Re: Velocity and JDBC

2005-02-23 Thread Simon Christian
Certainly it'll work in a Struts/Velocity setup - take a look at 
Claude's example which uses VelocityTools, at:

  http://velosurf.sourceforge.net/velosurf/docs/index.html#example
The VelosurfTool is made available to the context along with other tools.
- simon
Manish wrote:
What would be the best approach to display DB results on page.
I'd check out Claude's project, Velosurf.
http://velosurf.sourceforge.net/
Thanks for the link!! :)
Is it feasible to use velosurf with Struts/Velocity paradigm.
Some design restrictions require me to use action for every link on web page
so that it passes through the custom request processor that we have.
So need to know about this feasibility before I look into more details. Any
inputs will be highly appreciated.
TIA,
- Manish

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Re: Velocity and JDBC

2005-02-23 Thread Markos Charatzas
Hm...

Im quite skeptical about this...

Why not use a proper OR mapping tool (e.g. hibernate), provide a complete db 
implementation (Database, DatabaseRequest, DatabaseClient) and then use a db 
client wrapper to place as a tool using the velocity toolbox.

Regards,
Markos

On Wednesday 23 February 2005 08:10, Manish wrote:
  What would be the best approach to display DB results on page.

 I'd check out Claude's project, Velosurf.
 http://velosurf.sourceforge.net/


 Thanks for the link!! :)
 Is it feasible to use velosurf with Struts/Velocity paradigm.
 Some design restrictions require me to use action for every link on web
 page so that it passes through the custom request processor that we have.
 So need to know about this feasibility before I look into more details. Any
 inputs will be highly appreciated.

 TIA,
 - Manish




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Re: Velocity and JDBC

2005-02-23 Thread Claude Brisson
On Wed, 2005-02-23 at 12:39 +0200, Markos Charatzas wrote:
 Hm...
 
 Im quite skeptical about this...
 
 Why not use a proper OR mapping tool (e.g. hibernate), provide a complete 
 db 
 implementation (Database, DatabaseRequest, DatabaseClient) and then use a db 
 client wrapper to place as a tool using the velocity toolbox.

What do you mean by proper? bigger? ;-)
do you really mean that hibernate + a wrapper tool would be a proper
solution?

just curious...

Claude




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Re: Velocity and JDBC

2005-02-23 Thread Markos Charatzas
Well ofcourse it depends on the scale of the application.

If you want something quick and dirty you can do it with Velosurf no probs.

I was just trying to alert ppl who might jump straight to the Velosurf wagon 
to support their database driven application.

Markos

On Wednesday 23 February 2005 14:51, Claude Brisson wrote:
 On Wed, 2005-02-23 at 12:39 +0200, Markos Charatzas wrote:
  Hm...
 
  Im quite skeptical about this...
 
  Why not use a proper OR mapping tool (e.g. hibernate), provide a
  complete db implementation (Database, DatabaseRequest, DatabaseClient)
  and then use a db client wrapper to place as a tool using the velocity
  toolbox.

 What do you mean by proper? bigger? ;-)
 do you really mean that hibernate + a wrapper tool would be a proper
 solution?

 just curious...

 Claude




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Re: Velocity and JDBC

2005-02-23 Thread Claude Brisson
On Wed, 2005-02-23 at 16:52 +0200, Markos Charatzas wrote:
 Well ofcourse it depends on the scale of the application.

precisely, not necessarily

 If you want something quick and dirty you can do it with Velosurf no probs.

yes, you can - but even in large applications I'm not totally certain
that the choice of Hibernate is always pertinent (it depends if you
really need persistence or not). Hence, Velosurf can be a clean
choice.

 I was just trying to alert ppl who might jump straight to the Velosurf wagon 
 to support their database driven application.

seems fair

Claude

 Markos
 
 On Wednesday 23 February 2005 14:51, Claude Brisson wrote:
  On Wed, 2005-02-23 at 12:39 +0200, Markos Charatzas wrote:
   Hm...
  
   Im quite skeptical about this...
  
   Why not use a proper OR mapping tool (e.g. hibernate), provide a
   complete db implementation (Database, DatabaseRequest, DatabaseClient)
   and then use a db client wrapper to place as a tool using the velocity
   toolbox.
 
  What do you mean by proper? bigger? ;-)
  do you really mean that hibernate + a wrapper tool would be a proper
  solution?
 
  just curious...
 
  Claude
 
 
 
 
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RE: Velocity and JDBC

2005-02-22 Thread Tim Colson \(tcolson\)
 Is it possible to use straight JDBC/SQL type of calls in 
 Velocity directly for web page creation?
Sure thing. Just drop in a tool object that can make JDBC/SQL calls

 What would be the best approach to display DB results on page.
I'd check out Claude's project, Velosurf.
http://velosurf.sourceforge.net/

Cheers,
Timo

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Re: Velocity and JDBC

2005-02-22 Thread Manish
 What would be the best approach to display DB results on page.
I'd check out Claude's project, Velosurf.
http://velosurf.sourceforge.net/


Thanks for the link!! :)
Is it feasible to use velosurf with Struts/Velocity paradigm.
Some design restrictions require me to use action for every link on web page
so that it passes through the custom request processor that we have.
So need to know about this feasibility before I look into more details. Any
inputs will be highly appreciated.

TIA,
- Manish




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