Re: [RESULT] Move Velocity to TLP

2006-10-02 Thread Martin van den Bemt
FYI.. I am in stress mode currently.. Wednesday I will arrive in Austin though and will catch up with all Apache related stuff. Mvgr, Martin Nathan Bubna wrote: Ok, Geir's +1/-1 has been resolved to just a +1. So the vote now stand as: +1 votes: Nathan Bubna Martin van den Bemt James

[RESULT] Move Velocity to TLP

2006-09-29 Thread Nathan Bubna
Ok, Geir's +1/-1 has been resolved to just a +1. So the vote now stand as: +1 votes: Nathan Bubna Martin van den Bemt James Mitchell Henri Yandell Jorg Schaible Henning P. Schmiedehausen Will Glass-Husain Torsten Curdt Rony G. Flatscher Jesse Kuhnert Dion Gillard Daniel Rall

Re: [RESULT] Move Velocity to TLP

2006-09-27 Thread Henning P. Schmiedehausen
Geir Magnusson Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nathan Bubna wrote: On 9/24/06, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/23/06, Geir Magnusson Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip But putting anything that uses Velocity into a TLP is like using things that use log4j into the same TLP (which

Re: [RESULT] Move Velocity to TLP

2006-09-27 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
+1 Nathan Bubna wrote: Sure. Geir, should i put you down as +1 or +0 on the TLP vote? On 9/25/06, Will Glass-Husain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great. I've a message in draft on the charter, but will send that after this one. So there's no confusion, Nathan - maybe you should resend the

Re: [RESULT] Move Velocity to TLP

2006-09-27 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Yeah, but he could be a velocity committer w/o click being in the TLP. Click sounds like a good candidate for a project on it's own. geir Will Glass-Husain wrote: By the way, Click is an interesting case study for eventual TLP inclusion. Click is an innovative approach to web frameworks

Re: [RESULT] Move Velocity to TLP

2006-09-25 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
To me, the vote to go TLP is done. I appreciate the respect and deference though. As for the -1, that's about the charter we'd propose to the board, and we still have a month, so I'm sure we'll come to consensus easily. geir Nathan Bubna wrote: On 9/23/06, Will Glass-Husain [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [RESULT] Move Velocity to TLP

2006-09-25 Thread Will Glass-Husain
Great. I've a message in draft on the charter, but will send that after this one. So there's no confusion, Nathan - maybe you should resend the vote count to general noting the TLP vote is really closed and all -1's are resolved? Cheers, WILL On 9/25/06, Geir Magnusson Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [RESULT] Move Velocity to TLP

2006-09-25 Thread Nathan Bubna
Sure. Geir, should i put you down as +1 or +0 on the TLP vote? On 9/25/06, Will Glass-Husain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great. I've a message in draft on the charter, but will send that after this one. So there's no confusion, Nathan - maybe you should resend the vote count to general noting

Re: [RESULT] Move Velocity to TLP

2006-09-25 Thread Will Glass-Husain
By the way, Click is an interesting case study for eventual TLP inclusion. Click is an innovative approach to web frameworks with an active community.The lead developer (Malcolm Edgar) has been actively participating on the velocity lists and supplying patches. There's a good

[RESULT] Move Velocity to TLP

2006-09-24 Thread Nathan Bubna
On 9/23/06, Geir Magnusson Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nathan Bubna wrote: On 9/22/06, Geir Magnusson Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I'm +1 and -1. I'm +1 as I do think that Velocity as a TLP is not unreasonable. Not necessary, but not unreasonable. I'm -1 because I'm worried that

Re: [RESULT] Move Velocity to TLP

2006-09-24 Thread Nathan Bubna
On 9/23/06, Will Glass-Husain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow. Skip email for a day and there's a blizzard. I take Geir's comments pretty seriously though. To me, the most important part of this is the opportunity to grow the developer community. That's easy to say, of course. Technically, any

Re: [RESULT] Move Velocity to TLP

2006-09-24 Thread Nathan Bubna
On 9/24/06, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/23/06, Geir Magnusson Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip But putting anything that uses Velocity into a TLP is like using things that use log4j into the same TLP (which would re-create Jakarta... :) Yep, good thing that's not the

Re: [RESULT] Move Velocity to TLP

2006-09-24 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Nathan Bubna wrote: On 9/24/06, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/23/06, Geir Magnusson Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip But putting anything that uses Velocity into a TLP is like using things that use log4j into the same TLP (which would re-create Jakarta... :) Yep,

Re: [RESULT] Move Velocity to TLP

2006-09-24 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Nathan Bubna wrote: On 9/23/06, Geir Magnusson Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nathan Bubna wrote: On 9/22/06, Geir Magnusson Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I'm +1 and -1. I'm +1 as I do think that Velocity as a TLP is not unreasonable. Not necessary, but not unreasonable. I'm -1

Re: [RESULT] Move Velocity to TLP

2006-09-24 Thread Nathan Bubna
On 9/24/06, Geir Magnusson Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nathan Bubna wrote: On 9/23/06, Geir Magnusson Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nathan Bubna wrote: On 9/22/06, Geir Magnusson Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I'm +1 and -1. I'm +1 as I do think that Velocity as a TLP is not

Re: [RESULT] Move Velocity to TLP

2006-09-23 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Right - moving to TLP doesn't make a difference there, other than the plan to bring in velocity related things into the project, which grows the commiter base. geir Nathan Bubna wrote: No, that is not basically the reason. On 9/22/06, Daniel Dekany [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Saturday,

Re: [RESULT] Move Velocity to TLP

2006-09-23 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Nathan Bubna wrote: On 9/22/06, Geir Magnusson Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This vote closed sooner than expected. I was traveling and there was no stated deadline. Aw, c'mon. It's been in discussion on velocity-dev for over a month, and i gave the vote a full week! Not complaining,

Re: [RESULT] Move Velocity to TLP

2006-09-23 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Adding velocity-dev Henning Schmiedehausen wrote: Hi, I'm completely with Nathan here. A Velocity TLP will not be another Jakarta (though I do fail to see why everyone seems to believe that Jakata is always considered a bad example). Right - the only thing that was bad about Jakarta is

Re: [RESULT] Move Velocity to TLP

2006-09-23 Thread Will Glass-Husain
Wow. Skip email for a day and there's a blizzard. I take Geir's comments pretty seriously though. To me, the most important part of this is the opportunity to grow the developer community. That's easy to say, of course. Technically, any committer in Jakarta now has svn commit rights to

[RESULT] Move Velocity to TLP

2006-09-22 Thread Nathan Bubna
Looks like the Velocity community is ready to head out on its own... +1 votes: Nathan Bubna Martin van den Bemt James Mitchell Henri Yandell Jorg Schaible Henning P. Schmiedehausen Will Glass-Husain Torsten Curdt Rony G. Flatscher Jesse Kuhnert Dion Gillard Daniel Rall Matthijs

Re: [RESULT] Move Velocity to TLP

2006-09-22 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
This vote closed sooner than expected. I was traveling and there was no stated deadline. I'm +1 and -1. I'm +1 as I do think that Velocity as a TLP is not unreasonable. Not necessary, but not unreasonable. I'm -1 because I'm worried that this is a new kind of umbrella that's planned. Making

Re: [RESULT] Move Velocity to TLP

2006-09-22 Thread Daniel Dekany
Saturday, September 23, 2006, 1:02:35 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: This vote closed sooner than expected. I was traveling and there was no stated deadline. [snip] So, Velocity will be TLP. Now, somebody correct me if I get it wrong, but is the reason basically that its developer community was

Re: [RESULT] Move Velocity to TLP

2006-09-22 Thread Nathan Bubna
No, that is not basically the reason. On 9/22/06, Daniel Dekany [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Saturday, September 23, 2006, 1:02:35 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: This vote closed sooner than expected. I was traveling and there was no stated deadline. [snip] So, Velocity will be TLP. Now,

Fwd: [RESULT] Move Velocity to TLP

2006-09-22 Thread Nathan Bubna
oops, only sent this reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] repeating it here... On 9/22/06, Geir Magnusson Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This vote closed sooner than expected. I was traveling and there was no stated deadline. Aw, c'mon. It's been in discussion on velocity-dev for over a month, and i