RE: [Vo]:More Abductions-?Remote Viewing?

2009-09-08 Thread Harbach Jak
*** ~J. Harbach/Food for thought Remote Viewing rather than Abduction Steven wrote: I wish more skeptics could be as neutral as you try to be on this contentious subject. The fact that you express a healthy amount of doubt is reasonable and

Re: [Vo]:The cost of materials is not a barrier

2009-09-08 Thread Michel Jullian
Yes indeed, codeposition + looking for tracks in CR-39 are the keys to low cost (very low material cost, very low equipment cost), the question is, as I asked recently in another thread where I got no answer, are the numerous pits observed in those CR-39 experiments the result of

Re: [Vo]:what is the use of twitter

2009-09-08 Thread Terry Blanton
Twitter is broadcast texting using an intermediary server to relay your cell phone text messages. It's limited to 140 characters per message, or SMS (short message service) because it uses the data channel your cell phone uses for signalling. Although, due to 3G and now 4th Generation cell

Re: [Vo]:More Abductions

2009-09-08 Thread Terry Blanton
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 9:47 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnsonorionwo...@charter.net wrote: I wish more skeptics could be as neutral as you try to be on this contentious subject. The fact that you express a healthy amount of doubt is reasonable and most logical under the circumstances.

Re: [Vo]:what is the use of twitter

2009-09-08 Thread Alexander Hollins
err, computer, not phone, terminally. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 7:38 AM, Alexander Hollinsalexander.holl...@gmail.com wrote: it is able to use cell phones, but its not just for cells. many if not most twitterers do so from their phone. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 6:58 AM, Terry

Re: [Vo]:what is the use of twitter

2009-09-08 Thread Alexander Hollins
it is able to use cell phones, but its not just for cells. many if not most twitterers do so from their phone. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 6:58 AM, Terry Blantonhohlr...@gmail.com wrote: Twitter is broadcast texting using an intermediary server to relay your cell phone text messages.  It's limited

Re: [Vo]:More Abductions

2009-09-08 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Terry Sez: Ms. Hatoyama is not the first to visit a hospitable Venus. One of the first was George Adamski as his Wiki explains: However, the Ageless Wisdom teaching, which was first introduced to the West in the works of Theosophical Society co-founder H.P. Blavatsky, posits the idea that

Re: [Vo]:The cost of materials is not a barrier

2009-09-08 Thread Jed Rothwell
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: But apparently the Kitamura work only found a small effect, unlike the much larger effect that Arata reported. Kitamura used only a small sample. That is to say, he took a large sample and divided it into 6 small samples, for reasons I explained here previously.

Re: [Vo]:The cost of materials is not a barrier

2009-09-08 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 11:05 PM 9/7/2009, Harry Veeder wrote: I think one kit should focus on [anomalous] particle production rather than excess heat. See Richard Oriani research on Ludwik Kowalski's page: http://pages.csam.montclair.edu/~kowalski/cf/368project.html I already linked to Kowalski's work on the

Re: [Vo]:More Abductions

2009-09-08 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote: As far as I know, no one appears to have actually asked her point blank if she truly believes the hellishly hot Venus, the one we see in the skies and know to be the morning and evening star is the same wonderfully “green” Venus Ms. Hatoyama

Re: [Vo]:More Abductions

2009-09-08 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Terry Blanton wrote: On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 9:47 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnsonorionwo...@charter.net wrote: I wish more skeptics could be as neutral as you try to be on this contentious subject. The fact that you express a healthy amount of doubt is reasonable and most

Re: [Vo]:The cost of materials is not a barrier

2009-09-08 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 09:08 AM 9/8/2009, you wrote: Yes indeed, codeposition + looking for tracks in CR-39 are the keys to low cost (very low material cost, very low equipment cost), the question is, as I asked recently in another thread where I got no answer, are the numerous pits observed in those CR-39

Re: [Vo]:More Abductions

2009-09-08 Thread Harry Veeder
Lie back and think of England... or Venus It is what the oppressed/repressed do. harry - Original Message - From: Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009 11:18 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:More Abductions OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote: As far

[Vo]:Visible light/Infrared emissions from codep cathodes?

2009-09-08 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
Are there light emissions (visible or near-infrared, as a CCD may detect) from co-dep cathodes? CR-39 should be optically clear, before exposure to radiation, am I right about that?

Re: [Vo]:The cost of materials is not a barrier

2009-09-08 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 11:06 AM 9/8/2009, you wrote: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: But apparently the Kitamura work only found a small effect, unlike the much larger effect that Arata reported. Kitamura used only a small sample. That is to say, he took a large sample and divided it into 6 small samples, for

Re: [Vo]:More Abductions

2009-09-08 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: From Mr. Lawrence, What disgusted me about the Hatoyama tale is the lack of indication that she saw anything surprising about it. Speaking on behalf of all the rational scientist types of the world, your aversion to Hatoyama's tale is

Re: [Vo]:More Abductions

2009-09-08 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
From Mr. Lawrence, What disgusted me about the Hatoyama tale is the lack of indication that she saw anything surprising about it. Speaking on behalf of all the rational scientist types of the world, your aversion to Hatoyama's tale is certainly understandable, even from me who likes these

Re: [Vo]:The problem with things like kludged cameras

2009-09-08 Thread Alexander Hollins
well just remove the infrared filter from any webcam, and its an ir camera. quick and easy. what kind of definition are you looking for? On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Jed Rothwelljedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: . . . I suggested infrared imaging and Ed said

Re: [Vo]:ICCF Proceedings No Longer Published by a Publisher?

2009-09-08 Thread Jed Rothwell
Steven Krivit wrote: That is why I recommend a CCAL instead of a copyright. So that permission is granted automatically to anyone, under the terms of the CCAL. Consumer Consortium on Assisted Living ? Assisted living? Does that have anything do to with Health Care Death Panels? I meant

Re: [Vo]:ICCF Proceedings No Longer Published by a Publisher?

2009-09-08 Thread Steven Krivit
At 02:01 PM 9/7/2009, you wrote: Steven Krivit wrote: Let's say you want to buy a copy of the ICCF-14 proceedings in a few years from now, or you want to get permission to republish text or image from a paper in the proceedings. If Nagel and Melich are on a cruise ship to Alaska for a month,

[Vo]:The problem with things like kludged cameras

2009-09-08 Thread Jed Rothwell
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: . . . I suggested infrared imaging and Ed said maybe you could get a camera to do it for $10,000 (actually the first number he gave was higher). But what I had in mind wasn't a full blown industrial camera, but a kludged setup using a night vision device and lenses,

Re: [Vo]:The problem with things like kludged cameras

2009-09-08 Thread Jed Rothwell
Alexander Hollins wrote: well just remove the infrared filter from any webcam, and its an ir camera. quick and easy. what kind of definition are you looking for? Honestly, I do not know. If this method works, fine -- problem solved. I will grant there are times when relatively

Re: [Vo]:The problem with things like kludged cameras

2009-09-08 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 03:39 PM 9/8/2009, you wrote: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: . . . I suggested infrared imaging and Ed said maybe you could get a camera to do it for $10,000 (actually the first number he gave was higher). But what I had in mind wasn't a full blown industrial camera, but a kludged setup using

Re: [Vo]:The problem with things like kludged cameras

2009-09-08 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 04:14 PM 9/8/2009, Jed Rothwell wrote: Alexander Hollins wrote: well just remove the infrared filter from any webcam, and its an ir camera. quick and easy. what kind of definition are you looking for? Honestly, I do not know. I knew this, it's why I wrote what I wrote I'm

[Vo]:?How many veterens in Vortex?

2009-09-08 Thread Harbach Jak
1967/Summer of Love: L.A. I took a billy club protesting the war. A year later I was bleeding with my comrads and taking life to survive in that same war; the draft. I took the attitude that I was an 'in-bedded' reporter learning the 'whole' truth. I did learn, in spades. Post-my-War,

Re: [Vo]:The problem with things like kludged cameras

2009-09-08 Thread Mike Carrell
Several investigators have tried IR cameras, including the SPARWARS group. The video is posted on several siites, but I don't have the URLs at hand. The video is of codeposition on a nickel screen and is fascinating to watch, but I'm not sure what it tells one. The ordinary CMOS and CCD sensors

Re: [Vo]:The problem with things like kludged cameras

2009-09-08 Thread Jed Rothwell
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: Consider a clear piece of CR-39 on the flat bottom of a glass cell. The CR-39 has distinctive marks on the bottom. On top of it is a coiled-up gold wire, resting on it. Co-deposition. Underneath the cell, looking up, is a microscope, focused, through the CR-39, on

Re: [Vo]:The problem with things like kludged cameras

2009-09-08 Thread mixent
In reply to Abd ul-Rahman Lomax's message of Tue, 08 Sep 2009 18:58:43 -0400: Hi, [snip] How are you going to judge the results? I assume that from a whole swag of test kits, the results will vary from no tracks / cm^2 to perhaps 100 or more / cm^2. Do you then say that there was a CF reaction