Re: [Vo]:Magnetic pressure and magnetic temperature

2008-04-17 Thread David Jonsson
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 10:35 AM, Robin van Spaandonk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In reply to David Jonsson's message of Wed, 9 Apr 2008 08:47:15 +0200: Hi, [snip] Magnetic pressure is a well known concept. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_pressure It struck me then that other

[Vo]:V'Ger must evolve

2008-04-17 Thread OrionWorks
Got the following article originally from www.codeproject.com. It was original titled V'Ger must evolve! Amusing. See: http://space.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn13676print=true or http://tinyurl.com/5uwleq Pioneer spacecraft mystery may be laid to rest 14:30 15 April 2008 NewScientist.com

[Vo]:Best of the best near-term horizon

2008-04-17 Thread Jones Beene
Query: when does something once considered cheap, mundane, black and fairly toxic become all-important to society, if not the ultimate answer to our national survival? BTW - this has nothing at all to do with last night's debate ... If there is one defining feature of this particular

Re: [Vo]:V'Ger must evolve

2008-04-17 Thread Harry Veeder
On 17/4/2008 8:35 AM, OrionWorks wrote: Got the following article originally from www.codeproject.com. It was original titled V'Ger must evolve! Amusing. See: http://space.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn13676print=true or http://tinyurl.com/5uwleq Pioneer spacecraft mystery may be

Re: [Vo]:Best of the best near-term horizon

2008-04-17 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 12:14 PM, Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Terry, too bad the guy over at GT (Walter de Heere) who is a pioneer in graphene transistors, did not discover this technique himself... or maybe he has something else which is as effective, who knows. One can not

[Vo]:STEORN Musings

2008-04-17 Thread OrionWorks
Speaking of alternative energy companies... It's been a long dry spell since we've heard anything from STEORN, particularly since their spectacularly failed July 2007 demo debacle. My gut reaction would be to assume, sadly, that things are probably not being going well for them. Common sense

Re: [Vo]:Cavitation Weapon

2008-04-17 Thread David Jonsson
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 7:15 AM, thomas malloy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Terry Blanton wrote: More on the pistol shrimp: On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 4:34 AM, Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hunting with a cavitation pistol: I was amazed that the cavitation

Re: [Vo]:Cavitation Weapon

2008-04-17 Thread R C Macaulay
Howdy David, We have water test tank observations of vortexes shedding off the main vortex and traveling distances. These compact spirals are similar to the vid pics of the claw produced shot that travels in a spiral projectile toward the shrimp. Notice the shape of the claw is parabolic and

Re: [Vo]:Cavitation Weapon

2008-04-17 Thread David Jonsson
Here is a more scientific movie on the subject http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONQlTMUYCW4feature=related David On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 8:14 PM, R C Macaulay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy David, We have water test tank observations of vortexes shedding off the main vortex and traveling

Re: [Vo]:Best of the best near-term horizon

2008-04-17 Thread Nick Palmer
Jones wrote about graphene as an alternative to the transparent indium tin oxide solar cell. It looks promising but on page two of the article there was this dampener... They also need to improve the conductivity of their film: indium tin oxide is still hundreds of times more conductive.

Re: [Vo]:V'Ger must evolve

2008-04-17 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Harry Veeder's message of Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:46:08 -0500: Hi, [snip] Possible effects: 1) Tidal. 2) Friction with space dust. 3) Interaction with the Solar wind. 4) Uneven solar heating. 5) Gravitational interaction with the Oort cloud /or Kuiper belt (only mentioned because no one

Re: [Vo]:Best of the best near-term horizon

2008-04-17 Thread Jones Beene
Nick, Yes, this low efficiency is undoubtedly true for now. But here is the (possible) paradigm shift, and I should have tried to explain my enthusiasm as involving a paradigm shift rather than as a step-wise improvement. Even if the efficiency remains far less than for a dedicated solar

Re: [Vo]:Best of the best near-term horizon

2008-04-17 Thread Nick Palmer
Jones Beene wrote:- Even if the efficiency remains far less than for a dedicated solar panel, with this kind of shift in economics, that lower efficiency is not the real issue I wasn't being negative. In fact, for a long time I have thought that, apart from the research value, it is

Re: [Vo]:Best of the best near-term horizon

2008-04-17 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:23:43 -0700 (PDT): Hi, [snip] Nick, Yes, this low efficiency is undoubtedly true for now. But here is the (possible) paradigm shift, and I should have tried to explain my enthusiasm as involving a paradigm shift rather than as a

Re: [Vo]:Re: V'Ger must evolve

2008-04-17 Thread Nick Palmer
Don't shoot this down - I'm only dreaming! They also noted anomalies in five other satellites apart from one which passed by planets symmetrically (i.e orbital axis not inclined). They speculated that the rotation of the planet might have something to do with it and I thought I may as well

[Vo]:Re: Best of the best near-term horizon

2008-04-17 Thread Michel Jullian
I suspect Jones proposed a dummy as best of the best, so that the technology he deemed second best (algoil, what else ;-) would come out as the winner. Seriously though Jones, have a look at Nanosolar's latest declarations (last few days) and tell me if they still don't make sense to you:

[Vo]:On loss or gain of energy in presure volume work in solids with varying temperature

2008-04-17 Thread David Jonsson
Hi I have an idea about what this is all about http://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0508107 The authors talk about inconsistency but my understanding is that it explains two well known phenomena in everyday life. I want to hear what you say before I say more. Can anyone conclude what the two phenomena

Re: [Vo]:On loss or gain of energy in presure volume work in solids with varying temperature

2008-04-17 Thread Jones Beene
... one of them would probably be a negative expansion coefficient - i.e. freezing water, or the mischmetals which contract with applied heat Can anyone conclude what the two phenomena are? David

Re: [Vo]:On loss or gain of energy in presure volume work in solids with varying temperature

2008-04-17 Thread R C Macaulay
Sure David, Using the example of a piece of copper rod at ambient temperature, Rapidly bend the rod and it gets hot at the bend. The more rapid the bend, the hotter it gets. No inconsistency unless you wish to rewrite thermo.. which some brainiac should do soon before we tumble. Richard David

Re: [Vo]:Re: V'Ger must evolve

2008-04-17 Thread Harry Veeder
On 17/4/2008 6:01 PM, Michel Jullian wrote: I agree 100%, what would seem anomalous to me would be no anomalies in the trajectories. Michel sorry? - Original Message - From: Robin van Spaandonk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 12:01 AM

Re: [Vo]:On loss or gain of energy in presure volume work in solids with varying temperature

2008-04-17 Thread Harry Veeder
Title:Inconsistencies in the current thermodynamic description of elastic solids Authors:Jozsef Garai, Alexandre Laugier (Submitted on 17 Aug 2005) Abstract: Using the contemporary thermodynamic equations of elastic solids leads to contradictions with the fundamental statements of

Re: [Vo]:Re: Best of the best near-term horizon

2008-04-17 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Michel Jullian's message of Fri, 18 Apr 2008 01:36:24 +0200: Hi, [snip] Seriously though Jones, have a look at Nanosolar's latest declarations (last few days) and tell me if they still don't make sense to you: http://blog.nanosolar.com/ [snip] Quote: There is a reason why one of the

Re: [Vo]:Babbage's Difference Engine Lives!

2008-04-17 Thread thomas malloy
Dear Justin and Eddie; Just the toy for the nerd who has everything. If you follow the Wikipedia article you will notice the mention of steampunk a genera of writing. The TV series Wild Wild West was an example, fiction with scientific anachronisms. Building a 5-ton mechanical