil Service. cm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gavin Young Sent: Sunday,

[USMA:29121] RE: UPS and Fedex

2004-03-08 Thread Carleton MacDonald
The Fedex International Airbill allows the entry of mass and size in either SI or wombat. cm -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of john mercerSent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 20:32To: U.S. Metric AssociationSubject: [USMA:29108] UPS

[USMA:29152] Re: national weather service

2004-03-09 Thread Carleton MacDonald
Although we think of them as related, the USA could convert from F to C without doing anything else. Something long overdue, and relatively simple. cm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jason Darfus Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 12:22 To: U.S.

[USMA:29172] RE: maporama

2004-03-11 Thread Carleton MacDonald
Suggestion: Don't show links as properly-punctuated parts of sentences .. show them as separate paragraphs, and disregard puctuation, viz. sentence link more of sentence That may help minimize broken links too. cm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

[USMA:29255] Re: Australian labelling

2004-03-20 Thread Carleton MacDonald
"Subway 15" and "Subway 30" could be used ... cm -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Ezra SteinbergSent: Saturday, March 20, 2004 21:15To: U.S. Metric AssociationSubject: [USMA:29253] Re: Australian labelling Yes, that's

[USMA:29262] Re: Australian labelling

2004-03-21 Thread Carleton MacDonald
Likewise here. I just order the large sandwich or the small one. Carleton -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chimpsarecute Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 00:13 To: U.S. Metric Association Subject: [USMA:29256] Re: Australian labelling ... when

[USMA:29300] RE: metric Duck Tape (sic)

2004-03-25 Thread Carleton MacDonald
I installed a new humidifier and bought some metallic duct tape to seal off the old location after patching it with a piece of metal cut from the new location. The roll was 48 mm x 50 m with NO inchpound equivalent shown! Bought at Home Depot right here in Maryland. Carleton -Original

[USMA:29362] RE: Neo-cons, was Canadian metric muddle evident

2004-03-29 Thread Carleton MacDonald
Don't forget: Grover Norquist Sen. Istook Tom DeLay Wall Street Journal Editorial Board Karl Rove cm -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Bill PottsSent: Monday, March 29, 2004 11:45To: U.S. Metric AssociationSubject:

[USMA:29377] RE: Canadian metric muddle evident

2004-03-30 Thread Carleton MacDonald
of Canadian conversion voluntary as soon as it hit the retail, real estate, etc. sectors, and the whining began. The metric baby in Canada remains stuck halfway born even now. The political attitudes and forces that affect metrication cannot be ignored. Carleton -Original Message-From

[USMA:29415] Re: To Pat Naughtin (comparison to Canada).

2004-04-03 Thread Carleton MacDonald
listed. IIRC, Australian speedometers are solely in km/h. But then again, very few Australians drive their cars to the US. (more snip) Carleton

[USMA:29433] RE: A 'Web Quest'

2004-04-04 Thread Carleton MacDonald
The students will likely develop cogent arguments along the lines of simplicity, cost saving, standardization, coherence, etc. I wonder if any of them will be sophisticated enough to also understand, and write about, the political factors and impediments that come into play. Carleton

[USMA:29450] Re: USMA digest 1568 - floppies really are 3.5 in. on one side

2004-04-05 Thread Carleton MacDonald
IBM was one of the first users of the small diskette, and I guess they felt they had to dumb down the size for the American audience, or to match their 5.25 in diskette (the only real "floppy" diskette; the 90 mm diskette is rigid plastic, and does not flop). Carleton ---

[USMA:29513] RE: Liquor metric bottles

2004-04-12 Thread Carleton MacDonald
) not if you're under 21. Other than that, nothing. You can get vodka with your bread and milk at the supermarket. Carleton -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of G. Stanley Doore Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 16:37 To: U.S. Metric Association Subject: [USMA

[USMA:29593] RE: Where did everyone go?

2004-04-20 Thread Carleton MacDonald
Title: Message 35 in D.C. yesterday. Time to move to Newfoundland. cm -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Phil ChernackSent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 16:44To: U.S. Metric AssociationSubject: [USMA:29591] RE: Where did everyone

[USMA:29750] Re: power, thrust and force

2004-05-11 Thread Carleton MacDonald
The original inquirer was actually speaking about turbojet engines, which often are rated in pounds of thrust. Most are actually turbofan engines, with a large ducted fan in front that blows only air. This increases efficiency and reduces noise. Carleton -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

[USMA:29662] Metric discussion regarding railroads - long but perhaps interesting

2004-05-03 Thread Carleton MacDonald
Looks like I started something on a railroad-oriented list. Someone said that a "half-mile long" passenger train was the longest he had seen. Then he described a 70-car train. I pointed out how long it was - and away things went; it got rather interesting.This is rather long and if you

[USMA:29911] Re: Floppy Disks in Australia

2004-05-22 Thread Carleton MacDonald
long. I do not know why it is called a floppy, as the disk is hard, and does not flop, unlike the larger one that came before it. Carleton -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Potts Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 04:48 To: U.S. Metric

[USMA:29916] Re: kWh for gas

2004-05-22 Thread Carleton MacDonald
Actually, the demand water heater is getting quite a following in the USA. Go to Google or other search engine and type in demand water heater and browse through the results. Carleton -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of MightyChimp Sent

[USMA:29959] RE: Stanley thermos

2004-05-24 Thread Carleton MacDonald
A Pyrex bowl at the grocery store was advertised on its paper insert as 4 qt/3.77 L. I looked at the bottom, where letters are embossed into the glass. 4 L. I have other Pyrex bowls at home that say 1 L, 1.5 L, etc. Wonder why they had to falsify the amount on the paper insert. cm

[USMA:29964] Re: Metric skybus diagram (Suspended monorail in India)

2004-05-24 Thread Carleton MacDonald
some degree of slop in the fit. Carleton -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of G. Stanley DooreSent: Sunday, May 23, 2004 21:08To: U.S. Metric AssociationSubject: [USMA:29944] Re: Metric skybus diagram (Suspended monorail in India

[USMA:30069] RE: Horses and hands

2004-06-07 Thread Carleton MacDonald
Does "15.2" mean 15.2 hands, or 15 hands 2 inches? This is a similar concept to "stone" in the UK. cm -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Harry WyethSent: Monday, June 07, 2004 05:10To: U.S. Metric AssociationSubject:

[USMA:30078] RE: Horses and hands

2004-06-07 Thread Carleton MacDonald
Unreal, the strangeness of FFU. Carleton -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of James WentworthSent: Monday, June 07, 2004 08:03To: U.S. Metric AssociationSubject: [USMA:30071] RE: Horses and hands Carleton MacDonald (cm

[USMA:30109] Comcast home screen: George Bush parachute dive

2004-06-13 Thread Carleton MacDonald
does for 'the thrill.' (It also says: Mrs Bush: This is last jump) Nothing about feet. Carleton

[USMA:30148] Re: Comment from UK politician about Irish metrication

2004-06-15 Thread Carleton MacDonald
I agree with her that one island should have one speed limit. So when is she going to change the signs on her end? cm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 15:27 To: U.S. Metric Association Subject:

[USMA:30193] RE: Tide 400 ml

2004-06-22 Thread Carleton MacDonald
Tide's 2 kg and 3 kg boxes of tablets are no longer in our local store, though. cm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Nat Hager III Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 21:08 To: U.S. Metric Association Subject: [USMA:30192] Tide 400 ml Picked up at

[USMA:30282] New Bangkok subway opened 7/03

2004-07-05 Thread Carleton MacDonald
Display the link and read down into the text. You will note everything is SI -- except the height of the children! Carleton - http://www.angkor.com/2bangkok/2bangkok/Subway/index.shtml

[USMA:30469] Ounces and Pounds Foolish

2004-07-18 Thread Carleton MacDonald
An article from the business section of The Washington Post, July 18, 2004, followed by my response to her. Carleton --- Ounces And Pounds Foolish By Margaret Webb Pressler Washington Post Staff Writer

[USMA:30564] Re: New list proposal

2004-07-27 Thread Carleton MacDonald
Except -- that what groups like the BWMA do over there, we can expect here, when metrication finally is fully implemented in the USA. Learning from the experiences of others is always a good idea. Carleton -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf

[USMA:30588] RE: Irish Times today

2004-07-31 Thread Carleton MacDonald
There are fixed distribution costs that do not directly relate to the quantity of product inside the container. For this reason two half-sizes in two containers is usually more expensive than one full-size in one container. Carleton -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED

[USMA:30596] Metric aviation, from the head of Airbus North America

2004-08-01 Thread Carleton MacDonald
This link is from a recent discussion on www.washingtonpost.com -- the metric reference is a little more than halfway down. Carleton http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/liveonline/advertisers/viewpoint_airbus 072004.htm?nav=vpbox

[USMA:30598] Re: Metric aviation, from the head of Airbus North America

2004-08-01 Thread Carleton MacDonald
. Now click on the URL and it should work. I tested this one and it did. Carleton -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David King Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 18:59 To: U.S. Metric Association Subject: [USMA:30597] Re: Metric aviation, from the head

[USMA:30614] Re: Irish Times today

2004-08-02 Thread Carleton MacDonald
: Half pint: euros 1.60 for product, 0.40 for overhead = euros 2.00. Full pint: euros 3.20 for product, 0.40 for overhead = euros 3.60. "What do you mean a half pint is 2.00 and not 1.80?? Ripoff!!" Carleton -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

[USMA:30760] Carbs

2004-08-14 Thread Carleton MacDonald
sort of unit of measure this is, or it is just another bit of creative marketeering? Carleton

[USMA:30763] Re: The Container Store

2004-08-14 Thread Carleton MacDonald
The other trick is to: Click reply or forward. This lets you edit the text in the new window Put your cursor right after the end of the first part of the link Hit delete The hidden hard carriage return disappears, and the link is put back together Now click on it and it should work Carleton

[USMA:30772] RE: 0.5 liter bottles.

2004-08-14 Thread Carleton MacDonald
710 ml is a soft conversion of the 24-oz size, which is somewhat common. cm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David King Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 17:39 To: U.S. Metric Association Subject: [USMA:30764] RE: 0.5 liter bottles. 710 ml is

[USMA:30821] RE: Metrics

2004-08-22 Thread Carleton MacDonald
. The reason he didn't jump as far is because he wasn't as good. The idiots who perpetuate feet and inches in these two events should be told flat out to quit it and to get with the program. Carleton -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf

[USMA:30885] Re: Arnie

2004-08-27 Thread Carleton MacDonald
by corporate interests, took office. 9. Far fetched? I don't think so. Someone high up got to Caltrans. They didn't do this on their own. Same thing in Utah, without doubt. With metrication completed, why would anyone go back, unless pressured? Carleton P.S. Acknowledged, Gray Davis wasn't the best

[USMA:30916] RE: 390 mL bottle

2004-08-28 Thread Carleton MacDonald
had no idea why they felt they had to do that. Coke has an odd mixture of sizes. 12 oz, 500 ml (which they call ".5 liter' [sic]), 20 oz, 24 oz, 1 liter, 2 liter ... Carleton -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of EuricSent: Sat

[USMA:30917] RE: thank you, Mr. Crumpacker

2004-08-28 Thread Carleton MacDonald
. Carleton -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Paul Trusten, R.Ph. Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 19:06 To: U.S. Metric Association Subject: [USMA:30913] thank you, Mr. Crumpacker Slim margin: Osleidys Menendez of Cuba won the gold medal and came

[USMA:31022] Re: Irish speed limit signs

2004-09-05 Thread Carleton MacDonald
Also, most speed limit signs are in black and white only. Keeping the same two colors saves money. cm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Stephen Gallagher Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 09:05 To: U.S. Metric Association Subject: [USMA:31018]

[USMA:31090] RE: km/h on speedometers

2004-09-10 Thread Carleton MacDonald
Last time I was there Saabs are sold in Canada with speedometers in km/h only. Carleton -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hillger, Don Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 16:17 To: U.S. Metric Association Subject: [USMA:31078] RE: km/h

[USMA:31114] RE: INTEREST IN METRIC DIEING

2004-09-16 Thread Carleton MacDonald
listen to the whiners. Carleton -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 12:31 To: U.S. Metric Association Subject: [USMA:3] INTEREST IN METRIC DIEING It seems that the interest in metrication

[USMA:31115] Re: Metric

2004-09-16 Thread Carleton MacDonald
Hey, you forgot stones! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of m. f. moon Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 14:30 To: U.S. Metric Association Subject: [USMA:31113] Re: Metric But if you think degrees are bad try thinking in radians! Marion Moon

[USMA:31180] RE: Drudge

2004-09-22 Thread Carleton MacDonald
Gore thinking he could campaign fairly when someone like Rove was his opponent? cm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Nat Hager III Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 21:52 To: U.S. Metric Association Subject: [USMA:31168] Drudge Drifting off

[USMA:31208] RE: Propel

2004-10-01 Thread Carleton MacDonald
Ah, the wonders of back-converting. cm -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Michael PayneSent: Friday, October 01, 2004 14:19To: U.S. Metric AssociationSubject: [USMA:31206] Propel Recently bought a case of Propel vitamin

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