Re: Most stable OS

2001-07-28 Thread Steve Moody
At 5:21 PM -0700 7/28/2001, Alex Allee wrote: 2) One thing I'll never understand is why the Macintosh, with it's ease of use, has always had error codes that are so user unfriendly. Even DOS has no error message as unfriendly and Macintosh Error codes. Windows 95 comes close, however.

Re: Errors on the Mac (was Re: Most stable OS)

2001-07-26 Thread Steve Moody
At 1:44 AM -0700 7/26/2001, Gregg Eshelman wrote: I've been unlucky enough to see the work of lazy Windows programmers with messages like An error has occured: Error. [OK] Can't remember what program that was. That's nothing. I have a jpg of an error window that CC:Mail for Windows 3.1 gave

Self crashing apps. Re: Most Stable OS

2001-07-25 Thread Gregg Eshelman
Netscape's favorite tactic is scribbling over itself in memory, at least on Windows. How do I tell if a Mac app crash is due to the app overwriting part of its main executable in RAM? At any rate, especially after 20+ years, _I_ find it amazing that programmers still haven't come up with a

Re: Self crashing apps. Re: Most Stable OS

2001-07-25 Thread James S Jones
This is one of the advantages of Netscape on the classic Mac OS. Any application creates it's own memory partition and only the most remarkably buggy apps will overwrite another app's partition (maybe something not 32-bit clean?). Netscape and some others go one step further. Once it has a

Re: Self crashing apps. Re: Most Stable OS

2001-07-25 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- James S Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is one of the advantages of Netscape on the classic Mac OS. Any application creates it's own memory partition and only the most remarkably buggy apps will overwrite another app's partition (maybe something not 32-bit clean?). Netscape and

Re: Most stable OS

2001-07-25 Thread Darren
Very off topic, please excuse me. Maybe this tread will help some body. I hope. Not my words but those that may come David Robinson wrote: The problem with that is that my crashes usually occur only when working. For example, I may be using Pagemaker 6.5, and/or Photoshop 5.5, with Netscape

Re: Most stable OS

2001-07-25 Thread Cameron Kaiser
I really don't use it very much. Acutally, I hate it. But with all this nasty comment about Netscape I thought I'd try it for a while and see if IE Express worked better (fewer crashes while working in apps) than Netscape. Frankly, I prefer Netscape. But if it's as buggy as everyone seems

Re: Most stable OS

2001-07-25 Thread Marten van de Kraats
You might consider using Eudora, by far the best e-mail app, that I know of, and there are nice 68k versions available. In my experience Netscape runs much nicer on 68030 macs than IE. Netscape 2.02 is the fastest, but on a IIfx Netscape 3 and 4 work pretty well. IE is dog slow. You might

Re: Most stable OS

2001-07-25 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- David Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Regarding Pagmaker 6.5, it crasher quite frequently on it's on. I beginning to wonder if I should have stayed with my old friend Pagemaker 6.0. PM 6.5 crashed this morning as I was attempting to run Outlook Express. David Its always so much fun

Re: Most stable OS

2001-07-25 Thread Amber Rhea
on 7/25/01 1:37 PM, (Vintage Macs) at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really don't use it very much. Acutally, I hate it. But with all this nasty comment about Netscape I thought I'd try it for a while and see if IE Express worked better (fewer crashes while working in apps) than Netscape.

Re: Most stable OS

2001-07-25 Thread Kyle Hansen
Gregg Eshelman wrote: I'm still trying to find out what a -671 error is. -671 is a connection proccesses error usually associated with an Open Transport crash. Kyle H. Hansen -- Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning? George W. Bush -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by

browsers and email on vintage Macs (was Re: Most stable OS)

2001-07-25 Thread Amber Rhea
on 7/25/01 4:21 PM, (Vintage Macs) at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I prefer IE and Outlook Express. I've had almost no problems with crashes. I used to use Netscape for web and email but I actually had more problems with Netscape than with M$ (sad to say). And you run these programs on a

Re: Most stable OS

2001-07-25 Thread Steve Moody
At 12:20 PM -0700 7/25/2001, Kyle Hansen wrote: I'm still trying to find out what a -671 error is. -671 is a connection proccesses error usually associated with an Open Transport crash. 1) Where can I find a list of error codes and what they mean? 2) One thing I'll never understand is

Errors on the Mac (was Re: Most stable OS)

2001-07-25 Thread the pickle
At 20:29 -0400 on 25/07/01, Steve Moody wrote: At 12:20 PM -0700 7/25/2001, Kyle Hansen wrote: I'm still trying to find out what a -671 error is. -671 is a connection proccesses error usually associated with an Open Transport crash. 1) Where can I find a list of error codes and what they

Re: Most stable OS

2001-07-25 Thread Andrew W. Hill
At 12:20 PM -0700 7/25/2001, Kyle Hansen wrote: I'm still trying to find out what a -671 error is. -671 is a connection proccesses error usually associated with an Open Transport crash. 1) Where can I find a list of error codes and what they mean? Install MACSBug. Or rather, get

Re: Most stable OS

2001-07-24 Thread Michael J. Flaherty
I have lots of FINDER crashes Try allocating more RAM to the finder, an operation that requires the FinderFixer control panel or something similar. Download it here. http://www.hidacc.av.org/pages/suggest_fw_and_sw.html#Finder%20Fixer MJF -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by

Re: Most stable OS

2001-07-24 Thread Steve Moody
At 8:26 AM -0500 7/24/2001, David Robinson wrote: Hey speaking of the most stable OS around, I have a PM 8500 with a XLR G3 Upgrade running at 333 mhz and 240 mgs of RAM. I have lots of FINDER crashes with System 9.1. Anybody know what to do about this stupid problem. I have already tried

Re: Most Stable OS

2001-07-24 Thread Marten van de Kraats
Wait a minute It just happened again. This time I was working in Photoshop 5.5 with Pagemaker 6.5 open and Netscape open, working a photo from an internet download into Photoshop. (Î was editing the photo at the time of the crash.) This is when most of my crashes occur. David Wait a minute

Re: Most Stable OS

2001-07-24 Thread James S Jones
Part of the problem with Netscape 2.0 to 4.7x is that it was designed to be internally multithreaded, using a Netscape thread manager, rather than a system one*. The root of this came from Mac System 7 and 16-bit Windows. Those systems didn't have thread managers. The result is a monstrously

What is the most stable OS around 8.0?

2001-07-23 Thread Anand Keathley
What? G3 stuff here;-( Well, for what it's worth, 8.6 Anand -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low