Re: Speculation on ZPE

2005-02-15 Thread Frederick Sparber
If the energy (E) in the classical equation E = mc^2 intrinsically contains (is part of) the Vacuum Zero Point Energy (ZPE) then: dE = dmc^2 IOW, the classical radius of the fundamental particles, R = kq^2/Eor R = kq^2/mc^2 can be varied by"environmental" conditions that vary the intrinsic

Re: Speculation on ZPE

2005-02-15 Thread Horace Heffner
At 5:26 AM 2/15/5, Frederick Sparber wrote: If the energy (E) in the classical equation E = mc^2 intrinsically contains (is part of) the Vacuum Zero Point Energy (ZPE) then: dE = dmc^2 IOW, the classical radius of the fundamental particles, R = kq^2/E or R = kq^2/mc^2 can be varied by

Re: Speculation on ZPE

2005-02-15 Thread Horace Heffner
At 5:26 AM 2/15/5, Frederick Sparber wrote: If the energy (E) in the classical equation E = mc^2 intrinsically contains (is part of) the Vacuum Zero Point Energy (ZPE) then: dE = dmc^2 IOW, the classical radius of the fundamental particles, R = kq^2/E or R = kq^2/mc^2 can be varied by

Re: Mission Earth . . .

2005-02-15 Thread Mike Carrell
Keith wrote: . . Hey Terry, Nope, not a one. But LRH himself makes for a remarkable biographical subject. Just don't bother with the offical stuff, it's all phony and boring to boot. The real story is fascinating and well worth the few hours of reading. Here's the link

Re: Speculation on ZPE

2005-02-15 Thread Frederick Sparber
Horace Heffner wrote: At 5:26 AM 2/15/5, Frederick Sparber wrote: If the energy (E) in the classical equation E = mc^2 intrinsically contains (is part of) the Vacuum Zero Point Energy (ZPE) then: dE = dmc^2 IOW, the classical radius of the fundamental particles, R = kq^2/E or R =

Re: Speculation on ZPE

2005-02-15 Thread Jones Beene
- Original Messages - From: Frederick Sparber and Horace Heffner Does this mean that Bridgman's high pressure squeezing of water/ice dumped energy, then ZPE pumped in enough energy to allow it to explode when the pressure was released? [snip] or the 1/R^4 attractive force between the

RE: Mission Earth . . .

2005-02-15 Thread Keith Nagel
Mike writes: LRH's story is remarkable indeed and I paid close attention to his work, and his critics, for many years. He did indeed write Mission Earth and I read part of the series and then got bored with it; it is not his best writing. As for Clambake, don't assume that a collection of quotes

Best Use for Wind energy?

2005-02-15 Thread Jones Beene
Because wind energy is becoming cheaper,but isoften not available when or where it is most needed, here is a suggestion on the best way to store wind energy. Produce liquid air for atransportation fuel (i.e. energy storage medium). Let me repeat (as a query ) one more time for emphasis. Is

[OT] Scientology

2005-02-15 Thread Terry Blanton
The "Mission Earth" thread was not intended to devolve into a discussion on Scientology. Indeed, I believe the anecdote that LRH started Scientology as a result of a bet with Robert Heinlein; that, LRH could not invent a religion that would be recognized as such by the IRS. But, here it is,

RE: [OT] Scientology

2005-02-15 Thread Keith Nagel
(O)ff (T)opic for some, (O)perating (T)hetan to others... Ordinarily I'd excoriate you for not reading the links, but that joke of yours was so funny that Coyote almost choked on his rabbit breakfast... So he's willing to do some digging for you. Here's the story of Parsons and Hubbard.

Re: Iapetus and Sir Clarke

2005-02-15 Thread Rick Monteverde
Terry - Looks to me like the force from a giant impactor (or the lifting tide of a near miss with a large body) might have almost broken the moon in half, but the two sides of the enormous fissure slapped back together from gravity, raising a ridge. (Bet Harold Edgerton would have loved to get

Re: Best Use for Wind energy?

2005-02-15 Thread Mike Carrell
Horace wrote: snip [snip] ...compressors are much cheaper than electric generators, these wind farms should cost less. A critical issue is efficient extraction of energy from the wind over a range of vind velocities. Such is accomplished by the current genration of wind tubines with the help

anomalies on Iapidus

2005-02-15 Thread thomas malloy
Richard C Hoagland was interview on C to C AM a few days ago. He suggested that I read his paper on what Cassini found on Saturn's moon Iapetus. One of the tenants of natural philosophy is that straight lines, square corners, and bisymmetries don't occur naturally. The straight line in

Re: anomalies on Iapidus

2005-02-15 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to thomas malloy's message of Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:23:30 -0600: Hi, If a smaller and a larger sphere collided at just the right speed, you might get a ridge line where they joined, and the resultant object would not be spherical because the two spheres were different sizes. However it

Re: Speculation on ZPE

2005-02-15 Thread Horace Heffner
At 8:13 AM 2/15/5, Frederick Sparber wrote: Horace Heffner wrote: [snip] For example, if an electron can be confined to a 1 angstrom range then there is an uncertainty of 1.06x10^-24 kg-m/s on the momentum and thus 6.1x10^-19 J or 3.8 eV uncertainty on energy. Does this mean that Bridgman's

Re: Best Use for Wind energy?

2005-02-15 Thread Horace Heffner
At 2:57 PM 2/15/5, Mike Carrell wrote: Horace wrote: snip [snip] ...compressors are much cheaper than electric generators, these wind farms should cost less. I did not write the above. In fact I questioned it. Jones wrote it. Home heating efficiency and cost can be much improved by using

Cost comparison compressor

2005-02-15 Thread Jones Beene
...compressors are much cheaper than electric generators, these wind farms should cost less. I did not write the above. In fact I questioned it. Jones wrote it. Yup, I wrote it and stand by it. Here is an example. Maybe you can find a contrary one... (I'm sure you can, but it stands to

Re: Best Use for Wind energy?

2005-02-15 Thread Horace Heffner
At 12:22 PM 2/15/5, Jones Beene wrote: Anyway at the wind mill itself air can be compressed and then cooled and recompressed however many times is necessary to give liquid air at an optimum efficiency of 48 % of the torque. I disagree with Mike that this process is not as efficient at low air

Re: Best Use for Wind energy?

2005-02-15 Thread Jed Rothwell
Horace Heffner wrote: Though this is all good discussion and the approach may yield practical results for a while, it is important to realize that wind can not solve all the worlds energy problems, and working on a new *source* of energy is the big problem. I'll bet wind could supply half the

Re: Best Use for Wind energy?

2005-02-15 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: I'll bet wind could supply half the world's energy, especially in countries far from the equator. It could easily supply all energy in the U.S. and Northern Europe, and most in northern China. And for that matter, I think ocean currents such as the Gulf Stream could supply way more

Re: Best Use for Wind energy?

2005-02-15 Thread Jones Beene
Horace Though this is all good discussion and the approach may yield practical results for a while, it is important to realize that wind can not solve all the worlds energy problems, and working on a new *source* of energy is the big problem. Yes. I agree with most of what has been said here.

Re: Best Use for Wind energy?

2005-02-15 Thread Michael Foster
I think one of the best arguments in favor of the cryo-fuel idea is that it's evolutionary. All of the processes are known and only need to be scaled up and made more efficient. Storage and transport would automatically be more efficient on a larger scale. Although oil companies wouldn't be

Re: Best Use for Wind energy?

2005-02-15 Thread Horace Heffner
At 5:31 PM 2/15/5, Jed Rothwell wrote: Though this is all good discussion and the approach may yield practical results for a while, it is important to realize that wind can not solve all the worlds energy problems, and working on a new *source* of energy is the big problem. I'll bet wind could

Re: Cost comparison compressor

2005-02-15 Thread Horace Heffner
At 2:03 PM 2/15/5, Jones Beene wrote: ...compressors are much cheaper than electric generators, these wind farms should cost less. I did not write the above. In fact I questioned it. Jones wrote it. Yup, I wrote it and stand by it. Here is an example. Maybe you can find a contrary one...

Re: Best Use for Wind energy?

2005-02-15 Thread Mike Carrell
Jones wrote: snip Anyway at the wind mill itself air can be compressed and then cooled and recompressed however many times is necessary to give liquid air at an optimum efficiency of 48 % of the torque. I disagree with Mike that this process is not as efficient at low air speeds, but someone like

Re: Bottomless well

2005-02-15 Thread thomas malloy
thomas malloy wrote: and Jed Rothwell responded; Michael Medved, michaelmedved.com interviewed Peter Huber author of The Bottomless Well. What hemisphere, exactly? If that include South America (Venezuela) it is probably true. There is also a lot of oil in Canada and Alaska. Of course it

Re: Speculation on ZPE

2005-02-15 Thread RC Macaulay
Necessarymechanical systems required for a Bridgman water/ice theme to function in an internal combustion engine can be worked out. It is possible to create the vacuum and isolate and tailor the actual product temperature required by the usinga variation of an ejector throat and nozzle

Re: anomalies on Iapidus

2005-02-15 Thread thomas malloy
Robin Von Spaandonk replied In reply to thomas malloy's message of Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:23:30 -0600: Hi, If a smaller and a larger sphere collided at just the right speed, you might get a ridge line where they joined, and the resultant object would not be spherical because the two spheres were

Re: anomalies on Iapidus

2005-02-15 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to thomas malloy's message of Tue, 15 Feb 2005 22:56:48 -0600: Hi, [snip] If a smaller and a larger sphere collided at just the right speed, you might get a ridge line where they joined, and the resultant object would not be spherical because the two spheres were different sizes.