Scott K wrote:
I've been too swamped to post this to the list yet, but this is an
important point that hasn't really been covered. Topher has
considerably less time and experience with the UUG than the other
candidates. From what I've seen, he's really only been involved this
semester, while
On Mon, 2005-04-04 at 23:42 -0600, Michael Moore wrote:
How 'bout a forum?
I think a forum would be a great idea. I have a question though. What
would happen to the mailing list?
Would it be delegated to be a mere announcement service? Would we stop
using it? What would prompt people to
On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 11:42:39PM -0600, Michael Moore wrote:
How 'bout a forum?
I think a forum would be a great idea. I have a question though. What
would happen to the mailing list?
Would it be delegated to be a mere announcement service? Would we stop
using it? What would prompt
Lists are how things are done in the GNU/Linux/BSD/FLOSS/fillintheblank
world.
Fork the tradition! :-)
It's that way for a reason and it's more then just a proud
tradition - it's how things get done. If you do a forum, it will stink
as bad as every other forum out there.
For things
I say we do it.
Here here!
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John David Anderson wrote:
If you want people to join the list, you need to make it work for more
people. (?) My own personal experience has been that the list seems
very tight-knit. Weeks passed before I felt like I knew what everyone
was talking about. I also wasn't completely sure what list
On Tue, Apr 05, 2005 at 12:02:10AM -0600, Scott Kraz wrote:
First read the line immediately preceding. Yes, the one about
responsibility. It would be irresponsible to elect someone with an
uproven record of service in the club. Like Topher. Nice of you to
post this to newbies list where fewer
Andrew McNabb wrote:
As it stands, current numbers suggest that Topher will be vice
president when the dust settles. Then we can see how dedicated he is
to the UUG.
What are you smoking?
What's with the crusade against Topher?
I'm sorry if that came across too serious and too harsh. I
The modules don't need to be blacklisted as the failure to load doesn't
cause any problems. Just a cosmetic detail.
I think that it tries them each twice, so if I blacklisted them would
my laptop boot up faster? Slow booting was one of the main reasons I
ditched Suse 9.1, and if I can trim a
I'm leaving school, and no longer need a laptop. Therefore, my 12 is
up for sale!
12 1 GHz PowerBook
768 MB RAM
4X SuperDrive
40 GB HD
Airport Extreme
Bluetooth
OS X Panther
iLife '04
Brenthaven shoulder case ($100 value, made for 12)
AppleCare (good until end of November '06)
Excellent
First read the line immediately preceding. Yes, the one about
responsibility. It would be irresponsible to elect someone with an
uproven record of service in the club. Like Topher. Nice of you to post
this to newbies list where fewer people could see your disinformation.
You're analogy of
I'm going to second this comment. I've been on a number of forums, and
I've found that it took a lot more commitment to actually go over and
check it. I know that for me, I'm much more likely to see and respond
to a message in my inbox than something on a forum. particularly when
life gets
I'm going to second this comment. I've been on a number of forums, and
I've found that it took a lot more commitment to actually go over and
check it.
True... making posting questions and responses that much more
committed/thought out, I like good answers, like references to places
to
Kyle Winkler wrote:
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How 'bout a forum?
1. It would be easier to sort discussion by topic, letting those
interested in elections to chat freely without disturbing anyone else.
2. New users could see the fruits of past discussions without having
to resurrect old debates.
3. It would eliminate
Here's the code I ended up using:
IfModule mod_rewrite.c
RewriteEngine on
RewriteCond %{SERVER_PORT} !443
RewriteRule . https://%{HTTP_HOST}%{REQUEST_URI}?%{QUERY_STRING}
/IfModule
I'm not sure if this will work in a .htaccess file or not. You
may need to see if your host will add it to
I am thinking
that since it is a redirect by them, my .htaccess file is not
being read and so is not redirecting my requests to https.
So I guess I will either have to talk to them or set up
phpmyadmin myself.
That's correct... htaccess files can only be used to configure the server
1 - We already have the mailing list, and it works well.
This subject is currently under debate.
2 - Many of our members wouldn't switch to a forum system instead of
the mailing list, and
You may be excluding others with the current setup.
3 - Doing both means the discussion is separated into
On Monday 04 April 2005 15:42, Bryan Murdock wrote:
P.S. Josh is right, I'm all for fun off-topic discussions, but I get
the feeling the outrageous election campaign has only been
entertaining to those campaigning. Anyone else feel that way?
If you don't like elections, come to Plug, we never
Seems like we should be able to find a forum/bb system that allows for
RSS of forums. You can then subscribe to whatever you want to keep
track of, thus eliminating the need for website checks (that's what RSS
was made for).
Ohhh!!! This just keeps getting better, If we could find one
On Tue, 2005-04-05 at 09:18 -0700, Jayce^ wrote:
If you don't like elections, come to Plug, we never have them :-p
Coup d'tat!
Who's with me?
;)
Gabe
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Seems like we should be able to find a forum/bb system that allows for
RSS of forums. You can then subscribe to whatever you want to keep track
of, thus eliminating the need for website checks (that's what RSS was
made for).
So, basically, we have a forum with an RSS feed that pushes all the
Don't get me wrong, I feel that a forum could have its place, but it
just seems like a forum+RSS solution would actually be *worse* than the
supposed problem it is trying to fix.
(Disclaimer: I haven't decided if I think a forum would work yet or not)
Hang on just a second though. Imagine
On Tue, 5 Apr 2005, Mark Gardner wrote:
I'd give my vote for a trial forum period. Say three weeks or so...
questions on the list would be keep here, or could be moved to to
forum and people instructed to check there.Another idea is to
change the bottom UUG banner on the list and instruct
On Apr 4, 2005 11:25 PM, Michael Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Lists are how things are done in the GNU/Linux/BSD/FLOSS/fillintheblank
world.
Fork the tradition! :-)
snip/
However, just because I like something, and it's been done that way
doesn't mean that the arguments for a forum
On Apr 5, 2005 10:33 AM, Bryan Murdock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 4, 2005 11:25 PM, Michael Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Lists are how things are done in the GNU/Linux/BSD/FLOSS/fillintheblank
world.
Fork the tradition! :-)
snip/
However, just because I like something, and
On a more serious note, the perfect BB software, in my opinion, would
have nice threading capabilities (like the nested mode in Slashdot, for
example), *and* have the ability to subscribe to the BB via email, so *not
only* do you get a copy of every post in your email, but you can simply
On Apr 5, 2005, at 10:33 AM, Hyrum K. Wright wrote:
snippy
So, basically, we have a forum with an RSS feed that pushes all the
content down to a client. Sounds just about like a mailing list to
me, except the choice of clients is much more limited, and it is more
difficult to filter stuff out
John David Anderson wrote:
On Apr 5, 2005, at 10:33 AM, Hyrum K. Wright wrote:
snippy
So, basically, we have a forum with an RSS feed that pushes all the
content down to a client. Sounds just about like a mailing list to
me, except the choice of clients is much more limited, and it is more
On Tue, 2005-04-05 at 10:39 -0600, John David Anderson wrote:
I just wonder if some of the traffic on the mailing list is more
chat-flavored, and thus more aptly placed inside of a forum (much like
the Coup d'tat post below - no offense Gabe)
I would reply in my defense but it might be to
My Forums vs. Mailing List proposal:
Factors (I'm probably missing something -- sorry):
The need: A convenient way to communicate with other members of the group
Sub needs:
- Be moderatable (Flames, Honor Code, Spam etc.)
- Be manageable (Message volume,
Hi folks,
I just installed a version of Linux onto my 3G 15 gig
ipod and it works very well on it. Although I can't
seem to get aac files (itunes) to play in that os. I
haven't tried any mp3 files yet.
Has anyone here experienced the interesting world of
ipod linux?
Alfie
On Tue, Apr 05, 2005 at 10:39:31AM -0600, John David Anderson wrote:
I think its really important when critiquing an idea, that you offer a
better solution. :o)
So suggest another idea! (if you feel that traffic on this list is a
little heavy, that is)
Forums stink. I propose a mailing
Hi folks,
I just installed a version of Linux onto my 3G 15 gig
ipod and it works very well on it. Although I can't
seem to get aac files (itunes) to play in that os. I
haven't tried any mp3 files yet.
Has anyone here experienced the interesting world of
ipod linux?
Alfie
I have.
On Apr 5, 2005 2:08 PM, Andrew McNabb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Apr 05, 2005 at 10:39:31AM -0600, John David Anderson wrote:
I think its really important when critiquing an idea, that you offer a
better solution. :o)
So suggest another idea! (if you feel that traffic on this list
On Apr 5, 2005 10:09 AM, Ross Werner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 5 Apr 2005, Mark Gardner wrote:
I'd give my vote for a trial forum period. Say three weeks or so...
questions on the list would be keep here, or could be moved to to
forum and people instructed to check there.Another
It's called gmane. I mentioned it on another thread, but maybe
everyone is already ignoring that one. It takes your mailing list and
gives it a forum, newsgroup, and blog interface. Take a look at the
Portland Linux User groups gmane page:
On Apr 5, 2005 3:41 PM, Michael Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's called gmane. I mentioned it on another thread, but maybe
everyone is already ignoring that one. It takes your mailing list and
gives it a forum, newsgroup, and blog interface. Take a look at the
Portland Linux User
On Tue, 5 Apr 2005, Bryan Murdock wrote:
Unfortunately, I've never seen any piece of software like this. Anybody
know of one? (I'd use it for lots more than the UUG list, that's for
sure.)
It's called gmane. I mentioned it on another thread, but maybe
everyone is already ignoring that
On Tue, 5 Apr 2005, Adam Findley wrote:
I think this convience issue is just plain silly. One you open up a
web browser, another you open up a email client. With an email client
you have to wait for an email client to download. With a browser you
don't. You can read the forum *anywhere*,
I agree with everything that you said except this. For the mailing
list interface users, it would be no different, not a lousy
substitute. For those who want a different interface, well, there
they are, web, news, or blog, for free. Maybe not exactly what you
want, but who is really going
Sorry this is such a delayed post. Only today did I get caught up
with all the uug threads.
I would like to correct some mis-information that went out to the list.
The starting of the UUG happened at an unfortunate time. There was
already another techie club on campus called The Internet
If someone wants to create an independent forum, they can go ahead and
try it, but as others have pointed out, I think it would fail miserably.
I'll second this idea... those of you who desperately want a forum,
feel free to try it... Remember: you can try things on your own... We
will have
On Tue, 5 Apr 2005, Bryan Murdock wrote:
On Apr 5, 2005 3:57 PM, Ross Werner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
However, that said, while I think hosting our mailing list at gmane.org
would be a rather lousy substitute for the current uug-list,
I agree with everything that you said except this. For
- Be convenient (Easy to access, Easy to use, Easy to
use with tool of choice)
I've been following this discussion for a while, and i thought I'd put
in my $.02 about the whole idea. This may just be a re-hashing of
everyone else's opinion, but what the heck.
I belong to
I downloaded several, huge CSV files from www.faa.gov for a project I
am doing in one of my classes. Each file contains more than 65,000
lines, so Excel and NeoOffice (OpenOffice on my Mac) can't load them.
I would like to be able to load them and simply look at them and
analyze them. What
Richard Miller wrote:
I downloaded several, huge CSV files from www.faa.gov for a project I am
doing in one of my classes. Each file contains more than 65,000 lines,
so Excel and NeoOffice (OpenOffice on my Mac) can't load them. I would
like to be able to load them and simply look at them and
I'm thinking I ought to load these into a MySQL database. Has anyone
ever seen code to read the first line of a CSV file and create a CREATE
TABLE statement from it? I have a dozen files to load into tables and
each one has a couple dozen columns, so if there's anyway to load them
into
Anyone know of a good rpm to debian translation guide? I want to do
things like:
rpm -qil # show all the files in a package
rpm -qa # list all installed packages
rpm -qif # tell me which package this file belongs too
You know, that kind of stuff.
Thanks,
Bryan
BYU Unix
On Tue, Apr 05, 2005 at 06:42:13PM -0700, Bryan Murdock wrote:
Anyone know of a good rpm to debian translation guide? I want to do
things like:
I don't know of a good guide, but here are the equivalents for those
commands.
rpm -qil # show all the files in a package
dpkg -L package
rpm -qa
rpm -qil # show all the files in a package
dpkg -L package
How about the equivalent of this but for a package that is not
installed? Now that would really interest me a lot!
Phillip
P.S. Yes, I know I could just install whatever and then remove it
later, but that's not what I'm looking
--- Richard Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I downloaded several, huge CSV files from www.faa.gov for a
project I am doing in one of my classes. Each file contains
more than 65,000
lines, so Excel and NeoOffice (OpenOffice on my Mac) can't load
them. I would like to be able to load them
On Tue, Apr 05, 2005 at 02:17:48PM -0600, Michael Moore wrote:
If the majority are satisfied and don't want to move, we'd keep the
list. If the majority don't want to move, but think the list needs
improvement, we'd work from there. If the majority doesn't like the
list and doesn't think it
My RedHat 9 box dual boots with Windows 95 (not very often but
there are some windows programs I can't seem to get away from).
Anyway, the Windows drive is 10G and the linux is also 10G. As I
was not using the Windows drive for much I mount it at boot and
store things on it from Linux.
One thing
On Tue, Apr 05, 2005 at 10:06:25PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
One thing I've done is rip all my CD's to the windows drive -
works fine as I can listen from either boot. Well, I ran out of
space and notice my son's machine (XPro) has about 80G of empty
space on one of his drives so,
How about the equivalent of this but for a package that is not
installed? Now that would really interest me a lot!
not sure if this what you mean, but:
apt-cache search regex
will list packages that you can get via apt-get, where regex is a regular
expression that matches what you are looking
On Apr 5, 2005 9:35 PM, Josh Coates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How about the equivalent of this but for a package that is not
installed? Now that would really interest me a lot!
not sure if this what you mean, but:
apt-cache search regex
will list packages that you can get via apt-get,
On Tue, Apr 05, 2005 at 09:44:23PM -0700, Bryan Murdock wrote:
On Apr 5, 2005 9:35 PM, Josh Coates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How about the equivalent of this but for a package that is not
installed? Now that would really interest me a lot!
not sure if this what you mean, but:
for clarity, are you looking for something like emerge -pv package?
what that does (for those who are unfamiliar with portage and gentoo)
is print out a list of all the dependencies that would need to be
installed for package. it sounds kind of like that's what you're
asking for, but i'm
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