uh sorry I mean suck and push the oil. instead of
suck and push the oil force.
Harry
Harry Veeder wrote:
I notice you said they can be MADE TO WORK by sucking and pushing
Evidently they only work in the oil medium if another force exists
to suck and push the oil force.
Now if such
No extra force in oil, it works just the same as a lifter it's an EHD thruster,
called ion drag pump when the medium is a dielectric liquid and the thruster
is stationary: oil molecules are ionized, and ion current from a sharper
electrode to a flatter electrode entrains neutrals.
You can
Hi John,
Building a nanomachine or a space elevator is hardly near the scale of
changing the Earths climate. In case you are not aware, volcanism and
seismicity have been increasing steadily in the past 6 years. There are
many volcanoes that have not erupted for over 10,000 years, which are
I know Michel thought I was kidding her...
...
Dave
Even worse than I thought. Dave when the MIW come don't forget mentioning you
talked with a female Vo :)))
Michel
Hi Michel,
I know Michel thought I was kidding her...
...
Dave
Even worse than I thought. Dave when the MIW come don't forget mentioning
you talked with a female Vo :)))
Michel
What are you trying to say, that you are as crazy as I am? I doubt it! My
life is so bizarre even I have
- Original Message -
From: Harry Veeder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 1:56 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]: Lifters
I did it with a balance beam and a pointer, and saw nothing significant.
Also did it set up as a torsion arm.
How did you calibrate
Before you try dating me Dave, you should know that female Vo's exist only in
your dreams :)
http://www.thinkbabynames.com/meaning/1/Michel
Michel
- Original Message -
From: David Thomson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 1:54 PM
Subject: RE:
Hi Kyle,
Classical spacetime is not recognized as a medium, just some mathematics
and tensors.
And that means what? Do you really think the Universe is made out of
dimensionless math equations?
It will probably be eventually recognized that there is a physical
something to the vacuum, but
- Original Message -
From: Michel Jullian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 7:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]: Re: Re: Lifters
No extra force in oil, it works just the same as a lifter it's an EHD
thruster, called ion drag pump when the medium is a
Steven Krivit wrote:
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain Mr. Branson.
http://www.newenergytimes.com/SR/CashIn/CashonClimateChange.html
So it seems iron fertilization does enhance algae growth after all, by creating
more or less instantaneous blooms, and the (old) idea is not
On 2/16/07, David Thomson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Michel,
Beware of the MIB Dave, unless the MIW get hold of you first? :)
I have no clue what you are talking about.
Men In White . . . coats, that is. BTW, 'Michel' is usually a man's
name in french.
Probably the first rap record:
Oh and to remove the ethical fly from the whale oil ointment: _whale
liposuction_ to harvest the bladders without killing the whales :)) I googled
up the expression and found it had already been suggested e.g.:
http://swcamborne.com/archives/business-success/liposuction-for-whales
It remains
Oops I mistyped, I meant harvest the blubbers (fat layer under the whale
skin, from which whale oil is extracted) not the bladders:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blubber
Michel
- Original Message -
From: Michel Jullian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, February
Harry:
The raison d'être of GR is to explain gravity.
Stephen:
That's right. But you don't need it to resolve the twins problem, which
takes place in flat space.
I am confused.
In your first response to me you started off by saying the opposite:
Harry:
That works in SR, but the
Kyle R. Mcallister wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Harry Veeder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 1:56 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]: Lifters
I did it with a balance beam and a pointer, and saw nothing significant.
Also did it set up as a
Bacterial Gene May Affect Climate And Weather
Science Daily http://www.sciencedaily.com/
A University of Queensland microbiologist is part of an international team
that has identified a bacterial gene that may affect climate and weather.
Dr Phil Bond, from UQ's Advanced Wastewater Management
This is good.
Your mechanical analogy is becoming more refined.
Harry
Michel Jullian wrote:
No extra force in oil, it works just the same as a lifter it's an EHD
thruster, called ion drag pump when the medium is a dielectric liquid and
the thruster is stationary: oil molecules are ionized,
On 2/17/07, Stephen A. Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
An accelerometer is a purely local
instrument (which, of course, can't tell the difference between gravity
and acceleration).
Actually there is a way, or technically 2 ways at least. (besides the fact
that experiments have shown that
In reply to Michel Jullian's message of Sat, 17 Feb 2007 15:34:05 +0100:
Hi,
[snip]
Oh and to remove the ethical fly from the whale oil ointment: _whale
liposuction_ to harvest the bladders without killing the whales :)) I googled
up the expression and found it had already been suggested e.g.:
And, from Russia, with love:
http://www.vialls.com/wecontrolamerica/peakoil.html
- Original Message -
From: John Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 9:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]: FW: Einstein's Twin Paradox
...Talking about centrifugal force, you do know that
by running around a bucket of water you incurve the water as
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From: Harry Veeder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]: Lifters
So the lifter was oriented so it would move horizontally rather than
vertically ?
In some tests, it was set to move horizontally, in
- Original Message -
From: Harry Veeder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 12:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]: Re: Re: Lifters
Then why did you say made to work by sucking and pumping the oil?
What I mean by that is, the lifter worked, as in
Lehmann also claims Bio-Char or Agri-Char in the soil also sequesters
atmospheric CO2.
Over the years I have noticed that flood irrigation of farmland produces higher
crop yields
than non-aerated well water, implying that soil CO2 made available to the plant
root system aids plant growth.
Lehmann (Cornell University) also claims Bio-Char or Agri-Char in the soil also
sequesters atmospheric CO2.
Over the years I have noticed that flood irrigation of farmland produces higher
crop yields
than non-aerated well water, implying that soil CO2 made available to the plant
root system
Kyle R. Mcallister wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Harry Veeder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 12:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]: Re: Re: Lifters
Then why did you say made to work by sucking and pumping the oil?
What I mean by that
Hi Robin, thanks for biting :)
You're right but the whales would probably make more fat since we would feed
them, and we wouldn't have to draw all of it. And we would keep them in warm to
temperate waters anyway, where solar exposure is high, for fast plankton growth
rate. In any case if
Michel Jullian wrote:
Mmm, growing the algae without harvesting them _could_ be sufficient
(pending calculations), but only for a one off operation: present
excess CO2 sequestered into the living algae biomass increase,
period. Could win the prize though.
What surprises me most with this
- Original Message -
From: Stephen A. Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 12:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]: Russ George challenges Branson on ABC
...
Haven't been following this thread closely ... but a number of years ago
someone tried the
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
Sounds awful and cruel I realize (reminds me of that whale briefly
brought into existence together with the petunia pot in The Hitch
Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy, was that in the film Fred?), but... if
our own survival is at stake, well... your thoughts
More on marine algae etc. Of course, one does not need to pyrolyse the (oil
expressed) algae into charcoal. Maybe fertilising the growth of
coccolithophores would be even quicker for Branson. Chalk is formed in
shallow waters by the gradual accumulation of the calcite mineral remains of
We are all in-seine aren't we, this is Vortex after all :)
In any case I think we all agree on the function to be implemented:
Local iron fertilization of the ocean surface On the fly harvesting of the
algae bloom Conversion to oil and possibly charcoal
The rest is mere implementation
Note this might be a better way to save the whales than leaving them alone :)
And there may be painless ways to harvest the blubber.
Michel
- Original Message -
From: Nick Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Vortex-L vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 1:51 AM
Subject: [Vo]:
A few days ago I wrote does anyone know if algal strains exist that can
fix their own nitrogen from
the atmosphere -or would they need nitrogenous fertiliser added?? without
Googling it. Well they do.
http://www.biologie.uni-hamburg.de/b-online/e34/34b.htm or more simply
You Can Have It Both Ways, Nick.
The algae husk contains sugars-starch-cellulose (carbohydrates CxHyOz)n
the same as
land plants which at about 200 to 350 C exothermally decompose to strong
Carbon-Carbon Bonds giving off Carbon Monoxide, H2O, and some H2 along with
CO2,
ask any fireman that
I forgot to mention, the process should be repeated on the move in open sea
rather than e.g. in a bay, so that each iteration occurs at a place where
dissolved CO2 and nutrients have not been recently depleted by the previous
runs (it takes time for those resources to be restored)
Michel
On 2/17/07, Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Time will tell. But unlike the Steorn shenanigans and
carefully inflicted drama, this time we will likely
have a pretty good answer by next week.
It looks like a Bendini variant. Reading the thread, the experimenter
admits that the motor stops
On 2/17/07, RC Macaulay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Howdy Vorts,
A link one of my Aggie undergrads sent me.
http://www.popsci.com/popsci/science/873aae7bf86c0110vgnvcm104eecbccdrcrd.html
The plasma convertor is managed by DAVID LYNCH! I will never forget
the first movie of his that I saw:
On 2/18/07, Michel Jullian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How does this whale oil scheme sound now ?
Somehow, even crazier.
And no, not crazy like a fox.
Michel Jullian wrote:
Note this might be a better way to save the whales than leaving them alone :)
And there may be painless ways to harvest the blubber.
Michel
By liposuction??
Harry
Terry Blanton wrote:
On 2/17/07, Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Time will tell. But unlike the Steorn shenanigans and
carefully inflicted drama, this time we will likely
have a pretty good answer by next week.
It looks like a Bendini variant. Reading the thread, the experimenter
On 2/17/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is clearly the Smoking Gun ***UNLESS*** Mike is being deceitful. Only
time will tell which is the case.
I hope you are right. Here is the post to which I referred:
Here are some help tips from Mike( User HMM)
Yes 6 magnets on
Harry Veeder wrote:
Harry:
The raison d'être of GR is to explain gravity.
Stephen:
That's right. But you don't need it to resolve the twins problem, which
takes place in flat space.
I am confused.
In your first response to me you started off by saying the opposite:
Harry:
That
http://www.css.cornell.edu/faculty/lehmann/biochar/Biochar_projects.htm
Currently (January 2007) we conduct experiments to evaluate the effects of
bio-char on nutrient adsorption, nutrient leaching, water percolation, soil
water availability and carbon cycling as well as the stability and
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