On Feb 23, 2011, at 4:09 PM, Dennis wrote:
I am not too good at looking at Electron microscope pictures
perhaps someone here can
help me understand Rossi's pictures in his patents. us20110005506A1
http://www.google.com/patents?
id=84vwEBAJpg=PA1lpg=PA1dq=us20110005506A1
Correction. I just noticed the two Ca creating Cs + H reactions do
not produce initial negative energy, thus should produce an immediate
strong force reaction. Production of potassium from this is
unlikely, though calcium should dominate the reaction products. Also
the radiation (34
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 3:04 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
a...@lomaxdesign.comwrote:
At 04:31 PM 2/21/2011, Joshua Cude wrote:
You are arguing with a straw man, Joshua.
You're call yourself a straw man?
It's obvious that many scientists do not accept cold fusion. So people
write to explain
I have to be careful about not performing specific union activity while at
work. This brief reply was sent from home.
I'm sure there are corrupt union officials, just as I'm sure there are
corrupt corporate executives. As the old saying goes power corrupts and
absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Peter,
No, ultrasound would not turn up on any video as the microphones only go up
to about 10 kHz. Lower harmonics are doubtful due to the lead shielding.
Some few people are annoyed by ultrasound, and can tell if it is present -
even if they cannot exactly 'hear' it.
From: Peter
I have already asked. My suggestion was that somebody should bring a dog to
the next demo (official or mot) poor dogs hear the ultrasound and
are repelled by it, get panicked. Postmen use such devices to protect
themselves against dog biting.
Waiting for an answer.
Peter
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at
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To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Non-standard kinds of nuclear fission
See:
http://photo.sankei.jp.msn.com/highlight/data/2011/02/24/maiko/
I can't decide if this looks grotesque or beautiful.
As you see, they still have a few maiko (geisha-in-training) in Japan.
The women shown here are training for a dance, I gather, Kyo-odori
(Kyoto Dance), in Kyoto,
Rich Murray rmfor...@gmail.com wrote:
During a long meditation today, I wondered about the floor under Rossi's
demo -- is there a space under it that could allow wires or thin metal tapes
to carry 15 KW electric power from public electric power on a different
meter than that for the
One other comment on Rossi's patent application.
It probably is a smoke screen (well-planned strategic diversion).
By that I mean that it is clearly poorly drafted and almost worthless, and
moreover I think he knows this - and indeed has actually planned it this
way.
There are likely
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
I can't decide if this looks grotesque or beautiful.
It is indeed classic.
T
At 01:30 AM 2/24/2011, you wrote:
Not being able to concede a point is a clear sign of someone
with an ulterior motive, or a pathological skeptic who simply can't
accept things which challenge
their understanding of things. Not surprising... He reminds me of
some of the worst editors on
http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/arxiv/23803/
Do the Italians believe in 'coincidence' ? (i.e. that aligned events which
are apparently unconnected are not truly random but are meme-influenced)
The title of one of the papers is Can Pressure Waves Speed Up Nuclear
Decay? by Fabio Cardone in
On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 11:24: Horace Heffner wrote
[snip] The following 1993 article includes my quantitative treatment of this
approach:
http://mtaonline.net/~hheffner/ZPE-CasimirThrust.pdf
Horace,
I was able to follow your paper and agree with your results but
have some
--- On Thu, 2/24/11, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
Subject: [Vo]:COMPLETELY OFF TOPIC News topix photo of maiko
(geisha-in-training)
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com vortex-l@eskimo.com
Date: Thursday, February 24, 2011, 7:20 AM
See:
It seems like the field needs a new improved experiment showing helium/heat.
Joshua, can you specify some parameters that would convince you?
Sent from my iPhone.
Greco-Roman
At 02:05 AM 2/24/2011, Rich Murray wrote:
Abd,
Thanks for your generous, civil response to Terry's idiot -- uh,
naturally, it increases my confidence in you when you show up as the
only one to fully understand and support my simple The Emperor has no
clothes... critique about the error by
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
a...@lomaxdesign.comwrote:
The key that something was really off was, though, that he'd make sweeping
statements that were clearly false, such as no peer-reviewed confirmation of
heat/helium after Miles in 1993. I cited the
Charles wrote:
Isn't it more likely that the skeptics simply think the field is a joke,
rather than that they're
intimidated by the weight of the positive evidence?
Yes, given the ridicule that CF has received over the years, that is certainly
a good possibility...
We're very complex beings and
This is a resend, with a different subject heading, as apparently the first
posting triggered an ISP filter in cyber-space.
In addition to the three usual suspects in nuclear fission:
1) thermal neutron induced fission
2) fast neutron induced fission
which happen via
The Greco- Hol-e-y Roman Empire
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 11:46 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:PiezoFission or K-capture ?
Greco-Roman
On Feb 24, 2011, at 8:33 AM, Jones Beene wrote:
This is a resend, with a different subject heading, as apparently
the first posting triggered an ISP filter in cyber-space.
Say, I got a message to that effect,Symantec Email Proxy deleted the
following email message::
Resent-From:
Because of the multiple uses of words like nuclear and fission and fusion, the
message was FWDed to
the Department of Homeland Security... Jones, warm up the tea and crumpets...
you'll be having some
expected, but uninvited, visitors soon... :-)
-Mark
_
From: Horace Heffner
On Feb 24, 2011, at 7:01 AM, Roarty, Francis X wrote:
On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 11:24: Horace Heffner wrote
[snip] The following 1993 article includes my quantitative
treatment of this approach:
http://mtaonline.net/~hheffner/ZPE-CasimirThrust.pdf
Horace,
I was able to follow
Hafnium reactions, Hf + H reactions, like Cs reactions, do not
produce initial negative energy, thus should produce an immediate
strong force reaction. Production of both potassium and Ca from this
source is likely, though calcium should dominate the reaction
products. Also the radiation
I think one of the lessons of Rossi's success so far is that researchers
should aim to produce a larger reaction, if they can. 12 kW is too large in
some ways. But I suppose a typical experiment produces a fraction of a watt.
10 W or more would be more persuasive. It has emotional appeal. It shows
On Feb 23, 2011, at 5:47 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Tue, 22 Feb 2011 13:35:03
-0900:
Hi,
[snip]
This 270kWh per 0.4 g if hydrogen is obviously well beyond chemical
if the consumables actually are H and Ni. The energy E per H is:
E =
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Mark Iverson zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
Because of the multiple uses of words like nuclear and fission and fusion,
the message was FWDed to the Department of Homeland Security... Jones, warm
up the tea and crumpets... you'll be having some expected, but
Robin,
I don't understand- excuse where is the pressure of hydrogen measured? It is
adsorbed absorbed in the nanometric nickel, the temperature increases there
up to say 400 C- I don't think the reactor has a manometer on it.
Peter
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 10:39 PM, Horace Heffner
In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Thu, 24 Feb 2011 10:56:08 -0900:
Hi,
The reaction
Ni-60 + 4 H (cluster) = Ca-40 + Mg-24 + 13.5 MeV
readily produces Calcium.
Hafnium reactions, Hf + H reactions, like Cs reactions, do not
produce initial negative energy, thus should produce an
At 10:34 AM 2/24/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Rich Murray mailto:rmfor...@gmail.comrmfor...@gmail.com wrote:
During a long meditation today, I wondered about the floor under
Rossi's demo -- is there a space under it that could allow wires or
thin metal tapes to carry 15 KW electric power from
In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Thu, 24 Feb 2011 11:39:36 -0900:
Hi,
[snip]
..we also don't know how much of the H remained in the Ni after the
reaction was
finished.
Yes, very true. The 25.4 keV is a *minimum* energy per hydrogen
atom. However, if 30% of the Ni was converted to
In reply to Peter Gluck's message of Thu, 24 Feb 2011 22:48:52 +0200:
Hi,
[snip]
Robin,
I don't understand- excuse where is the pressure of hydrogen measured? It is
adsorbed absorbed in the nanometric nickel, the temperature increases there
up to say 400 C- I don't think the reactor has a
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
I'm not understanding how one would need 130 KW to get, what was it, a
10 KW demo?
It produced 130 kW for a while. QUOTE:
Initially, the temperature of the inflowing water was seven degrees
Celsius and for a while the outlet temperature was 40 degrees Celsius. A
On Feb 24, 2011, at 11:50 AM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Thu, 24 Feb 2011 10:56:08
-0900:
Hi,
The reaction
Ni-60 + 4 H (cluster) = Ca-40 + Mg-24 + 13.5 MeV
readily produces Calcium.
Good point! I ignored cluster reactions because I considered
On Feb 24, 2011, at 12:19 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Thu, 24 Feb 2011 11:39:36
-0900:
Hi,
[snip]
..we also don't know how much of the H remained in the Ni after the
reaction was
finished.
Yes, very true. The 25.4 keV is a *minimum* energy per
On Feb 24, 2011, at 11:50 AM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Thu, 24 Feb 2011 10:56:08
-0900:
Hi,
The reaction
Ni-60 + 4 H (cluster) = Ca-40 + Mg-24 + 13.5 MeV
readily produces Calcium.
Good point! I ignored cluster reactions because I considered
Note that when the machine initially started up, it had ~80 W input, a liter
per second flow, and the outlet temperature was 40°C. This continued for a
while. I take that to mean long enough for someone to put his hand on the
outlet pipe to confirm that the tap water was coming out at body
A compilation of recent articles about Rossi's E-Cat:
http://www.aesopinstitute.org/cold-fusion.html
Harry
On Feb 22, 2011, at 8:58 AM, William Beaty wrote:
On Tue, 22 Feb 2011, Horace Heffner wrote:
I have seen responses to Abd ul-Rahman Lomax in my vortex-l email,
but have seen no original email from him since 26 Jan, 2011. I
just discovered that I can see that he is posting if I go to the
I just had to chime in here, after reading this entire thread. I am amazed
at how many of you have been so patient. Then again, I had a few cough
that were that patient with me when I first paid attention to weird
science too. My experience with septicism goes back a few years.
I am not
I wrote: I still think Cs and Rh provide more likely explanations
for the generation of K and Ca and little else, but that is just a
not even strongly held opinion.
SHould have said: I still think Cs and Hf provide more likely
explanations for the generation of K and Ca and little else,
At 08:46 PM 2/24/2011, Horace Heffner wrote:
I don't think the problem is with eskimo.com. I am getting no email
from Abd from two different lists, and I sent a personal message to
Abd asking for a reply. I didn't get a reply, so I assume it got
swallowed up somewhere as well.
Swallowed by
At 11:44 AM 2/24/2011, Charles Hope wrote:
It seems like the field needs a new improved experiment showing
helium/heat. Joshua, can you specify some parameters that would convince you?
I'm not sure that the field needs this, not as a priority. Improved
heat/helium would make a nice grad
At 11:56 AM 2/24/2011, Charles Hope wrote:
Isn't it more likely that the skeptics simply think the field is a
joke, rather than that they're intimidated by the weight of the
positive evidence?
I don't think anyone is intimidated by the weight of the evidence.
Most skeptics simply don't know,
At 03:38 PM 2/24/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote:
I think one of the lessons of Rossi's success so far is that
researchers should aim to produce a larger reaction, if they can. 12
kW is too large in some ways. But I suppose a typical experiment
produces a fraction of a watt. 10 W or more would be
At 05:09 PM 2/24/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote:
The assertion that a determined con artist can do this or that
strikes me as inadequate. A con artist is not a magician capable of
changing the laws of physics or magically influencing instruments.
Uh, Jed, a con artist is indeed a magician, that
In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Wed, 23 Feb 2011 23:24:21 -0900:
Hi,
[snip]
On Feb 23, 2011, at 4:09 PM, Dennis wrote:
I am not too good at looking at Electron microscope pictures
perhaps someone here can
help me understand Rossi's pictures in his patents. us20110005506A1
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 1:47 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Joshua Cude wrote:
Most of those things are tools, and I believe in them like I believe in
hammers. But no matter how much you believe in hammers, it doesn't mean you
can build a house.
Let me spell out what you
Look the photo of Discovery here:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space/8346780/Discovery-space-
shuttle-the-beginning-of-the-end-for-Nasas-shuttle-programme.html
http://tinyurl.com/4ozgo86
Looks like an o-ring is leaking in the lower section of the starboard
booster.
Best regards,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McUl93gGz-
watch this video of the ascent.
I think it is just the way the light from the exhaust or the sun illuminates
the structural details on the booster.
harry
- Original Message
From: Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net
To: Vortex-L
oops the url was incomplete
it should be
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McUl93gGz-8
harry
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McUl93gGz-
watch this video of the ascent.
I think it is just the way the light from the exhaust or the sun illuminates
the structural details on the booster.
harry
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