I don't think there is any RF generator.
My understanding of how the process works is this
First, the nano sized powder is cleaned of impurities by being baked and
perhaps
exposed to chemicals.
Second, the nano sized powder is bathed in chemicals and baked repeatedly. This
makes it able
Yes. That's right. If you are old enough, you learned the hydrogen line in
school as 1420 megacycles. Giga was not in student's vocabulary then. This
is what we call the hyperfine structure today.
-Original Message-
From: Mark Iverson
Jones:
Did you have the right units on that RF
On 01/20/2011 01:29 AM, Harry Veeder wrote:
Would weighing the entire apparatus before and after reveal a
concealed chemical reaction?
I don't think so. The sort of reaction proposed here replaces the
reactants with solid ash, which remains on the spot, so the weight of
the apparatus won't
Deuterium kills the reaction? Amazing if true.
You have to hand it to Rossi: he finds things out. He discovers things
others do not. Like Mizuno.
- Jed
See:
http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-01-italian-scientists-cold-fusion-video.html
This is generating a lot of traffic at LENR-CANR.org.
- Jed
Playing devil's advocate in situations like this serve a useful
purpose. Honoring our skeptical bones hopefully help keep our feet
firmly planted on the ground, particularly when our wings would love
to start flapping right now! ...to soar into the stratosphere is
everyone's dream.
From: noone noone
* I don't think there is any RF generator.
The purpose of the Rossi black box is said to be a secret, but if it were
merely a DC power supply for a resistive heater, then you would be implying
a planned intent to deceive the audience, which is not impossible, but
Pierre Carbonnelle wrote to me:
Macy's report talks of a Delta OHM # HD37AB1347 Indoor Air
Quality Monitor, whose specifications are here
http://www.deltaohm.com/ver2010/uk/st_airQ.php?str=HD37AB1347.
Could this invalidate the dryness measurement ?
Maybe. I don't know enough about the
Dear Jones,
Randy Mills would not agree with your assertion.
He is waiting for the scientific analysis (that of Bologna professors) to
make an opinion of the demonstration and the generator.
If hydrinos have played a role, they can be found with the method described
e..g. in this paper:
RL Mills
Rossi on his blog explains that the heat output during the demo came
from the nuclear reaction of several picograms of Ni -- about 3 X
10E-12 gm ... a millionth of a microgram, while the mass of the
nuclear reacting H would be 1 atom of H for each atom of Ni reacting,
with the most common isotope
On 01/20/2011 10:08 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Pierre Carbonnelle wrote to me:
Macy's report talks of a Delta OHM # HD37AB1347 Indoor Air
Quality Monitor, whose specifications are here
http://www.deltaohm.com/ver2010/uk/st_airQ.php?str=HD37AB1347.
Could this invalidate the dryness
On 01/20/2011 10:48 AM, Rich Murray wrote:
Rossi on his blog explains that the heat output during the demo came
from the nuclear reaction of several picograms of Ni -- about 3 X
10E-12 gm ... a millionth of a microgram, while the mass of the
nuclear reacting H would be 1 atom of H for each
Dear Peter,
Do you know the phrase specchietto per le allodole?
It is often what happens publicly, after a furious inventor has had a
heart-to-heart talk with his attorney: Stay cool and maintain dignity, let
me handle the dirty work
Jones
From: Peter Gluck
Dear Jones,
Yes, but it is about a kind of trap. What does it mean in the context of
our discussions- re Randy?
I e-knew one of the attorneys of Randy- it was some dispute with an
Englishman re a patent.
Peter
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 6:26 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Dear Peter,
Do you
I found this comment.
Dear Pierre,
Thank you for your important questions, here are the answers:
1- the Ni powder I utilized were pure Ni, no copper . At the end of the
operations in the reactor the percentage of copper was integrally bound to the
amount of energy produced. A charge which has
He admits on his website that they have not tried components from other
suppliers.
From: Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, January 20, 2011 10:37:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Krivit relents
On 01/20/2011 09:57 AM,
Then why does BLP not produce a product?
They seem to have had a rock solid easily to replicate technology for a decade.
From: Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, January 20, 2011 10:30:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Deuterium kills
They have a complex technology, needs a lot of development, can be
replicated but no easily. Take please a look to the papers at the
BlackLightPower website. They will demonstrate later this year their CIHT
technology- it generates electricity. I have worked 40 years in the chemical
industry nad I
The information about the ceramic comes from the following:
Dr. Brian Ahern presented the tenth talk, “Inverse Capillary Discharge for
Amplifying LANR.” Ahern has been very intrigued by the recent work by Rossi
and
Focardi (http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/FocardiSanewenergy.pdf) involving
Do you have Skype? Could we talk on there?
From: Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, January 20, 2011 12:39:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Deuterium kills the reaction?
They have a complex technology, needs a lot of development, can
No, I am rather deaf- not completely anyway- I enjoy good music.
You can write me at peter.gl...@gmail.com and I will answer immediately,
with pleasure.
Peter
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 7:41 PM, noone noone thesteornpa...@yahoo.comwrote:
Do you have Skype? Could we talk on there?
Did anyone who watched the video closely notice a coax cable coming from the
black (actually blue) box?
If there is no coax there is no RF, so this hypothesis could be dead in the
water. Unfortunately the resolution is not very high on any of the stills -
and I am not going to view the vids
Hello Everyone,
I am not a scientist. But I have been following alternative energy for a while.
For the past week I have been digging for hours trying to find additional
information about Rossi's technology and comparing it to BLP's effect. I have
came to the conclusion from what we know right
Too many unknown unknowns mainly on Rossi's side to answer now.
The role of transmutation not known, how much % of the heat released during
those 6 months can it explain. Are hydrinos formed in the Rossi cell?
Peter
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 8:26 PM, noone noone thesteornpa...@yahoo.comwrote:
Noone,
Thanks for the references regarding the ceramic and the 30% transmutation of
Ni to cu after 6 months of operation (guilty of not doing my homework). I will
google these further to see if I can find any additional support. As far as my
comment on the need for asymmetry I am simply
In P powered Ham radio the DC is supplied out to the antenna and RF generated
locally - extremely efficient and no need for shielding as you are essentially
modulating the aerial and want it to radiate.
From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 1:07 PM
To:
See:
http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2011-01/italian-scientists-claim-dubious-cold-fusion-breakthrough
http://tinyurl.com/4c768rx
After casting dispersions they had the following to say:
But the duo does have something going for them in
the fact that they’ve demonstrated their device
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hiney
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com wrote:
Erm -- Rossi, not Rossi and Focardi. I haven't read anything indicating
Focardi knows what the secret ingredient is -- as far as I know, only
Rossi knows.
Focardi stated that he indeed did not know the nature of the
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 12:27 PM, noone noone thesteornpa...@yahoo.com wrote:
Then why does BLP not produce a product?
I think Jones has pointed out why. They generate radioactive ash.
T
On 01/20/2011 03:44 PM, Terry Blanton wrote:
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com wrote:
Erm -- Rossi, not Rossi and Focardi. I haven't read anything indicating
Focardi knows what the secret ingredient is -- as far as I know, only
Rossi knows.
In reply to Rich Murray's message of Thu, 20 Jan 2011 08:48:32 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
Rossi on his blog explains that the heat output during the demo came
from the nuclear reaction of several picograms of Ni -- about 3 X
10E-12 gm ... a millionth of a microgram, while the mass of the
nuclear reacting
In reply to noone noone's message of Thu, 20 Jan 2011 02:11:47 -0800 (PST):
Hi,
[snip]
Also, I do not see how the reaction runs away when the device is turned off.
The Papp engine also exploded when the power was removed.
Regards,
Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Thu, 20 Jan 2011 06:57:15 -0800:
Hi,
[snip]
Again, the need for RF is NOT as a heater, but as a means of spin flipping
hydrogen to attain negative temperature in this (highly speculative)
hypothesis. Rossi cannot mention RF as an input in the patent, since RF
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
Is Rossi honest?
If he is, it's for real.
As of Friday, Jan. 14, this question no longer hangs on Rossi's honesty.
Thank goodness!
If he isn't, then a chemical scam, using thermite or some other
high-energy-density fuel, hasn't been ruled out. Furthermore, in
Hi Robin,
Surely that [RF] would only preclude him from getting a patent if it were
the only claim? Many patents include aspects of other patents.
Well, maybe not - but I am backing off the RF possibility anyway without
more evidence for it.
It was offered as a an effective way to stimulate
Stephen wrote:
In the latter case, one can assume there will be delays and unexpected
problems with continuing to
create the effect on demand a few months down the road...
I think that is what happened with his grant with the DOD... perhap's Jones
might know more about
this, but I started
Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com wrote:
That was in previous tests, not in this particular one-hour
run. I do not know whether Levi et al. observed any long-duration
runs, but other people have.
In that case, the public demonstration on Jan 14 was unnecessary --
right?
Au contraire,
Nagel revised this document a little, in response to conversations with
various people and unfolding developments:
http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/NagelDJchecklistf.pdf
- Jed
By the way, Nagel addresses the hidden chemical scenario:
5. The test should be repeated at least three times, with each conducted
for a
continuous period of sufficient duration to strongly exclude the possibility
of the
measured exit energy being from chemicals stored within the device and then
Here are some recent messages from:
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=360#comments
Apparently there is a high temperature probe available for this model.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Brian Josephson
January 20th, 2011 at 11:32 AM
Some queries have been raised regarding the meter
In Jed's posting of comments between Josephson and Rossi, Rossi says of the dry
steam test,
I was terrorized of that test, because should something go wrong I would have
been killed, but I
accepted the test because I had total and full trust in the Scientists.
He doesn't mean he would have been
Mark Iverson zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
He doesn't mean he would have been physically killed!
I hope you are right about that. I hope he does not fear getting blow up.
He is well aware of the reason for doing the test, and that a finding of
wet steam could seriously jeopardize his
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Thu, 20 Jan 2011 20:31:38 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
But we knew all along there has to be a control factor
somewhere, because the reaction manifestly does turn on, turn up, and turn
off, sometimes quickly. It must be responding to some stimulus.
[snip]
According to
On 01/20/2011 09:27 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Thanks for your clarification re the humidity instrumentation, Mr.
Rossi. I see in theinformation sheet that there is indeed a probe
available with 'application range' up to 150 deg. C (though
confusingly it says below it sensor operating
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
On 01/20/2011 01:29 AM, Harry Veeder wrote:
Would weighing the entire apparatus before and after reveal a concealed
chemical reaction?
I don't think so. The sort of reaction proposed here replaces the reactants
with solid ash, which remains on the spot, so the
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